What do mainstream people think when they hear the word, "transsexual"?
What kind of images do they picture> etc..
Man in a dress.
Probably drag queens with a ->-bleeped-<-load of plastic surgery.
Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on November 06, 2011, 11:36:22 PM
Probably drag queens with a ->-bleeped-<-load of plastic surgery.
Really? I am surprised they don't imagine computer nerds with a penchant for renfairs. Those seem to be all the ones i've met and I've met Amanda Leopore. I mean the mainstream has to be aware of the actual TS community.
If by only reading the comments section online? Not suitable for reprint here. Than again neither are the comments on the stall walls of most truck stop crappers.
People get the jokes on TV. There that, jokes.
The last I checked no mobs where forming in the local gay areas of greater West Palm Beach.
Quote from: Sarah7 on November 06, 2011, 11:40:20 PM
The second. :P
Really... I think this:
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Not this:
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I wish I could think the latter more...
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 06, 2011, 11:37:58 PM
I mean the mainstream has to be aware of the actual TS community.
No. They really don't. We are a tiny tiny tiny minority who most people couldn't give a quarter of a ->-bleeped-<- about.
Sure, there is a little more awareness filtering out. But it's still only two stories: "Transgendered child - is this okay or not?" and "MY HUSBAND BECAME A WOMAN!"
Quote from: Sarah7 on November 06, 2011, 11:45:39 PM
No. They really don't. We are a tiny tiny tiny minority who most people couldn't give a quarter of a ->-bleeped-<- about.
Not something you see everyday... and I can spot someone who makes my aesthetic engine go haywire.
Add in pregnant man and you have all most all of the headlines.
Societies biggest fear of us is hardly ever recorded in a news story. The restroom issue and kids. I have yet to see a case of molestation there. Funny thing about gay guys also, I read of few, if any openly gay men molesting kids. I have the feeling their reaction is prolly the same as straight men... Hell no!
Quote from: Michelle. on November 06, 2011, 11:52:23 PM
Add in pregnant man and you have all most all of the headlines.
Societies biggest fear of us is hardly ever recorded in a news story. The restroom issue and kids. I have yet to see a case of molestation there. Funny thing about gay guys also, I read of few, if any openly gay men molesting kids. I have the feeling their reaction is prolly the same as straight men... Hell no!
One of my gay friends is probably a pedophile. It is creepy as hell.
I have the feeling 99.9% of gay men would love to have a chat with him if that turns out to be true.
Quote from: Michelle. on November 07, 2011, 12:12:15 AM
I have the feeling 99.9% of gay men would love to have a chat with him if that turns out to be true.
The gay guys whom I don't talk to anymore aren't talking to him anymore. Especially since my ex has two kids with his fruitfly. Gay men love kids...
He comes over to my house and he's like, "I wish you were a kinky twink again" and I am like, "bro, get over it"
Quote from: Sarah7 on November 06, 2011, 11:35:20 PM
Man in a dress.
^^This & Jerry Springer comes to mind. ::)
Quote from: Rukia87xo on November 07, 2011, 12:19:55 AM
^^This & Jerry Springer comes to mind. ::)
Don't forget Chris Crocker...... *shutters*
If I lived in a neighborhood straight out of a Jerry episode... I would move ASAP.
Quote from: Rukia87xo on November 07, 2011, 12:19:55 AM
^^This & Jerry Springer comes to mind. ::)
->-bleeped-<- that show. I swear it slowed down my coming out by about 2 years all on its own.
Quote from: Michelle. on November 07, 2011, 12:22:41 AM
If I lived in a neighborhood straight out of a Jerry episode... I would move ASAP.
Thats why I prefer South Beach to the rest of Florida.
Quote from: Sarah7 on November 07, 2011, 12:23:34 AM
<not allowed> that show. I swear it slowed down my coming out by about 2 years all on it's own.
You & me both sister. I used to get sick at my stomach watching that show thinking "is that really what i am?" made me so ashamed about being a transsexual.
I my world... -sex and perversion- mostly due to lack of education, not spite.
