I felt weird :embarrassed:
All you guys/gals talk about SRS... and seems to be very important...
I just want it for my sex life.
Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on August 03, 2011, 05:58:54 AM
I just want it for my sex life.
You will not feel the same as a real vagina, besides, there are risks of not being able to have !!orgasms!!
Also It looks so fake to me (I have seen a bunch of Post-op photos and porn videos, Bio and TransWoman)
Since i'm twelve years
Speaking for myself, I have emotional dysphoria when sexually fantasizing, like I want to be penetrated or licked or scissored or whatever but that thing is in the way and it's really frustrating.
Mmm, it looks real enough to me, I saw one of those SRS surgery and result videos on Youtube.
No you aren't the only one but telling us we won't have a real vagina or it will be fake is not the way to get others to respond favorably to your posts.
Randi
Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on August 03, 2011, 06:39:28 AM
Speaking for myself, I have emotional dysphoria when sexually fantasizing, like I want to be penetrated or licked or scissored or whatever but that thing is in the way and it's really frustrating.
Mmm, it looks real enough to me, I saw one of those SRS surgery and result videos on Youtube.
-Yes i have too, i want to be penetrated and i imagine it, but i know if i lost the ability to have orgasm,
i could try kill myself
- Ok, but you have to have lucky
Danielle Foxxx have a awesome vagina
Quote from: Randi on August 03, 2011, 06:51:50 AM
No you aren't the only one but telling us we won't have a real vagina or it will be fake is not the way to get others to respond favorably to your posts.
Randi
This is serious, I'm not kidding.
Quote from: Randi on August 03, 2011, 06:51:50 AM
but telling us we won't have a real vagina or it will be fake is not the way to get others to respond favorably to your posts.
You mean I have to lie and say what you want to hear? , This is
VERY SAD You think this does not irritate me? !!!
Sorry to say, you seem too genital bound.
Ever figured out that most of sex is in the brain?
Some people orgasm by having their nipple tickled, breast fondled, just squeezing their thighs --- I speak about women.
You seem to be stuck in a guy's sex mindset. Like nothing doing without that sausage (penis).
That is of course also a valid place in life, BUT not quite trans IME.
If you go on HRT you'll wind up with a 'dangle' for a penis, write penetration in the chimney.
If that's not for you, then you know. - And can move on, eh.
Axelle
Whatever floats your boat I reckon.
If you are happy in your situation that's great, but we are all individuals with different needs, and those change with time too. Who knows, you might change your mind one day and decide to take that step to SRS that you would not consider today.
Karen.
Quote from: Axélle on August 03, 2011, 07:24:18 AM
Sorry to say, you seem too genital bound.
Ever figured out that most of sex is in the brain?
Some people orgasm by having their nipple tickled, breast fondled, just squeezing their thighs --- I speak about women.
You seem to be stuck in a guy's sex mindset. Like nothing doing without that sausage (penis).
That is of course also a valid place in life, BUT not quite trans IME.
If you go on HRT you'll wind up with a 'dangle' for a penis, write penetration in the chimney.
If that's not for you, then you know. - And can move on, eh.
Axelle
I speak about women, guy's sex mindset? (LOL) ???
Sorry to say, you speak like tipical macho man
Quote from: Axélle on August 03, 2011, 07:24:18 AM
Like nothing doing without that sausage (penis).
Quote from: Axélle on August 03, 2011, 07:24:18 AM
Sorry to say, you seem too genital bound.
What?, is disgustin to me penetrate someone, maybe for money , but money is money i'm not rich
my mum someday gonna die, she is my only support
if my mother had died when she had cancer, I might have committed suicide. my father has no job
and return to my country would be suicide too, because they are very transphobic
this is the reason that i want to be an scort , but i can see i have the rejection of other
intolerant transsexuals Edited:
My situacion now is: (I'm bisexual)
-Men: You are a guy, and you never gonna be a woman
-Women: You are a perv, you want touch your female bodie and boobs
-Transsexuals: Fuk*ng Whore, piece of ->-bleeped-<- you love your penis,
we are ashamed of you
What country were you from? For some reason I thought you were Mexican and your family went to Spain, lol
Honey, so why be so non-op only oriented, if not for worried your dangle giving you orgasms only?
