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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hair removal => Topic started by: Francis Ann Burgett on July 27, 2011, 04:21:44 PM

Title: Tria Laser
Post by: Francis Ann Burgett on July 27, 2011, 04:21:44 PM
I just received devise. It certainly seems professional. Very simliar or identical to expensive laser treatments at a salon for sure. Seems very smartly designed & easy to use. Just  fyi girl friends.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: JulieC. on July 31, 2011, 02:40:46 PM
Please keep us updated on how well this works for you. 
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Francis Ann Burgett on July 31, 2011, 10:37:26 PM
It works like any laser at a salon. If you have dark hair it can disrupt the root of the hair & over time eliminate the hair completely. It has various setting levels for the amount of heat you can stand for the various parts of the body.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: barbie on August 01, 2011, 02:41:20 AM
Oh. It will be funny to play with the Tria.

The battery runs for 30 mins. Shave and apply the Tria. In the beginning, it will be a little bit painful, and you may lower the power level at which you feel comfortable. I have used it for about 10 months. As time goes, it will not take so much time and pain. Legs take longer time, while armfits less. I usually use the Tria while drying my hairs with a fan after shampooing. For beard, I have treated more than 20 times, but still see some fine hairs. Nowadays I use the highest power level.  When I ever try to use it apply to facial areas close to the eyes, I zap while closing my eyes.

And read the user's manual well. I guess I will not be able to completely remove the unwanted hairs, but the Tria can greatly reduce them.

Good luck,

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Francis Ann Burgett on August 03, 2011, 09:54:51 AM
It sure seems to work by just of the sting. I can only use level 3-4 on face, level 5 elsewhere. Be careful it is a strong device it will burn you if you cover one area too much too quicky, it calls for a 2 week schedule in between treatments for skin to heal & for new hairs to grow out to be zapped.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Francis Ann Burgett on August 06, 2011, 07:33:53 PM
It sure seems to work. It only stings when it connects to dark hair then gives a good shot of heat to burn it. I can actually smell it.

just fyi gf's.

Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Francis Ann Burgett on August 06, 2011, 07:35:51 PM
Barbie, You look great young girl. What part of the world do you live in???
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Janet_Girl on August 06, 2011, 07:48:59 PM
I am seriously think about getting one.  For the arms and face.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Francis Ann Burgett on August 06, 2011, 07:56:03 PM
It's a real laser, no games. has five heat settings & covers maybe 2/3 rd of a dime diamenter on each surge. It's burning something for sure on my face, easy to use on face or anywhere, charges up & lasts for 20 minutes at least. $400.

Like all it burns medium & dark hairs not white or gray. They call you after you received it to confirm product & type of hair.

good luck
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Cindy on August 07, 2011, 02:21:01 AM
Do remember you need three week cycles between sessions to get the next cycle of hair growth.
Still not sure that $400 laser will match up to a $150,000 machine that was used in the salon on me. I've had I think 9 sessions and I'm face, chest and tummy hair free.
And remember to shave before laser, you want to zap the follicle, not burn hair which doesn't do anything'


But I hope it works for you, keep on zapping and remember to close your eyes, you don't want eye damage.

Cindy
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: barbie on August 07, 2011, 05:05:54 AM
Quote from: Francis Ann Burgett on August 06, 2011, 07:35:51 PM
Barbie, You look great young girl. What part of the world do you live in???

I currently live in this part:
http://runkeeper.com/user/201099298/activity/45177188 (http://runkeeper.com/user/201099298/activity/45177188)

And, typhoon Muifa just passed next to me. We had about 300 mm (11 inch) rain today. It is still windy at speed of 15 m/sec.

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: barbie on August 07, 2011, 05:15:07 AM
Quote from: Cindy James on August 07, 2011, 02:21:01 AM
Still not sure that $400 laser will match up to a $150,000 machine that was used in the salon on me.

I have never visited a professional salon, because the cost is too expensive. For beard alone, they asked me about $300~$500.

A merit of Tria is its convenience. It's for home use. You do not need to make reservation. Just apply the Tria whenver you have leizure time. Time is an important factor for most people.

I guess the effectivenes would be proportional to the degree of pain of the laser shot. The level 5 of the Tria was at first painful for my legs, and intolerable for my beard area. If professional laser is far more effective than the Tria, I guess the patient would have great difficulty in enduring the pain. And I guess the area coverage is bigger than the Tria.

If anybody tried the both, it would illuminate the difference.

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Francis Ann Burgett on August 07, 2011, 11:47:05 PM
Barbie, a runner, how cool. Good luck. We also know storms here, hurricanes to us. I was very close to one most unpleasant woman called Katrina.

