...she asks you to be the maid of honor at her wedding. ;D And yes, I've accepted.
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!
It's going to be a little strange facing my former in-laws, oh yes it is.
Wow! Congrats! And yes that will be interesting lol.
Wow. I'm impressed. I highly doubt that my ex would do that. Of course I haven't taken or returned a call from her in over 7 years now.
Yeah, it's going to be very interesting. :laugh: Her stepmother is quite the piece of work. Believes she knows everybody better than they know themselves. She even claimed she knew my aunt better than I did (and she'd never met my aunt). Oh, but she's a doctor, so that makes it okay. Family practice, that sort of thing.
I'm actually looking forward to everything else!
You know, this isn't the first time it's happened to me this year, but the first time was kind of bizarre. About three months after I came out to two of my friends (a couple), she confided in me that I had already been picked as best man. Then I unwittingly threw a monkey wrench into that one by not physically being a man anymore. :laugh: In every other way, I never was much of one. I should propose they make a different arrangement to get me on his side of the aisle considering we've been best friends for 18 years.
That is way cool ;D
That is an "honor" I think I would decline. Given my former in-laws, I can't imagine it turning out at all well.
Uhm. Wow. Thats nothing short of awesome.. ;D thats going to be hard to sell when you write your autobiography ;D
That is just awesome Zoe. My ex gave me a hug the last ime I saw her before moving, but that is just beyond fantastic.
Karen.
Wow that is exciting, I would be happy if mine turned up with a revolver instead of a shotgun.
What's really amazing to me is that her fiance is totally on board with this arrangement! It's a special type of man who doesn't kick up a fuss when his bride's maid of honor is her ex-husband. :icon_weirdface: Then again, she doesn't refer to me as that anymore. To the people she knows, she refers to me as her ex-wife, something her and I both find exceptionally funny. ;D The only other person in her bridal party is her gay friend who is 6'4" and H.O.T!!! I keep having to remind myself "He's gay, Zoë, he's gay. Stop drooling, Zoë, he's gay." Grr. Now if we could convince her fiance to take her FTM friend as his best man...
I just helped her pick out her wedding dress today, so next on the agenda is to find a dress for me. The wedding could be very soon because her fiance's grandmother wants to see his wedding before she passes and her health suddenly took a turn for the worse. So this wedding got changed from "sometime in the next couple years" to "sometime in the next two months, most likely."
Somebody pinch me. Is this actually happening?! This is not the life I recognize from a short six months ago. :laugh:
Quote from: Zoë Natasha on August 29, 2011, 03:03:42 AM
What's really amazing to me is that her fiance is totally on board with this arrangement! It's a special type of man who doesn't kick up a fuss when his bride's maid of honor is her ex-husband. :icon_weirdface: Then again, she doesn't refer to me as that anymore. To the people she knows, she refers to me as her ex-wife, something her and I both find exceptionally funny. ;D The only other person in her bridal party is her gay friend who is 6'4" and H.O.T!!! I keep having to remind myself "He's gay, Zoë, he's gay. Stop drooling, Zoë, he's gay." Grr. Now if we could convince her fiance to take her FTM friend as his best man...
I just helped her pick out her wedding dress today, so next on the agenda is to find a dress for me. The wedding could be very soon because her fiance's grandmother wants to see his wedding before she passes and her health suddenly took a turn for the worse. So this wedding got changed from "sometime in the next couple years" to "sometime in the next two months, most likely."
Somebody pinch me. Is this actually happening?! This is not the life I recognize from a short six months ago. :laugh:
Totally fantastic Zoe, totally. totally.
Hugs Sis
Cindy
Wow! It just keeps getting better. :)
Still likely to be lots of talent floating around anyway Zoe, even if the HOT one is gay!!
Karen.
Remember Maid of Honor gets first pick of the grooms friends :laugh:. Are going to the Hen's night?
Sorry so many questions so happy for you.
And you get to wear a gorgeous gown.
Pics please, every girl on the site is gunning for you and we all want to know the details. I reckon you wear a corset to get a cute body shape, and I do not mean a fetish corset. Something to pull the tummy in and empathise the hips and boobs. What are you going to do with your hair, it is long and gorgeous so you have lots of options.
You have made my day honey.
Hugs
Cindy
It's not scheduled to be a big event at this point. :laugh: That will probably be next summer. Really, there are going to be 17 people at this first ceremony, and nothing's been planned for the before and after. At this point, they're not even planning a honeymoon until sometime in the future. My ex just started a new job on August 1 and was barely able to circumvent her office's rule on no vacations in one's first six months of employment, because she and her fiance bought and paid for a nonrefundable cruise at the end of December (her new employer took pity and allowed the time off). They did this before she even started looking for a new job, so the new office's rule almost jeopardized their preexisting plans.
