So I've been on T for nearly six months now, my official six month mark will be next Sunday.
But anyway, I've noticed tons of effects and I'm pretty pumped about most of them, some of them suck though...
Anyway, I'm curious, what are your favorite and least favorite parts of T, and how far along are you?
Like I said, I'm almost half a year along,
My favorite parts are; The lack of the bloody fairy, the voice change, my developing happy trail (Seriously, I've always wanted a snail trail, ALWAYS) and my newest discovery, my very tiny Adam's apple.
My least favorite parts; THE ACNE. Holy hell, I look like a pizza >__O; That, and when my voice was cracking because it was extremely hard to talk without squeaking and getting laughed at >.<; but that's over now ^^
It's been over 7 months for me, and the best parts for me are the voice change (mine was pretty high before), the body hair, and the muscle gain. I've had a lot of muscle development and can do 15+ pull ups now. A lot of that was from working out, but the T was responsible too.
My skin is the only bad part, it just started getting bad around the 6 month mark. I think I'm going to get on an antibiotic or accutane soon though before I scar myself badly by picking at the back and shoulder acne.
Cons: significantly increased blood pressure, significantly increased cholesterol, acne especially on my back, shoulders, and chest, stinkiness, feeling dry/thirsty a lot, not being able to cry, increased frustration, increased wiping in bathroom, increased sex drive
Pros: more leg and tummy hair, growth down there, voice changes, fat redistribution
That's all I could think of right now.
hmm around 6 mounts I think?...
favorite part; my adams apeal and my voice, my voice chancing, my face chancing, my mucels..
my hate;
hmm I dont know if I love or hate it but getting hairy isnt something I wish for, but it also depends on how much, right now im not that hairy.
in general the thing I hate is it dosent chance fast enought XD,
I havent got so much acne yet, but if I do I will hate that as well.
Oh, monthlies stopped as another pro. I'm just shy of one year. I haven't noticed muscle development, adams apple, or much in the way of facial hair.
Pros: Everything
Nov. 15 will be 9 months for me and I haven't had much change at all... or should I say no change at all.
Cons: Acne, weight gain, hair in unwanted places, hair thinning on my head, enlarge clit? Not sure about that, don't really pay attention to that, as long as it hasn't given me a problem, I'm okay with it, but it wasn't a side effect I wanted.... that's all I can think of right now.
Pros: None. I haven't noticed any pros yet... well, not getting a period is great. But other than that, nothing. Voice is a little deeper, but nothing drastic... I'm not happy with it, I want it to be a lot more deeper. At 9 months is should be.
In conclusion... T has been a waste so far. It has done nothing for me but given me all the negative side effects I didn't want.
Pros: deep voice, increased muscle mass, body fat redistribution, no more bleeding, downstairs growth, facial hair, more body hair, more stable mood, increased energy, and I just feel more like myself.
Cons: increased sex drive, acne, I sweat more, and I'm more impatient.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on November 03, 2011, 10:06:00 PM
In conclusion... T has been a waste so far. It has done nothing for me but given me all the negative side effects I didn't want.
Why keep taking it then?
Quote from: Nygeel on November 03, 2011, 06:27:31 PM
Oh, monthlies stopped as another pro. I'm just shy of one year. I haven't noticed muscle development, adams apple, or much in the way of facial hair.
do you think E blockers would help?
Quote from: Sharky on November 04, 2011, 12:54:28 AM
do you think E blockers would help?
I can't tell. I think estrogen blockers might be harmful to my heart health. I also don't know if I can afford them.
Two years and almost 3 months for me.
Pros:
Increased muscle mass.
No longer as controlled by emotions, I can control them more.
Lack of crying.
Start of facial hair (though it has been a long time coming).
Deepened voice.
Feet grew two sizes and are now a male range size I'm happy with.
Massively increased body hair, in most areas I absolutely love it. It got much darker too.
I get bugs, colds and flu much less frequently and seem to have a higher immunity to most illness.
Smell has changed to something I like much more.
Fat redistribution has shrunk my hips, bum and legs.
Hands grew and I was relieved as most say this is a "tell-tale" sign.
Genital growth.
Being seen as I see myself.
Becoming increasingly recognisable in the mirror.
Being taken more seriously by everyone because they see me as male, although this also makes me sad.
Looking youthful!
Cons:
Fat redistribution has given me a pot belly I need to work off.
I get hungry, a lot! If I don't eat I get really irritable.
I'm thirsty all the time.
I was quite a warm person before and now often I am far too hot, sweat more and in more areas.
Bad skin.
Women avoiding me/being worried if I'm behind them in the street etc.
Guys being horrendously sexist and looking for me to join in.
I've been on T 1 year and a month now.
Pros:
No period.
Loads of body hair. Some places have body hair now that I wished didn't though like my upper arms but I'm happy with it nearly everywhere else.
Side burns and a some hair under my chin.
People seeing me as male.
Being Stronger.