Take care & good luck in your races.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Cindy on August 08, 2011, 03:37:33 AM
Quote from: barbie on August 07, 2011, 05:15:07 AM
I have never visited a professional salon, because the cost is too expensive. For beard alone, they asked me about $300~$500.

A merit of Tria is its convenience. It's for home use. You do not need to make reservation. Just apply the Tria whenver you have leizure time. Time is an important factor for most people.

I guess the effectivenes would be proportional to the degree of pain of the laser shot. The level 5 of the Tria was at first painful for my legs, and intolerable for my beard area. If professional laser is far more effective than the Tria, I guess the patient would have great difficulty in enduring the pain. And I guess the area coverage is bigger than the Tria.

If anybody tried the both, it would illuminate the difference.

Barbie~~

I think that is one of the differences, the salon has experienced people doing the laser, I had all sorts of tests before they started. There is a big difference in pain threshold and effective threshold. It has cost me about $3000 to get my face, chest and tummy hair free,

Cindy
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: malibukay on September 04, 2011, 09:48:00 AM
i really want to get one of these, but am too afraid to take the plunge =/
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: kelly_aus on September 04, 2011, 11:47:56 AM
Quote from: barbie on August 07, 2011, 05:15:07 AM
I have never visited a professional salon, because the cost is too expensive. For beard alone, they asked me about $300~$500.

A merit of Tria is its convenience. It's for home use. You do not need to make reservation. Just apply the Tria whenver you have leizure time. Time is an important factor for most people.

I guess the effectivenes would be proportional to the degree of pain of the laser shot. The level 5 of the Tria was at first painful for my legs, and intolerable for my beard area. If professional laser is far more effective than the Tria, I guess the patient would have great difficulty in enduring the pain. And I guess the area coverage is bigger than the Tria.

If anybody tried the both, it would illuminate the difference.

Barbie~~

As far as time goes, I'd rather spend the money and get the hair removed in the salon.. It may cost more, but will get done much quicker - and that's important to me. And I be making an educated guess that one of the major differences between the Tria and a medical grade laser is the frequency of the light used, as well as pulse duration and energy.. The frequency is important, as it will control how effective the laser is at actually killing the follicle, not simply causing enough damage to make it eject it's hair.

Quote from: Cindy James on August 08, 2011, 03:37:33 AM
I think that is one of the differences, the salon has experienced people doing the laser, I had all sorts of tests before they started. There is a big difference in pain threshold and effective threshold. It has cost me about $3000 to get my face, chest and tummy hair free,

Cindy

Sounds like a bargain to me, Cindy.. I'll be starting laser myself soonish - need to have a quick consult with you first.. :)
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: malibukay on September 06, 2011, 08:28:21 PM
ok i so i purchased the tria to try and if im not happy ill return it back to QVC, anyway my first salon treatment is friday! =) i only pay 100$ per session for my whole face and they use a YAG laser hehe
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: AprilAero on September 07, 2011, 07:54:10 PM
I have one , I have been using it every so often since early June, I am still not sure if it is working I guess I just need to keep using it. Although the instructions say to not use it on your face, but I sometimes do it anyway, I just use the 3 or 4 setting on my face. I hope to be able to start Professional LHR in November when I get the money, I think combining Tria and Pro LHR would help make things quicker.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Amaranth on September 19, 2011, 04:52:03 AM
I've been thinking about getting one of these....is there anyone that's tried both?  Is it really effective?  I definitely can't afford anywhere near $3000 for facial hair removal...
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Cindy on September 19, 2011, 05:12:15 AM
In my opinion they are useless or next to it. Talk to a professional salon that deals with poly fibrotic woman (POCS) they are as close to MtF in body hair problems than we can get. OK it may be expensive but we have to use something that works. Paying for what doesn't work is crap.

I had professionals work on me. They were lovely, compassionate and honest. I was the first TG they had met. Yes it cost some money but the result is awesome. I no longer shave. Oh that is a full stop at the end of the sentence.  :laugh:. It was painful but I never had redness, they were totally compassionate. I go back every 3-4 months for a clean up. Which is far longer than I go for my eyebrows.

Saving money only works if it works.

Cindy
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: missF on September 19, 2011, 05:19:16 AM
Can Tria be used on face??? I thought was only for legs and armpits...

Apparently this is the only device FDA approved (not sure if it's CE approved for EU) and that is also effective based on customer reviews...  One thing
Quote from: Cindy James on August 07, 2011, 02:21:01 AM
Do remember you need three week cycles between sessions to get the next cycle of hair growth.


Cindy

Isn't 3 weeks quite soon? The 2 places I did laser treatment (a very expensive clinic and the public hospital where I got 5 sessions)  I was told that 6 weeks is the  best time interval - could be done with 4 weeks but 6 would be more effective since this is the average time if the cycle...

