I've noticed a trend where new transgender girls enjoys wearing clothing that is geared (or designed) for younger girls in mind. I also see this with their bedrooms, their jewelry, and their other fascinations (Hello Kitty, Strawberry shortcake, tinkerbell, winnie the poo, etc etc).
I had a transgender friend invite me to her house today and she gave me a tour of her house and her bedroom looked like a bedroom an eleven year old girl would love.
Is this phenomena because they are trying to relive their childhood? Is it something else?
I noticed that too.
I love anything with Mickey or Minnie Mouse on it though, i don't care what it is, i'll buy it.
Lol that's a good question Annah. I have to admit i do this too but not to the extent that some ts do.
I have a few stuffed animals (hello kitty plush bears etc) and have a bunch of girly stickers on my mirror but that's about it. I remember when i was going through transition years ago in the beginning i did go way overboard on that kind of stuff but eventually matured.
I dress more like that popular girl in all those high school movies.
Kia Ora Annah,
::) I know that the onset of HRT for some can generate a second puberty - wanting what one did'nt have[over compensating]...Some grow out of it quickly [when the euphoria wears off and reality hits home] for others it can linger for a long time... just look at some 50+ years of age late transitioners, mini skirts/dresses, crop tops, fishnet stockings, 3-5inch heels, the works...Whatever turns one on-turns one on-who am I to pass judgement ...
However in society which for the most part is quite conservative when it comes to dress sense, dressing in such a manner attracts attention- no doubt some extroverted trans like the attention-so no problem, and for those that don't they[due to social pressure] will eventually conform to the norm when it comes to age appropriate dress...
In a nutshell.......I put it down to two things "HRT" and if not on HRT the freedom that comes from true 'self' acceptance, finally being free from the constrains of birth-sex approved dress styles, but over compensating like a kid deprived of sweet things being let loose in a candy store...
Metta Zenda :)
I've seen this, but not commonly. I have a friend who's about my age, and she dresses much younger than I would. I think maybe it's partly due to wanting to experience things she missed out on growing up. Maybe partly it's also just the joy and exuberance of finally getting to be her true self.
Quote from: Zenda on November 11, 2011, 04:48:07 PM
just look at some 50+ years of age late transitioners, mini skirts/dresses, crop tops, fishnet stockings, 3-5inch heels, the works...Whatever turns one on-turns one on-who am I to pass judgement ...
I thought a lot of them dressed like that because they used to be crossdressers?
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 11, 2011, 04:52:40 PM
I thought a lot of them dressed like that because they used to be crossdressers?
Kia Ora Mahsa,
::) Sadly this is how many in society view them....I often wonder why they don't just check out cis-women of a similar age, size and complexion/skin tone and use them as a sounding board when it come to what type of clothing would suit them [they 'should' be wearing] 'if ' they 'really' want to fit in...It's not rocket science... ;)
::) But as I've mentioned before each to their own...whatever turns on one -turns one on-so be it ....
BTW I'm just off to buy a nice pair of 6 inch heels and a leather 'mini' mini skirt[some might call it a wide leather belt] I saw in a sale to match the fishnet stocking and pink crop top[boob tube]I bought yesterday...[ :icon_yikes: It's a joke people-I'm quite the 'plain Jane' when it comes to dress sense] ;)
Metta Zenda :)
Quote from: Zenda on November 11, 2011, 05:12:34 PM
::) Sadly this is how many in society view them....I often wonder why they don't just check out cis-women of a similar age, size and complexion/skin tone and use them as a sounding board when it come to what type of clothing would suit them [they 'should' be wearing] 'if ' they 'really' want to fit in...It's not rocket science... ;)
They wouldn't listen. Truth is, they were presenting as men for too long and don't know what ciswomen society expects. It borders on fantasy for them and LOLs for the rest of us. I mean they can't control their physical attributes, but they can at least calm it the hell down.
This is an interesting thought.
By the way, looking good there Colleen.