Arguing for ORGASM stuff, as if that was the most important thing being a female? Just makes me think of guy sex-mindset, may I be forgiven?
Maybe is a language barrier?
I just scored "girly girl" on female/male brain test and now been promoted to "macho man" :-) Love it :-)
Thank you hon,
Axelle
PS: Girly Girl not always PC, soooory.
Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on August 03, 2011, 08:23:53 AM
What country were you from? For some reason I thought you were Mexican and your family went to Spain, lol
-I edited my last post-
Mexican?
LMFAO I'm from, Loja(loja) - Ecuador
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loja,_Ecuador (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loja,_Ecuador)
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He is the president now, XD, he said things like
- Horrible fat (to a girl XD)
- Mayor silly
- You preppy
- Vulture (to someone XD)
- Hey you cavemen
- Sons of oligarchy
- by idiots like you is wrong Ecuadorian community XD
But i remember years ago, someone says
as I can not hit you, I'll piss in your face XD
Quote from: Axélle on August 03, 2011, 08:29:26 AM
Arguing for ORGASM stuff, as if that was the most important thing being a female?
PS: Girly Girl not always PC, soooory.
Girls love orgams, some Bio-girls are stressed by not being able
That's crass, wow! And that president of yours... extra crass.
You must have a lot of unkind transsexuals about you, the way you feel.
But then they say: "I takes two to tango..." :-)
or: "Wie man den Wald hinein ruft, so hallt es heraus" ... kind of the same idea in German.
Axelle
Quote from: Narela on August 03, 2011, 06:29:52 AM
You will not feel the same as a real vagina, besides, there are risks of not being able to have !!orgasms!!
my partners have never complained...as to risks of not being able to have an orgasm, that was a risk that was outweighed by the prospect of continuing to live in an incongruent manner. For me, continuing to live with the wrong plumbing was not a choice I wanted to contend with. Oh, and I have no problems getting to orgasm...guess maybe those surgeons all those years ago knew a little something about what they were doing...
Quote from: Ann Onymous on August 03, 2011, 09:09:17 AM
my partners have never complained...as to risks of not being able to have an orgasm, that was a risk that was outweighed by the prospect of continuing to live in an incongruent manner. For me, continuing to live with the wrong plumbing was not a choice I wanted to contend with. Oh, and I have no problems getting to orgasm...guess maybe those surgeons all those years ago knew a little something about what they were doing...
Agreed.
Women's clothing isn't designed with pre/non-ops in mind. It makes being naked around other people, let alone yourself, much less of an issue. The list goes on and on and somewhere near the bottom of it is orgasm. There are just too many other reasons for SRS to worry about whether I'll orgasm or not.
Quote from: Narela on August 03, 2011, 07:05:53 AM
Yes i have too, i want to be penetrated and i imagine it, but i know if i lost the ability to have orgasm,
i could try kill myself
Why is sex so important to you? o.O There was a time in your life when you couldn't orgasm.
Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on August 04, 2011, 10:16:37 AM
Why is sex so important to you? o.O There was a time in your life when you couldn't orgasm.
When? I started masturbate at age 6 or less i don't remember :C
and it relax me ... when i'm stressed , I might go crazy if i can't do it, and this is serious no kidding
I have try but, i start after 6 days in think cut my wrist because i'm stressed
Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on August 03, 2011, 05:58:54 AM
I just want it for my sex life.
Why is sex so important to you? o.O There was a time in your life when you couldn't €_€
Yeah but if I lost my ability to orgasm I wouldn't kill myself.
Narela,
sounds to me you suffering some kind of libido-overload.
I had a temporary gf and she needed to "get off" 6 - 7 times a day.
It turned out she had other unresolved issues. Heavy...
So "getting off" was like taking anti-depressants. Maybe more natural then popping pills, but hey this sounds like a big bind/dependency to me.
