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Title: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Jen-Jen on September 26, 2011, 04:12:21 AM
Do you believe in Love?  True love? Like fairytale happily ever after love?
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Rebekah with a K-A-H on September 26, 2011, 04:20:38 AM
Nope.  It's a bunch of neurons firing at once, and means nothing more than that.

I'd like to find someone to spend the rest of my life with someday, but I wouldn't characterize it as true love.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: mimpi on September 26, 2011, 05:57:42 AM
Do you believe in Love?

Head says no, heart says yes.

Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: justmeinoz on September 26, 2011, 05:59:07 AM
Yes.  To make it last you both have to work at it though.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: caitlin_adams on September 26, 2011, 06:04:34 AM
Yes, absolutely. My partner of almost six years left me around six months ago in pretty brutal circumstances, I truly loved her and I believe it's possible that two people can love each other.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Kim 526 on September 26, 2011, 06:16:19 AM
I most definitely believe in true love. My ex- and I broke up in 1999. Here it is 2011, we share the same home with our children and the dog. We are not lovers (which breaks my heart every day) but at least I am in her midst. If this is the only way I can be with her, in her presence, then I guess it's that's the way it's got to be. But in spite of everything I have never stopped loving her with all my heart. Wish, wish, wish we could be lovers again. Sigh.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: JenJen2011 on September 26, 2011, 08:53:21 AM
Yes. I'm living it 5 years and strong!
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Post by: Lily on September 26, 2011, 12:10:41 PM
Love is the only thing of meaning to me. It is my one refuge, and my one salvation from the nightmares of this world.

Love is why I live, and it is a joyful life while it lasts.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Sarah Louise on September 26, 2011, 12:15:56 PM
Love, even fairytale love has its ups and downs.  I will be celebrating my 45th anniversary next month.  There have been good times, very good times, average times and some bad, very bad times.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: eli77 on September 26, 2011, 01:09:53 PM
Do you believe in Love?

Yes.

True love? Like fairytale happily ever after love?

Not really. Or least not for me. Love is transient in my experience.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on September 26, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
Do you believe in life after love
I can feel something inside me say
I really don't think you're strong enough now,
Do you believe in life after love
I can feel something inside me say
I really don't think you're strong enough now
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Forever21Chic on September 26, 2011, 04:11:32 PM
Quote from: Jen-Jen on September 26, 2011, 04:12:21 AM
Do you believe in Love?  True love? Like fairytale happily ever after love?


   *sings* Do you believe in magic in a young girls heart! ....sorry i'm being really random today cuz i'm in such a good mood. Yeah i do, i just met someone recently that makes me smile like crazy & my face hurts from smiling so much! <3 
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Tamaki on September 26, 2011, 06:13:10 PM
Quote from: Forever21Chic on September 26, 2011, 04:11:32 PM

   *sings* Do you believe in magic in a young girls heart!

My wife and I are sitting here singing it too!


Yes I do believe in that kind of love but the reality is that it's a lot of work. Sharing your life is not always easy and it takes commitment to see it through the tough times.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Amazon D on September 26, 2011, 06:20:36 PM
Yes i believe in love but for many yrs i have never found that love until i relaized God is love and love is God so i make a resting place for God/Love in my heart.

as for people i have been hurt time and time after time after time


but i would love to know true love with a human who loves me back like i have given my love in the past

However, it seems i will be single my whole life and yet i have Gods love which makes life worth living
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Jen-Jen on September 26, 2011, 07:43:59 PM
I believe in love, true love! I love one person she is everything to me my world, my moon, my stars, my every breath! I have loved her almost 14yrs now.  like happily ever after love? Yes I believe in that as well. I was living it for most of my life! I cant imagine my life without her, I feel there is no me with out her,  but unfortunatly I found out she doesnt feel the same way, and my happily ever after might be coming to an end. 

Quote from: caitlin_adams on September 26, 2011, 06:04:34 AM
Yes, absolutely. My partner of almost six years left me around six months ago in pretty brutal circumstances, I truly loved her and I believe it's possible that two people can love each other.

I feel you and i am sorry. I am going through some brutal stuff with her right now.

