Hi everyone,
The last few months i've found myself scrutinising virtually every aspects of other woman. Cant help myself looking at what colour lipstick, makeup and nail polish she uses aswell as clothes and hair and how they walk etc. Its like i'm fishing for ideas all the time. Anyone else have the same problem?
Love you all
Diane
All the time - last night I was looking at earings of a friend thinking I need a pair like that.
Alice
At first you do that, but then when you get comfortable with yourself, then you create a style of your own. You still look at the jewelry and other things, but not as intense.
Sheila
I used to... though not what they wore, but more how they moved, what they DID: how they'd tuck their hair behind one ear, touch one another on the arm when stressing a point, all these little things that would make me SO jealous for being locked out of that world, and that *experience* and way of relating to people and the world.
Now though... well, women don't particularly fascinate me like that anymore. Somewhere during this past year, the obsession just kinda melted away. It's almost sad in a way, like realizing the rock star you always idolized is just another person with problems like anyone else, lol.
Kate
I don't think this is just a TG thing...as a GG I do it all the time ;)
Well, I've found myself doing that a lot. I think if you worry about passing, it's a natural thing to do, for learning's sake. And it leads to being a bit jealous.
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Quote from: Kristi on February 19, 2007, 03:18:54 PM
Well, I've found myself doing that a lot. I think if you worry about passing, it's a natural thing to do, for learning's sake. And it leads to being a bit jealous.
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which leads me to a question that has been bothering me...are GG's resented at the same time they are admired?
I used to do it a lot more than I do now. I still do it though. It also gives me an excuse to "admire" them. :)
Quote from: togetherwecan on February 19, 2007, 03:55:04 PM
which leads me to a question that has been bothering me...are GG's resented at the same time they are admired?
I would say for most of them Yes.
Melissa
which leads me to a question that has been bothering me...are GG's resented at the same time they are admired?
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Honestly pre transition and de transition, and pretty much any time Im out of E yeah... I admire and resent at the same time... You feel as your literaly beeing ripped appart from the inside out and its not fun at all... Being as far along as I am, and so long as E dosnt run out I dont find myself resenting GG's anymore *shrugs* I guess you have to be comfortable (or mostly comfortable) in your own skin. :)
Hmmmm....resenting? For me that's just too strong of a word. Wishing I could BE them, sure. Wishing I could LOOK like them, yep. Wishing I could be SEEN by others in the same light as they, you bet. But for some reason I haven't found anything to resent.
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Quote from: Kristi on February 19, 2007, 05:32:54 PM
Hmmmm....resenting? For me that's just too strong of a word. Wishing I could BE them, sure. Wishing I could LOOK like them, yep. Wishing I could be SEEN by others in the same light as they, you bet. But for some reason I haven't found anything to resent.
It an unfair kind of resentment Kristi. Kind of just resenting them for having been lucky enough to be born into the the right body and life. Now that I'm fulltime, that resentment is not nearly what it used to be.
Melissa
Quote from: Melissa on February 19, 2007, 05:40:11 PM
It an unfair kind of resentment Kristi. Kind of just resenting them for having been lucky enough to be born into the the right body and life. Now that I'm fulltime, that resentment is not nearly what it used to be.
Melissa
Yeah I understand that feeling. I think I would pick the word "envy" instead.
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I don't resent anyone. This is life and it happens. Oh, I wish I didn't have to go through all the hell that I went through and that I could have grown up and socialized like a GG. It didn't happen, oh well, life goes on. I'm not going to resent anyone for it. I will do the best I can. I didn't even get to socialize as a boy as I didnt like what they did. I tried, but it didn't work for me as I was an outcast from both sides. I feel like that I didn't get that kind of socialization process and that is why I'm a loner.
Sheila
I think when you begin to go full time you or I looked for information and I know I found myself saying that I wish I looked like this or like that.
But now I still look but it is out of curiosity, I'm interested in what other women are wearing, what looks good and what doesn't.
I am glad that I know longer envy even the very beautiful women I see. I know they were born female and if i could change everything by being them instead of me to become GG,,, I would not!
Kristina
I think what gets me most is little girls. Adult women someday I will have a life functionally similar so while I watch and note characteristics its not a big deal. But seeing a little girl having the childhood I didn't have and can never have can be rough. I wouldn't say I resent them but it's hard on my emotions.
Quote from: Nikki_W on February 19, 2007, 11:02:58 PM
I think what gets me most is little girls. Adult women someday I will have a life functionally similar so while I watch and note characteristics its not a big deal. But seeing a little girl having the childhood I didn't have and can never have can be rough. I wouldn't say I resent them but it's hard on my emotions.