Like your hole life begins to revolve about it.
There is a saying: "All that is 'too', is not a good thing" even just "too good" :-)
I think I do understand now where you are coming from. It would seem that if you have less of "it" your world will fold or collapse.
We used to "deliver" people of this situation (include myself, it's how I know). The key word is LUST.
Not sure if you follow me, yet it's not appropriate here to go into the lower details if you please.
Axelle
Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on August 04, 2011, 11:09:04 AM
Yeah but if I lost my ability to orgasm I wouldn't kill myself.
sorry for my comment... , but i think you don't understand... you don't feel anything, if they do something wrong (surgeons),
I don't mean orgasm Quote from: Axélle on August 04, 2011, 12:21:59 PM
Narela,
sounds to me you suffering some kind of libido-overload.
Maybe, but now i go to GYM 9:30 PM - 10:30 or 11:00 , and i'm so exhausted to think in it XD
I'm also taking ''Ibuprofen'', cause i have pain in my column, (guys beat me XD)
so... my libido is down now... but it will return one day (Not sure if you follow me) mmm...
''Ibuprofen side effects''
Quote from: Axélle on August 04, 2011, 12:21:59 PM
Not sure if you follow me, yet it's not appropriate here to go into the lower details if you please.
Yes
Quote from: Axélle on August 03, 2011, 09:05:53 AM
And that president of yours... extra crass.
>:-), He is the best president!!!
No kidding, No sarcasm---------------------------------------
More Non-Op here? or i'm the only (for now I'm the only) ¬_¬
I don't trust in LOVE, this is other reason cause i don't want SRS, i don't want a partner
If i want sex i can... (you understand)
Quote from: Narela on August 04, 2011, 03:53:10 PM
sorry for my comment... , but i think you don't understand... you don't feel anything, if they do something wrong (surgeons), I don't mean orgasm
For me, the risk of permanent numbness or an inability to reach an orgasm was still worth having SRS compared the the alternative of being stuck with the wrong genitals and not being able to have ANY enjoyment of the rest of my life (I don't know that I would have lived to 30 had I not been able to have surgery).
Quote from: Ann Onymous on August 04, 2011, 04:05:25 PM
For me, the risk of permanent numbness or an inability to reach an orgasm was still worth having SRS compared the the alternative of being stuck with the wrong genitals and not being able to have ANY enjoyment of the rest of my life (I don't know that I would have lived to 30 had I not been able to have surgery).
They are only genitals, i don't gonna show it in the street
This discussion remind me this ...
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,101703.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,101703.0.html)
I like how Spanish people talk, lol
Quote from: Narela on August 04, 2011, 05:16:26 PM
They are only genitals, i don't gonna show it in the street
This discussion remind me this ...
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,101703.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,101703.0.html)
while it may not be something on display in teh streets, they ARE on display in places like locker rooms and bedrooms. And I refused to have a life of incongruence.
Maybe others can live with a different decision...I could not. I fixed the birth defect. Life is good and has now been good for about as long as you have been alive...
Maybe others can live with a different decision...I could not. ... Life is good and has now been good for about as long as you have been alive
I support everyone's right to find that place where it's right for them, and giving them the freedom to live that life.
What I think Narela means by 'orgasm' is the ability to still feel those sensations caused by masturbation but experiencing them as a woman being penetrated would feel them. I know that penetration isn't the be all of sexual intimacy but it is a major part.
Narela perhaps lives in a country were SRS is virtually unheard off or is wildly expensive and so she has come to embrace like me the status of non-op? If you must know I think that Americans are so brainwashed by doctors, big pharma etc from their earliest days that they don't realise how they appear to people from other countries, especially non-English speaking countries. Dr POH prescribes a healthy dose of caution and scepticism when it comes to doctors.
Americans are so brainwashed by doctors, big pharma etc from their earliest days
It's ever so much worse then you think. It's like a religion. If the doctor says so... is the only validation that matters. It's all about the pills - medicine in America is measured in doses.
