I'm 20 years old and I'm 5'0".
5'2" with insoles. And 5'6-7" when I cosplay. I wear 6-7" stacks when I cosplay, and there I get away with it, could be 5'8-9" in said stacks, but haven't tried wearing them with my insoles.
But even at 5'2", I still feel that my height is currently the only (physical) thing that keeps me from passing 100%.
What can I do about it? Is there any slim chance that I've still got some potential growing? And what do other shorter guys do about it?
They laugh at it. Trust me, of all things that keep you from passing height isn't one of them.
Then I guess I'll find out when I get to campus. I'm currently stuck in my small (maybe 600-700 people population) town where I grew up. And if people don't just keep thinking of me as the "girl" they knew from elementary/middle/highschool, my parents kill any chances I have at passing when they fail to use proper pronouns. =A=
Eh, I'm only 5 feet tall as well.
The people who know me as male, know me as a tiny male.
You may get lucky and grow, but I wouldn't bet on it. I'm 5'5 and I hate it. I plan on getting some nice lifts but im going to wait until I've been on T for a few months and let my feet grow. I suggest getting bigger, lift and eat. Increasing your mass will make people think you're bigger than you are.
Yea. I passed in Germany, and for the most part I pass with strangers (as long as my mom isn't around, she almost refuses to call me a he). But I've only been "out" for just over a month. So those that know me as male, are those that know me, really well. I don't really encounter that many strangers. Which kind of sucks, especially when I'm at the McDonald's where I used to work at and have to use the restroom. I get awkward stares from all my former coworkers.
I do lift, when possible. Right now it's not. But when I get back to campus, I'll get back to regularly using the weight room. Until then, I do a lot of general exercises (push-ups, sit-ups, crunches, etc.) and I use my ab lounge and pull up bar.
Quote from: Sharky on August 12, 2011, 01:12:06 AM
You may get lucky and grow, but I wouldn't bet on it. I'm 5'5 and I hate it. I plan on getting some nice lifts but im going to wait until I've been on T for a few months and let my feet grow. I suggest getting bigger, lift and eat. Increasing your mass will make people think you're bigger than you are.
I'm 5'5" and pass as a guy :D
Too bad I don't wanna :(
BTW, sorry but I clicked the wrong forum, and read the topic thinking for some reason that this was the "all" transsexuals board.
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on August 12, 2011, 01:47:23 AM
BTW, sorry but I clicked the wrong forum, and read the topic thinking for some reason that this was the "all" transsexuals board.
It's cool. I think getting a variety of opinions from the entire gender spectrum makes it more informative and more...well, accurate. So thanks!
I am not much taller or older than you, TheAwesomePrussia. Height never prevented me from passing, even pre-T. I get teased a bit about it sometimes, or sometimes people think I am younger than I really am, but they never question whether I am male because of it. Yeah, being this short can be difficult (reaching things, finding a date shorter than you, having to shorten your pants always), but there are cis-men that are just as short and nobody takes them as less male for it either. I really do not do much about my height, and there is not much you can do about it. I find the best thing is to dress in a way that does not emphasize my lack of height. If you do not bring attention to it, you might find people will not notice it so much.
I suppose it's just that a lot of my friends poke at me about it. I pretty much just roll with it, but sometimes it does piss me off. And I've seen a few threads on here claiming that someone may not pass because of height. Again, looking at it now, I think it's more where I am than what I look like. I'm pretty confident in my ability to pass once I get back on campus and out of my small hometown.
I won't lie. I have a Napoleon-complex. I'm short, and I make up for it by being an active leader (I'm studying to be a politician), but sometimes my height just pisses me off more than other times. B/
I've looked into getting some shoes and boots that are made in such a way that they conceal their own height. But they're pretty pricey, around $70-90 or so. ^^;
For now, I just wear 2" insoles that I got from the same people that made my 3-in-1 packer.
Quote from: TheAwesomePrussia on August 12, 2011, 02:58:37 AM
I've looked into getting some shoes and boots that are made in such a way that they conceal their own height. But they're pretty pricey, around $70-90 or so. ^^;
For now, I just wear 2" insoles that I got from the same people that made my 3-in-1 packer.
Most elevator shoes (or boots) would run $80-$160 new, before taxes and shipping.
Does those 2" insoles cause you any ankle pain?
Not really. I've worn much more uncomfortable things for the sake of cosplay (8" stiletto heels with black full-body paint, slit red contacts, and 2" long sharp nails for a demon cosplay [add that to the fact that I didn't have a binder yet, so I was wearing ace wrap]). And as I said, for cosplay I wear 6-7" stack combat boots.
Two inches is nothing. Actually, they're rather cushy.
