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Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: ativan on October 23, 2011, 02:57:38 PM

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Post by: ativan on October 23, 2011, 02:57:38 PM
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Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: Sevan on October 23, 2011, 03:54:19 PM
I don't understand the question...nor do I feel qualified to answer. So I'll leave you with *hugs*
Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: Julian on October 24, 2011, 08:48:00 AM
Quote from: @ivan on October 23, 2011, 08:27:08 PM
Trust me, I have been so far into the hell, that this is nothing.
I can laugh in the face of my insanity.
I am not afraid of myself any longer.
Neither should anyone else.

I'm not entirely sure what you asked in the original post, but I see a little something here. You've been through hell, and this is nothing. That's great. You're not afraid of yourself. That's good too. When I'm at my worst, I'm terrified of myself and what I'm capable of. I've been close to suicide a lot lately, and I really think I could do it. That scares me.

PS: I voted "insane side of normal" because who isn't a little insane? :)
Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: JadeS on October 24, 2011, 09:34:18 AM
I don't think I can get much lower than I am right now
Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: AbraCadabra on October 24, 2011, 10:14:21 AM
Oh hell, now just wait a minute here.

Delusions only become apparent - to the "beholder" once he gains insight and actually starts to realize what he/we pretend not to know.

Like: "What do you pretend you don't know?"

If that sentence make no sense to you, it is your first delusion, in that you think you do not pretend not to know certain things.

Usually it goes: "What's to painful to remember, we decide (pretend) simply to forget."

We, all of us, can get VERY, VERY good at that. Yet, that memory will still be with us and gets triggered when we get too close to what we like to be forgotten.

So, since we do not have any easy access to our subconscious how can we really know how delusional we are?

We actually can't. Only a knowing and insightful other person may be able to get clues as to our current state of delusions, (repressions, denials, over-compensations, etc.) All these are usually a pretty good clue as to how deluded we are.

"It is the most powerful ability in the human being to delude ourselves."
Someone once said - and I think who ever it was, Freud, Jung, Adler, etc. etc. he, they truly had a point.

I personally have seen too many deluded folks (incl. Myself) not to take head.

So I say I currently I'm "normally" deluded - but that may just be my present delusion, see what I mean? :-)

Axelle
Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: tekla on October 25, 2011, 05:03:36 PM
Not thinking you are delusional is the first delusion, the prime delusion, the Ur delusion and the uber decision all at the same time.
Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: Pica Pica on October 25, 2011, 05:23:06 PM
I think it's all jabbering nonsense and either a person should say something or not say something, not all this shady shilly shallying round the centre.
Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: Hermione01 on October 25, 2011, 05:24:38 PM
I've been delusional, thinking something is real when it is not. The relationship was real for sure, but I chose to forget how it came to be and tried to be happy with what I imagined it to be. It was a survival technique I learnt as a child, push the pain aside and just get on with things. When I look back, that is how I see it, a delusion of my own creation.  :-\
Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: AbraCadabra on October 25, 2011, 11:34:40 PM
A sign of delusion would be to see an objections, oppositions were there actually are NONE, simply shared insights and possibly different knowing?

So, is THAT any news? Maybe?

BTW, NOTHING whatever is being picked apart so far other then picking apart what actually is not.
Now that - may just be my delusion :-)

Wakey, wakey...

Axelle
PS: We are not talking about seeing monkeys in our milk bottles - I do hope... much of a delusion THAT might be.
Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: tekla on October 25, 2011, 11:54:36 PM
seeing monkeys in our milk bottles

Nice.  Is that yours, or is it a cultural/linguistic idiom?
Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: AbraCadabra on October 26, 2011, 10:40:29 AM
Just lock your thread, if the answers are not what you want.

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Axelle

Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: Kinkly on October 26, 2011, 03:41:41 PM
Am I delusional I Hope not but maybe I am.
The fear that I will never find someone who will love me for who I am is Huge. The Hope that there is someone out there is someone out there for me might be a Delusion.
The Idea that me Being me is Safer then me trying to be "Normal" might be real or it might be a delusion.  I was told that I would be Bashed If I walked through the City With my full beard while wearing a dress. That hasn't been an Issue and I now do it regulary.
I have a hidden disability the Idea that people don't pick up on my problems is problems is probably a delusion. When I miss my hormones the "well Its ok just don't forget them again soon" is a bit of a delusional Idea I know I'm not as happy or as comfortable is my skin when I've missed my T- Blockers & Estrogen.

Title: Re: What is the current state of my delusions?
Post by: Sarah Louise on October 26, 2011, 04:51:39 PM
First and only warning folks, tone it down or the thread will be locked.