Lord help me-Thank you so much Princess for your summation of Americans in general-pray tell us what country you are from.
Narela is from Mexico.
Quote from: tekla on August 04, 2011, 07:00:43 PM
Americans are so brainwashed by doctors, big pharma etc from their earliest days
It's ever so much worse then you think. It's like a religion. If the doctor says so... is the only validation that matters. It's all about the pills - medicine in America is measured in doses.
The consumer is as much to blame.
They take an ambulance to the emergency room for something they may or may not need to even see a doctor just becuase they read somewhere that they'll be seen faster that way (definitely not true BTW). That they even go to the emergency room in the first place is becuase they've lived a life of "on demand" and the idea of having to wait (which oddlyl the ER is best at) is beneath them. Regardless of how they make contact with a doctor, after all that time and money that they've spent they want a shot or a pill or just something, but the last thing they want to be told is to drink plenty of fluids, get plenty of bed rest and whatever ails them will pass. Never mind that they certainly don't want to hear the words "infectious" when they have a life to live and have no intention of doing their part not to spread whatever germs they now have that someone else was too inconsiderate not to take basic steps to avoid infecting them with in the first place.
At the end of all this craziness is the doctor, usually a ER resident wishing they'd gone into "plastics" instead so they wouldn't have to moonlight at so many other ERs just to make ends meet, seeing their earnings get eaten up in malpractice insurance becuase it doesn't matter if you have a case or not, or even if the doc did anything wrong to begin with your lawyer told you you deserve a check.
Quote from: Randi on August 04, 2011, 07:02:53 PM
Lord help me-Thank you so much Princess for your summation of Americans in general-pray tell us what country you are from.
Narela is from Mexico.
I come from Great Britain Randi.
Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on August 04, 2011, 05:20:53 PM
I like how Spanish people talk, lol
She is not Spanish. For the first 150 years of Ecuador history only men from the south part of Spain (Extremadura and Andalucia) immigrate to Ecuador, as a consquence most of Ecuadorians are decedants of spanish and indians. The people of Loja speak a pretty good castillian. I spent several years in Ecuador, wonderful people. It is also noteworthy to note that the Ecuadorain natives are a differnt ethnic group than the Incas in the South (Peru and Bolivia) or the Chibchas in the north (Colombia). The Ecuadorian mestizo girls are quiet pretty and enchanting.
Kate D
Hola Narela
Puesto que usted no habla mucho Inglés pensé que iba a decir algo que en español. Espero que te gusta estar entre nosotros a Susan y que va a hacer un montón de amigos.
Princesa de Corazones
Quote from: Narela on August 04, 2011, 03:53:10 PM
sorry for my comment... , but i think you don't understand... you don't feel anything, if they do something wrong (surgeons), I don't mean orgasm
Quote from: Princess of Hearts on August 04, 2011, 06:51:05 PM
What I think Narela means by 'orgasm' is the ability to still feel those sensations caused by masturbation but experiencing them as a woman being penetrated would feel them. I know that penetration isn't the be all of sexual intimacy but it is a major part.
I know, it still shouldn't be a life or death situation if sexual sensation is lost.
Quote from: kate durcal on August 04, 2011, 07:47:36 PM
She is not Spanish. For the first 150 years of Ecuador history only men from the south part of Spain (Extremadura and Andalucia) immigrate to Ecuador, as a consquence most of Ecuadorians are decedants of spanish and indians. The people of Loja speak a pretty good castillian. I spent several years in Ecuador, wonderful people. It is also noteworthy to note that the Ecuadorain natives are a differnt ethnic group than the Incas in the South (Peru and Bolivia) or the Chibchas in the north (Colombia). The Ecuadorian mestizo girls are quiet pretty and enchanting.
Kate D
I was talking about the people in the video, and I think she's been living in Spain for awhile.
Quote from: Axélle on August 03, 2011, 07:24:18 AM
Some people orgasm by having their nipple tickled, breast fondled, just squeezing their thighs --- I speak about women.