Yea. I get it from my gf and my younger brother, as well as my mother (even though she's shorter than me). But sometimes I get it from people I've just met at a con, or someone mentions my boots during an "Ask a Nation" panel when I'm supposed to be in character, which pisses me off because "in character" I'm wearing normal boots. So it's just, bothersome really.
QuoteHeight never prevented me from passing, even pre-T.
Ditto that.
A short guy is still a guy.
I was standing in line behind a dude who had some reason to be there awhile. At first, all I saw was dude in a yellow shirt.
Eventually, I realized that I towered over both him and the cashier. Only even noticed because there was enough time for it.
I'm 5'5 when I stand up straight.
I know plenty of guys my height or shorter, so it's not a big concern.
Yeah, I see 5 nothin guys all the time at school man
Don't worry about it. I don't know what you're feeling and I'm not sure if it's part of your dysphoria(I'm not going through it. I got lucky. I'm 5'9) but as said above, a short guy is still a guy. I see short guys all the time and my friends have dads that are about 5'4 - 5'6 - so I think you're ok.
Best Remedy for Height consciousness? Get used to it. Learn to joke about it. Love yourself, even your height. Sure, it sucks to be short and pass for your age. As most people think you're younger (not less of a male) when you're a shorter guy. But I know PLENTY of guys that are my height or only a couple inches taller or shorter than me. I'm super skinny, and I wear fitted clothes so it makes me seem taller. But, I have no problem being my height. I'm short, but I'm awesome. So whatever. Have confidence, and a girl taller than you will never notice. She'll just see the confidence.
Im 5'2", I am MTF but lived until 18 hiding it and ironically it was the thing I hated the most back then! I constantly got made fun of for being short but even with long hair no one thought I was less male because of my height, so don't worry! (just grow a thick skin ;))
Being short is more of a problem for you as you see yourself as being the shortest guy around you. Once you get on campus are have students who don't know your history everything should go much better. I find at my university those who do not know my history are all see me as one of the guys.
Yea. I start to feel a lot better about it after being with my gf. She's the kind of girl who's only "insensitive" to make a point. She knows I get riled when she makes fun of my height, but she also knows I get better at dealing with it.
I've found one thing when I hang out my other friend who's ftm. We short guys walk faster than everyone else. 8I Wonder why that is?
I guess it's one of those things that tends to bother me after the facts more than anything else.
And it might be part of my dysphoria. I kind of got lucky in other respects. Mid-level voice (though it could be better), fairly masculine facial features (if not masculine than neutral), high hairline, wide shoulders, thick leg muscles, and an extremely small chest. So it may just be that it's one of the few things I find about myself that I'm uncomfortable with. especially since both my brothers are a head taller than me. Only other thing I dislike about my physical features is my back end (but my gf likes it, so I'm a little more comfortable with it) and the things no one else can see.
you have the right attitude keep your pluses in mind first. You are the one who can best control your dysphoria. My worst time is the two days I have cramps and start to leak blood every month.
I understand that one... But for me, it's more frantic than anything. Every other month I have a cyst rupture a week or so beforehand and wonder if this is the one that's going to make me pass out, and how long I can wait before I have to go to a hospital because of it. So far I've only passed out from a rupture once, but it scared the hell out of me. So the next week just ends up being me frantically figuring out new ways to hide the fact that I'm bleeding. The dysphoria comes either after it's over, or that week before... I call it the foreigner in my body, and I swear it's trying to kill me.
Yours are much worst than mine, I feel for you every month. After the first day or so, I change my tampon in the morning and evening normally and can forget about it the rest of the time. I use a men's restroom on campus and try to go when I need to change when there is hardly anyone around so I can easily put in the old deep in the trash. You will have to decide what will work best for you.
As it stands now. At the least an oophorectomy for me is likely going to be covered by insurance. It's just a matter of when I'll have the time for it, or if I'll end up not getting to choose the "when" and just have to take the inconvenient blow to my school schedule... They said it shouldn't get that much worse before I graduate. But it's not POCD, it's just...cysts. Large cysts. And none of the doctors I've seen can figure out why.
For me, glide tampons work best. I can still use my STP, and they're smooth enough that I can't feel them going in. I'm usually back home by the time I need to change, so I don't have to worry as much.
I'm significantly luckier than you, Im about 5'9 in shoes. But confidence, really.
Most of my male friensd are 6'0+ and often have "Wtf, i forgot you're short" moments
If you can do lifts.. I've heard they're uncomfy and look a little unnatural at times.
Im thinking dress to create illusion you're taller. Stripes, wearing clothes that are the right length or *VERY* slightly longer (If you have to roll your pants up, they're too long... which is how i wear my pants but yeah.)
Did I mention confidence?
