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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: Dominick_81 on September 01, 2011, 09:56:11 PM

Title: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: Dominick_81 on September 01, 2011, 09:56:11 PM
How do you go about getting your gender marker changed? Do you have to have surgery or can you just be on hormones or have your counselor or endo doctor write a letter? How does that work?
Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: Wesley_33 on September 01, 2011, 10:05:19 PM
Each state is different. A google search will usually answer most of whats needed. I know its been talked about on here before also.
Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: Dominick_81 on September 01, 2011, 10:14:11 PM
I've done a search but I can't find anything. I'm also wondering, do you have to have your name legally changed first before you get your gender maker changer or it doesn't matter?
Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: JohnAlex on September 01, 2011, 10:14:22 PM
Yeah, each state is different.  For my state (Washington), in order to change the gender marker on my driver's licence, all I have to do is get a therapist to fill out a form for the DMV confirming my change of gender for them.  simple.
Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: Adio on September 01, 2011, 10:38:54 PM
Depends on where you live and what you're trying to get your gender marker changed on (driver's license, birth certificate, social security, etc).

Check out (assuming your American, apologies if you aren't):

http://t-vox.org/index.php?title=US_Birth_Certificates (http://t-vox.org/index.php?title=US_Birth_Certificates)

http://transequality.org/Resources/DL/DL_policies.html (http://transequality.org/Resources/DL/DL_policies.html)

http://transequality.org/Issues/federal_documents.html (http://transequality.org/Issues/federal_documents.html)
Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: Dominick_81 on September 01, 2011, 10:46:55 PM
Thanks guys. Thanks Adio for the links.
Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: Renate on September 02, 2011, 06:45:53 AM
Well, "gender marker" is ambiguous. On which document do you mean?

In the US:
Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: AbraCadabra on September 02, 2011, 07:11:41 AM
Renate,

being so well informed would you know the current German rules for citizens living outside Germany??

Axelle
Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: Kentrie on September 02, 2011, 09:18:55 PM
What about West Virginia?
Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: Adio on September 02, 2011, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: Kentrie on September 02, 2011, 09:18:55 PM
What about West Virginia?

From the links I provided above:

West Virginia will change both name and sex, and will issue an amended birth certificate with the old name struck over and the new name and sex typed in the margin.  You will need an original or certified copy of the court order for your name change, and an original letter from your surgeon.

Any change of gender (on driver's license) requires a court order specifically indicating that the gender change is complete.

Social security is the same (for the most part) for everyone in the US.  It's too much for me to copy/paste.  See the third link in my post.
Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: Dominick_81 on September 02, 2011, 09:56:23 PM
Quote from: Renate on September 02, 2011, 06:45:53 AM
Well, "gender marker" is ambiguous. On which document do you mean?

In the US:
  • Driver's licence - depends on state, requires anywhere from therapist's letter to surgery
  • Social Security - requires a therapist's letter
  • Passport - requires a therapist's letter
  • Birth certificate - depends on birth state, either impossible or requires surgery
  • School records - depends on school, anywhere from request to requires birth certificate

All except for school records, birth certificate, and passport. I just saw a video about a guy waiting to change his maker so he can get insurance to cover his hysterectomy. If your gender marker is changed to male insurance won't cover a hysterectomy. So I'm not sure what to do about that... I don't plan to get a hysto, but if it comes down to it that I absolute have too, I guess it's better to wait to changer my marker. Unless I can change my marker on everything else except my insurance for now and change my marker on my insurance later...?

Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: Renate on September 03, 2011, 06:24:55 AM
For German expatriates the court in Schöneberg is responsible.

Quote from: TSG, sect 2, para 2Ist der Antragsteller Deutscher und hat er im Geltungsbereich dieses Gesetzes weder Wohnsitz noch gewöhnlichen Aufenthalt, so ist das Amtsgericht Schöneberg in Berlin zuständig; es kann die Sache aus wichtigen Gründen an ein anderes Gericht abgeben; die Abgabeverfügung ist für dieses Gericht bindend.

Apparently your personal attendance is required.

Quote from: TSG, sect 4, para 2Das Gericht hört den Antragsteller persönlich an.

Full text of the Transsexuellengesetz (http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tsg/index.html).
Title: Re: How to get your gender maker changed?
Post by: AbraCadabra on September 03, 2011, 08:24:56 AM
Thanks Renate,
seems that has NOT been changed 1/2 year ago.

Flying to Berlin, stay in a Hotel, get 2 GP letters, get an judge's appointment, etc. etc. just to change my gender marker --- eh.
Cost more then SRS, I can just see it.

Vii will hav no agument wid sis jawohl!

Grrrr,
Axelle