For me, arousal is all in my breasts. ::) If I lost
THAT, it would be a whole lot worse than losing anything between my legs.
Quote from: Princess of Hearts on August 04, 2011, 08:07:15 PM
Hola Narela
Puesto que usted no habla mucho Inglés pensé que iba a decir algo que en español. Espero que te gusta estar entre nosotros a Susan y que va a hacer un montón de amigos.
Princesa de Corazones
Ok, thanks ''princesita'' , but plz write in english to me, i don't understand some parts here XD
* Hello Narela,
since you do not speak much English I was going to say something in Spanish. I hope you like being among us and that Susan will make you a lot of friends. *
That's what it says, easy peasy...
Axelle
Quote from: Lisbeth on August 05, 2011, 06:00:41 AM
For me, arousal is all in my breasts. ::) If I lost THAT, it would be a whole lot worse than losing anything between my legs.
YES! ;D
Quote from: Axélle on August 05, 2011, 09:29:16 AM
* Hello Narela,
since you do not speak much English I was going to say something in Spanish. I hope you like being among us and that Susan will make you a lot of friends. *
Axelle
Sorry Axelle, close but no cigar. What the Princess wrote in Spanish is
"Hello Narela
Since you do not speak a lot of English, I thougth I was going to say something in Spanish. I hope you like to be among us in Susan and that you will make a lot of male friends."
Properly stated in Castillan it should have read:
Como tu Ingles no es tan bueno, te voy ha decir mis deseos en Castillian. Ojala que te guste estar con nosotros en el lugar de Susana, y que ojala hagas muchas amistades.
Kate D (just trying to make conversation, peace)
Actually it was Google Translate that wrote that.
:D
Quote from: Princess of Hearts on August 04, 2011, 06:57:38 PM
Narela perhaps lives in a country were SRS is virtually unheard off or is wildly expensive and so she has come to embrace like me the status of non-op?
I live in spain since i have 8 years... i have citizenship, and i live in Andalucia.. here it is
FREE but you need hormones 2 years
Quote from: Princess of Hearts on August 05, 2011, 05:01:16 PM
Actually it was Google Translate that wrote that.
:D
Is bad, but is the better XD, and i only use this to some worlds or phrases, Princesita :p
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Quote from: Narela on August 05, 2011, 05:11:01 PM
I live in spain since i have 8 years... i have citizenship, and i live in Andalucia.. here it is FREE
but you need hormones 2 years
[Narela this is how you would write the above in British-English]
"I've lived Spain since I was 8...I live in Andalucia and I am now a Spanish citizen. Here in Spain SRS is free funded by the Spanish taxpayers. However, to qualify you need to have been on hormones for two years."
[I am learning several languages at the moment:Italian, French and Russian and I would be delighted if a native speaker of those languages gave me advice]
Is bad, but is the better XD, and i only use this to some worlds or phrases
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I stand corrected-Narela lives in Spain. Wish you both the best of luck.
Dear narela,
I also tend to non-op and used to post here occasionally. Unfortunately, some people have a problem with anyone who doesn't have exactly the same course, causes, extent of dysphoria as they do. Some will actually get extremely upset and accuse you of attacking them if you describe what seems to be good for YOU, and it is different then what THEY want. You are not less trans than they are. I have had successful and enjoyable sex with both males and females. None of it involved my penetrating another or acting as a guy. Like you, I was afraid of losing sensations and the ability to orgasm. After years of HRT I pretty much don't orgasm any more. But that works perfectly for the relationship between my wife and myself. It took quite a few years to get to that point. Having a vagina would not help her or I. I believe that I may very well end up an orchidectemy in the near future to cut down on the HRT medications. That seems right for me, at this point in my life.
You really have to do what is right for you. Listen to what others say with a grain of salt. They aren't you. I have seen Beautiful non-op transsexuals who pass incredibly well. They seem to be happy and have successful lives. I hope you do too.
Well said Cindy.
I have no objections to others going down the HRT and all the surgeries route, that is their own individual choice. I don't like it when they get all sniffy and judgemental about people who for a variety of legitimate reasons cannot or will not go down the pills and surgery route.