Axelle
Following the current season of the local version of "The X-Factor" - Paige Elliot Pheonix, FtM singer who came out on national TV.
Not only was it pretty obvious that it was a brave act , and would short circuit the gossip mags, he proved he was a great singer, in the style of Michael Hutchins and Jimmy Barnes. I think he did more in a few minutes to change perceptions than many realised at the time. Aussies love a battler who succeeds against the odds, and I get the impression the audience finally realised how hard transition can be, but that he really was just an ordinary bloke at heart.
Karen.
They think, "him, he, it, man, ->-bleeped-<-, gay, ->-bleeped-<-got, mentally ill, etc"
Someone who has had surgery to change their sex of birth.
Z
Rocky Horror! ;D
Kia Ora,
"What does mainstream society think when they hear the word "transsexual"?
::) A 'sexual orientation or fetish' of some sort !
Metta Zenda :)
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 06, 2011, 11:32:42 PM
What do mainstream people think when they hear the word, "transsexual"?
What kind of images do they picture> etc..
We did a survey on this very question on a few college campuses. A transsexual, to those who took the survey, was generally a crossdresser who had sex while dressed up.
i think most people think of men in dresses and ultra butch women who claim to be men. to be honest i used to think of transgender people as men in dresses but i didnt even know what trans was i just thought trans people where men who wear women's clothes. now i know better.
Gay men in drag... or at least that was my perception for many years. It was the #1 thing that made me hate myself because thats how I saw myself... yet I couldn't figure out why I felt like a woman and didn't want to have sex with another man as a man... go figure...
Once I finally accepted who I was, then I was able to look into the real meaning of 'transsexual'... IMHO transsexuals are the bravest people in the world.
- Hugs
Zaria
Quote from: Zaria on November 07, 2011, 01:14:14 PM
Gay men in drag... or at least that was my perception for many years.
Gay men like this:
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Those women are stunning... no matter what their orientation. I only wished I could look so good. And Mahsa, if that picture on the side is of you... you could add your picture there ;)
What I was trying to state is that most people have no idea what a transsexual is. They tend to use the umbrella insult '->-bleeped-<-' to describe them. Most people are just misinformed.
- Hugs
Zaria
Quote from: Zaria on November 07, 2011, 01:30:31 PM
Those women are stunning... no matter what their orientation. I only wished I could look so good. And Mahsa, if that picture on the side is of you... you could add your picture there ;)
Those are the modern day drag queens. Say goodbye to DIVINE.
Since I am from SF. I know that they are drags... I am basically them on hormones with minor ffs/boobs scheduled. My point is that many of them with the right makeup/hair/hormones could pass as beautiful ts women. Of course, they were all beautiful femme boys before who looked like "dykes"
On a side note...this is the power of cosmetics. Because of this...more people think this when they hear "transsexual" around here cuz the drags look better than ciswomen:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.cdn.turner.com%2Fcnn%2F2010%2FUS%2F12%2F15%2Fcalifornia.transgender.dmv%2Fstory.amber.yust.jpg&hash=be8b23b2c9c95f27c053a733ed545e4a95f44f42)
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Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 07, 2011, 12:00:50 AM
One of my gay friends is probably a pedophile. It is creepy as hell.
Pedophilia is something completely different from homosexuality, isn't it? So you have a pedophile friend instead of a gay friend, I guess?
Quote from: Zaria on November 07, 2011, 01:30:31 PM
What I was trying to state is that most people have no idea what a transsexual is.
They think these people:
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(I don't think they look good, at all)
Quote from: Michelle. on November 07, 2011, 12:12:15 AM
I have the feeling 99.9% of gay men would love to have a chat with him if that turns out to be true.
?????What do you mean by saying that????
Quote from: Dahlia on November 07, 2011, 01:40:43 PM
??????are you suggesties that 99.9% of gay men have pedo tendencies??
No, they want to kick his ass.