Changing to another product in the same field, does anyone have experience with No!no!?
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Cindy on September 20, 2011, 03:00:26 AM
Sorry,
You are totally correct I was counselled to return about every 4-6 weeks. The first cycles were definitely 6 weeks, as the hair went I could go more often. Now a days I just go as needed. it has been about 8-10 weeks and looking good.

A few people have mentioned No No. I did mention the 'home' lasers to my technician, who of course has a vested interested. But she did say what do you think is better, a $150,000 laser used by a trained nurse or a $500 overpriced hand held job used by a novice.

Seemed logical to me.

Cindy
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: cadeliara@yahoo.com on November 02, 2011, 02:07:38 AM
Cindy no offense but you understand my hesitantcy towards accepting credibility from (as you pointed out) someone with a vested interest in telling you that spending thousands of dollars with them will yield you better results.

Don't get me wrong, I have no dog in this fight. At best I am being devils advocate, but as someone facing the cost of a sizable down payment on a house to get all of my physical affairs in order for tranistioning so (and as I am sure the demographic of millionaire transgendered is quite negligable I am not alone here) every penny counts.

I am in the same boat as some others here. I saw the ads and by my VERY skeptical nature I consider everything I see in an infomercial on the same caliber of technical ingenuity and must-havedness as a slap-chop or shamwow.
If it is too good to be true....

...but what if it isn't?
At least to an extent.

By my calculation, this puppy (if paid for in full) is the price of about 3-4 sessions of facial LHR at any decent clinic. If I can get at least that much out of it and wrap up the loose ones with electrolysis (which remains the ONLY approved method for removal.) then I think I got my moneys worth. My skin is fair at best and my hairs are raven black, so I should be a good candidate.
Add to that the fact that I have sent 3 very well composed and open minded emails to 3 different reputable laser centers and the best I got was 3 days after one of them replied that a nurse will be in touch. That was weeks ago.
I don't need the hassle of begging them to accept my business.

Oh and folks, don't let companies fool you when they wave the "FDA approved" flag.
All a product really needs to do to be FDA approved in this category is to not harm you. The FDA does zero evaluation as to a products effectiveness. They neither have the resources for that kind of testing, nor the clout.

So I am still up in the air about getting it or not, but if I do, I will definately be posting up my evaluation.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Cindy on November 02, 2011, 02:22:28 AM
Absolutely no offence taken at all.

In any of these areas I think it is very important to be careful, it is our only skin after all. And yes it is a lot of money so we need to be careful of that too. I do know that there  were reports in the Australian press about people being severely burned and disfigured by untrained laser techs.

I hope the Tria works for you, and with fair skin and dark hair you are in a good category. But do be careful of making sure you don't overdo it. My techs have been very informative in teaching me skin care and applying sunscreen and moisturiser to protect my skin, particularly after laser.

If you go for a hand held laser do let us know how it went, as you said lots of girls here are very interested in the outcome.

I went into the clinic in person and made an appointment, it was the second I went to, I didn't feel comfortable in the first place, something felt odd and I sort of take notice of those intuition type of feelings. The place I go to, as I said, have been great, very friendly, totally confidential and I feel that I'm being treated by skilled people who care for me.

Good luck and let me know how you go

Hugs

Cindy
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: michelle666 on November 02, 2011, 11:57:23 PM
I'm very interested in the Tria for chest hair. When you use a laser, what happens when you pull the trigger on the device? Does the hair burn, or just kinda falls out?
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: cadeliara@yahoo.com on November 03, 2011, 12:50:01 AM
Please excuse the analogy as I am sure there are better ones out there but I think this is one of the easiest ways to explain it.

Laser is light, (Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation)

With that also comes heat, but concentrated heat.

What the laser does in terms of hair removal is it targets the area with focused light at a certain frequency and that light (and subsequent heat) will be absorbed by darker things that stand out in high contrast, ie: your dark hair in your light skin.) It is just like putting a black car next to a white one, which will heat up quicker and hotter? Obviously the black one as black absorbs the heat energy from light more than white.
This is also the reason that folks with lighter hairs and/or darker skin do not get nearly as good results from laser.

So this heat then travels down the hair to the hair folicle. That is where it does thermo-mechanical damage (fancy term for "cooks it") to the folicle itself so in theory, not only will the hair fall out and die, but it will damage the folicle to the point where it can not produce a replacement hair.

It burns the hair from the inside out, but more importantly, burns the part that produces it. The hair does eventually get pushed out by your body rejecting this now dead tissue on it's own.