Quote from: Kim 526 on September 26, 2011, 06:16:19 AM
I most definitely believe in true love. My ex- and I broke up in 1999. Here it is 2011, we share the same home with our children and the dog. We are not lovers (which breaks my heart every day) but at least I am in her midst. If this is the only way I can be with her, in her presence, then I guess it's that's the way it's got to be. But in spite of everything I have never stopped loving her with all my heart. Wish, wish, wish we could be lovers again. Sigh.

It breaks my heart as well to hear this, your love for her is true! So true that you are willing to not be lovers just  to be in her presence and near her, thats beautiful, thats true love! 


Quote from: JenJen2011 on September 26, 2011, 08:53:21 AM
Yes. I'm living it 5 years and strong!
Thats wonderful!  I love to hear about people making it happen! I am so happy for you, I wish you the best in your happily ever after!


Quote from: Lily on September 26, 2011, 12:10:41 PM
Love is the only thing of meaning to me. It is my one refuge, and my one salvation from the nightmares of this world.

Love is why I live, and it is a joyful life while it lasts.
I completely agree with you 100% its like you read my mind! I am glad i am not the only one that feels this way!


Quote from: Sarah Louise on September 26, 2011, 12:15:56 PM
Love, even fairytale love has its ups and downs.  I will be celebrating my 45th anniversary next month.  There have been good times, very good times, average times and some bad, very bad times.
Thank you for your reply  I am realizing that now, I am going through some really bad times, your post gives me hope! thank you!


Quote from: Forever21Chic on September 26, 2011, 04:11:32 PM

   *sings* Do you believe in magic in a young girls heart! ....sorry i'm being really random today cuz i'm in such a good mood. Yeah i do, i just met someone recently that makes me smile like crazy & my face hurts from smiling so much! <3
I love that song! being random is good! Your reply brought a smile to my face, thank you I needed that! I am happy for you, that you have found someone that makes you feel that way! I know the feeling, I miss it so much!


Quote from: Hannah_Irene on September 26, 2011, 06:13:10 PM
My wife and I are sitting here singing it too!


Yes I do believe in that kind of love but the reality is that it's a lot of work. Sharing your life is not always easy and it takes commitment to see it through the tough times.
yes its not easy, i have learned that through the years,  but its alot harder when its only one having the commitment and one causing the problems, yet saying she doesnt mean to.



Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: VeryGnawty on September 26, 2011, 09:24:00 PM
Quote from: justmeinoz on September 26, 2011, 05:59:07 AM
Yes.  To make it last you both have to work at it though.

Unfortunately, I have nothing to say because you just said everything there is to say.

Your thirteen words have destroyed my overly verbose and grand response.  Congratulations.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Janet_Girl on September 26, 2011, 09:56:20 PM
I thought so at one time, but now I am not sure.  Three divorces later and I am pretty jaded.  So in humans I don't believe so anymore.  If you do find that one special person, you both have to work at being in love with each other, not just love one another.

But one thing I do know is that true love does exist and your true love has four legs.  Animals give unconditional love, and all you need to to is open your heart to it.  Never yell at them,never hurt them, always love and care for them.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Cadence Jean on September 26, 2011, 10:17:35 PM
I know I can feel it.  I know I yearn for it.  It takes effort from both parties, lots and lots of open upfront communication, and patience, in order to make it last happily ever after.  But it's all worth it if that other person is investing the same in you.

Le sigh...so miss it.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: ByeBye on September 26, 2011, 10:33:56 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Ellie on September 26, 2011, 11:21:27 PM
I do, but it always ended up bad for me
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: ZeldaHeart on September 27, 2011, 01:44:53 PM
Love does exist, even if it's just a chemical thing going on in our brains.  We all feel that love.  Interpersonal love is such a strong thing.  The love for your children, your brother or sister, parents, and close friends.  I had a friend and we both cared for each others' well being so much that it was bordering a romantic relationship, but it never did.  It was based on love.

