Do you ever feel like your just a boy with long hair and make up,wearing girl cloths? No matter how good you pass or how much you know you are a girl?
I feel like this sometimes :(
Nope.
Yes. The reason: because girls and boys are not so different after all. There are SOOOO many similarities between men and women that are easily overlooked. Since we are trans, though, we have to kind of overcompensate a little, as the similarities are more uncomfortable for us since most of us don't want to be reminded of being male. (For MTF.)
That's how I see it, at least... :-\
As I have blended into society and become comfortable with who I am, I no longer feel like a gender, I just feel like me. I went through a phase of feeling like a boy sometimes, then the I'm a woman does he think I am a woman I don't care I am a woman phase, now I know I am woman and just go through the day without thinking about it ;)
Feel like a boy? No, not that I can recall, I always felt like ME, maybe a tomboy once in a while? - what ever that was.
Feeling like a girl/female was not allowed though, it was really terrible to keep getting "nailed over the wrong last" for decades.
Best to try and forget now, oh my --- sob!
Axelle
When I feel like ->-bleeped-<-, I have a bad tendency to call myself a pretend girl. But, no, I don't think I've ever thought of myself as a boy.
Quote from: Sarah7 on November 01, 2011, 11:37:39 PM
When I feel like ->-bleeped-<-, I have a bad tendency to call myself a pretend girl. But, no, I don't think I've ever thought of myself as a boy.
maybe this is more of what I meant.... I dunno......, I call myself a pretend girl too!
I try not to, because then I end up hating myself.
I feel like a girl on the outside. But like a catty gay man on the inside...
Then I woke up from that sour patch kids overdose.
But seriously, no matter how passable you are...People can still tell.
Quote from: Sarah7 on November 01, 2011, 11:37:39 PM
When I feel like ->-bleeped-<-, I have a bad tendency to call myself a pretend girl. But, no, I don't think I've ever thought of myself as a boy.
I do the same..though in the opposite way lol.
Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 01, 2011, 11:49:27 PM
maybe this is more of what I meant.... I dunno......, I call myself a pretend girl too!
Poor Jen-Jen! :'(
I can relate, but I've never let myself believe the doubts. I'm a girl, it's just that simple. You are too. I'm sure of it. I don't know you, we've never met, but I'm absolutely certain you're a girl. So give the voice in your head expressing those doubts a punch in the face, straight from your pal Sailor_Saturn.
So frequently that I've decided to go back to being a guy. It's just who I am. Even though I enjoy looking and feeling feminine, it's not really who I am, I discovered. A very sad, and scary discovery after all this energy I put into transition.
right there with you jen right there and right now it sucks dosnt it feels like no mater what you do or say
jessi
Quote from: Grave Robber 9 (from Outer Space) on November 02, 2011, 12:30:24 AM
So frequently that I've decided to go back to being a guy. It's just who I am. Even though I enjoy looking and feeling feminine, it's not really who I am, I discovered. A very sad, and scary discovery after all this energy I put into transition.
Ever consider just being a drag queen/crossdresser? It's like having your cake and eating it to....
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 02, 2011, 12:39:31 AM
Ever consider just being a drag queen/crossdresser? It's like having your cake and eating it to....
I'm too smart to be a drag queen, fursealz. I wanna do sumthin' substantial with me life... not dance in a night club.
Quote from: Grave Robber 9 (from Outer Space) on November 02, 2011, 12:46:01 AM
I'm too smart to be a drag queen, fursealz. I wanna do sumthin' substantial with me life... not dance in a night club.
They do charity events. I don't really know much about my drag friends honestly.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 02, 2011, 12:49:57 AM
They do charity events. I don't really know much about my drag friends honestly.
People that are drag queens were destined to be so from day one. I wasn't. Thanks dough :).
Quote from: Sailor_Saturn on November 02, 2011, 12:28:57 AM
Poor Jen-Jen! :'(
I can relate, but I've never let myself believe the doubts. I'm a girl, it's just that simple. You are too. I'm sure of it. I don't know you, we've never met, but I'm absolutely certain you're a girl. So give the voice in your head expressing those doubts a punch in the face, straight from your pal Sailor_Saturn.
Thank you, and I will try and punch it!