The reason electrolysis is more reliable (albeit much more time consuming) in this task is because there each and every hair is targetted independently and treated one at a time.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: lilacwoman on November 03, 2011, 02:23:49 AM
Trias are overpriced here in UK at about $600.

If they really do work they would be a good investment but its hard to imagine they really have a proper laser inside them and run on batteries when the pro models run off mains and hum with power.

be careful not to do any patch of skin more than once or a patch of brown pigment will appear and remain forever.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: lilacwoman on November 03, 2011, 02:27:11 AM
http://www.so-smooth.co.uk (http://www.so-smooth.co.uk) has a whole assortment of hair removal stuff
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: lilacwoman on November 03, 2011, 02:31:20 AM
my dark hairs are loose enough to be slid out after 24/48 hours but they will emerge and can be wiped away after about 4/5/6 days.

hairs all start growing at different times so its hard to know what the best interval between laserings is.  present salon says three weeks, other said 4/5 and another said minimum 6 weeks. 
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: barbie on November 03, 2011, 08:15:49 PM
Quote from: lilacwoman on November 03, 2011, 02:31:20 AM
my dark hairs are loose enough to be slid out after 24/48 hours but they will emerge and can be wiped away after about 4/5/6 days.

hairs all start growing at different times so its hard to know what the best interval between laserings is.  present salon says three weeks, other said 4/5 and another said minimum 6 weeks.

Now I have used the Tria for 1 year. I have irregularly used it. Nowadays, I can spend 5-10 min 1-2 times per week for my beard and legs after shower in the morning. If I do not apply the Tria to my beard area, I see some very fine hairs in a week, which can make the area above my upper lip look a little bit dark.

Regarding legs, it is a vast area, taking longer time. I see very long and fine hairs in my legs. Sometimes I just shave them. As my legs were tanned during the summer, I will strike those leg hars again in the winter.

For ampits, I have applied 4-5 times, but still see long fine hairs growing again. Applying the Tria once per month would be enough for the armpits.

In any case, overal thickness and number of hairs have been greatly reduced. Leg hairs are unnoticeable, even though I can apply the Tria once per month.

Barbie~~

In the case of Tria, you need to shave completely those hairs you are going to target.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: michelle666 on November 04, 2011, 06:21:24 AM
Whats the deal with the battery on the Tria? I've been reading reviews on Amazon that say its not replaceable and dies pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Jennifer_Lynn on November 04, 2011, 10:05:14 PM
I just bought a TRIA so I did my first treatment yesterday. It is said the batteries will last for about 500 recharge cycles. And no you can't change the batteries. If you could you could get another 500 charges. The TRIA is no toy girls. It is a class 1 laser. My best friend from high school used on on her bikini area. After 6 months she said 95% of the growth was totally gone. The other 5% was peach fuzz. Most hairs have a 6 week growth/no growth cycle. Its different for different parts of the body but basically its close. Since most of us can't afford a 200,000 dollar laser for our own use much less the thousand they charge for laser session we do what we can do. I have been reading and talking to people and the best one I found so far is the TRIA. Its not an IPL its a laser. So like I said I have done just one treatment so as I progress I will post more. Or if anyone wants to talk to me about it just email me. Like anything it talk a commitment to do it right. Half assed work will give you half assed results.

Isabella
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: walter11 on November 10, 2011, 03:39:48 AM
hi, you know i was very excited to try out Tria laser hair removal and be able to laser at home. The system comes in a white carrying case, with a charger and a skin sensor. Because Tria is a high-tech device, there's an important instructions packet and FAQ included. These are both definite reads to know exactly how to use the system safely and correctly, so I made sure to read them both carefully.After charging the system, you have to activate it. Either by calling 1-877-321-TRIA or by doing so on-line (only once) to ensure you can safely use it. Otherwise Tria will not turn on.

First, I had to make sure my skin was light enough. You place the skin sensor on your skin and then turn it on- if it turns green you're within the right skin tone. If it turns red, your skin is too dark and you can't use it. For good reason, dark skin tones can't use Tria with possibly of getting burned, scarred or blistered. I was sure my skin was well within the skin tone range, and the light did turn green.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: michelle666 on November 10, 2011, 05:39:25 AM
Quote from: Isabella_Anne on November 04, 2011, 10:05:14 PM
I just bought a TRIA so I did my first treatment yesterday. It is said the batteries will last for about 500 recharge cycles. And no you can't change the batteries. If you could you could get another 500 charges. The TRIA is no toy girls. It is a class 1 laser. My best friend from high school used on on her bikini area. After 6 months she said 95% of the growth was totally gone. The other 5% was peach fuzz. Most hairs have a 6 week growth/no growth cycle. Its different for different parts of the body but basically its close. Since most of us can't afford a 200,000 dollar laser for our own use much less the thousand they charge for laser session we do what we can do. I have been reading and talking to people and the best one I found so far is the TRIA. Its not an IPL its a laser. So like I said I have done just one treatment so as I progress I will post more. Or if anyone wants to talk to me about it just email me. Like anything it talk a commitment to do it right. Half assed work will give you half assed results.