True love in a totally romantic way?  Yes!  It just takes time to meet someone who you'll end up loving and they'll end up loving you in that way.  It seems to happen to almost everyone, though.  It's like everyone has a destined soul mate in this world, but we just have to find them.  Have hope for love, Jen-Jen. 
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Karlee on September 27, 2011, 04:16:26 PM
I want to believe. It's hard right now, love is hanging by a thread. :'(

Feels like my whole life is falling apart. But hopefully, just maybe, love will conquer.

Love,
Karlee.x
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Jen-Jen on September 28, 2011, 07:16:07 AM
Quote from: ZeldaHeart on September 27, 2011, 01:44:53 PM
Love does exist, even if it's just a chemical thing going on in our brains.  We all feel that love.  Interpersonal love is such a strong thing.  The love for your children, your brother or sister, parents, and close friends.  I had a friend and we both cared for each others' well being so much that it was bordering a romantic relationship, but it never did.  It was based on love.

True love in a totally romantic way?  Yes!  It just takes time to meet someone who you'll end up loving and they'll end up loving you in that way.  It seems to happen to almost everyone, though.  It's like everyone has a destined soul mate in this world, but we just have to find them.  Have hope for love, Jen-Jen.
True so true!  Thank you zeldaheart I couldn't have said it better! Love does exist and is such a strong thing , the love I feel for her makes me feel like I'm going to explode! But my love for her is way diffrent than my love for family and friends, its way more! I do believe in soul mates I believe she is mine. I've had hope for love but its been 14 yrs you  would think she would get it by now! Its just hard you know!
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Jen-Jen on September 28, 2011, 07:22:19 AM
Quote from: Karlee on September 27, 2011, 04:16:26 PM
I want to believe. It's hard right now, love is hanging by a thread. :'(

Feels like my whole life is falling apart. But hopefully, just maybe, love will conquer.

Love,
Karlee.x
I'm in the same boat with you! Its hard to believe and see it when your love is hanging by a thread! I too feel like my whole life is falling apart! Mine feels like I am on a cliff watching a whole major city(my life) in flames burning! There's nothing I can do but watch, there is not enough resources to put it out! Everything I know and have worked for is burning!
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Jen-Jen on October 25, 2011, 08:28:11 AM
Wow that's it?  no one else believes in love?
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Post by: stldrmgrl on October 25, 2011, 08:46:15 AM
I absolutely believe in true love.  It may not be the first person you meet, it may not be the second or third - but somewhere, sometime I believe we all will meet our soul mate and be destined for true love.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: amanda barber on October 25, 2011, 11:28:25 AM
Yes I believe in love, but its hard to find and takes work.
I love my man, he loves me.
Somehow 20 years ago I won the man lottery.  ;D

Believe in fairytale love? No. Some days prince charming royally pisses me off. He's not always thrilled with my evil witch days either.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Lily on October 25, 2011, 12:42:35 PM
Love for me, right now, is about patience and hope. That hope is all that's keeping me going right now.

And who cares if it's just "a bunch of neurons?" Discovering how something works doesn't suddenly make it not real or not exist.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Butterflyhugs on October 25, 2011, 12:53:00 PM
I believe in love. As was previously stated, even if its a chemical reaction in the brain, it's still a reality that people experience.

That being said, I don't think there's really such a thing as "unconditional love." If someone habitually treats me like ->-bleeped-<- even if I love them, I'm sure my feelings would change over time. 
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on October 25, 2011, 02:11:10 PM
To quote Dan Savage, "There is not true love, just people you settle for"
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: eli77 on October 25, 2011, 03:46:19 PM
Quote from: Butterflyhugs on October 25, 2011, 12:53:00 PM
If someone habitually treats me like ->-bleeped-<- even if I love them, I'm sure my feelings would change over time.

You would think so wouldn't you? Unfortunately, it's more complicated in practice. I still love my ex, for all she treated me like ->-bleeped-<-. At least I eventually grew enough sense to walk away. When they say love isn't enough, they really aren't kidding.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Akashiya Moka on October 25, 2011, 07:56:28 PM
I believe in True Love; I blame Disney movies. :)
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Jamie Nicole on October 25, 2011, 11:44:32 PM
love is a product of the loins and when it comes to that, I dont wanna be made love to, I wanna be F***'d lol
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Post by: Mahsa Tezani on October 25, 2011, 11:50:55 PM
Quote from: Akashiya Moka on October 25, 2011, 07:56:28 PM
I believe in True Love; I blame Disney movies. :)

before or after Hannah Montana?
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Post by: Glenn on October 25, 2011, 11:57:17 PM
Come on girls, Do you believe in love? 'Cause I got something to say about it and it goes something like this!