Quote from: Grave Robber 9 (from Outer Space) on November 02, 2011, 12:30:24 AM
So frequently that I've decided to go back to being a guy. It's just who I am. Even though I enjoy looking and feeling feminine, it's not really who I am, I discovered. A very sad, and scary discovery after all this energy I put into transition.
oh no please no! I know its not who I am! I know I'm a girl inside!
Quote from: jesse on November 02, 2011, 12:34:17 AM
right there with you jen right there and right now it sucks dosnt it feels like no mater what you do or say
jessi
it does and I hate it!
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 02, 2011, 12:04:48 AM
I feel like a girl on the outside. But like a catty gay man on the inside...
Then I woke up from that sour patch kids overdose.
But seriously, no matter how passable you are...People can still tell.
I have to disagree with you, that's not true for everyone. Considering genetic's, HRT, GRS/SRS.. People cannot always tell. I'm Pre everything and I don't wear make up. (pluck my eyebrows and have long hair) nonetheless I pass with flying colors.
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Stay on subject please! :police:
Quote from: jesse on November 02, 2011, 03:13:42 AM
or the people you met were to polite to laugh in your face
what do you need her pics for mahsa your about as ugly as they come lol
jessi
Wow.....rude much?
Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 02, 2011, 03:22:47 AM
Stay on subject please! :police:
Yes mam! Sometimes when i'm comparing myself to genetic women...i feel like a boy or "pretend girl" & i really hate that feeling. :(
sometimes its ok to call her a lier but not to call the other ugly lol what a joke no worries ill delete the post out of respect for jen and her thread
peace out
jessi
tonight I was laying here in girly pajamas just relaxing and I couldn't help but feel male in how i was laying.
it seems to happen more when im alone. even if im out as male I feel i act way more effeminate around others and when by myself tend to just feel manly.
I pay it little mind though. if i analyze what I'm doing its nothing that is strictly male, i just happen to feel male while doing it for some reason.
since I'm not far in transition its not bothering me too much now, but i can see it getting to em alter if it continues.
No not really.. I feel like a girl and love what I am becoming.
I am very girly and maybe it because I try so hard to be that woman I know I am.. I even got a compliant from a female friend. She said she cant believe how much of a girl I am.
I wear a lot of dresses, I love wearing makeup, earings and heels.. I can shoe shop with the best of them :) ..maybe that me trying too hard... but it who I am.
I love been pampered and then I feel like a princess.
Feeling like a boy... what is that exactly?
I identify as female but there are plenty stereotypical "male" things I just love to do.
Because I was raised as male I came into contact wit masculine passtimes sooner than with feminine passtimes so it is not surprisingly I found several of my interests there. When playing with Lego I don't feel like a boy, I just feel like a child. When preparing my airplane for a flight I don't feel like the stereotypical male captain, no I just feel like me, doing what I like.
I feel like this a lot...probably because I'm still pre-everything, but it goes away more often when I'm alone. Not so much around other people though. It's why I had to stop living full-time; between all my masculine bodily flaws, still being called "he" (by people I know), and paranoia about getting clocked, I couldn't help but feel like something someone stepped in...like I deserved put-downs for looking not like a girl, but a "boy who wants to be a girl".
I still wear feminine clothes most of the time, but I admit to everyone around me that I'm biologically male (use the boys room, allow people to call me "he", etc.) I haven't decided if I'm being more genuine to my current situation, or less genuine to myself, but it does stop making me feel like a "pretend girl" because I'm not fighting the uphill battle of completely passing.
Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 01, 2011, 09:53:35 PM
Do you ever feel like your just a boy man with long hair and make up,wearing girl cloths? No matter how good you pass or how much you know you are a girl?
Yeah, when I've got a circular saw in my hand ready to rip a sheet of 4'x8' plywood that I just picked up and set on the saw horses. Or when I'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt and a baseball cap as I shovel a yard of black dirt into a new plant bed I just made with retaining wall blocks. Or when I'm using a 150 pound power rodder that I just lugged down the stairs to clean out the sewer line to the street and the fresh aroma of raw sewage is wafting in the air.
It's hard to feel girly at times like that.