Isabella

Keep us updated on your progress with it.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Dana_H on November 10, 2011, 09:55:20 PM
The Tria did not work at all for me.  I have very dark brown hair and light skin, so near ideal contrast. After six months of committed regular use, there was no reduction in hair that I could measure, and it hurt like h*** in some areas; certainly more than the "rubber band snap" I was expecting.

Be aware that the instructions say not to use it on your face.

Maybe you'll have better luck than I did, but I consider it to be a waste of money.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Cindy on November 11, 2011, 12:59:07 AM
If you cannot use it on your face that is a big limitation I would have thought!
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Jeneva on November 11, 2011, 02:18:55 AM
Check out hairtell forums and you'll see plenty of people telling you the same thing we are.  It doesn't work.  I never even got shedding of the facial hair.  I also thought it hurt MORE than real LHR.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: barbie on November 13, 2011, 03:25:49 PM
Based on the posts here, it seems to me that the efficacy of the Tria depends on the person.

But, I say again, at least for me, it has worked. I have not shaved my beard for 1 year except when I shave a few very fine hairs just before applying the Tria. I still see some fine and long hairs in my legs, but they are not so much noticeable and the thickness and the overall number has progressively decreased. As I have been busy, I infrequently used the Tria, but it has worked nice for me.

Yes. It requires a lot of time and effort. About 30 min for every week, while applyig it randomly to armpits, legs and the beard area.


Barbie~~
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: smooth on November 26, 2011, 09:35:35 AM
This piece of kit has been developed for home use and as such and to avoid costly lawsuits it is under powered and pretty ineffective against all but small shallow hairs, if any! In the longer term anyone using it might well notice additional growth as a result of increased circulation in the areas where it has been used. Bear in mind that laser is now being used in hair replacement therapies as well as for reduction. From history it can be seen that some of the great "cure all's" turn out to nothing more than clever scams....
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Cadence Jean on November 27, 2011, 07:08:56 PM
Any update on this Francis?
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: AprilAero on December 13, 2011, 12:42:50 AM
as of a few weeks ago I started using this thing again, I think I am noticing a little bit of a reduction, I am noticing that some of the hair on my face is now coming back in a lot slower and a little less coarse. I do plan to get a few professional laser hair removal sessions on my face, in the future , as this will probably speed up my progress, I had planned to get professional LHR on my legs , underarms and face, but I have not been able to do so due to a lack of necessary funds to make that happen. just so you know I am 15 months into HRT a- of November 28th 2011. I would imagine that this would also make the hair follicle smaller, in certain areas.

My understanding of the way this works is it makes the roots of the hair less deep little by little with each treatment, at first I was skeptical when I got it, and I stopped using it for about 4 months, but I realized that it probably does work, but it will take a lot more time to see results.  Another thing on my face it seems that shaving takes a little bit less time and energy. Only time will tell if this product actually does what it says it does, you just need to try it for yourself and if it does not work for you send it back and get your money back.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: barbie on April 04, 2012, 03:36:58 PM
Now I have used the Tria infrequently during the past 1.5 yrs, and I can say that it worked so well.

I only see a few fine hairs in my legs. They are nearly unnoticeable, but I sometimes strike them with the Tria. For armpits and beard areas, it takes far less time than legs, and I apply the Tria once per one or two months.

I think I already saved a lot of money, because the doctor's office requested me about $500 just for the beard area. With that money, I already removed nearly all hairs in my legs, armpits and beard  (though the tria does not recommend to apply it in facial area).

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Seyranna on April 13, 2012, 07:09:38 AM
I also have the Tria but I would never dare do my face with it O.o ...

I got my face and crotch area professionally done but I use Tria everywhere else.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: barbie on May 21, 2012, 04:32:46 PM
Summer is comming, and I am ready for exposing my legs. But I also fear being surburned.
Tria worked great.