Oh yes, that's the one that threatens to finish me off. I try to not think about it, but it's there.. lurking in the shadows. I just TRY to keep looking ahead, but... but... DARN it already :(
Kate
Quote from: Kate on February 19, 2007, 11:08:41 PM
Quote from: Nikki_W on February 19, 2007, 11:02:58 PM
I think what gets me most is little girls. Adult women someday I will have a life functionally similar so while I watch and note characteristics its not a big deal. But seeing a little girl having the childhood I didn't have and can never have can be rough. I wouldn't say I resent them but it's hard on my emotions.
Oh yes, that's the one that threatens to finish me off. I try to not think about it, but it's there.. lurking in the shadows. I just TRY to keep looking ahead, but... but... DARN it already :(
Kate
Nothing is going to finish of our Kate - she is strong.
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Alice
Quote from: Kate on February 19, 2007, 11:08:41 PM
Oh yes, that's the one that threatens to finish me off. I try to not think about it, but it's there.. lurking in the shadows. I just TRY to keep looking ahead, but... but... DARN it already :(
I bet I know what Kate would like for a present. ;)
Melissa
I dont resent GG's at all, i do admire them, but we are TG's and i think being different is very special. I like the thought of moulding myself. The great thing about being TG is we get a second chance in life where as others dont.
Diane
Yep... I do it all the time.
Looking at clothes, hand bags , Shoes, hair etc... yer need to check out the opposition!
I have also found myself looking at guys much more, even down to the crutch bulges (Hmmmm)
I now can recall every minute detail of what they where wearing, any jewellery they had and if they hadnice muscles...
Buffy
Quote from: Diane_2be on February 19, 2007, 02:32:25 PM
Hi everyone,
The last few months i've found myself scrutinising virtually every aspects of other woman. Cant help myself looking at what colour lipstick, makeup and nail polish she uses aswell as clothes and hair and how they walk etc. Its like i'm fishing for ideas all the time. Anyone else have the same problem?
Love you all
Diane
It isn't a problem, hon. It's an educational endeavor.
I do this, too. One learns a great deal from simple observation.
I more just feel envy, wishing I could feel what they feel, and have even half the femininity in body that they do.
All of us do that. You have to. Little girls have had the, "act like a lady" thing drilled into their heads from the start. Boys on the other hand were told to play in the dirt "be a boy" rough house.
I still say the best learning tools we have are to associate ourselves with GG's, women.
I was off most of last week in Vegas. My friend and I went together and meet up with some other girl friends there. I was the only MTF. When we walked the strip everyone was scrutnised. This is how we learn. We did not have a mom, or peers telling us how to act as a girl.
Before long all of will become a natural.
Deb
it would be awesome if my mom would teach me some that stuff.....if my parents will even talk to me when i tell them
At least you have a mom to talk to. Mine use to tell me all the time when I was young I should have been a girl since I had such long eye lashes. I knew I should have been a little girl. If my mom was still alive I hope she would be proud to have me as her daughter. At a very early age like around 6 or so I was playing and dressing up as a little girl with the neighbor girl. From my teens and up I have always thought I was trapped. I just did not know how to get myself un-trapped. I have scrutinised women and everything they do for so long now.
Keep on scrutinising girls. That is how we can learn.
Deb
I do the same thing, it's like women have become our role models more now than ever before.
Funny thing iS i thorght it was a natural thing and everyone did it. I talk about styles 4 body certain bodyshapes with t wife all t time. I hadent put any more thorght into it than that
Oh God, I'm really bad about that! I'll actually give little names to women that I don't know well based on their appearance. It's really, really, horrible, but really, really, addictive. I admit I'm a terrible person for it, but the worst part is that if I'm with even one other girl, we'll point these women out to each other for sport. I'll be like "Hey, Jocelyn...check out Saggy McBoob over there! I mean, it's called underwire, honey!" and we giggle and were so horrible. And it's not like I don't have any flaws that I have room to pick on someone else (I could fill pages with my imperfections, real or perceived, as a matter of fact). It's just one of those things, I guess!
Quote from: angelsgirl on March 20, 2007, 01:59:39 PM
Oh God, I'm really bad about that! I'll actually give little names to women that I don't know well based on their appearance. It's really, really, horrible, but really, really, addictive. I admit I'm a terrible person for it, but the worst part is that if I'm with even one other girl, we'll point these women out to each other for sport. I'll be like "Hey, Jocelyn...check out Saggy McBoob over there! I mean, it's called underwire, honey!" and we giggle and were so horrible..
LOL, oh thats SO bad, lol... So if I catch some girls laughing and pointing at me, it doesn't mean I've been read, it means I'm just one of the girls???
Kate
It's extremely possible, but I don't know if that's a good thing. >:D