I'm happier with myself.
Cons:
I have loads of spots now :(
I sweat a lot more.
I'm warmer now which is a pro but I can get uncomfortably hot easily wich is definitely a con.
Quote from: Andy8715 on November 04, 2011, 12:20:44 AM
Why keep taking it then?
Still hoping T will do something for me. It should, right? Even if it takes over a year it should make me more masculine looking, right? Although, I did gain or feel some confidence on T, but I'm starting to loose the confidence every time some says I look the same as I did pre-t. I'm on a lower dosage than most guys which is why my changes are probably so slow and why I haven't experience the squeakiness in my voice like most guys have.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on November 04, 2011, 01:44:53 PM
Still hoping T will do something for me. It should, right? Even if it takes over a year it should make me more masculine looking, right? Although, I did gain or feel some confidence on T, but I'm starting to loose the confidence every time some says I look the same as I did pre-t. I'm on a lower dosage than most guys which is why my changes are probably so slow and why I haven't experience the squeakiness in my voice like most guys have.
do you regret starting it? And, are you doing the cream or shots? Sorry to pry, I'm just about to start taking T and looking for advice; trying to know everything, etc
Quote from: Nygeel on November 03, 2011, 01:39:43 PM
Cons: significantly increased blood pressure, significantly increased cholesterol, acne especially on my back, shoulders, and chest, stinkiness, feeling dry/thirsty a lot, not being able to cry, increased frustration, increased wiping in bathroom, increased sex drive
Wow, you just explained exactly how I used to be a year ago. I still get acne (usually non-facial) but I don't stink as much as I used to. Also, I don't get thirsty as often.
One of the things I always hated about myself was that I would get horny way too often. It wasn't even a fun horniness, it was more like my body just wanted sexual release. The other thing that was always annoying was the wiping in the bathroom. I've noticed that now I use a lot less tissue. Before, my feces was always really messy no matter what I ate. Now, it's not nearly as messy as it used to be. My metabolism seems to have changed a lot.
Pros:
Facial hair.
Deepened voice.
Fat redistribution.
Increased muscle growth.
Ceased menstruation.
Cons:
Clit growth.. not too cool on that.
More hair on arms and legs.
Male-patterned baldness.
I stink.
Horniness.
I'm hungry. All. The. Time.
Okay, I know there are more cons than pros on here, but I like the pros so much that they still outweigh the cons.
seam like many hate there little friend, I honestly love it... I think its so awsome. <3
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oh yeah sex drive and the hunger..
havent felt thirst so much but it kinda annoying to be hungry all the time. -__-
I somehow feel sex drive is annoying as well, but then it has this posetive side that I get less annoyed of horny guys, because..
yeah then I know what its like..
so not 100% bad the food thing are worse.
Quote from: Natkat on November 04, 2011, 02:43:52 PM
havent felt thirst so much but it kinda annoying to be hungry all the time. -__-
My hunger hasn't changed very much, although my digestion seems to have changed a lot. I feel like I digest my food better. Before, I always felt like I was so nervous that my digestive system wasn't working properly. Everything just seemed to go in one end and out the other, which is probably why I'm so skinny.
I'm so with Nygeel on that blood pressure thing. My pulse used to be through the roof. The last time I had my cardiovascular system checked (which was admittedly a long time ago) my heartrate was crazy. Even the lowest reading on the EKG put me above the threshold for what is considered safe.
I feel a lot calmer now than I used to, and my heart only seems to be really fast when I get excited.
QuoteI somehow feel sex drive is annoying as well, but then it has this posetive side that I get less annoyed of horny guys, because..
yeah then I know what its like..
I totally get you on that one. I find it really hard to judge horny guys because I've been one (in a sense) and my best friend has similar problems with being way too horny. Maybe he still does have this problem, I dunno. I still remember what it felt like to become horny at the drop of a hat, for no reason. I can't really blame anyone for acting on it.
Wiping issue is due to having a hairy crack not digestion related.
Pros: deepened voice, more body and facial hair, fat redistribution, no more periods, genital growth, increased muscle mass.
Cons: acne :(
Things that may or may not be related to T: weight loss; lowered cholesterol, LDLs, and triglycerides; increased HDLs; lowered blood pressure; increased heart rate; further stabilization of mood.
Pros: All of the physical changes
Cons: Some of the social changes (women more likely to feel threatened by me, dudes wanting me to join in on sexist conversations, etc)
dude, lol you know that a "snail trail" is when a girl is very turned on, and she slides herself on your leg or stomach and she uh.. puts a trail of you know what on your skin..
anyway, sorry i just had to correct that,
pros
muscle
thicker skin
dick growth
morning boners lol
better orgasms
sweat and BO (smells amazing)
more strength
body temp
assertiveness/aggression
voice
body hair
facial hair
fat redistribution and body shape changes
face structure changes
height growth
no periods
cons
umm, more facial acne, backne, chest acne
memory loss, harder to remember things
(thats all the cons i can think of)
Pros: muscle mass, voice changes, facial/body hair, lack of periods, fat redistribution, facial masculinization, emotional control, and a more masculine appearance overall.