Quote from: jesse on November 02, 2011, 03:31:22 AM
sometimes its ok to call her a lier but not to call the other ugly lol what a joke no worries ill delete the post out of respect for jen and her thread
peace out
jessi
Did you call me ugly?
Quote from: jesse on November 02, 2011, 03:31:22 AM
sometimes its ok to call her a lier but not to call the other ugly lol what a joke no worries ill delete the post out of respect for jen and her thread
peace out
jessi
Love how I can understand everything you say perfectly.
Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 01, 2011, 09:53:35 PM
Do you ever feel like your just a boy with long hair and make up,wearing girl cloths? No matter how good you pass or how much you know you are a girl?
I feel like this sometimes :(
I know that feeling and is not a good thing, so I decided to fight it.
I decided first to feel like ME, then to do the things I like, to have a long hair, sometimes wear make up and dress woman clothes. It was very difficult to me to say if I feel male or female, since I´ve never been inside the mind of any other person, male or female, to know how does it feels.
Now I clearly identify myself as a woman, because I do the same things that lots of women do.
Quote from: noleen111 on November 02, 2011, 10:04:36 AM
No not really.. I feel like a girl and love what I am becoming.
I am very girly and maybe it because I try so hard to be that woman I know I am.. I even got a compliant from a female friend. She said she cant believe how much of a girl I am.
I wear a lot of dresses, I love wearing makeup, earings and heels.. I can shoe shop with the best of them :) ..maybe that me trying too hard... but it who I am.
I love been pampered and then I feel like a princess.
I got complimented on my shirt by my mum's partner the other day. He NEVER notices clothing so it was kinda cool. It was a guy's shirt. I like the boost I get from looking like a girl in guy's clothes - the way they hang on my slight frame and show off curves that they aren't designed to accommodate. It soothes my dysphoria, and makes me feel like a proper girl, not fake, not pretend. Whereas dresses, makeup, dangly earrings, and heels often make me kind of uncomfortable, like I'm trying to be someone I'm not.
My name means princess, and my evil sister has turned it into a nickname 'cause she likes the irony. But really I am a princess, just a very different kind. ;)
When I put on a dress I feel like a fake girl. My shoulders seem to get wider than they are and I become very self concious of them and my arms. I should try to get used to this more since i sometimes like dresses.
I've often felt and, dare I say wished, I could be a real boy. I worked hard on it. Still there came times in my life when I said what am I doing and seriously considered transitioning. The years of shame and guilt never allowed be to feel comfortable being a woman. A good 80% of the time out in the real world, I just felt like some guy in a dress. So I went back to pretending to be a guy. Far less guilt in that.
Fast forward a few decades. I still have some guilt. The wrong words, no matter how innocently said or well intentioned, can still temporarily guilt me into wanting to chuck it all. A good 90% of the time and 100% while presenting I feel good about myself now.
Psh.
I feel the absolute best when I'm not thinking about it.
Physically sometimes and I blame that on chemicals.
Spiritually, no, deep down inside, I am a girl and I have best friends waiting for me who I haven't physically met yet.
Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 02, 2011, 01:01:32 AM
Thank you, and I will try and punch it!
Not a problem. I give a mental slap to myself whenever thoughts like this show up, and being an Army brat I tend to think in combative terms. Sorry if that came off as awkward.
Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 02, 2011, 01:01:32 AM
oh no please no! I know its not who I am! I know I'm a girl inside!
I believe this individual was talking about their own gender identity, not yours.
Quote from: Rukia87xo on November 02, 2011, 03:29:20 AM
Yes mam! Sometimes when i'm comparing myself to genetic women...i feel like a boy or "pretend girl" & i really hate that feeling. :(
oh don't compare honey that's the worse! Omg! It makes me so jealous and fustrated when I do that.
Quote from: jesse on November 02, 2011, 03:31:22 AM
sometimes its ok to call her a lier but not to call the other ugly lol what a joke no worries ill delete the post out of respect for jen and her thread
peace out
jessi
Thank you for the respect, Jessi
Quote from: noleen111 on November 02, 2011, 10:04:36 AM
No not really.. I feel like a girl and love what I am becoming.
I am very girly and maybe it because I try so hard to be that woman I know I am.. I even got a compliant from a female friend. She said she cant believe how much of a girl I am.