My leg photos:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fmodels%2Fleg.jpg&hash=cd61fa8c980af8452a0fec9bea87111ac96ca3de)

And, with nude stockings:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fmodels%2F20120427leg.jpg&hash=40fff0ca0258519c58659b5e6ddeef99e20c1144)

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: megan7777 on April 01, 2015, 11:42:28 PM
interestingly enough a lot of folks seem to be using the tria on the face and having good results.

http://www.triabeauty.com/home-laser-hair-removal-reviews

750 reviews...many talk about face, lip and neck.

if it really works, may be worth the 450 $$$ and I can use it when ever I want.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: megan7777 on April 03, 2015, 07:56:26 PM
so I contacted tria and asked

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I'm male, can I use the tria 4x device to remove my facial hair or do you have another laser made for men's faces?
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this was the reply

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Thank you for contacting Customer Care. We recommend only treating from the neck down. The hair on a man's beard is too dense.

Please let us know if we can assist you further.

Sincerely,

Amber

Tria Customer Care Team

customercare@triabeauty.com
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What I'm wondering though, is that IF I take HRT for a year will my face still be considered a mans face.. I mean will the hair become feminine making the laser work against the new type of hair... Hmmmmm

I suppose for now its off to the laser hair removal shop.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: kelly_aus on April 03, 2015, 11:50:09 PM
Quote from: megan7777 on April 03, 2015, 07:56:26 PM
What I'm wondering though, is that IF I take HRT for a year will my face still be considered a mans face.. I mean will the hair become feminine making the laser work against the new type of hair... Hmmmmm

Short answer: No.

Longer answer: After 4 years on hormones, my facial hair is not any finer than it used to be.. About all I can say is that regrowth is much slower.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: QuestioningEverything on April 04, 2015, 01:07:14 PM
Do you think I should buy this or will HRT alone be enough to remove most of my body hair?  My face is already about 90-95% hair free from a professional laser so I'm really looking to work on the rest of my hair. As far as a genetic males are concerned am pretty naturally hair free for the most part, still more then women but far less then most men. I trying to figure out if its worth spending the $450 or do you think HRT alone will reduce most of it? Im 4 months into HRT and body hair grows slower but still looks the same. I just want it gone now but if i can save $450 I can wait a few more months.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: kelly_aus on April 04, 2015, 03:53:35 PM
Quote from: QuestioningEverything on April 04, 2015, 01:07:14 PM
Do you think I should buy this or will HRT alone be enough to remove most of my body hair?  My face is already about 90-95% hair free from a professional laser so I'm really looking to work on the rest of my hair. As far as a genetic males are concerned am pretty naturally hair free for the most part, still more then women but far less then most men. I trying to figure out if its worth spending the $450 or do you think HRT alone will reduce most of it? Im 4 months into HRT and body hair grows slower but still looks the same. I just want it gone now but if i can save $450 I can wait a few more months.

6-8 months and a few wax jobs did the trick for me. I think it was the combo that did it, each time the new hair that came back was finer and lighter.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: KelliL on April 18, 2015, 01:47:09 PM
I have personal experience with the Tria 4X.  I have used it for 5 months and I will share my results and thoughts on this product:

Everybody wants their hair removed yesterday.  My advice is to take whatever time frame you have in your head of how long it's going to take and multiply that times 4.  It's a long and slow process no matter how you do it.

I bought the Tria laser 4X in November 2014.  First of all Tria is NOT a laser.  It's an IPL Intense Pulsed light.  It shares the same frequency in the near infrared range of 910nm as 910nm lasers, but the distinction between IPL and laser is important.  NOT because it's not effective.  IPL is every bit as effective as Laser.  How could it not be?  Same wavelength, same power: produces same results.  It's a safety issue.  Physics speak:  Laser is in phase, IPL is not.   Layman speak:  You know when you point a laser pointer in the sky and you see a beam?  That's because the light beam is in sync with each other.  It's in phase or concentrated in one direction.  It allows energy packets in lasers to be delivered over long distances without losing power.  IPL scatters very quickly when leaving the optical end of the instrument.  So, IPL is safer in some respects.  A direct shot to the eye from 12 inches will not deliver the same power as a laser.  OK, physics lesson is over.  Now to the practical results. 

Does the Tria 4X remove hair?  Absolutely it does.  pressing the Tria directly to your skin delivers a good amount of energy on setting 5.  You will feel it like a snap of a rubber band.  If you don't feel it, you are probably not doing anything to remove hair in that area.  You either have the setting too low or have blonde or light hair.  I noticed about a 25% reduction of arm hair after the first treatment.  This was encouraging, but don't get too excited.  3 weeks later it hardly seemed like any impact at all!  Why?  because hair grows in cycles.  3 to 6 week cycles.  So that first treatment removed 25% of 1 of 3 to 6 cycles of hairs.  reducing the real percentage to somewhere between 25% of 16% to 33% of my hairs.  Does that make sense?  Each time you do it, you are killing cells that produce hairs, but since only 1/6 to 1/3 of your hairs are actually in a growth cycle, the others will come back.  25% of those actually in the growth cycle never come back.  It does work, but it can be frustrating and you may think you are getting no where.  But you are.  I do once a week for the last 5 months and I have about a 60% total real reduction in my arm hair.  I plan on continuing to blast it.

