so what do you guys think about key hole.
I got it recomended from my doctor saying he could make it and if I where unsatified i could get another surgery done afterward to cover it up. thats what he recomend me but I also got it recomended Not to make key hole.
my size are somehow of a small B or something around that, and im on T.
Quote from: Kvall on September 23, 2011, 10:28:34 PM
Can you clarify--did one doctor recommend you get keyhole, and another recommend that you don't?
Keyhole is fine if you're small and your chest doesn't sag much (preferably at all), but if you go too far outside of the proper range, you start to see a lot of contouring issues that could be avoided with double incision.
all in details this is my situation;
I went for a doctor in my country, here its very few doctors who even make sex chance surgery so I thought about going to german insteed which will be 8, hours one way, and 8 hours the other way, but sure thats a LONG trip, and it pretty messy with money and time, and while im also at school and shoudlnt take too much free.
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before him I had been out to 2 other places, but the first places is very strick about getting surgery and dosent make them often enought, and the other hospital had only tried it 1 a time and the only thing they could do where to compare me to a cancer patient which im not. (so nothing there for me) so it where cool when my gyneacologist advised me to go somewhere where they both had done it a couple of times before and where there where no strick rules about getting permission other than you should pay for it, and that you wanted it.
so I went . I had a guy who around my age who made it there and it looks great so I was pretty eciting.
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so I got over to talk to the doctor and so on and showed him my cheast, and he said he could make a key-hole since my cheast where small, and so on, and I told him I where on a school who has alot of phycial education and so on, and he said if I worked out then it could turn out pretty well and if I didnt get satified then I could get another surgery cutting around my nipples and down my cheast taking of some skin. he said it would be simple but compared to the other it would leave me scars wich key hole alone wouldnt.
its cheap, closeby (compared to going to another country) and simple, and if what he said is true then I got a good risk that it would look and that I already could start training around 3 week.
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so thats all great but now I dont know anymore, I already had my doubts about key-hole I thought it wasnt a posibilaty for me, I know I got told I dont have a large cheast I got told it to be a small b before T, and T have also helped as I noticed, but I always expected to get another kind of surgey so I havent been looking into it so much before now.
anyway I told the good news to the person who had surgery but he didnt had key hole, he said he got told the same as me but he thought the result where horrible and he wouldnt recomend me doing it. I asked him what he meant by that if he could show me some pictures of what he where thinking about but he went ofline as I where chatting with him on facebook.
it kinda got me worried also because I didnt saw any pictures of the doctor and so on, I saw some pictures on transbucket just to check out, but I didnt find key hole surgery to be bad, some yes, but most of like 95% where result I would feel satified with.
its not that I mind scars that much, a little scar like my friend did because he refused to do key hole dosent bother me so much, but I didnt felt the pictures I saw where bad.
again I have no idea how it is with this doctor I got, on my country,
my country is messed up its very hard to get surgery and homones unless you know the right place to go and there not much information.
one of my friend said I should go to german insteed because there wellknowed for being better at these stuff,
and I also think its would be more easy to find picture in german.
but right now I feel very unsure, also the fact I told him we got alot of PE on my school, well its true but the fact is I didnt join to work out but to study Japanese, so im on a languarge team I dont know if he expected me to work out alot because I dont but sure I will try to train if he says thats best for my cheast.
im just very confussed right now, I do want the best result and a result im satified with as I havent been satified with my cheast since I where a child, but im really nervous what I should do,
it confusse me how he said the results of keyhole are horrible, I dont know if he mean him or key hole in general?
and I wonder if I should go to german insteed, but it would be a long trip and I would have to bring up the dicussion again about going to a forregian country, My parrents dont want me to do so it would in ALL kind of ways be more easy to do it here. but I dont know im just so confussed right now,
also these bad results I saw on keyhole, I dont know in which kind of situations or how much risk there are,
I can guess some are from larger cheast if your neither a A or B, or if your overweight, and im neither,
but I wonder if lose skin also got something to say because I do feel my skin is kinda lose already?
Either kind of surgery has mixed results. Some of those pix on transbucket where the guy started with a B are pretty amazing to me.
I had keyhole. Was an A size, but have older skin than a lot of guys on here.
My results are better than some, but not as good as others. Standing up straight looks pretty good. But loose when I bend over.
That keeps me from being 100% happy, but is only an issue when shirtless. With a shirt on, my chest looks totally male, and that makes me very happy.
Whichever surgery you have, be careful not to do anything strenuous too soon. Let it heal, or it may not heal properly.
Good luck.
Hi Natkat...I believe we've spoken on a German FTM forum so I just wanted to suggest you click through their gallery there, because there's usually before and after pictures, so you can look for your chest size and see what results to expect.
I had keyhole and chose an experienced surgeon over one that only does like 5-10 FTM mastectomies a year, and I'm glad I did because my results turned out much better than any of those from the less experienced doctor. She had also recommended a two-step surgery though i was only an A cup and only needed one surgery with the more experienced doctor. i had to travel farther to get there, but it was well worth it.
If you do get keyhole, make sure to tell them to resize your areolas and nipples, if you would like that done.
Also, if you do get keyhole, I would very much recommend that you go with an experienced surgeon. Keyhole is tricky and you want to make sure the surgeon has it all figured out. If he/she is inexperienced you might end up with a lot of loose skin or the liposuction might leave you with an uneven chest.
thanks for your replys, there been a little opdate in my fact now it pretty much 100% im going to german for my surgery since there been some political troubles in my countrys of an ftm doing top surgery and stuff.
so im going to drive with my dad for 11 hours to dr Kampmann, I know a couple of people doing it there and it also been the most closeby place to find outside my country, we are going to talk to him and see what he will recomend for me,
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emil; I been on the ftm portal in german, yes,
I checked alittle out there gallari but im going to do so again, also I got told they got pictures at his place, the last hospital I went to there wasnt any pictures which made me kinda disapointed.
I want top surgery and I somehow think I can make it done, however I am scared if my skin will turn out too lose, and it kinda what I fear most,
I would rather have some simple scars then, but well let see what the doctor will say.