Though pedo stuff is linked to all kinds of sexual orientations and genders, it is straight men that seem to be the largest single group.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 07, 2011, 01:19:24 PM
Gay men like this:
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Gay men with breasts like that? The first two look like beautiful women, the third has the wrong 'contouring' make up, as you keep repeating, that makes her face looking a bit like a horse's.
And yes, we have a celeb post op MTF in Holland who is actually very goodlooking, stylish, very well made up, but 'behaves', moves, acts and speaks like a gay man.
So, Dutch people think of her when hearing about MTF's.
Despite numerous TV documentairies and programs, media articles including pics about TS, showing very masculine looking, speaking and acting MTF's....they still think of MTF's as some kind of 'gay'/drag queen.
It just doesn't get into their heads the vast majority of MTF in Holland used to be straight men and are masculine looking etc.
Quote from: Dahlia on November 07, 2011, 02:03:23 PM
Gay men with breasts like that? The first two look like beautiful women, the third has the wrong 'contouring' make up, as you keep repeating, that makes her face looking a bit like a horse's.
It just doesn't get into their heads the vast majority of MTF in Holland used to be straight men and are masculine looking etc.
Kylie Minono is pretty awesome. I don't think she looks horse like at all...
As for the last part of your statement...you mean masc lookin like these transwomen(
Look at the one on the left):
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Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 07, 2011, 02:07:22 PM
Kylie Minono is pretty awesome. I don't think she looks horse like at all...
As for the last part of your statement...you mean masc lookin like these transwomen(Look at the one on the left):
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< I don't think she looks horse like at all...>
Her cheekbones are very strange highlighted up to her temples. Looks very strange, like something lighter than the rest of her face light coloured plastic has been glued onto her cheekbones.
<As for the last part of your statement...you mean masc lookin like these transwomen(Look at the one on the left):>
Good grief, no! She looks more than ok in comparison to what I mean...
I mean like this (and the vast majority of Dutch MTF's are like this):
http://hellogoodbye.ncrv.nl/uitzendinggemist/fragment/hoe-gaat-nu-met-2-oktober (http://hellogoodbye.ncrv.nl/uitzendinggemist/fragment/hoe-gaat-nu-met-2-oktober)
Quote from: Dahlia on November 07, 2011, 02:14:44 PM
<As for the last part of your statement...you mean masc lookin like these transwomen(Look at the one on the left):>
Good grief, no! She looks more than ok in comparison to what I mean...
She looks extremely masculine... But the ones in the link are so much worse. I'm not one of these types who are fascinated/attracted to trans people. So I guess i am biased.
Scroll to the middle of the videolink I sent and play it. You'll see what I mean....
But yes, I fully agree: the most beautiful, feminine looking, stylish and stunning ones her in Amsterdam are gay men/DQ's. Most certainly not MTF's.
It's very, very rare if they are and if so, they're straight as a line.
weird,
I didn't know trans girls were judged on their dedication and/or validity based upon their appearance from other trans girls.
I must have missed that memo.
What does mainstream society think when they hear the word "transsexual"?
Amanda Lepore /shudders
Freak, ->-bleeped-<-got, unholy demon spawn etc etc...
I think it depends on which "mainstream society" we're dealing with. If it's folks who watch Fox News and Jerry Springer, they'll have a very different interpretation than folks who read the Nation and Progressive, listen to Pacifica Radio and don't watch TV at all. I've had positive experiences sharing about being trans with a number of supposed "mainstream" people. And the level of understanding is often better if those people have a trans family member or friend.
Z
Quote from: Zythyra on November 07, 2011, 06:06:21 PM
I think it depends on which "mainstream society" we're dealing with. If it's folks who watch Fox News and Jerry Springer, they'll have a very different interpretation than folks who read the Nation and Progressive, listen to Pacifica Radio and don't watch TV at all. I've had positive experiences sharing about being trans with a number of supposed "mainstream" people. And the level of understanding is often better if those people have a trans family member or friend.
Z
Zythyra has a good point here.. I also think location will have some influence on the way people think.. Australians are not Americans, who are not English, who are not French, and so on and so on..