Your basic street fashion for people well on in years is pretty kid-based. Baseball hats, shorts, converse tennis shoes, band t-shirts, hoodies seem to be standard for men, even when they are 50-60 years old, and that's exactly what they were wearing when they were 15. (Same band even). Jeans (designer or not), track outfits, fleece, Uggs and all sorts of bad fashion ideas for women too, who should be old enough to know better - so talking with the cis-chicks ain't going to help a lot. (Not that I'm any better, Giants hat, Puma shoes, jeans, band shirt and hoodie is what I'm wearing today). And, true to form I follow people home and here they are, doing well and all that, and the house/apartment looks pretty much exactly like it did when they were in college. (I do better on that regard, my place looks like adults live there most of the time - but I never did any of that when I was young either, so I'm keeping to form). So perhaps it's not so much a second childhood, as the first one never ended - may you stay, forever young and all that.
So, in that they have changed, they might be getting the stuff they really wanted when they were young (No, I don't want a room done in G.I. Joe, I want My Little Pony - or vice-versa) but they are keeping with a general trend that seems to go far beyond trans persons. I just never had very commercial tastes (yeah, I hate Disney, well everything after 1960 or so) and never went that route, preferring my own uniquely bad taste based largely on stuff I find.
THANK you, Spacial!
@Masha: I "presented as male" for far too long myself(55 years), but I get lots of compliments on how I dress, even from cis-women.
Quote from: Colleen Ireland on November 11, 2011, 05:34:44 PM
THANK you, Spacial!
@Masha: I "presented as male" for far too long myself(55 years), but I get lots of compliments on how I dress, even from cis-women.
Yeah, you dress good.
I'm 25 and i do wear clothes that are geared more for girls in their early 20's but i don't have any trouble pulling that look off so no biggie.
Most of my clothes are from Forever21 or Urban Outfitters. :)
Kia Ora,
::) It would seem F2Ms don't have this kind of problem when it comes to dress sense...But I could be wrong....
Metta Zenda :)
I love all of those and more, especially Strawberry Shortcake. I don't dress that way at all, but I really enjoy those things at home. Besides not having grown up as a girl :'( I love all the pink and cuteness. I have nearly all of the Strawberry Shortcake DVDs, I ripped the Strawberry Jams CD to put on my iPod, and I have most of the Nintendo and Playstation games. I also have Little Mermaid games for Nintendo and Playstation. I would love to be a Strawberryland girl ;D
Quote from: Alicia on November 11, 2011, 07:08:27 PM
I love all of those and more, especially Strawberry Shortcake. I don't dress that way at all, but I really enjoy those things at home. Besides not having grown up as a girl :'( I love all the pink and cuteness. I have nearly all of the Strawberry Shortcake DVDs, I ripped the Strawberry Jams CD to put on my iPod, and I have most of the Nintendo and Playstation games. I also have Little Mermaid games for Nintendo and Playstation. I would love to be a Strawberryland girl ;D
are u in your early 20s? Just curious.
Honestly I think the phenomenon is a mix of compensation for the way they wish they could've lived as a youth, and how they think it would be fun to behave as a female. I'm pretty girly (quite possibly the most feminine of all my classmates in a cosmetology school), but I'm not into pink everything, forever 21, hello kitty, etc. In fact, at 30, I don't see many, if any cis women that are walking around with hello kitty gear.
Plus, (to me) many gay men I have seen overdo the whole girly thing, and you can tell it's not 100% them. I see it as an easy way to say "I'm gay". That's not to say there aren't genuinely effeminite gay men, or very girly trans women. I've met girly gay guys and transwomen that are 100% genuinely theirselves. However there is a certain aura people put off that makes you think they're not being theirselves.
It's as if people try too hard
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on November 11, 2011, 08:35:30 PM
Plus, (to me) many gay men I have seen overdo the whole girly thing, and you can tell it's not 100% them. I see it as an easy way to say "I'm gay". That's not to say there aren't genuinely effeminite gay men, or very girly trans women. I've met girly gay guys and transwomen that are 100% genuinely theirselves. However there is a certain aura people put off that makes you think they're not being theirselves.
It's as if people try too hard
Those guys freaked me out when I used to go to gay bars. Feminine was just what I was... I didn't go, 'OMG!!!! FABULOUS.... ETC". When I meet men, I play up more the idea that I am into UFC and football than fashion. They just assume it's there already.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 11, 2011, 08:54:32 PM
Those guys freaked me out when I used to go to gay bars. Feminine was just what I was... I didn't go, 'OMG!!!! FABULOUS.... ETC". When I meet men, I play up more the idea that I am into UFC and football than fashion. They just assume it's there already.