I have been a member here off and on since October 2008 and I lurked since 2005, and I can say that I have never known a time here at Susan's where most of the mtf members have been so fundamentalist in their views. Of course HRT and the different types of surgeries available were always important and discussed often and at length. However, there were plenty of other threads talking about the non-pills and surgery part of being a transsexual/transgender person. There used to be plenty of good advice about clothes, make-up, jewellery, hairstyles,etc. While those threads are still been written - albeit to a noticeably lesser extent that in the past - we seem to be becoming obsessed here at Susan's about pills and surgeries.
My mother said something to me when I came out that I didn't fully appreciate the significance of at the time. I had spoken for over one hour, almost without pausing and she said to me ' I think that you have got too much time on your hands to think about all this'. At the time I thought it was a rather dismissive comment, but I have come to realise that she was right. Since I have started living as a female - within the family at least - I have discovered that I simply get on with my life. I don't think about my ->-bleeped-<- to nearly the same extent that I did before coming out. I suspect that my mother and sister's complete and utter support for my lifestyle has greatly contributed to feeling much more calm and centred than I used to. Perhaps if I lived alone, or if I lived with a partner/wife who was hot and cold about my ->-bleeped-<- I wouldn't feel as accepted as I do. I can wear an skirt or a dress in front of my mother and sister. I can wear full make-up and sit and apply my make-up in front of my mother without any sign of disapproval, or concern that her son is behaving in a very unmanly way. I even wear bras everyday at my mother suggestion. I wouldn't have had this level of psychological satisfaction had I lived alone. My mother and sister often say to me that blouse etc really suits you, or that lipstick is your colour. I have made fashion and make-up mistakes but my family doesn't say 'why are you wearing that? You're a boy for heaven's sake!' My mother will say ' I don't think that is quite you', and more often that not I agree with her. Living on your own and having too much time to think and analyse everything from every conceivable angle, and without any direct emotional support will drive you round the bend, sooner or later.
Quote from: Narela on August 04, 2011, 05:16:26 PM
They are only genitals, i don't gonna show it in the street
This discussion remind me this ...
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,101703.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,101703.0.html)
They are a direct source of dysphoria and alarm for many. One can express differing opinions in a tactful and respectful manner. It doesn't have to be so rudely incredulous, regardless of one's opinion on surgery.
i'm nonop but not really sure if i want a surgery or not
Quote from: aphrodite on October 29, 2011, 01:42:01 AM
i'm nonop but not really sure if i want a surgery or not
?
Don't worry about aphrodite's post, she was a banned member returning under an assumed name to cause more trouble, and has been banned again.
Quote from: Padma on October 29, 2011, 04:37:49 AM
Don't worry about aphrodite's post, she was a banned member returning under an assumed name to cause more trouble, and has been banned again.
I knew it was Jamie Nicole when I wrote my '?' post. I couldn't understand why someone who is trying to present themselves as respectable and have respectable differences of opinions with non-ops, would A) write something that didn't make any sense at all, or B) be completely disingenuous by knowing she is post-op and pretending she is not. I guess she was looking for more ammo in her war against what she perceives as non-op oppression.
How about trying to go 'under cover' - ?
Since she was not going to come back and say: Hi, it's me Jamie!!!
How ingenious would that have been, or?... now what say you?
Axelle
Quote from: Axélle on October 29, 2011, 11:51:48 AM
How about trying to go 'under cover' - ?
Since she was not going to come back and say: Hi, it's me Jamie!!!
How ingenious would that have been, or?... now what say you?
Axelle
I'd give her the same answers regardless if she was pre-, post-, or non-. Under cover is generally only used to discover discrepancies, dig up dirt, etc. Sucks she felt the need to do that. Did she think by putting up that post the non-ops were going to talk her OUT of surgery?
There is no dirt to dig up? What dirt? Am I missing something? Too little non-paranoia?