The other reason this wedding isn't big is because it's being arranged and carried out on a moment's notice due to uncertainty about the groom's grandmother's prognosis. Potential guests would only be given a few weeks' notice at this late date. They've already rushed to arrange a location, a rabbi, family blessings, a ring (not two rings yet though), and my ex just got her dress yesterday. The latter also occurred at a moment's notice. Her fiance was looking at dresses online Sunday night, found one at Nordstrom's that they both liked, she went to the mall yesterday, found they had one in the store, it just happened to be her size, she tried it on, and fell in love with it. Then she called me to ask if I'd rush out to the mall to give my opinion on the dress. :laugh: She originally said that she wanted me to be there to pick out her dress because I was the only person whose fashion judgment she really trusted.
Take a guess at who did all of her clothes shopping when we were married... ;)
The rest of the details? We now know that her dress is off-white and she wants pink shoes. She said she wants white roses because that's her favorite flower, but I suggested bouquets that are about 75% pink and 25% white to correspond with her colors (though in opposing quantities). What color I'm going to wear? Her and I will have to work that out. ;D But since they're having a traditional Jewish wedding--something I've never been to before--she has to wear something over her shoulders to cover the fact that her dress is strapless. We really have to work on colors! It'll be much easier when she tries the altered dress on this Sunday.
Corset? I don't have one... will just have to see if I can find a dress that flatters my figure because I know those exist! And for hair, neither of us have decided what to do. My ex is really into 1940's chic, and she has this dream of her hair being done up in tight little rolls on the sides of her head, wearing one of those veils that only comes down to the nose and has a hat. And, of course, red lipstick! I went totally gaga for the idea, thinking that her fiance could simply slick his hair back and be all dapper. But he doesn't like this idea at all. :laugh: So we're back to the drawing board!
All this planning is kind of fun!
Kind of? Kind of? Uhm. Yes.
Ladies and gentlemen, meet Zoë Natasha, queen of understatement :-D :-D
Uhm, i dont like weddings. But your description got me all excited and wanting to pick clothes and decorations andandand...... Made my day!
Congratulations!
I'm happy to hear your former relationship has grown to this, where you can both be happy for each other and there for one another. :)
Congrats Zoe,
You so have to catch the bouquet! This is probably the only one time you're glad you got a little male(sports) training as a lad. I know you only have pencil arms, but just go for it girl! Remember- hip and shoulder and watch out for their nails. You know how us females can be :P
hehehe,
Pics of the dress please
Jenny
Oh, there will be pictures of the dress when we find it. ;D And about my arms: they're so narrow because my arm span is 6'8" (whereas I'm only 5'11") and long muscles don't get much in the way of girth. I'll need them considering my *ahem* sports training was absolutely nil. lol Seriously, I was so bad at sports I stayed away from them all.
Except fencing... that was a blast and I was fantastic at it! Hmmm. Bring an epee?
Congratulations, Zoe!
That is super exciting!
Sounds like a fantastic time already Zoe, and you haven't got past picking dresses!
As for the bouquet, just look at a bit of Aussie Rules football, you'll get the idea of standing on the opponents shoulders to get the ball! (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmm.afl.com.au%2FPortals%2F0%2FLiamJurrahmarkL.jpg&hash=9926ee08398640af11ae5668c081290b192c9e25)
Karen.
I can see our Zoe doing that. Up there Ca Zoe ly.
Sorry hun an aussie rules footy song and I cannot remember the rest. Do you know a you tube Karen?
Cindy
I'll see if I can find one, probably Collingwood though! >:-)
Karen.
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Up There, Cazaly (HQ AUDIO) Aussie Rules anthem Ch7 Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad9hBMNrg3U#)
Thanks Tekla, you beat me to it. Collingwood at the start too!
So Zoe, all you have to do really is get a few paces run up, and jump into the opponents other girls back, and sort of run up them as they crash to the ground. Should work a treat!
Karen.
Thanks Kat,
I have no idea why anyone want to put there body through that except $$$$$$.
I think the max salary in the AFL is about $1m the average is less than $100k?
Then you guys get ex AFL players being punters. Oh are they soft.
Cindy
Yeah I do pretty quick research. It's my 'other' life. I post on here because I pass by it (tabbed browsers) as I'm looking up other stuff from other sources for other people, or printing it out. I've got 3 computers on 24/7 here, and one at work (because why make only one paycheck at a time?).