Exactly! Geaux Saints! lol! I even wear a Saints jacket. I think the people in subject in this thread would approach anything even closely considered masculine with a crucifix. Maybe they're trying to bottle it up because they hated that they "had" to like that stuff? IDK. The OMG FABULOUS with a forced lisp is 1 played out, 2 annoying as hell.
Be yourself, and if you are being yourself and you go OMG FABULOUS with a lisp, then it'll seem more natural and tolerable because you wont be acting like somebody you are not!
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on November 11, 2011, 11:39:17 PM
Exactly! Geaux Saints! lol! I even wear a Saints jacket. I think the people in subject in this thread would approach anything even closely considered masculine with a crucifix. Maybe they're trying to bottle it up because they hated that they "had" to like that stuff? IDK. The OMG FABULOUS with a forced lisp is 1 played out, 2 annoying as hell.
my femininity isn't an act. I've always been super femme, sorry if people here don't like it. But I'd rather watch UFC or build something. I am not super masculine though.
Just balanced.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 11, 2011, 11:43:53 PM
my femininity isn't an act. I've always been super femme, sorry if people here don't like it. But I'd rather watch UFC or build something. I am not super masculine though.
Just balanced.
Pretty much here too. Some people transition or whatever supposedly to be themselves, but end up just distancing themselves from who they once were, and not truly being themselves. If I had to guess, they don't walk around happy. Instead they live in constant fear of being found out or labeled as a guy.
However, I don't like UFC. I like the Saints and video games! And watching Mike Tyson knock ppl out rofl!
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on November 11, 2011, 11:47:48 PM
Pretty much here too. Some people transition or whatever supposedly to be themselves, but end up just distancing themselves from who they once were, and not truly being themselves. If I had to guess, they don't walk around happy. Instead they live in constant fear of being found out or labeled as a guy.
However, I don't like UFC. I like the Saints and video games! And watching Mike Tyson knock ppl out rofl!
I think some of them force it too much. Saying stuff a woman might say and what not... to me, I am the same person. the appearance merely changed.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 11, 2011, 11:55:49 PM
I think some of them force it too much. Saying stuff a woman might say and what not... to me, I am the same person. the appearance merely changed.
Likewise. When I transition, it'll be because my appearance finally matches my brain. Nearly the only things that will change will be my clothes, my voice, my name, and me responding to female pronouns.
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on November 12, 2011, 12:12:16 AM
Likewise. When I transition, it'll be because my appearance finally matches my brain. Nearly the only things that will change will be my clothes, my voice, my name, and me responding to female pronouns.
I use the phrase 20% new parts and it's true. But if I remove the makeup, stop the hormones, and shave my head...I'd be that ultra feminine little Ricky again.
XY on the surface, XX in my head.
I like pink, strawberry shortcake, the tinkerbell movies, my little pony, kittens, and stuffed animals.
But, the thing is, I always have.. my entire life.
Of course, I also like a WIDE range of other stuff too ... like the color blue, war games, science / history channel, action movies.... and, again, always have.
So, am I "trying" to be a boy or a girl?
Or, maybe, just some things are fun. "Girly" stuff can be cute and innocent and a nice break from everything. Stuffed animals just feel great (better than a pillow). Yup, I like laying on soft stuff when I am in bed, unless that isn't something an adult should like? :P
I love metal, South Park, gi joe, transformers, dinosaurs...
I begin to wonder if male and female are just defined by demeanor when it comes to personality?
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 12, 2011, 01:40:48 AMI begin to wonder if male and female are just defined by demeanor when it comes to personality?
DING DING DING DING
We got a winner here.
Go ahead young lady pick your prize from the top shelf.
I love stuffed animals
I don't dress out of my age or any other bracket.
I've been called a "fashion girl"
Quote from: heatherrose on November 12, 2011, 01:54:50 AM
DING DING DING DING
We got a winner here.
Go ahead young lady pick your prize from the top shelf.
I love stuffed animals
I don't dress out of my age or any other bracket.
I've been called a "fashion girl"
Awww thanks. But I want the Hawaiian trip. Margaritaville damnit.
I'm pretty sure that Margaritaville is on another ocean vis-a-via Hawaii.