Cons: Acne, body temp, sweating and sex drive.
Quote from: Nygeel on November 04, 2011, 03:07:51 PM
Wiping issue is due to having a hairy crack not digestion related.
LMAO!!
I'm definitely not looking forward to a hairier ass.
I'm happy that most people seem to be happy after getting on T and have relatively little side effects, but it's not for everyone. I was one of those people where it didn't work out. A couple years ago I tried it to see if it did improve my self image. Because I had almost immediate reactions to it, I stopped very early on. I've been in my body long enough now to know when something just doesn't feel right. Things I experienced were feeling generally ill (like flu and nausea) after shots, increased aggressiveness, moodiness and depression, increased sex drive, increased blood pressure and heart palpitations. To me, it wasn't worth it to risk my heath, especially since I had no plan to transition.
Similar to what insideontheoutside said...if I'm unable to get my heart health under control without other medication, I intend on stopping T.
Quote from: insideontheoutside on November 04, 2011, 10:04:57 PM
I'm happy that most people seem to be happy after getting on T and have relatively little side effects, but it's not for everyone. I was one of those people where it didn't work out. A couple years ago I tried it to see if it did improve my self image. Because I had almost immediate reactions to it, I stopped very early on. I've been in my body long enough now to know when something just doesn't feel right. Things I experienced were feeling generally ill (like flu and nausea) after shots, increased aggressiveness, moodiness and depression, increased sex drive, increased blood pressure and heart palpitations. To me, it wasn't worth it to risk my heath, especially since I had no plan to transition.
Do you think it could have been what the T was suspended in? I've heard of people having reactions to that.
Quote from: Nygeel on November 04, 2011, 10:10:16 PM
Similar to what insideontheoutside said...if I'm unable to get my heart health under control without other medication, I intend on stopping T.
Do you think a different method or dose could help?
Quote from: Sharky on November 04, 2011, 10:26:57 PM
Do you think it could have been what the T was suspended in? I've heard of people having reactions to that.
As far as I know it was just an oil - like cottonseed and I don't have an allergy to any oils.
I've been on T for just 7 months now and so far...
Pros: voice started deepening pretty quickly, losin fat/gaining muscle easier, no periods since my first shot, downstairs growth, nearly instant under chin neck beard thing where I used to have straggly long hairs..., calmer, more motivated to get out and do stuff.
Cons: Voice cracking. It was embarrassing as hell when it cracked during (female) puberty and it's still embarrassing now. sweat like mad, acne on face and back, hair thinning again despite the rogaine, and some body hair where I'd rather not have it (back, upper arms etc).
Quote from: Sharky on November 04, 2011, 10:26:57 PM
Do you think a different method or dose could help?
It might be able to help but I can't afford any other methods than injection. It's just...frustrating (see: things on my cons list...one of them is increased frustration lol)
Quote from: spacerace on November 04, 2011, 01:55:52 PM
do you regret starting it? And, are you doing the cream or shots? Sorry to pry, I'm just about to start taking T and looking for advice; trying to know everything, etc
I'm on shots every other week.
I'm not really sure. I mean, I miss my nice smooth skin, weighing less and my thick hair on my head and being hairless on the body. If I start to have health problems or I lose my hair or my acne becomes out of control... I dunno. I'm just dealing and trying to get through this until my skin clears up and the acne goes away. I don't want to go bald and I don't want to end up having a hysto if I don't need one. Top surgery is the only surgery I plan on getting. So hopefully I can take something that will stop my hair from falling out and hope my insides don't give me a problem. If they do, I'm not sure what will happen.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on November 06, 2011, 08:01:41 PM
I'm on shots every other week.
I'm not really sure. I mean, I miss my nice smooth skin, weighing less and my thick hair on my head and being hairless on the body. If I start to have health problems or I lose my hair or my acne becomes out of control... I dunno. I'm just dealing and trying to get through this until my skin clears up and the acne goes away. I don't want to go bald and I don't want to end up having a hysto if I don't need one. Top surgery is the only surgery I plan on getting. So hopefully I can take something that will stop my hair from falling out and hope my insides don't give me a problem. If they do, I'm not sure what will happen.
I'm curious as to what you were hoping T could provide to you?
Quote from: Andy8715 on November 06, 2011, 08:05:26 PM
I'm curious as to what you were hoping T could provide to you?