If you use demographics, there aren't all that many NPR listeners out there compared to the more mainstream media listened to and watched by most of the world.
I have observed during my many years of trying to be normal, otherwise known as pretending to be a guy, once people feel safe about having to be PC that is when you find out what the really think; or at least say to go along with the herd perhaps?
When they hear transsexual, it essentially only applies to MtF, mostly a TV by their definition, some feaky guy in a dress (think Jerry Springer, et al), followed by a gorgeous drag queen or Lady-Boy that of course they "Could tell". Hell I had a hard time in Thailand playing is she or isn't she with our local sales guy! FtMs are just diesel dykes with penis envy. Besides, they are women and therefore do not really count to start with.
The shocking video of Chrissy Lee Polis getting the crap beat out of her and TIDOR serve as good reminders of how many "mainstream" people think of transsexuals. Only one little old lady out of all the people at McD's that were watching, stood up and did the right thing. We're the dogs that are OK to kick.
Quote from: JoanneB on November 07, 2011, 08:48:57 PM
The shocking video of Chrissy Lee Polis getting the crap beat out of her and TIDOR serve as good reminders of how many "mainstream" people think of transsexuals. Only one little old lady out of all the people at McD's that were watching, stood up and did the right thing. We're the dogs that are OK to kick.
That had nothing to do with her being transgender, but rather because she was a ghetto beezy talkin to a girl's man. That will get your ass kicked around here.
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Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 07, 2011, 09:24:36 PM
That had nothing to do with her being transgender, but rather because she was a ghetto beezy talkin to a girl's man. That will get your ass kicked around here.
We don't play like that around here girl! *snaps fingers* :laugh:
Quote from: Rukia87xo on November 07, 2011, 10:31:35 PM
We don't play like that around here girl! *snaps fingers* :laugh:
Just hate people getting political on certain things. The McD's incident sucked because someone was getting their ass kicked and no one stopped it.
Well, put it this way, what would they think even if they actually spent a long amount of time around here?
Just because here nobody cares if you're a trans lesbian helicopter pilot with 3 kids and gun and motorcycle collections who prefers baggy t-shirts and jeans instead of makeup and girly clothes, doesn't mean that doesn't seem odd to the average person.
I mean, the trans community just doesn't have the same social norms that mainstream society does. So if they don't know a lot, they're gonna think bad things, and if they do know a lot, they're probably still gonna think bad things.
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Most people think of drag queens..
"Mainstream' society does not think of transsexuals at all, as transsexuals are not mainstream. CDs might be, it's pretty common, but once you go TS, you're off the mainstream map.
Recently I watched a clip of Ace Ventura Pet Detective where Sean Young was supposed to be a transsexual. I couldn't believe that this movie had been made and mocked the transsexual in such a vulgar way. Whoever made that movie should really be ashamed of themselves and I think they should black list the movie. The scene where they "strip her down" to reveal a tucked penis is unbelievable to me now though at the time even though I didn't think it was funny I could see "what they were going for."
I think the average mainstream American and person around the world would think of a transsexual the way you would think of a flamboyant gay person: that is, if you are in an industry where it is to be expected it's fashionable. However in an ordinary life it is very creepy to many people. This is why so many people get marginalized.
That clip of Paige on OZ factor, is the kind of thing that needs to happen. More and more people need to speak out so that people realize that it is a medical condition. And the more people speak out, the more people will be willing to let transsexual children get the care they need at a young age and avoid a lot of what causes transsexuals to be judged so harshly in society, they have masculine features but present as a woman. I do think MtF have a harder go of it in that regard.
Quote from: Annah on November 07, 2011, 12:13:51 PM
We did a survey on this very question on a few college campuses. A transsexual, to those who took the survey, was generally a crossdresser who had sex while dressed up.
wow... really?
Quote from: Annah on November 07, 2011, 02:48:26 PM
weird,
I didn't know trans girls were judged on their dedication and/or validity based upon their appearance from other trans girls.
I must have missed that memo.