Quote from: tekla on November 12, 2011, 06:20:40 AM
I'm pretty sure that Margaritaville is on another ocean vis-a-via Hawaii.
Jamaica?
The World Tour, is a top shelf prize for the next round.
Margaritaville is anywhere a Parrothead-ish individual wiggles their toes in the sand, while breathing salt air.
The freshwater variation being, The Redneck Yacht Club.
Quote from: heatherrose on November 12, 2011, 03:55:50 PM
The freshwater variation being, The Redneck Yacht Club.
I want to meet a guy who has a boat and can take me boating in the SF bay. I am really ->-bleeped-<-ing pissed today.... Just sick of my boyfriend and stuff. Sick of being caged.
If a man did that to me as a boy, I would have kicked his ass...and broken his ribs.
Why wait on someone else, they sell boats all day long.
And.... what's stopping you from kicking his ass and breaking his ribs now,
if that is something you feel you need to do and he deserves it?
...aside from legalities.
I've noticed it. I want to relive my childhood as a girl, as horrifying an experience as that sounds, but I don't feel the need to be the pretty little princess in pink 24/7. In fact, I don't believe I ever wanted to be a princess either. :-\
In the beginning, I was all about the lace and finery it was and is fun
but I found it got in the way of who I am on a day to day basis.
I believe if I had been born presenting the proper primary sexual characteristics,
I would have driven my Mama absolutely batty, as I played with trucks on the dirt pile.
"You are who you are,
that's alright with me
but I am who I am,
that's all I can be.
Trace Adkins - Rough & Ready (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUXxWlkom-g#)
I haven't noticed it, but I'm not one to pay attention to minute details such as peoples clothes. I don't think age matters how someone dresses to the extent where its not distasteful or hurting anyone. Also perhaps people just like what they like or it could be a mixture of both trying to experience childhood again. As for me I wear lolita because I love the clothes and anything associated with it. My room is filled with things like that.
I honestly don't know many other transpeople IRL, but I do know I love anything hello kitty, especially the gothy hello kitty stuff they had at haloween.
It does make sense that people want to relive their childhoods that they missed, but plenty of 20 something people have hello kitty stuff, so I don't see my obsessions as too strange.
My life was detoured at puberty and so after i transitioned i wanted to regrow and experience that little girl. But for me it meant being non sexual. The following is something i wrote back in 2001
DR Bushong = http://www.ren.org/Bushong.html (http://www.ren.org/Bushong.html)
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Subject: Re: Need some advice
From: danielegrl@aol.com (DANIELEgrl)
Date: 8/29/01 8:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>>>> I question that I am a man, because my
thought processes are just so different and feminine in most cases.
Please gimme some advice, I'm really lost here. I have no idea what to do.
I appreciate anything you all have to offer, thanks
Mr. Anonymous<<<<
First your a minor. So this post is to your parents. Please share it with them.
Be careful to think your transsexual cause your caring and such. To me it was
that my hormonal differences were too dramatic after experiencing sexuality.
When I got chemically castrated that was the best thing that happened to me. it
took me back to pre-puberty. The time before sexuality. The time when I felt I
was a sister like my sisters. Try some spiranolactone which can reduce your
chemistry to nil without permanency to your reproductive abilities.
Then when your hormonally female you will know that it is only the mind that
can be stimulated which can trigger your concern for sexuality and love. Many
never understand this concept. DR Bushong tried to explain this in his
writings.( however, I don't care for his style of gender clinics which I saw
while I was in Tampa.) Many haven't grasp the need to go back mentally to
pre-puberty. They have a males view of what a woman is. I have been by a fluke
of nature been able to not be sexual for a while and being post op has been
even a greater advantage. I am not saying I am right and what others will say
are wrong. I am just putting things together in a logical perspective. Not
being sexual and being post op for almost 3 years has allowed my little girl to
be nurtured. The world is a tough place. My little girl is as it was
pre-puberty. This spiranolactone will stop the secondary sexual
characteristics from your testis which will help you to experience that which
you feel.
However, this lack of male hormones will also keep you from feeling male too.
It will stop your male puberty which then if taken long enough will allow you
to grow mentally as a female.