Don't go for second best baby
Put your love to the test
You know, you know, you've got to
Make him express how he feels
And maybe then you'll know your love is real

Seriously I believe in love and I will fight for it as long as I live and breath.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Akashiya Moka on October 26, 2011, 12:35:33 AM
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 25, 2011, 11:50:55 PM
before or after Hannah Montana?

Lol! Touché.

~Would you hate me if I told you I had some of her songs on my iPod? :icon_geekdance:
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Post by: Mahsa Tezani on October 26, 2011, 12:36:43 AM
Quote from: Akashiya Moka on October 26, 2011, 12:35:33 AM
Lol! Touché.

~Would you hate me if I told you I had some of her songs on my iPod? :icon_geekdance:

Being superficial, I have plenty of music on my ipod which lacks substance. I don't like indie rock or any of that whiny stuff. i like metal, pop and dance.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Forever21Chic on October 26, 2011, 12:48:52 AM

   I believe in love, i also believe in the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, the Easter bunny, leprechauns, and unicorns!   ;D
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Post by: Mahsa Tezani on October 26, 2011, 12:58:48 AM
Quote from: Rukia87xo on October 26, 2011, 12:48:52 AM
   I believe in love, i also believe in the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, the Easter bunny, leprechauns, and unicorns!   ;D

A unicorn flies through rainbow butt propulsion!
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Post by: Akashiya Moka on October 26, 2011, 01:04:24 AM
Quote from: Rukia87xo on October 26, 2011, 12:48:52 AM
   I believe in love, i also believe in the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, the Easter bunny, leprechauns, and unicorns!   ;D

:P You left out someone, Rukia:

Jesus vs. Cyclops (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsQ5MaPtnxE#)
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: AbraCadabra on October 26, 2011, 10:34:24 AM
No need to "believe" in love - love is, as much as life is.

Quite simple,
Axelle
PS: Some may believe in hate, that's just the flipside of love...
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Forever21Chic on October 26, 2011, 11:22:29 AM
Quote from: Akashiya Moka on October 26, 2011, 01:04:24 AM
:P You left out someone, Rukia:



  Lol no i don't believe in Jesus, sorry. I'm practicing Buddhism atm, or did you mean the cyclops?  ???
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Akashiya Moka on October 27, 2011, 12:45:05 AM
^Neither do I, lol. :P

Any interest in Shintoism and/or Taoism? I've always found them to be particularly beautiful religions.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Jen-Jen on October 27, 2011, 02:22:24 AM
Please stay on subject,  this post is about love not religion.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: V M on October 27, 2011, 02:57:10 AM
Yes, there are many folks and various things I love about this world  :)  Not because of religion or someone told me I should, that doesn't dictate how I feel... Not because I plan to marry anyone or take part in some kind of intimate relationship, though I wouldn't rule that out

It is the way I feel, I love these people and places and things because that is the feeling that comes from inside me
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: SandraJane on October 27, 2011, 02:57:44 AM
Talk about pessimists...either one hasn't been loved or has been hurt by what seemed like Love, and that's without putting Religion into the mix.

Which Disney movies? :laugh:
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Post by: Valeriedoeswcs on October 27, 2011, 05:28:24 AM
Quote from: Jen-Jen on September 26, 2011, 04:12:21 AM
Do you believe in Love?  True love? Like fairytale happily ever after love?

Yes, I do. It's alive in my heart, my hopes and my dreams.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Akashiya Moka on October 27, 2011, 05:40:41 AM
Quote from: SandraJane on October 27, 2011, 02:57:44 AM
Talk about pessimists...either one hasn't been loved or has been hurt by what seemed like Love, and that's without putting Religion into the mix.