Right? Can someone forward me the memo?
Re: What does mainstream society think when they hear the word "transsexual"? Well here's what I've heard "freakshow" "The thing from the gay lagoon" "IT" "->-bleeped-<-" "heshe""eew" "thing" "Abomination" a few more but I don't remember. Obviously not any good thoughts, that's so sad :(
Honestly, even when I was deeply in the closet, when I heard the word transsexual I thought of Lou Reed, Rocky Horror Picture Show, and the DSM.
But then I didn't hear the word often or ever think about it much. There's really just not a lot of awareness of us in mainstream society.
Computer nerds... I am sure if people looked closer they would see most trans aren't my type but these. These are the only type I've ever really met, besides the transgender(Not DQ) performers I know.
They don't even look as good as performers. They look like people who simply don't give a crap. These are the types that my gay friends and I used to point out, "that's a man" in public:
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Why in the world would you point out a transsexual in public and say "That's a man." That's not a man, that's a woman. ??? ???
Quote from: mixie on November 08, 2011, 03:38:56 PM
Why in the world would you point out a transsexual in public and say "That's a man." That's not a man, that's a woman. ??? ???
Maybe cuz we were young and stupid and didn't know. I saw those types all the time and didn't learn later they were transsexuals. I just thought what was up with that man...
I wouldn't do that now...
Quote from: FullMoon19 on November 07, 2011, 10:19:14 PM
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Looks better than most genetic girls.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 08, 2011, 04:17:26 PM
Looks better than most genetic girls.
she does look fine, but people associate a transsexual with someone who is a sex object or like a prostitute. that's what i was getting across.
Quote from: FullMoon19 on November 08, 2011, 04:22:21 PM
she does look fine, but people associate a transsexual with someone who is a sex object or like a prostitute. that's what i was getting across.
Oh... Whats wrong with lookin like a prostitute? Rather be that than some dungeon dragon nerd...
Quote from: mixie on November 08, 2011, 03:38:56 PM
Why in the world would you point out a transsexual in public and say "That's a man." That's not a man, that's a woman. ??? ???
You proved that transsexual women do look different to genetic girls. I don't turn off my male objective side when looking at my own kind. No matter how crappy or good they look.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 08, 2011, 05:02:12 PM
Rather be that than some dungeon dragon nerd...
Maybe there's a reason for this? Spending your whole childhood and adolescence suppressing your personality, emotions, and everything about who you are, while trying your hardest to be seem normal, isn't exactly a good start to one's social development.
In school I was
severely bullied for behaving effeminately (and a crush on my best friend, but I denied it back then). Around the beginning of high school, I had
completely shut down my real personality and pretended to be as masculine as I possibly could. As I became more fake, I became more depressed. I began playing online games, because I could be a girl in those worlds, and guys would give me attention for being girly/cute rather than harass and attack me. Addicting? Yes! It was the only escape I had around my fundamentalist family and southern redneck peers.
In college, I guess you could say I was a reclusive nerd like you're describing until I began transitioning. I'm 23 now, straight, socially adjusted and as far opposite to my old self as possible.
Buuut... sometimes I still log into those games to talk to my old friends, who don't notice anything different about me. :laugh:
Quote from: Inanna on November 08, 2011, 07:46:50 PM
Maybe there's a reason for this? Spending your whole childhood and adolescence suppressing your personality, emotions, and everything about who you are, while trying your hardest to be seem normal, isn't exactly a good start to one's social development.
In school I was severely bullied for behaving effeminately (and a crush on my best friend, but I denied it back then). Around the beginning of high school, I had completely shut down my real personality and pretended to be as masculine as I possibly could. As I became more fake, I became more depressed. I began playing online games, because I could be a girl in those worlds, and guys would give me attention for being girly/cute rather than harass and attack me. Addicting? Yes! It was the only escape I had around my fundamentalist family and southern redneck peers.