Deeper voice and looking more masculine, more muscle, and I kinda want facial hair too. I'd like to grow a go-t.(however you spell it) But if I don't get any, that's okay. I was actually just looking through some old photos, not really sure how old they are. I think they might be from either 2009 or 2010, but I can see from these pics that I do look more masculine now. But just before I transitioned I think I do look the same now.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on November 06, 2011, 08:01:41 PM
So hopefully I can take something that will stop my hair from falling out and hope my insides don't give me a problem. If they do, I'm not sure what will happen.
how do you feel about the DHT blocker pills? the side effects are terrifying for sure, but I've seen some videos other ftms have done where they said they had some luck with hair loss prevention. a good portion of the side effects seem to affect things that won't matter to us anyway like dysfunction and prostate cancer, though other parts of it like mental changes and chance of male breast cancer and breast growth make it seem so not worth it.
this is actually something I am giving a lot of thought too as well, given genetics and naturally fine hair. I am super cautious about taking pills though so dunno how I'll make the call if it happens. Also not sure who prescribes it to you. the endo or whoever gives you the T? I guess I could just ask the doctor how they want to handle it.
Quote from: Elijah on November 04, 2011, 07:25:49 PM
dude, lol you know that a "snail trail" is when a girl is very turned on, and she slides herself on your leg or stomach and she uh.. puts a trail of you know what on your skin..
anyway, sorry i just had to correct that,
pros
muscle
thicker skin
dick growth
morning boners lol
better orgasms
sweat and BO (smells amazing)
more strength
body temp
assertiveness/aggression
voice
body hair
facial hair
fat redistribution and body shape changes
face structure changes
height growth
no periods
cons
umm, more facial acne, backne, chest acne
memory loss, harder to remember things
(thats all the cons i can think of)
This is really funny from a mtf perspective, all of the pros form a laundry list of things I want to stamp out my body with steel toed boots.
I've been on T for a year and a half
Pros: No monthly hell, increased muscle mass, increased strength, tougher skin, deeper voice, facial hair, looking more masculine, losing weight, downstairs growth, darker and thicker body hair, more confidence, increased assertion ability, developing male friendships, being more congruent to myself and others.
Cons: Acne both face and body, although it's mostly under control now thanks to retina-A, increased anger, aggression and irritability issues, making others nervous without meaning too, not knowing my own strength, being out of sync to others guys I know due to lack of childhood conditioning, increased hunger
Quote from: spacerace on November 08, 2011, 02:52:26 AM
how do you feel about the DHT blocker pills? the side effects are terrifying for sure, but I've seen some videos other ftms have done where they said they had some luck with hair loss prevention. a good portion of the side effects seem to affect things that won't matter to us anyway like dysfunction and prostate cancer, though other parts of it like mental changes and chance of male breast cancer and breast growth make it seem so not worth it.
this is actually something I am giving a lot of thought too as well, given genetics and naturally fine hair. I am super cautious about taking pills though so dunno how I'll make the call if it happens. Also not sure who prescribes it to you. the endo or whoever gives you the T? I guess I could just ask the doctor how they want to handle it.
I'm not sure. I was just talking to the nurse today and she said to try rogaine. So I might try that. I'm just not sure when to start it. I mean, I do notice now my hair is thinning and I can see my scalp but I'm not balding yet. I'm not sure if I should wait or try rogaine now. I guess I'll have to ask my endo dr. about that.
I think your endo doctor prescribes to you the DHT blocker pills. Rogaine might be worth a try. I don't know the side effects of that, but it's something I'm looking into doing. I don't like pills either. Are you on T?
start rogaine now. every hair you lose is a hair you will lose forever, though rogaine does bring some hair back, these will fall off again when you stop using rogaine. The DHT blockers are the only effective method to prevent DHT-induced hair loss in the first place - thus the only way to actually keep your hair (whereas rogaine only stimulates the already 'crippled' follicles and only helps as long as you're using it).
Waiting till you can see your scalp is not a good idea at all if your goal is to keep your hair.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on November 08, 2011, 04:24:09 PM
I think your endo doctor prescribes to you the DHT blocker pills. Rogaine might be worth a try. I don't know the side effects of that, but it's something I'm looking into doing. I don't like pills either. Are you on T?
that's a good idea, I am going to read up on rogaine. I haven't started T just yet, just being overcautious and reading this thread to make sure I know what I am getting into before I go all the way. the plan is for top surgery in the spring, so I need to decide eventually if I want to be on T before surgery or not.
I hope you find something that works for you with any hair loss. I waffle back and forth between wanting to do everything I can to prevent it and just sucking it up and seeing what happens.
@emil: Thanks. I'll do that.
Quote from: spacerace on November 08, 2011, 06:02:07 PM
that's a good idea, I am going to read up on rogaine. I haven't started T just yet, just being overcautious and reading this thread to make sure I know what I am getting into before I go all the way. the plan is for top surgery in the spring, so I need to decide eventually if I want to be on T before surgery or not.
I hope you find something that works for you with any hair loss. I waffle back and forth between wanting to do everything I can to prevent it and just sucking it up and seeing what happens.
That's a good idea to read up before taking T. I knew this stuff would probably happen but I told myself no matter what, I'm not going bald, I'm not gonna let my acne get bad and I'm not gunna gain a lot of weight. So far I'm just dealing and thinking of the positive of T.... looking more male.