Which Disney movies? :laugh:

If I answer I'll get in trouble. :P ~But on the subject of True Love, this is perhaps the greatest poem ever written:

If thou must love me, let it be for nought
Except for love's sake only. Do not say
'I love her for her smile--her look--her way
Of speaking gently,--for a trick of thought
That falls in well with mine, and certes brought
A sense of pleasant ease on such a day
For these things in themselves, Beloved, may
Be changed, or change for thee,--and love, so wrought,
May be unwrought so. Neither love me for
Thine own dear pity's wiping my cheeks dry,
A creature might forget to weep, who bore
Thy comfort long, and lose thy love, thereby!
But love me for love's sake, that evermore
Thou mayst love on, through love's eternity.

Sonnet XIV ~ Elizabeth Barrett Browning
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Jen-Jen on October 27, 2011, 07:06:52 AM
Quote from: Akashiya Moka on October 25, 2011, 07:56:28 PM
I believe in True Love; I blame Disney movies. :)
iMe too! I grew up on them! I Still like them though! Maybe they are the cause, I dunno?
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Chloe on October 27, 2011, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: Kim 526 on September 26, 2011, 06:16:19 AM
I most definitely believe in true love. My ex- and I broke up in 1999. Here it is 2011, we share the same home with our children and the dog. We are not lovers (which breaks my heart every day) . . .  Sigh.

Yuck! I suppose i share your PAIN!

After three divorce filings and nine years later the last one was the charm! Ex is still STALKING me with kids and I FED UP! Just goes to show how both genders can be, are as equally WACKED as the next.  lol Am starting to think she wasn't LYING when she told the judge "i want this divorce", telling me otherwise yet having little other choice. He treated it as a "no-fault", i got the house with no alimony to pay indeed what a thrall, . . .

And to end this 'lil ditty kid's want me more than her for sure,
which means once I get them don't pay her at all!
Not trying to generate "sympathy", 'cause she's had enough of her share,
What goes around comes around and in the meantime we can only do ones best,

Perhaps Love Will Blossum Once Again when MARRIAGE is finally put to rest!

Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: cynthialee on October 27, 2011, 10:43:28 AM
Yes I believe in love.

With all my heart and soul.

I am married to the love of my life. The most wonderful gift to me the universe could have ever cooked up.
We compliment eachother in nearly every way.


It was not love at first sight though. Far from it.

When I first met Sevan I was living as a man  ::) and ze was a semi butch lesbian. Ze was married to a slob of a woman who just happened to be one of my friends.
When Sevan met me...ze did not like me. I was a man, I was a pot smoker, and I took up all of hir wifes time hanging out getting stoned and goofing off.
I saw Sevan as a classic man hateing dyke and I was convnced that I had to prove to hir that not all men were evil.

One day Sevans wife wanted to come to my place so she could hook hir PS2 up to the big TV in my living room so she could game, and she had coerced Sevan into sharing a bottle of Crown Royal hir father had given hir for christmass. Sevan did not want to share that whiskey with me but hir wife pretty much threw a fit and made Sevan hang out with me. (unknown to me at the time of course...)
Anyways....Over that pint of Crown we really bonded. Sevan realized that I was actually not the bad person ze had cooked up in hir imagination and ze softened up to me.
I already had made it my mission to crack hir shell and get hir to be my friend because it was complicating my friendship with Sevans wife.
Well I actually started to fall in love with Sevan that day. But ze was a lesbian and I was a guy so I had NO intention of persueing hir.
Fast forward a month and the three of us are great friends. The 3 of us are basically a sexless triad now. (well I wasn't getting any, they were and that was not an issue to me) We did everything togather and we are really tight.
Then on my birthday the three of us went to a hot springs. We hung out chit chated and had a good time. On the way back to our place (they moved in by now) Sevan informs me that was the moment ze realised that ze had fallen in love with me.

Well it only takes hir about a week to tell me "I am in love with you, and I know you are in love with me. Do not deny it!"
I could not deny it. I was indeed in love and had been for awhile. I said as much.