I wear a lot of dresses, I love wearing makeup, earings and heels.. I can shoe shop with the best of them :) ..maybe that me trying too hard... but it who I am.
I love been pampered and then I feel like a princess.
I am very girly too, I get the same complaint, but I take it as a compliment. I always get told "your such a girl!" But I still feel like a boy in etc, ect! Sometimes.
Quote from: Venus-Castina on November 02, 2011, 10:24:29 AM
Feeling like a boy... what is that exactly?
I identify as female but there are plenty stereotypical "male" things I just love to do.
Because I was raised as male I came into contact wit masculine passtimes sooner than with feminine passtimes so it is not surprisingly I found several of my interests there. When playing with Lego I don't feel like a boy, I just feel like a child. When preparing my airplane for a flight I don't feel like the stereotypical male captain, no I just feel like me, doing what I like.
I don't know what it is, but I feel it. I identify as female too but I still feel like a boy sometimes, and not because of the stereotypical boy stuff I like.
Quote from: Amaranth on November 02, 2011, 11:05:51 AM
I feel like this a lot...probably because I'm still pre-everything, but it goes away more often when I'm alone. Not so much around other people though. It's why I had to stop living full-time; between all my masculine bodily flaws, still being called "he" (by people I know), and paranoia about getting clocked, I couldn't help but feel like something someone stepped in...like I deserved put-downs for looking not like a girl, but a "boy who wants to be a girl".
I still wear feminine clothes most of the time, but I admit to everyone around me that I'm biologically male (use the boys room, allow people to call me "he", etc.) I haven't decided if I'm being more genuine to my current situation, or less genuine to myself, but it does stop making me feel like a "pretend girl" because I'm not fighting the uphill battle of completely passing.
I am pre everything too! Your right it does go away more often when I am alone. You are so right! I wear femme cloths sometimes, I hate admitting bio male, and I hate being called he him any male pronouns but I allow it.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 02, 2011, 12:04:48 AM
But seriously, no matter how passable you are...People can still tell.
You are quite wrong on that.
To answer the OP, no. I've never ever felt like a boy. That's why I transitioned.
I suppose I should clarify:
I really don't know if I have ever felt like a boy. Just don't. I don't think so.
But seriously, no matter how passable you are...People can still tell.
People can tell in my case, and they still think I'm beautiful. I'm a winner.
Quote from: Julie Marie on November 02, 2011, 11:06:25 AM
Yeah, when I've got a circular saw in my hand ready to rip a sheet of 4'x8' plywood that I just picked up and set on the saw horses. Or when I'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt and a baseball cap as I shovel a yard of black dirt into a new plant bed I just made with retaining wall blocks. Or when I'm using a 150 pound power rodder that I just lugged down the stairs to clean out the sewer line to the street and the fresh aroma of raw sewage is wafting in the air.
It's hard to feel girly at times like that.
I agree, that would be pretty hard.
Quote from: Julo on November 02, 2011, 04:25:50 PM
When I put on a dress I feel like a fake girl. My shoulders seem to get wider than they are and I become very self concious of them and my arms. I should try to get used to this more since i sometimes like dresses.
ughh ... the shoulders, I know I hate when they do that! I like dresses too!
Quote from: Sarah7 on November 02, 2011, 12:56:33 PM
I got complimented on my shirt by my mum's partner the other day. He NEVER notices clothing so it was kinda cool. It was a guy's shirt. I like the boost I get from looking like a girl in guy's clothes - the way they hang on my slight frame and show off curves that they aren't designed to accommodate. It soothes my dysphoria, and makes me feel like a proper girl, not fake, not pretend. Whereas dresses, makeup, dangly earrings, and heels often make me kind of uncomfortable, like I'm trying to be someone I'm not.
My name means princess, and my evil sister has turned it into a nickname 'cause she likes the irony. But really I am a princess, just a very different kind. ;)
that would definetly be a great boost! You are a princess! Takes one to know one.
Quote from: EmmaM on November 02, 2011, 07:09:40 PM
Psh.
I feel the absolute best when I'm not thinking about it.
Ditto!
Quote from: Butterflyhugs on November 02, 2011, 10:21:43 PM
To answer the OP, no. I've never ever felt like a boy. That's why I transitioned.