You have the money for top surgery? Your so lucky! Are you planning on getting a hysto too? I was just talking to the nurse today and she told me when I have the money for top surgery( which will probably be in, not in this lifetime) to get a hysto at the same time b/c it's the anastasia (however you spell it) that cost the most money, not the doctors charge. That might be another thing to look into or anyone who wants to save money. It sounds like a good idea to save money.
it's not a good idea to get a hysto if you're ever considering going off T at any point in your life.
Quote from: emil on November 08, 2011, 06:58:04 PM
it's not a good idea to get a hysto if you're ever considering going off T at any point in your life.
Negative. You can leave the ovaries and remove the uterus which is a hysto and is completely fine. You can also remove the ovaries and suppliment your hormone loss similar to post menopausal women.
@emil: I'm not sure if I'll be on T for the rest of my life. I'm not sure how much longer I can afford T. I may stop for certain reasons, I may not. I'm not sure at this point. All I know is I can't see myself getting shots when I'm an old man. I'd have to switch to gel or something, that's if I'll be able to afford it. But I think T might kill me before I'm an old man as I probably won't get a hytso. As much as I would like all these female parts out of me, I will not have anyone check me out down there. But if I was to get a hytso, I'd want everything removed.
@Nygeel: That's good to know.
sorry Nygeel, but removing the uterus and leaving the ovaries? that's not what people do when they decide not to get everything removed because the ovaries, if anything, are what can cause troubles. Okay, then again, maybe some people DO decide to just get the uterus removed, and it just doesn't happen where I live. Given that FTMs harbor all kinds of fears regarding their inner organs (mostly based on "the cancer rumor").
Dominick: there's not a single study out there that concludes there's a higher risk of cervical cancer in FTMs on T. Sure, as long as you still have those organs, then there's still a chance of cancer, but it's nowhere near proven to be higher than in cis women.
Ovary cysts are really the only risk that goes up on T (and there are no studies on that either, as far as I'm aware, it's just based on the experience of endocrinologists who treat FTMs...who at the same time didn't find a higher cancer rate) - so yes, you should get an endovaginal ultrasound once in a while, and I know it doesn't exactly feel right and it's embarrassing but it's 5 minutes every couple of months....
Emil, its not what people usually do but by definition a hysto is removal of the uterus.
i know the definition, it's just not what people mean by it in an FTM context. Instead of "hysterectomy and oophorectomy" everyone just says "hysto" without meaning to imply that the ovaries remain.
thus, hormones need to be replaced (whether with T or E) , and i thought his fear was that he might not be able to afford the hormones later in life.
Thanks emil.
I want top surgery first which will give me the biggest change. When it is time for lower surgery, I want a total hsyter all the internal parts gone.
@Spacerace, most guys start T before surgery yes. It probably has a lot to do with the costs I guess, though it would differ per country as well.
Here, insurance covers most (or even all I think) of the costs, but you're not allowed to have the surgery untill the genderteam says you're ready, which will mean you will be on T for at least a year.
QuoteI was just talking to the nurse today and she told me when I have the money for top surgery( which will probably be in, not in this lifetime) to get a hysto at the same time b/c it's the anastasia (however you spell it) that cost the most money, not the doctors charge.
Sure, you can save some money by having 2 surgeries done at once. Whether anesthesia is most of the cost of surgery may depend on where you're having surgery. In my case, anesthesia was $500, the operating room was $700, and the surgery was $4500.
There is no way I would have chest surgery and a hysto at the same time.
Quote from: spacerace on November 09, 2011, 03:26:09 PM
Yeah, luckily money and financing is not a problem with top surgery (I'm in my mid 20s and been working awhile to save up, I wanted to get top surgery before I even knew I wanted to transition all the way) - getting to the weight I want to be prior to surgery is my main focus at the moment. At least I know no matter what I want the the surgery, independent of starting T. I wouldn't want to get a hysto at the same time even if I knew what I wanted to do with T for sure, though, as I have never had surgery before and I am kinda squeamish about it.
It seems to be my impression that most people start T prior to getting top surgery? Feels like I will be in the minority, though I could be mistaken. I assume it's the cost combined with access to surgeons that makes starting T the first part of the process for most people. I figure at least this way I can see what it's like to be chest-lump free prior to facing some of the permanent T changes that make changing my mind difficult.
That's a good idea to get top surgery before starting T. I think if I had the money I would have done Top surgery first and worked on the other stuff to look more masculine. Sometimes I think T isn't worth it since I can't see the positive yet in T after 9 months. Had I seen some changes then maybe T would be worth it, be as of now, no.
Yeah, I know what you mean with the surgeries. I don't think I could have both done at the same time, but I dunno... you wouldn't have to think about getting a 2nd surgery done b/c you already did it. Unless you plan to get bottom surgery.
