Is it just me or do people seem to not make such a big deal over it if it's said as "oh they got a sex change" vs "they're transgendered". I always noticed that people react differently to those. I mean, I don't get it. They are similar so why do people act like one is not a big deal as te other? That's just what I've noticed. Opinions?
EDIT: I mean I noticed that people make more of a deal if it's said "they are transgendered".
I've noticed that anything containing the words "sex change" gets giggles, some confusion and no seriousness. But that's probably due to where I live and what age group I'm usually around.
With "they are transgendered" there's some confusion and the immediate question of sexual orientation, but overall meh.
With "they are transsexual" oh no, you don't want to say that. Somehow, that's an extremist drag queen/king thing, and the reaction is general disgust, but some occasional confusion.
Personally, I don't see getting a sex change as being so incredibly similar to being transgendered. I mean, ->-bleeped-<- is an umbrella term that covers many other things besides transsexuals, and not all transsexuals get bottom surgery, which is what people think of when they hear "sex change." (I'm going based on the assumption that a "sex change" is what you have to do to get your gender marker changed, which for FtMs is usually top surgery) Of course, all this is just what I've been taught applied to my personal experience.
Quote from: Vincent E.S. on September 19, 2011, 09:06:18 PM
I've noticed that anything containing the words "sex change" gets giggles, some confusion and no seriousness. But that's probably due to where I live and what age group I'm usually around.
With "they are transgendered" there's some confusion and the immediate question of sexual orientation, but overall meh.
With "they are transsexual" oh no, you don't want to say that. Somehow, that's an extremist drag queen/king thing, and the reaction is general disgust, but some occasional confusion.
Personally, I don't see getting a sex change as being so incredibly similar to being transgendered. I mean, ->-bleeped-<- is an umbrella term that covers many other things besides transsexuals, and not all transsexuals get bottom surgery, which is what people think of when they hear "sex change." (I'm going based on the assumption that a "sex change" is what you have to do to get your gender marker changed, which for FtMs is usually top surgery) Of course, all this is just what I've been taught applied to my personal experience.
I guess it depends more on the individual person.
Quote from: Josh T on September 19, 2011, 09:39:06 PM
I guess it depends more on the individual person.
Yeah, and also probably where you live plays a part in it, since different regions tend to have different lingo. :)
I always think it's interesting to hear how people in one region react to a word differently than somewhere else.
I don't identify as trans, to be honest. I'm a woman with a defect that (badly) needs to be removed. Trans is merely the journey I traveled to find peace with my body, peace that will come with an operation. Yes, that operation will change my biological sex. It's a sex change, no matter what words are used to pretty it up.
When my mom's cousin, a nun who joined the convent at 17 and was a mother superior under John Paul II, asked me in July "are you getting a sex change??" I smiled and proudly said "Yes, I am!" ;D Did I need to use that as a teaching moment about political correctness? About how we now call it SRS or GRS or GCS or OMGWTFYTAYUW*? No! I needed to bond with a loving family member as my new self. People are too uptight nowadays.
* OMG WTF You Talking About, You Unreconstructed Whelp?
this is definitely the
wrong place to ask about definitions. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cosgan.de%2Fimages%2Fsmilie%2Fkonfus%2Fa050.gif&hash=3aef94fddedef29723ac7cdc7d7a7cef91a72f6d)
There is however a list of terms as defined for use on this site:
Standard Terms and Definitions on Susan's Place (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,54369.0.html)Quote from: Zoë Natasha on September 20, 2011, 10:47:35 PM* OMG WTF You Talking About, You Unreconstructed Whelp?
lol Lots of hugs for Zoë. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cosgan.de%2Fimages%2Fsmilie%2Fliebe%2Fa055.gif&hash=09c31e3d3e9f03f2ca1e44008cb973d551e61797) Nobody better say that to you while I'm around >:(
Quote from: Vincent E.S. on September 20, 2011, 10:34:23 PM
Yeah, and also probably where you live plays a part in it, since different regions tend to have different lingo. :)
I always think it's interesting to hear how people in one region react to a word differently than somewhere else.
That too
Quote from: Zoë Natasha on September 20, 2011, 10:47:35 PM
I don't identify as trans, to be honest. I'm a woman with a defect that (badly) needs to be removed. Trans is merely the journey I traveled to find peace with my body, peace that will come with an operation. Yes, that operation will change my biological sex. It's a sex change, no matter what words are used to pretty it up.
When my mom's cousin, a nun who joined the convent at 17 and was a mother superior under John Paul II, asked me in July "are you getting a sex change??" I smiled and proudly said "Yes, I am!" ;D Did I need to use that as a teaching moment about political correctness? About how we now call it SRS or GRS or GCS or OMGWTFYTAYUW*? No! I needed to bond with a loving family member as my new self. People are too uptight nowadays.
* OMG WTF You Talking About, You Unreconstructed Whelp?
This :)
Re: Being trans vs getting a sex change
Personally don't see that as an either or. Transgender for me is a political position, whether I happen to be a woman, a man or whatever has little to do with that for me.
It is possible for a reason to desire sex change without him/her being a transgendered, isn't it?