I don't mean it like that, I don't feel like a boy in that sense either, thus the reason I am transitioning. But sometimes I can't help but feel like I'm just a boy trying to hard to be the real cis girl, ill never be!
There are many times when I look at my body and don't feel feminine - I think I'm too tall (6'0"), my bones are to big, my rib cage to prominent, no ass what-so-ever, but I don't feel like a boy. I think I've just about always felt like a girl - I just didn't know that was how girls felt.
I feel like this a lot, but mainly because I don't pass. And when I am passing, it's with suspicion. I get people testing the waters with a pronoun. They'll say "she?" and there's an audible question mark at the end.
I got someone apologizing for thinking I was a woman once. They heard my voice and then when I came around they realized their "mistake."
:'(
Somebody tryna play dumb I see.
OP. I know what you mean. We mostly feel this way when we keep getting clocked by people or when we see cis girls with their perfect bodies and such. You have to learn to be content with your body. I know, easier said than done. Just focus on the good things. On things you like about yourself. For the things you don't like, work to improve those areas.
Quote from: JenJen2011 on November 04, 2011, 04:51:49 PM
Somebody tryna play dumb I see.
OP. I know what you mean. We mostly feel this way when we keep getting clocked by people or when we see cis girls with their perfect bodies and such. You have to learn to be content with your body. I know, easier said than done. Just focus on the good things. On things you like about yourself. For the things you don't like, work to improve those areas.
Jen, no one is playing dum, I truly feel this way sometimes and just wanted to know if others did too. Your right bei g content with your body is easier said than done. What if you see no good things or you don't like any of yourself? Then what?
Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 04, 2011, 06:12:35 PM
Jen, no one is playing dum, I truly feel this way sometimes and just wanted to know if others did too. Your right bei g content with your body is easier said than done. What if you see no good things or you don't like any of yourself? Then what?
Then you remember what Nick said - that all of you are truly beautiful and unique. That each and every one of you is a girl in her own respect - no different from any cis-gendered female on this planet. That the only difference to be noted between you and the biogirls is a realization of who you are - who you're meant to be - and an appreciation for "girl-hood" that is usually taken for granted. None of you should - for one moment in time - think that you are anything but real. You, who had the courage to become who you should be, could never be "fake". You could never be just a "boy in a dress" because you aren't boys. You are girls, plain and simple. :)
I think even genetic girls feel like boys at times.
which explains why alot of em stock up on makeup and clothes hair surgery etc
and men feel femminine at times too but brush it off along with their feelings.
its natural to be insecure.
everyone has male and female in them
accept it.
Quote from: winter88 on November 04, 2011, 07:35:47 PM
its natural to be insecure.
everyone has male and female in them
accept it.
You know, I'm really glad you said that. I wear camo fatigues and like to do all sorts of masculine things like rough and tumble sports, but I know in my heart that I'm just an Army girl, a tomboy. You've made me feel a lot better about myself. I can be a girl who likes guns, baseball, and martial arts.
Quote from: Sailor_Saturn on November 04, 2011, 09:32:53 PM
You know, I'm really glad you said that. I wear camo fatigues and like to do all sorts of masculine things like rough and tumble sports, but I know in my heart that I'm just an Army girl, a tomboy. You've made me feel a lot better about myself. I can be a girl who likes guns, baseball, and martial arts.
np. alot of genetic girls are tomboys, the thing with trans girls that gives them away is their face and body. i usto also think that mannerisms or the way you walk or overdoing it wit the clothes gives u away. but i was wrong
ive learned its simply just looking rougher or more masculine is what gives us away. has nothing to do with mannerisms or the walk cuz ive had some professional female actresses mimic and walk and act and talk and move around wit that insecure ->-bleeped-<- vibe and overdo the clothes and femmininty but u can still tell they are women. its really just a facial body thing. thats my opinion .
if you look like a real women u can act liker hulk hogan but people will still see a soft fem female.
I feel like an impostor sometimes, with my brow ridge, broad shoulders, and long feet. And I'm losing my feminine voice. But, I've let go of the illusion that I'll ever pass and I'm learning to not care. I wouldn't say that I ever feel like a boy per se though.