Quote from: bojangles on November 10, 2011, 01:41:18 PM
Sure, you can save some money by having 2 surgeries done at once. Whether anesthesia is most of the cost of surgery may depend on where you're having surgery. In my case, anesthesia was $500, the operating room was $700, and the surgery was $4500.
There is no way I would have chest surgery and a hysto at the same time.
Wow. I guess I have to look into that. How come not top surgery and a hysto at the same time? The pain of the chest and a hysto at the same time? I was thinking about that, having 2 surgeries and having 2 different pains at the same time. I dunno what I would do. Who knows if I'll ever have the money for top surgery. Maybe if I had the money for top surgery I never would have taken T and tried another way to be more masculine. Sometimes money makes you do things you shouldn't, like messing with your health when you could have gone a different route, ya know what I mean? I miss my thick hair and my smooth skin. Sometimes T isn't worth it if you have money to fix other things.
QuoteHow come not top surgery and a hysto at the same time? The pain of the chest and a hysto at the same time?
Yeah, pain and difficulty moving (am thinking of belly incision hysto). Amazing how much a simple sneeze or cough can hurt when you're healing. Can also pull stitches out.
I understand about the money stuff. Sometimes things have a way of working out. Hope it goes like that for you. Hang in there.
I could see doing top surgery and a lap procedure for the total hyster as being very possible. For the total time would be reasonable and there wouldn't be an abdomen incision.
Whether you could handle both procedures at once probably depends a lot on how much help you would have during recovery, and how much time you could take off work or school or whatever.
If you hurt too much or heal slowly or get infections, having had both surgeries at the same time could be pretty detrimental, so you'd have to plan it all pretty carefully.
Quote from: bojangles on November 10, 2011, 03:59:31 PM
Yeah, pain and difficulty moving (am thinking of belly incision hysto). Amazing how much a simple sneeze or cough can hurt when you're healing. Can also pull stitches out.
I understand about the money stuff. Sometimes things have a way of working out. Hope it goes like that for you. Hang in there.
I totally get that. Thanks.
My increased libido is the only thing that really bothers me significantly thus far. Seriously, it's insatiable.
I haven't noticed anything else too negative. I had problems with acne prior to transitioning, because I'm genetically predisposed to oily skin and had a lot of dysphoria induced anxiety. :3
It's only been just under a week on T, no cons so far, but I've already started to get more body hair (particularly on my hands and my upper thighs) and my sex drive is.. well.. yeah :P
Quote from: JasonMEW on November 11, 2011, 04:31:25 PM
My increased libido is the only thing that really bothers me significantly thus far. Seriously, it's insatiable.
I haven't noticed anything else too negative. I had problems with acne prior to transitioning, because I'm genetically predisposed to oily skin and had a lot of dysphoria induced anxiety. :3
Does it surprise you how most natal teenagers get through their day without assaulting either their fists/each other/other similarly shaped holes?
Quote from: Guantanamera on November 11, 2011, 10:08:13 PM
Does it surprise you how most natal teenagers get through their day without assaulting either their fists/each other/other similarly shaped holes?
The word "natal" paired with the word "teenagers" doesn't make much sense as it relates to what a person is at birth. Being a teenager at birth is obviously not what you mean here, so what do you mean? I'm not entirely sure I could speak for other teenagers or young adults either. Please explain further.
Quote from: JasonRX on November 12, 2011, 11:57:53 AM
The word "natal" paired with the word "teenagers" doesn't make much sense as it relates to what a person is at birth. Being a teenager at birth is obviously not what you mean here, so what do you mean? I'm not entirely sure I could speak for other teenagers or young adults either. Please explain further.
You're absolutely correct. In the mtf section, natal is a synonym of cis, XX or gg; It simply refers to someone who is cisgendered. What I meant by natal teenagers is men who are xy and were born male.
As for speaking for other teenage males, I think I can safely speak from mine and other experiences. When T is coursing through your blood at sonic speeds, anyone and anything becomes a potential sex partner. If you don't believe me, just paruse some of the male masturbation sites out there- If men took only a small portion of the time they spent devoted to masturbation and applied it to curing cancer we could solve the problem is a few weeks.
Quote from: Guantanamera on November 12, 2011, 04:20:47 PM
You're absolutely correct. In the mtf section, natal is a synonym of cis, XX or gg; It simply refers to someone who is cisgendered. What I meant by natal teenagers is men who are xy and were born male.
As for speaking for other teenage males, I think I can safely speak from mine and other experiences. When T is coursing through your blood at sonic speeds, anyone and anything becomes a potential sex partner. If you don't believe me, just paruse some of the male masturbation sites out there- If men took only a small portion of the time they spent devoted to masturbation and applied it to curing cancer we could solve the problem is a few weeks.