Football here pays (mandatory minimum, as of a year or two ago) rookies and first-year players-$295,000. Second-year players-$370,000. Third-year-$445,000.
The highest paid is Payton Manning, @ $23,000,000 a year, and it's looking like he's hurt so bad he's not going to play a game this year.
Very high pay for some AFL players.
They are use to kicking long goals, and they are very use to tackle. And giving it out. We are a strange people with a strong culture, we do not give in, sometimes I wish we would.
I think the Aussie psyche is;if I'm the last person left, attack is the only option. And we never attack to lose.
The animals on our National Coat of Arms are appropriate, kangaroos and emus can't go backwards. Good emblem for us too!
The bride's shoes sound lovely, do they have sequins and sparklies Zoe?
Karen. Getting back to important things like shoes! >:(
OMG, that video looked painful! :laugh: I have the vertical leap for it though. And the super long arms. Think I might need to find a dress that looks like the uniforms though, just so everyone knows I mean business. ;)
You DO know that song is going to be in my head when it happens, right?
Because the only alternative? Vinadaloo!!
Bucket! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLph6ePNkGQ#)
You know what?! This all just toooo much for this here old lady.
My imagination seems to fail me for right now.
Why? Not that I was asked being Best Man to my ex's wedding but just to be there, just to be present. I couldn't then, I guess I'd have a tough time now.
My ex is re-married since 28 years, mind you --- and I can sit on her bed (her in it) and watch TV without ANY sexual innuendo/thoughts just kindness and being friends. Same for her I'm sure.
Her 2nd husband finally after my 1 1/2 years of transitioning is genuinely VERY nice to me.
Always though of him as a nice man, choleric some times, but then lots of stressed males are just so also.
That is after some 30 years!!
Zoë what you have been offered is mind blowing, truly --- but it be just a few notches to far out for my own sanity.
I so HOPE and wish for you this to be one great event with loads of positives!!!!
Big hug honey,
Axelle
Lol at Vindaloo!
Well impressed by Zoe's story. Can't say that I'm on particularly great terms with most of my ex's, not even on talking terms with my very recent one... Am decent friends in a way with one girl who went Gay and good friends with the only man I ever went out with and with his lovely wife but they live abroad and we seldom meet.
Zoe,
If you can't take the mark, you can always go Barry Hall on their asses!! hehhee... No I didn't have any 'sports' training either, but in male mode you need to learn the sports lingo.
In Melbourne it's all that 'aerial ping-pong', down in Sydney it's the Rugby.
Both pointless if you ask me
Speaking of footy shorts, isn't that why most women like AFL? >:-)
I just like watching the men in the NRL hurting each other!! >:-)
Now back to the shoe question, will there be sequins or other sparklies?
Karen.
Oh, the shoes! ;D These are the shoes right here:
http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/badgley-mischka-salsa-pump/3184907?origin=category&resultback=441 (http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/badgley-mischka-salsa-pump/3184907?origin=category&resultback=441)
She also considered a similar style, but in silver:
http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/badgley-mischka-lacie-pump/3142654?origin=related-3142654-0-0-1-2 (http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/badgley-mischka-lacie-pump/3142654?origin=related-3142654-0-0-1-2)
Though the silver ones are absolutely gorgeous and don't shout "WEDDING!" in the way that the white ones do, I talked her into the white ones. The only other silver that she's going to be wearing is a bracelet and and a silver leafy headband. Having white shoes with the silvery decoration on the front was far more balancing, considering she's also wearing a white dress and her mother-in-law's pearls. If she wore the all-silver shoes, all eyes would go straight to the shoes because they'd stand out more than anything!
So while silver was more practical, I couldn't let her do it. :laugh:
Both gorgeous but yes the white ones. They look comfy too.
Those are cute shoes
She says pullin on her boots
Both gorgeous, but you are right the white with silver decoration will look much better. Good thing they don't come in my size or the Credit Card would get a workout.
Monday I wrote my ex one of those letters you never intend to post to give final closure to things. I read it to my therapist in a phone consultation, and she said it was really good and I should send it. I gave her a rundown on what has been happening with my transition and other things since we separated, and told her I bear her no ill-will, as G***** was a different person, and I am Karen now. I did say I would love to catch up with her and her partner for coffee and a chat next time I am in town.
I have no idea whether I will get a reply, or if she will want to meet, but going on how she was when I moved away, I am hopeful we can be friends of sorts finally. Even if just for the sake of our children who have had to deal with a hell of a lot.
Karen.
He shows your pic to his straight friends and says, "She used to be mine"