Then a few weeks latter Sevan gets it in hir head that ze is going to tell hir wife that ze is in love with me. Ze somehow thought that would be a good idea. How ze thought this I am at a loss.
Well you can all properly imagine how that was recieved on valentines day!!!
Well over the next month there is allot of tension between the two of them and Sevan and I introduce Sevan to straight sex behind hir wifes back. The passion between the two of us was too much to bear. We had to get it out of our skin. We had already decided that we would be a couple and we just had to get the question of wheather heterosexual sex was going to be something Sevan could deal with. (yes Sevan was a gold star dyke up till that point.) Well it turns out that not only is heterosexual sex not the anethema Sevan had imagined...turns out ze is indeed bisexual. Which was quite the revalation to hir as you can imagine. (We had already decided that even if ze did not like the sex we would become a sexless couple. But the consumation of the relationship had to take place.)

Over the next month the two of them fall apart and Sevan kicked hir wife out of our house.

I tried to get sevan to keep hir wife and be a triad with Sevan at the center. There was only friendship between me and the wife. At first of course hir wife was oppossed to the arangement, but in the end she was amniable to the idea. But Sevan had had enough of hir wifes lazy abusive ->-bleeped-<-. (did I mention the wife was an abusive, slovenly, perma-stoner, and emotionaly alienateing to Sevan?)

Sevan and I have been togather ever since.
We have been through the ringer togather. The amount of things we have endured as a couple would have broken other couples soon into the relationship.

But we have never waivered in our love and comitment to eachother. Each trial we have endured has only served to drive us closser to eachother.

I believe in timeless love that endures all and comes out in the end forged like steel.

How can I not believe in love?
It is my most valuable treasure.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: cynthialee on October 27, 2011, 10:50:26 AM
Oh I forgot to mention that I revieled my true gender to Sevan over the bottle of whiskey and ze confided in me that ze had some cross gender feelings also at that time.

So Sevan was informed and did not enter the relationship with me blind to the fact I was really a woman.


Togather the last 8 years and married 6 come March.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Forever21Chic on October 27, 2011, 12:52:27 PM


I believe in life after love....wait isn't that a song?  :eusa_think:
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on October 27, 2011, 05:54:58 PM
Quote from: cynthialee on October 27, 2011, 10:50:26 AM
Oh I forgot to mention that I revieled my true gender to Sevan over the bottle of whiskey and ze confided in me that ze had some cross gender feelings also at that time.

So Sevan was informed and did not enter the relationship with me blind to the fact I was really a woman.


Togather the last 8 years and married 6 come March.

ze?

As in ze lobby?
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on October 27, 2011, 05:55:26 PM
Quote from: Rukia87xo on October 27, 2011, 12:52:27 PM

I believe in life after love....wait isn't that a song?  :eusa_think:

Yeah, by Cher.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: eli77 on October 27, 2011, 06:07:08 PM
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 27, 2011, 05:54:58 PM
ze?

As in ze lobby?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun)

Sevan is androgyn. Ze prefers neutral pronouns, specifically ze/hir.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on October 27, 2011, 06:18:46 PM
Quote from: Sarah7 on October 27, 2011, 06:07:08 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun)

Sevan is androgyn. Ze prefers neutral pronouns, specifically ze/hir.

Got it. k.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: cynthialee on October 27, 2011, 06:29:57 PM
Sarah is right.
Sevan prefers gender nuetral pronouns.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Jen-Jen on November 01, 2011, 12:32:53 PM
Quote from: Rukia87xo on October 27, 2011, 12:52:27 PM

I believe in life after love....wait isn't that a song?  :eusa_think:
I don't believe in life after love.... how can you have life with no love?
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Lily on November 01, 2011, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 01, 2011, 12:32:53 PM
I don't believe in life after love.... how can you have life with no love?

For me it is an empty life, but only temporary. I know love will come around again one day, I just need to be patient.
Title: Re: Do you believe in Love?
Post by: Jen-Jen on November 01, 2011, 11:16:04 PM
Quote from: Lily on November 01, 2011, 01:05:39 PM
For me it is an empty life, but only temporary. I know love will come around again one day, I just need to be patient.
I hope so and I wish you the best!