More than likely. When I talk about my increase in libido, I often compare it to a male who is beginning puberty and suddenly has an overwhelming amount of hormones coursing through his veins. It's very distracting and no doubt does it take away from some of my productivity. I am aware that if something exists, it has likely been considered by someone as a point of arousal. However, I get lonely pretty easily when I'm not in the comfort of others and find it difficult to find release even in extreme arousal, so that's mostly why my increased libido really bothers me. It's as if my lower half pulsates and longs to be satisfied...lately I feel that I understand why some people say that men can't "control themselves".
Quote from: JasonRX on November 13, 2011, 11:01:41 AM
More than likely. When I talk about my increase in libido, I often compare it to a male who is beginning puberty and suddenly has an overwhelming amount of hormones coursing through his veins. It's very distracting and no doubt does it take away from some of my productivity. I am aware that if something exists, it has likely been considered by someone as a point of arousal. However, I get lonely pretty easily when I'm not in the comfort of others and find it difficult to find release even in extreme arousal, so that's mostly why my increased libido really bothers me. It's as if my lower half pulsates and longs to be satisfied...lately I feel that I understand why some people say that men can't "control themselves".
IMHO All high school restrooms should have a cache of prawns and a bucket of lube. Within a year it would decrease the amount of teen pregnancies by half!
I find it very interesting that our experiences with regards to 'satisfaction' are nearly identical. I'm still Pre-HRT but I find that whenever I have sex that I'm not ever fully 'finished' (Sometimes I doubt whether I've ever had an orgasm in my life.) and am dissatisfied. However, when I assume a more feminine role, I find that while I don't hardly any physical pleasure, my mental enjoyment of the act increases dramatically. If you don't mind me asking, which role do you think you normally assume during sex? Do you think this impacts your satisfaction with the act itself?
Quote from: Guantanamera on November 13, 2011, 07:59:29 PM
IMHO All high school restrooms should have a cache of prawns and a bucket of lube. Within a year it would decrease the amount of teen pregnancies by half!
I find it very interesting that our experiences with regards to 'satisfaction' are nearly identical. I'm still Pre-HRT but I find that whenever I have sex that I'm not ever fully 'finished' (Sometimes I doubt whether I've ever had an orgasm in my life.) and am dissatisfied. However, when I assume a more feminine role, I find that while I don't hardly any physical pleasure, my mental enjoyment of the act increases dramatically. If you don't mind me asking, which role do you think you normally assume during sex? Do you think this impacts your satisfaction with the act itself?
I tend to assume a more masculine role and am pretty dominant in most cases, although I can be an occasional switch.
I would say this does affect how I feel during sex as it's really hard for me to get pleasure and also be dominant.
I also have fears of being feminized, since I used to have a partner who did that to me in the past and it actually delayed my transitioning because I became so insecure about myself. I feel like right now my body can't be pleasured by someone else the way I would like it to be, so it leaves me in a bit of a rut. Most of my satisfaction is mental at this point and time, as it usually comes from the thought of pleasuring another partner or a partner pleasuring me in a masculinizing way. I don't know if that answers your question entirely, but it is how I feel.
I've been on T since Sept. 27, 2010. I increased to a does big enough to have effect March, 2011.
Pros: Facial hair, lower voice(didn't drop much), body hair, teeennnyy tiiinnnyyy adams apple
Cons: high cholestorol, high heart rate, pre-diabetic, ass crack hair exploded(I could mow it with a lawnmower), acne, greasy skin.
The pros definitely outway the cons. Besides now that I've lost 20lbs maybe that cholosterol will go down.
Quote from: mcalistershaun on November 14, 2011, 12:57:55 PM
Cons: , ass crack hair exploded(I could mow it with a lawnmower)
oh Testosterone! You ruin more sexy men and trans women alike!
Monster!
In regards to ass hair - that is one thing that if I do get it, I will have a standing appointment with a beauty salon for waxing. That is one place I don't want hair.
Quote from: Ayden on November 14, 2011, 08:00:22 PM
In regards to ass hair - that is one thing that if I do get it, I will have a standing appointment with a beauty salon for waxing. That is one place I don't want hair.
I want to be a dolphin. I don't want hair anywhere.
I'm tired of passing as a kid, though, so I'm trying very hard to learn to love facial and body hair. I seriously considered skipping T and just doing top surgery, but I don't want to feel prepubescent for the rest of my life. Even if that means ass hair.
Dolphins do have hair.
Don't Shave That Hair!!!
I have recently made a mistake in my life, and I offer my story to you, that you may learn from my error. It all started, as many things do, with me having trouble ->-bleeped-<-ting.
No, I was not constipated; this was not a regularity problem but a matter of technique. It seems my ass-hair had grown to such a length that tiny grogans were constantly getting tied up in the matted jungle between my asscheeks. It led to much frustration, with me KNOWING that I still had something to drop, but unable to shake the tenacious turd loose from its butthair dwelling. Eventually I would have to do two things: either reach down with some paper and try to pinch off the lingering loaf (which required careful precision to avoid smearing the creature all over my rear, especially since I had no way of seeing what I was doing) or just go for broke, start wiping, and hope that I could remove all the leftover fecal matter before the toilet paper reached its Can't-Be-Flushed threshold.