Males have testis which produce a secondary testosterone source. Females
usually have a specific protein on their X chromosome that converts their
testosterone like hormones produced by the ovaries into estradiol. This
estradiol is what grows breast. So you won't grow breast but you won't have the
secondary sexual characteristics from the testis as 200 mg a day of
spiranolactone will surely cut that to nil.
Ask your Mom about trying this. It will only last as long as you keep taking
it.
There is much more than what I have shared. I just wanted to share this
minuscule point. Seek a professional counselor, but beware of the money
grubbing type.
Many men are soft and gentle and kind and being or feeling female should be
something that started during the first 5 years. I remember being told I can't
take baths with my sisters anymore. I was so upset. What was different from me?
My sisters giggled my Mom spanked my butt and I spent many years confused. Then
that dreaded testosterone kicked in a wreaked havoc on my life. Anyway I hope
you get the picture. don't make up things be honest or you will eventually
suffer greater pain...
I hope i have offered a clinical view point. bye love Danielle
.............It takes a girl to be able to grow into a womyn. .....
.... Nothing else can become a womyn.....................
I just wanted to report on the developement of my SRS / GRS that i had 4 years ago dec 8th 1998 with DR Toby Meltzer. I have stayed celibate and a virgin. I have allowed myself to find my inner child / little girl before using my neovagina. During this time my mental sex has developed into something which is wonderfully healthy. I when thinking of love have developed a wonderful natural lubrication with the mental sex chain of command system. Here the mind thinking of love stimulates the hypothalamus which stimulates the pituitary to create oxytosin which stimulates the adrenal cortex to produce coitercoisteroids which causes my cowpers gland to secrete a lot of clear sticky fluid...........................
Now i know this is a touchy subject for sharing but i think it is important to understand this function. Many jump from an adult male body running on testosterone to one running on estrogen and into adult female and never allow themselves a chance to develop their little girl / inner child. The little girl needs time to grow and mature. Little girls don't have sex and this is why i didn't as i wanted to experience as much of the little girl as i could before being tempted to just have sexual relationships...................
Little girls grow into big girls / women. I think it is very important to find that little girl and let her grow. Many girl are teases and do dress to impress and tease and attract. This is an important part of transitioning. Just getting SRS / GRS and testing out the new neovagina like a new toy is not giving oneself the time to grow. It causes many to get hardened over misunderstood relationships due to their new equipment / new understanding of being the woman they are. Eating right and keeping a low body fat content is also very important as i have done research to find that animals that are carrying lowered amounts of body fat tend to be healthier when developing their adrenals thus their sexuality. This is important as the body needs to be healthy to have all the right body functions to help when the time comes for a person to have a healthy sex life..........................
Many times touching too quickly another person makes a person mentally dependent on touch as a means of stimulation for their sexuality. However, being a tease and growing your mental sexuality allows for a healthy production of the adrenals and the chain of command which helps to produce this natural wetness from the cowpers gland...........................
I know many so called genetic women get dry over time after their relationships go past the honeymoon stage and sex becomes a choir and not a mental joy but just a physical experience.........................
I am open to hearing from others about the developement of their mental sexuality. Please respond in detail. thanks and bye ........
............. MY REASONING AND INSPIRATION DUE TO MY HEART FELT FEELINGS.............
............. http://www.ren.org/Bushong.html (http://www.ren.org/Bushong.html)
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A QUOTE FROM DR BUSHONG:
"After years or decades of living, working and building within their male persona, it is often too "expensive" to give up the life, perks, family, etc., one has built up--in order to go back to basics and have an emotionally 12 year old girl grow up--and live in a once male 40+ year old body."
PS: I am still a virgin and now 14 yrs old post op and mentally and physically capable for true love if its meant to be.
Once HRT started to work and I entered 'second puberty' I noticed that I was acting like a 15 year old again, so decided to go with it consciously, and see if I could speed up the process. At one point I had a real setback and regressed to a 12 year old. I just let the tears flow and hugged the teddy bear I had kept as a souvenir of my daughter, and was able to get over it fairly quickly.
I was back to feeling like a 15 year old within a few days, and since then have accelerated the process, so that I don't have the feeling that I missed out on my teenage years. I now feel like an adult again, but of indeterminate age. It was sort of like a rebirthing, but starting from the point where GID caused me to start to have problems.