In college, I guess you could say I was a reclusive nerd like you're describing until I began transitioning. I'm 23 now, straight, socially adjusted and as far opposite to my old self as possible. Buuut... sometimes I still log into those games to talk to my old friends, who don't notice anything different about me. :laugh:
But past a certain point it becomes questionable. I'd rather be out meeting people than playing WoW. I hardly ever play computer games, I have much more to do with my time.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 08, 2011, 05:02:12 PM
Oh... Whats wrong with lookin like a prostitute? Rather be that than some dungeon dragon nerd...
matter of perspective. I would rather look like a dungeons and dragons nerd than a prostitute any day of the week.
Quote from: Annah on November 08, 2011, 09:56:11 PM
matter of perspective. I would rather look like a dungeons and dragons nerd than a prostitute any day of the week.
So you'd rather be overlooked than looked over?
The Waitresses I Know What Boys Like (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UX2afsTqFI#)
speaking of prostitute, i think it's time for the waitresses.
Omg Mahsa may Gygax's spirit haunt you to your grave. Dungeons and Dragons is so cool! I'm jealous of that kind of nerd. They're usually smart, interesting, creative, and stable. Good people, and sometimes even very good looking people. Have you ever really met any?
Quote from: Felix on November 09, 2011, 10:40:08 AM
Omg Mahsa may Gygax's spirit haunt you to your grave. Dungeons and Dragons is so cool! I'm jealous of that kind of nerd. They're usually smart, interesting, creative, and stable. Good people, and sometimes even very good looking people. Have you ever really met any?
I have.
I prefer taking tequila shots and going to car shows.
Quote from: Felix on November 09, 2011, 10:40:08 AM
Omg Mahsa may Gygax's spirit haunt you to your grave. Dungeons and Dragons is so cool! I'm jealous of that kind of nerd. They're usually smart, interesting, creative, and stable. Good people, and sometimes even very good looking people. Have you ever really met any?
lol I loved Dungeons and Dragons when I was younger... now I tend to stick to video games :)
people at work think i am such a nerd they call me 'mega mind'
well in my opinion i consider The terms tranSexual and transGender very different terms, sexual being in the title implies its an orientation or fetish or something of the like which i think has nothing to do with me but i think its more suitable for cross dressers and such Transgender however is for those of us who are indeed a woman or man with a birth defect, as in my and my fellow sisters' cases a transwoman having a female brain, the nervous system, and blood and such but her gentials are wrong/don't match up and the same goes for a transmen.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 09, 2011, 12:04:28 PM
I have.
I prefer taking tequila shots and going to car shows.
Oooh. Urk. I like whiskey, vodka, gin, whatever, but tequila makes me queasy. And cars...I dunno. I'd love to be a mechanic, but at the same time, I want to save the world and use bikes and trains.
How about Monopolowa and NBA games? I like that very much.
Quote from: Felix on November 09, 2011, 10:43:52 PM
Oooh. Urk. I like whiskey, vodka, gin, whatever, but tequila makes me queasy. And cars...I dunno. I'd love to be a mechanic, but at the same time, I want to save the world and use bikes and trains.
How about Monopolowa and NBA games? I like that very much.
Wha? If I want to get my masculinity on...I hit a gay bar.
Nothing is more masculine than some gay men.
No way. Vodka isn't masculine, it's just not tequila. And NBA is just not car shows.
Quote from: x_momoXpanda_x on November 09, 2011, 04:14:02 PM
well in my opinion i consider The terms tranSexual and transGender very different terms, sexual being in the title implies its an orientation or fetish or something of the like which i think has nothing to do with me but i think its more suitable for cross dressers and such Transgender however is for those of us who are indeed a woman or man with a birth defect, as in my and my fellow sisters' cases a transwoman having a female brain, the nervous system, and blood and such but her gentials are wrong/don't match up and the same goes for a transmen.
This is how I interpreted and used the term "transgender" for such a long time until I realized I was getting it wrong. I consider a transgender a person with a physical birth defect that is the opposite of their true gender.
But I was told the proper term was transsexual. Oh well. I sort of prefer transgender because transsexual sounds like it has something to do with sexuality.