I was contemplating this problem, when I had what seemed at the time to be a bright idea. "Hey! This is my butt and my butt-hair, right? So why don't I just eliminate all the hair, and then my grogans will flow out like beer from a keg!" I said to myself. It is a statement that will go down in history with a lot of other regretted statements. "How many Indians could there be?" said by General Custer. "Looks like a good day for a drive!" by JFK. "There! America On-Line now has complete Usenet access!" by some idiot system tech. Such was my anal shaving idea.
I performed the operation that night, with a cheap disposable razor and a towel to sit on. Starting from the bottom, and shaving from the crack to the cheeks, I began the arduous process of ridding my ass of hair. Occassionally, I would have to clean the razor of accumulated hair and miscellaneous slime, which I did by wiping it on the towel. Slowly, my twin mounds and the between-ravine began to resemble the hairless cheeks of a newborn baby. Finally, I wiped the razor one last time, and surveyed my work. The towel was covered with a pile of hair. My ass was smooth as ivory. I smiled, satisfied, thinking my troubles were over.
Little did I know.
I now have a great respect for anal-hair. Like everything in this world God created, it has its mighty purpose in existence. It was only after I had removed it that I started to learn how much I had been taking it for granted. For one, it provides friction. I learned this the next day, when I walked out into the sun heading for class. After climbing two flights of stairs and starting to sweat, I started to notice something unpleasant. The sweat was accumulating in my crack, and was causing the unpleasant sensation of my two asscheeks sliding past each other with every step. I thought about going to the bathroom and wiping it off, but had to get to class. Eventually, I thought, it would dry.
Unfortunately, it did dry, but only after mingling with the microscopic ->-bleeped-<-- molecules lingering around my brown starfish. When I stood up after class, my cheeks were stuck together with a slimy sticky ->-bleeped-<-/sweat combination. As I made my way back to my dorm, it started to itch. God-DAMN, did it itch! Felt like a swarm of ants was making its way up and down my crack. Fighting to keep from jamming my hand down there and scratching away, I rushed back to the dorm.
Unfortunately again, this exertion caused me to sweat, and when I finally reached my room, my cheeks were sliding back and forth against each other like a pair of horny cane-toads. I quickly dropped my pants, and attempted to dry my ass off by sticking it in front of a fan and spreading my cheeks. As I pulled the two mounds of flesh apart, a horrible stench burst free and filled the room. Every dog within a 4 block radius started to howl. I had it worst of all, as the ripe aroma of festering ->-bleeped-<-/sweat went into the fan and blew back into my face. I fought to keep from heaving. And as I sat there, fighting vomit, my ass cheeks spread and dripping, with the concentrated aroma of my body odor mixed with the tangy smell of my own ->-bleeped-<- blowing right into my face, I had only one thought: "It will be like this until the hair grows back. Weeks."
Later on, trying to deal as best I could, wiping my ass at every opportunity, I discovered another wonderful use for ass-hair - ventilation. I attempted to launch a fart, only to have it get stuck between my asscheeks. Apparently, with no hair, the two pink twins can get vacuum sealed together, and the result was a frustrating fart that slid up and down between my cheeks like a lost gerbil.
As if that wasn't enough, I am now enduring further torture. As anyone who has ever shaved anything knows, when hair is first growing in, it comes in as stubble. Imagine your ass having the texture of a brillo pad. Well, that is what I am dealing with now. It is a hellish torture, and there are many times when I just look out the window and contemplate why I shouldn't just jump out and get it all over with in one fleshy splat, rather than endure this constant agony.
Friends, DON'T SHAVE YOUR ASS-HAIR!
This is not my work this was on craigslist.
umm yeah. tell the guy on craigslist that showering is an option. i'm super disgusted. i have no hair back there and that doesn't keep me from being clean.
NOTE: Extremely personal opinion.
I see everything that comes with being on T as a pro because this is the life I wanted and should've had. Everything that comes is just an altered state of what should've been. While some things are bad, it's just about as normal as what would've happened had I been biologically male.
Felix: I know the feeling. I have some worries about the health effects of T and such, but I don't even pass as a young teenaged - pre-puberty guy. I guess I will just have to take the good with the bad. Though I can tell you if I could find a doctor to give me the top surgery right now, I would. I hate my chest and hips more than anything else.
Not all guys are hairy. There's plenty who aren't. It's all in your genetics.
Quote from: insideontheoutside on November 15, 2011, 07:16:51 PM
Not all guys are hairy. There's plenty who aren't. It's all in your genetics.
I read "genetics" as "genitals"
I'm looking forward to getting T for most of its benefits...
But now people are telling me I'll change my face!! I love my face the way it is!!!
Yep your face will become more masculine.
And that would be my opinion of a disadvantage!! XD Lol!