For the face:  Tria says you are not to use it on your face, but everyone knows that it is OK in Japan, Europe and Canada.  My opinion?  It's a legal thing that they don't allow it in the US.   And there is considerable more risk putting this instrument on your face which is close to your eyes.  You may think it's just a home product, but it carries a punch.  BE CAREFUL if you do use it on your face.  Never around your eyes.  Personally, I use it mainly just below my chin and all my neck.  I have been doing electrolysis to augment this for my face in other areas.  My opinion of why they don't recommend it:  IT HURTS LIKE HELL!  hairs are very concentrated on the beard.  I noticed an extreme difference between beard areas and areas of the body.  I have hit my upper lip with about 4 treatments and it helps to weaken the hairs for electrolysis.  That said, I have never been burned by the laser using it on my face even on the highest setting, but I can tell you even with a close shave it WILL HURT.  I just can't duplicate the regimen of weekly blasts that I do on the rest of my body.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: barbie on April 18, 2015, 08:49:46 PM
Quote from: KelliL on April 18, 2015, 01:47:09 PM
Does the Tria 4X remove hair?  Absolutely it does.

I no longer shave, nor use Tria as the battery was already dead. It took about 2 years to remove most of hairs in my legs, chin and armpits, as I infrequently used Tria (probably once per month?).

barbie~~
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: meganmichelle on May 09, 2015, 07:30:38 PM
"For the face:  Tria says you are not to use it on your face, but everyone knows that it is OK in Japan, Europe and Canada.  My opinion?  It's a legal thing that they don't allow it in the US.   And there is considerable more risk putting this instrument on your face which is close to your eyes.  You may think it's just a home product, but it carries a punch.  BE CAREFUL if you do use it on your face.  Never around your eyes.  Personally, I use it mainly just below my chin and all my neck.  I have been doing electrolysis to augment this for my face in other areas.  My opinion of why they don't recommend it:  IT HURTS LIKE HELL!  hairs are very concentrated on the beard.  I noticed an extreme difference between beard areas and areas of the body.  I have hit my upper lip with about 4 treatments and it helps to weaken the hairs for electrolysis.  That said, I have never been burned by the laser using it on my face even on the highest setting, but I can tell you even with a close shave it WILL HURT.  I just can't duplicate the regimen of weekly blasts that I do on the rest of my body."

Thanks for the information! I think I'm going to buy one of these, once wife and I can agree that I can remove my hair. :(
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Felicity R on May 10, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
This is really interesting. Do any of you who have used the Tria know what the darkest skin tone is that it can be used on effectively. Based on your picture, I think I'm of a similar skin tone to you Barbie.

I think I still plan to go to a professional salon to have my face done, but if this really works it could be a cheaper alternative for areas like my arms and legs.

Also, does anyone know if a machine like the Tria (or even a professional LHR machine) can have an adverse effect on tattoos? I know tattoo removal is done through a similar process using a laser, but I wasn't sure if the two processes have different enough laser wavelengths that my tattoos would remain unharmed?
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: barbie on May 10, 2015, 08:16:50 PM
Quote from: Felicity R on May 10, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
Also, does anyone know if a machine like the Tria (or even a professional LHR machine) can have an adverse effect on tattoos? I know tattoo removal is done through a similar process using a laser, but I wasn't sure if the two processes have different enough laser wavelengths that my tattoos would remain unharmed?

I am sure that Tria will burn tattoos, if the color is dark. My understanding is that laser machines target and strike anything dark colored.

barbie~~
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Felicity R on May 11, 2015, 12:36:29 PM
I suppose I will be avoiding laser hair removal on my inner forearms then. Luckily most of the hair growth there is pretty wispy and thin anyway. I can easily just shave the parts of my forearms that are tattooed.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: mfox on May 12, 2015, 03:08:33 PM
Quote from: Felicity R on May 10, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
This is really interesting. Do any of you who have used the Tria know what the darkest skin tone is that it can be used on effectively. Based on your picture, I think I'm of a similar skin tone to you Barbie.

I think I still plan to go to a professional salon to have my face done, but if this really works it could be a cheaper alternative for areas like my arms and legs.

Also, does anyone know if a machine like the Tria (or even a professional LHR machine) can have an adverse effect on tattoos? I know tattoo removal is done through a similar process using a laser, but I wasn't sure if the two processes have different enough laser wavelengths that my tattoos would remain unharmed?