She just wanted to come back I guess, and those posts tried to be terribly benign, even if done with tongue in cheek...
Just a thought, am not a conspiracy expert,
Axelle
Can we get back on subject here? More non-op here?
I am a non op.
I am a non-op, lesbian women. I get a lot of flack from my local support group (and on here when I started being active on here) for a number of reasons:
I do not see myself as trans, but rather as having a body defect.
I do not want to have SRS because I am not happy with the current results. As a Gynecology Tech I see plenty of Vaginas, and anyone who thinks that their SRS looks natural is fooling themselves. As soon as the results are better you can count me in.
I would have had BA and FFS but my small B cup fits my small frame, and I am luck to have a feminine face. I have only had electrolysis and hormones, for 6 years now. I have no problems passing and I am out to fewer than a dozen people outside of family members and the local support group.
I completely understand how difficult it is to be non-op, I am just out of a 3 year relationship with a lesbian woman. I am finding it very hard to meet women who are interested in me as a non-op.
-Lef
Quote from: Cindy Stephens on August 06, 2011, 11:08:35 AM
Dear narela,
I also tend to non-op and used to post here occasionally. Unfortunately, some people have a problem with anyone who doesn't have exactly the same course, causes, extent of dysphoria as they do. Some will actually get extremely upset and accuse you of attacking them if you describe what seems to be good for YOU, and it is different then what THEY want. You are not less trans than they are. I have had successful and enjoyable sex with both males and females. None of it involved my penetrating another or acting as a guy. Like you, I was afraid of losing sensations and the ability to orgasm. After years of HRT I pretty much don't orgasm any more. But that works perfectly for the relationship between my wife and myself. It took quite a few years to get to that point. Having a vagina would not help her or I. I believe that I may very well end up an orchidectemy in the near future to cut down on the HRT medications. That seems right for me, at this point in my life.
You really have to do what is right for you. Listen to what others say with a grain of salt. They aren't you. I have seen Beautiful non-op transsexuals who pass incredibly well. They seem to be happy and have successful lives. I hope you do too.
Quote from: leflauren678 on November 09, 2011, 12:58:21 PM
I am a non-op, lesbian women. I get a lot of flack from my local support group (and on here when I started being active on here) for a number of reasons:
I get flack her for being a non op and transgender performer. Rather look the part, than have the part.
Quote from: Narela on August 03, 2011, 05:30:25 AM
I felt weird :embarrassed:
All you guys/gals talk about SRS... and seems to be very important...
By now I'm sure you've noticed you're not the only non-op here. As for me, I do plan on having SRS.
Quote from: JenJen2011 on November 09, 2011, 01:44:38 PM
By now I'm sure you've noticed you're not the only non-op here. As for me, I do plan on having SRS.
Yeah, it's lonely :(
I totally support you on getting SRS.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 09, 2011, 01:50:30 PM
Yeah, it's lonely :(
I totally support you on getting SRS.
Aww, you think so? I know several girls who don't want to have SRS. And thanks. I support you 100% on keeping your penis. :)
Quote from: JenJen2011 on November 09, 2011, 01:55:55 PM
Aww, you think so? I know several girls who don't want to have SRS. And thanks. I support you 100% on keeping your penis. :)
Yeah, they are the silent minority in the transcommunity. But I don't think if someone wants surgery or not really matters. It is their personal business.
Quote from: JenJen2011 on November 09, 2011, 01:44:38 PM
By now I'm sure you've noticed you're not the only non-op here. As for me, I do plan on having SRS.
Forgive me for asking, but was there a point to this post?
Quote from: brIAnna (interalia) on November 09, 2011, 06:33:38 PM
Forgive me for asking, but was there a point to this post?
Yah. Its called SUPPORT for the non-ops among us.
Currently I plan on having SRS in about 12 months time, but things could change in the meantime. It's possible that I might not be able to for medical reasons for instance. If that was the case I would look at the possibility of Orchiectomy, but if that was contraindicated, I would just have to live with it. Lets face it, it would be better to be alive with a penis than not!