As for the way I dress, I had a good friend (who is a lesbian) say I had great legs, so I will keep wearing short(ish) skirts! I am into a 60's Mod/ hippy style at the moment, so anything I wear will be consistent with those, not current teen styles.
Karen.
I don't think I'm super little girlish but I do have a few things I would have love to have when I was a kid.
My mother passed away and she had some dolls she picked up back in the 80s to give to her daughter or grand daughter if there would ever have been any. *A few rainbow bright, and cabbage patch kids, still in the boxes.* But then... I also still have some of my favorite transformers as well.
Needless to say I see it as my mom bought them for her daughter and I think I'm the closest thing to her daughter she ever had.
Quote from: justmeinoz on November 14, 2011, 05:40:48 AM
As for the way I dress, I had a good friend (who is a lesbian) say I had great legs, so I will keep wearing short(ish) skirts! I am into a 60's Mod/ hippy style at the moment, so anything I wear will be consistent with those, not current teen styles.
Karen.
yeah, i wear shorter skirts a lot too. It's just the fashion around here...even with women my age. However, I don't wear shorter skirts with hello kitty prints or pikachus :)
A friend of mine asked me the other day "so why do you wear skirts all the time?" (She knows I'm transgender). I responded "Well, why do you wear pants all the time?" She said "because I was forced to wear skirts all the time growing up and I hate them now." And I said "Well, there's your answer! Just flip the clothing around."
Then I said "I do wear jeans once or twice a week" lol
There are many older women who dress on the younger / more athletic style.
I wear shorter skirts sometimes but they do complicate things playing guitar sitting down.
On the juvenalia side, I'm pretty innocent, although I do have a smiley stuffed flower on my desk.
It makes me happy and I give myself leave to do that.
Quote from: Renate on November 14, 2011, 08:20:13 AM
On the juvenalia side, I'm pretty innocent, although I do have a smiley stuffed flower on my desk.
It makes me happy and I give myself leave to do that.
I find nothing wrong with that. I was talking about...well...for example, I know of a trans girl who has hello kitty everything. Bumper stickers, backpack, knee socks, stickers, folders, hair bows, candy...everything is hello kitty. I just noticed this trend among 40 year old transwomen more so than 40 year old ciswomen.
But, then again, I know of a man in his 40s who has star trek figurines in their packages nailed across the mid section of the wall that goes completely around his living room with a Klingon Suit in his closet. So it could mean something totally different?
Ok, I do have a Hello Kitty sandwich container that I bought at Target for $1.
I meant it as tongue-in-cheek response to the phenomena that you mentioned.
I have been told that I dress like a primary school teacher.... i don't even own a mini-skirt, and when i wear a short dress i always wear it with leggings. Thing is, still being in my 20s, i can't help but feel i SHOULD be dressing young, hehe. Maybe if i can drop enough weight by next summer I can walk around dressed like a tart and make up for lost time. ;)
Tams x
Annah, is your friend Asian by any chance? :P Hello Kitty for some reason appeals to east Asians immensely... (and to a smaller extent Americans, whereas it tends to not appeal to other Westerners)
In Asia, Hello Kitty is not a purely teenage thing. There are Hello Kitty laptop computers (real ones! not toys), Hello Kitty microwaves, Hello Kitty cars, Hello Kitty vibrators (!), even a Hello Kitty taxi fleet in Yokohama (just west of Tokyo). It's absolutely normal for young Asian women around 25 to 30 years old to love Hello Kitty. I am one of those :P but I have noticed it appeals to non-Asians a lot less...
And I admit that I am one of those wanting to live the teenage years I have missed out. If I think about how I usually act, I act about six or seven years younger than my actual age. I'm not really sure why; I am not deliberately doing it. But I'm happy with it, and happy with people treating me as if I were six or seven years younger ;)
Quote from: apple pie on November 14, 2011, 09:35:55 AM
Annah, is your friend Asian by any chance? :P Hello Kitty for some reason appeals to east Asians immensely... (and to a smaller extent Americans, whereas it tends to not appeal to other Westerners)
In Asia, Hello Kitty is not a purely teenage thing. There are Hello Kitty laptop computers (real ones! not toys), Hello Kitty microwaves, Hello Kitty cars, Hello Kitty vibrators (!), even a Hello Kitty taxi fleet in Yokohama (just west of Tokyo). It's absolutely normal for young Asian women around 25 to 30 years old to love Hello Kitty. I am one of those :P but I have noticed it appeals to non-Asians a lot less...