Unfortunately the Tria is a diode laser, which means it has a really broad spectrum and can more easily burn you if mis-used, compared to like an Alexandrite laser.  Only a professional Nd:YAG or maybe an Alexandrite laser can treat olive/tan and darker skin tones/tattoos.

When I had a Tria, it came with a little skin-tone-sensing device.  You press it against your skin where you're about to treat, and it judges for you if it's safe (if the skin is too dark, it won't unlock the Tria for use).

Also, I think similar lasers are used to actually remove tattoos.  The birth marks I have/had in places I've had laser were definitely lightened and changed by laser hair removal, so be careful.  Electrolysis would be safer on tattoos.

Having had all 3 types of laser hair removal, and 2 different Tria's over the years, I definitely still recommend going to a professional.  The Tria will take forever and it's just too weak and slow (mainly because it's battery powered). It's only good for treating strays missed by professional laser in my opinion (but electrolysis is even probably a better option for that).
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Willowicious on May 05, 2016, 05:09:35 AM
Heya ladies! I was just wondering if anybody has had any further experience or results from using Tria? I was thinking of getting one to use on my torso as I can't afford IPL or laser for that :/
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Laura_7 on May 05, 2016, 05:21:34 AM

There are basically at least two systems which are said to have permanent results.

One is the tria and the other is the silk flash n go. (from silk only this one according to descriptions from others)

The silk flash n go are mains powered and have changeable cartridges, some with a high number of flashes.
If its only for a small area fewer flashes should do.
They are available used.
All at your own risk ... do your due diligence, read up reviews and look at what you buy and from whom.
There are people who aquired nice devices for less than 100 usd.


*hugs*
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: michelle666 on May 06, 2016, 02:49:58 PM
Quote from: Felicity R on May 10, 2015, 04:19:03 PM

Also, does anyone know if a machine like the Tria (or even a professional LHR machine) can have an adverse effect on tattoos? I know tattoo removal is done through a similar process using a laser, but I wasn't sure if the two processes have different enough laser wavelengths that my tattoos would remain unharmed?

The tria will most definitely affect tattoos. I had a couple of small ones on my legs that I hated. I tested it on a small spot(hurt like hell) and after it healed, it was gone in that spot. It took a couple of sessions with it but now those tattoos are not there at all.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: michelle666 on May 06, 2016, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: Laura_7 on May 05, 2016, 05:21:34 AM
There are basically at least two systems which are said to have permanent results.

One is the tria and the other is the silk flash n go. (from silk only this one according to descriptions from others)

The silk flash n go are mains powered and have changeable cartridges, some with a high number of flashes.
If its only for a small area fewer flashes should do.
They are available used.
All at your own risk ... do your due diligence, read up reviews and look at what you buy and from whom.
There are people who aquired nice devices for less than 100 usd.


*hugs*

The Silk is not a laser, it's an IPL device and is not permanent.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Laura_7 on May 06, 2016, 02:57:12 PM
Quote from: michelle666 on May 06, 2016, 02:50:51 PM
The Silk is not a laser, it's an IPL device and is not permanent.

There are quite a few people who tried and said it has some permanent results. You can look up reviews.
Its the silk flash n go.
Of course its dependent on skin tone and hair colours, with dark hair and fair skin supposed to work best.

hugs
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: michelle666 on May 06, 2016, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: Laura_7 on May 06, 2016, 02:57:12 PM
There are quite a few people who tried and said it has some permanent results. You can look up reviews.
Its the silk flash n go.
Of course its dependent on skin tone and hair colours, with dark hair and fair skin supposed to work best.

hugs

I personally know people who have used it and had the hair come back after about a year of not using it. For me, it's been over three years since I used the tria with no regrowth.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Laura_7 on May 06, 2016, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: michelle666 on May 06, 2016, 03:09:46 PM
I personally know people who have used it and had the hair come back after about a year of not using it.

Was it specifically the flash n go ? There are a few other devices from them which look similar.
If looking at the ratings they are different, also for what they are approved.


hugs
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: michelle666 on May 06, 2016, 03:15:24 PM
Quote from: Laura_7 on May 06, 2016, 03:12:07 PM
Was it specifically the flash n go ? There are a few other devices from them which look similar.
If looking at the ratings they are different, also for what they are approved.


hugs

It was the flash and go by silk'n. I also know people who got ipl done by a pro and had terrible results.
Title: Re: Tria Laser
Post by: Laura_7 on May 06, 2016, 03:38:21 PM
Quote from: michelle666 on May 06, 2016, 03:15:24 PM
It was the flash and go by silk'n. I also know people who got ipl done by a pro and had terrible results.

This is such a weird field.

Its really people having different results.

Thank you for the info.


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