I got the confidence bit. At least in public. But like I said, it usually just bothers me after the fact. :/
(too lazy to read all these comments)
Anyways I read once before that melatonin is what helps people grow (which you need to sleep, and you get more if the lights are completely off) if you do have a chance of growing anymore. My sister is just grew an inch, before she turned 24. She's not on T or anything, but I don't know, she just wouldn't stop growing and me the younger one (supposed to be 5'8") am stuck at 5'1".
The only thing I can think of are lifts and to be honest I feel kind of creepy when thinking about wearing them. Also I knew a cis gendered guy who was 5' but because he had a more masculine face, it's obvious that he's not female. His lack of hips, flat butt, and zero chest also help, lol.
I pass quite often (when my mum's not around saying she >:() but I pass as a young boy, nobody ever thinks I'm twenty!
Quote from: Ratchet on August 12, 2011, 01:50:36 PM
Best Remedy for Height consciousness? Get used to it. Learn to joke about it. Love yourself, even your height. Sure, it sucks to be short and pass for your age. As most people think you're younger (not less of a male) when you're a shorter guy. But I know PLENTY of guys that are my height or only a couple inches taller or shorter than me. I'm super skinny, and I wear fitted clothes so it makes me seem taller. But, I have no problem being my height. I'm short, but I'm awesome. So whatever. Have confidence, and a girl taller than you will never notice. She'll just see the confidence.
This. Im 19 (20 in October) and 5 foot. I pass 24/7 but it sucks bc nobody believes Im in college. Everybody pegs me as a high schooler, 15-17. But if I wasnt short, it wouldnt be me. On my college campus, there are A LOT of short bioguys. If you dont make it a big deal, then it isnt.
Quote from: TheAwesomePrussia on August 12, 2011, 03:46:51 PM
As it stands now. At the least an oophorectomy for me is likely going to be covered by insurance. It's just a matter of when I'll have the time for it, or if I'll end up not getting to choose the "when" and just have to take the inconvenient blow to my school schedule... They said it shouldn't get that much worse before I graduate. But it's not POCD, it's just...cysts. Large cysts. And none of the doctors I've seen can figure out why.
For me, glide tampons work best. I can still use my STP, and they're smooth enough that I can't feel them going in. I'm usually back home by the time I need to change, so I don't have to worry as much.
Cysts are normal, having them rupture and bleed weekly, not so much. What most physicians would do is prescribe you birth control (which I'm sure you don't want) to regulate your hormones and keep those cysts in check.
I'm also a reasonable adult-male height and I've never felt that height had much to do with passing, it was more how I carried or conducted myself.
Yea. I got that more while I was actually out today (for once).
As far as the cysts, my biggest issue is that they're bigger each time, and each time I seem to get more and more faint after a rupture. As I said, the last time I passed out, presumably from pain and blood loss. They not weekly, but rather, random. I have a rupture the week before almost every other red tide. But sometimes, around 2 or 3 times a year, I'll just have a rupture, nowhere close to my monthly.
The only thing I'd remotely consider, prior to T, is depo. I've been told it potentially stops periods all together. Again, it's something I'll just need to bring up when I can get an appointment (which won't be until I get back on campus, and back on Medicaid).
Until then, just hope that the next one won't send me to the hospital...
When I was last ex-rayed after my car wreck, they later sent me a notice that I had about 3 ovarian cysts, two of which were rather large. So I don't know what it is. I have a friend with POCD, but she says she only ever gets small cysts, just in large quantities.
Quote from: TheAwesomePrussia on August 12, 2011, 12:40:33 AM
I'm 20 years old and I'm 5'0".
5'2" with insoles. And 5'6-7" when I cosplay. I wear 6-7" stacks when I cosplay, and there I get away with it, could be 5'8-9" in said stacks, but haven't tried wearing them with my insoles.
But even at 5'2", I still feel that my height is currently the only (physical) thing that keeps me from passing 100%.
What can I do about it? Is there any slim chance that I've still got some potential growing? And what do other shorter guys do about it?
ARG had wrotte a long reply earlyer but now its all gone....
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anyway.
what to do..?
well stand up straight helps, most transguys have issues with there back or cheast so there often bening over sligly all the time, wich make us look smaller..
another thing is to have shoes with thick sole and so on.
if your having it like 10,cm people would notice.. but if your having booths who is 2-3 cm over the ground people wouldnt really mind.
beside this I dont think there much you can do about it. I also hate my hight, It makes the guys think im always the "little cute one" wich is somethimes annoying -__-
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btw, in cosplay it dosent matter that much if your small, since many of the original characters are "japanese" so many of them are.. (for european people) kinda small..
Most of them. Though I cosplay Hetalia and the characters I cosplay are European (and one American). :P
But again, in cosplay, people don't tend to really care about your shoes. Though, most of the time people think mine are really cool and ask where I got the skill to walk in them. xD