And I admit that I am one of those wanting to live the teenage years I have missed out. If I think about how I usually act, I act about six or seven years younger than my actual age. I'm not really sure why; I am not deliberately doing it. But I'm happy with it, and happy with people treating me as if I were six or seven years younger ;)
Speaking of Asian fashion, I actually learned the other day that the Real Life Experience-requirement have now been modified and that
all MTF's must dress like on the following pic for atleast 2 years if they want to be approved.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftotallycoolpix.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F24032011_lolita_fashion%2Flolita_003.jpg&hash=1cbdab0ea56d24fd2c6891e9469f6f41fa1323b1)
LOL ;D I propose an extra amendment that the dresses be completely pink also :P
eh, I like basic tunic tops, and skirts (though not together), and the kicker is I still think suits are the best in professional formal wear. I have a frock coat suit that I love ^_^
Quote from: The Passage on November 12, 2011, 04:42:27 PM
I've noticed it. I want to relive my childhood as a girl, as horrifying an experience as that sounds, but I don't feel the need to be the pretty little princess in pink 24/7. In fact, I don't believe I ever wanted to be a princess either. :-\
That's sort of what I want. The girl part of course I want and want a lot. But there is much more to my childhood I would also want to be better than what it was.
Quote from: Annah on November 11, 2011, 03:45:59 PM
I've noticed a trend where new transgender girls enjoys wearing clothing that is geared (or designed) for younger girls in mind. I also see this with their bedrooms, their jewelry, and their other fascinations (Hello Kitty, Strawberry shortcake, tinkerbell, winnie the poo, etc etc).
I had a transgender friend invite me to her house today and she gave me a tour of her house and her bedroom looked like a bedroom an eleven year old girl would love.
Is this phenomena because they are trying to relive their childhood? Is it something else?
I haven't started this but I have thought about it. Hello kitty and Barbie's. lol. I posted a little while back about me trying to get passed the idea of wearing things that I wanted to wear when I was younger. It has been a hard one for me I think that is partially why I collect stuff with butterflies on them also.
Quote from: Bishounen on November 14, 2011, 09:57:23 AM
Speaking of Asian fashion, I actually learned the other day that the Real Life Experience-requirement have now been modified and that all MTF's must dress like on the following pic for atleast 2 years if they want to be approved.
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If people dressed like that outside of cosplaying...I'd have a LOLfest.
Sorry, but people should dress like adults and follow their own cultural guidelines IMHO. It's not high school anymore.
Quote from: Annah on November 14, 2011, 08:26:19 AM
I find nothing wrong with that. I was talking about...well...for example, I know of a trans girl who has hello kitty everything. Bumper stickers, backpack, knee socks, stickers, folders, hair bows, candy...everything is hello kitty. I just noticed this trend among 40 year old transwomen more so than 40 year old ciswomen.
But, then again, I know of a man in his 40s who has star trek figurines in their packages nailed across the mid section of the wall that goes completely around his living room with a Klingon Suit in his closet. So it could mean something totally different?
While I've seen 40 yr old (usually socially ... unfortunate) men wearing / worshiping star wars gear, I have never... EVER seen a 40+ yr old cis woman having anything to do with hello kitty unless she was getting it for her daughter. The oldest I've ever seen a cis woman having to do anything with hello kitty was early 20s.
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on November 14, 2011, 11:51:25 PM
While I've seen 40 yr old (usually socially ... unfortunate) men wearing / worshiping star wars gear, I have never... EVER seen a 40+ yr old cis woman having anything to do with hello kitty unless she was getting it for her daughter. The oldest I've ever seen a cis woman having to do anything with hello kitty was early 20s.
ahhhh fanboys.
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on November 14, 2011, 11:51:25 PM
While I've seen 40 yr old (usually socially ... unfortunate) men wearing / worshiping star wars gear, I have never... EVER seen a 40+ yr old cis woman having anything to do with hello kitty unless she was getting it for her daughter. The oldest I've ever seen a cis woman having to do anything with hello kitty was early 20s.
Lol umm my grandmother has a hello kitty change purse and hello kitty notepads + pen so yeah age doesn't matter for cute things like that. =P