There are lots of women out there in that situation, or simply unable to afford SRS. There are also some like Mahsa, who feel they don't need it. It would certainly make the whole process cheaper and less stressful to be able to live that way. I am happy for them not having GID to that degree.
Julia Serano, who I understand is non-op, summed it up pretty well I think. She said something to the effect that," the world is just going to have to learn to cope with men with vaginas and women with penises." When we reach that stage it will be interesting to see whether the concept of 'transition' will still even have any meaning.
To me this is a feminist issue, of women being able to do whatever they want with their own body, without being judged by others.
Karen.
Quote from: justmeinoz on November 10, 2011, 05:41:06 AM
To me this is a feminist issue, of women being able to do whatever they want with their own body, without being judged by others.
Karen.
Interesting take on it and well said.
Quote from: JenJen2011 on November 10, 2011, 08:25:00 AM
Yup.
Guess trolling is a valid reason. ;)
Quote from: brIAnna (interalia) on November 10, 2011, 03:39:52 PM
Guess trolling is a valid reason. ;)
More like, I think differently than you do. As if I cared what you thought...I don't.
Quote from: brIAnna (interalia) on November 10, 2011, 03:39:52 PMGuess trolling is a valid reason. ;)
No. It's called replying to the OP's question. Get a life and don't question me.
I will not do anything down there. It is just not for me.
I will put my money on the face and other more obvious features.
I am non-op! I don't want bottom surgery! I am lesbian and quite enjoy my built in strap-on and so does my girlfriend!
I am non-op, the thought bothers me so damn much that I can't think about it long enough to come to a conclusion.
Bother, bother... So most likely I'll end up not getting an operation. I don't have sex, I prefer foreplay to sex in almost any case anyways.
I am confident in my body which is great, so I too am keeping my penis, yay for not being alone.
Maga Girl and all :)
I am a non-op and I will remain this way. I never once thought about SRS but I also have learned that it can be the one most important thing for someone.
To me, I have accepted myself, so anything that comes with me, stays with me. :)
In terms of relationship, if someone who wants to be with me, they will then have to accept me for my body. If they can't, than we're not a good match and they will have to move one.
In my opinion, one should never change their gender because of partner, social status, legal documents, etc. You become who you want to be, because that's exactly what you want for your life.
Keep warm :)
G
I will gladly not have SRS. I really don't want major surgery that takes months of recovery, especially because some of them are botched and they CUT IT IN HALF then fold it in. It just sounds like too much for me. Plus, I love activity and sitting in recovery would suck; I'd be bored! Don't get me wrong, if there were some magical way to have the procedure done instantly with no recovery or boatload of cash, I would do it. Unfortunately, that's not the case, so oh well. I have more important priorities like my face and life. Besides, my mom just told me she hates having a vagina (don't know why, but she said it after coming out of the bathroom, so I don't want to know).
Good luck in your transitions, everyone. :)
I contacted the rooms of the Surgeon I had planned to perform my SRS, hopefully in November or December, and found he has no dates before University starts again next year. So I would have to wait 18 months until the next long Uni break.
However after what has happened over the last week or so it doesn't bother me. After a lot of family and personal trauma, I am now a lot more secure in my self-identity and my operative status is no longer of any concern. Basically, it didn't kill me but left me stronger. Mind you it was touch and go for a bit.
I have moved away from the description Translesbian and now tend to think of myself as Genderqueer for want of a better term. This is a result of coming to see myself as just another sort of woman, who happens to have atypical genitalia. From the point of relationships and sex, I have learned to achieve whole body orgasm form touch just about anywhere on my body, so genitalia are sort of irrelevant anyway.
As has been said many times, transition has many stops along the way, and some people reverse direction from time to time as well. Whatever works is okay.
Karen.
I really don't know what the future holds...
I would truly love to go full throttle (have mtf SRS), but it is certainly not very realistic at this point in my life.
(and yes... that's a pretty casual use of the word "love": i should prefer to have no surgery of any kind... but do believe that this one would be worth-while...)
Sadie out.