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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: drvotion86 on November 15, 2011, 06:10:20 PM

Title: hypothetical question
Post by: drvotion86 on November 15, 2011, 06:10:20 PM
I have thought of this and had a dream last night about this. How much different would your life of been if you had been born a girl? I think i would of had a way easier life school wise, Since i dressed like a girl anyways. Would of been on the cheerleading team life would of been great. I would of done ballet because my mom would of let me.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: shortNsweet on November 15, 2011, 06:19:26 PM
I would definitely have felt more comfortable growing up. I would have stuck around doing gymnastics longer, and I'm pretty sure I would have tried out for cheerleading. Though I still would have been one of the band nerds.

There would certainly be differences. But I would still be me.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: drvotion86 on November 15, 2011, 06:20:51 PM
Ya i thought about looking the same as i do now. Gymanstics seems fun all my cousins do it. But they live in denmark so that is excepted there.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: shortNsweet on November 15, 2011, 06:25:13 PM
I absolutely loved gymnastics! It's kind of ironic, since now I have almost no flexibility.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: drvotion86 on November 15, 2011, 06:26:33 PM
I am a huge dreamer. So i think of what could of been. I would of graduated highschool. sry if this seems like a silly question.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: MacKenzie on November 15, 2011, 06:37:03 PM
Quote from: Natalie <3 on November 15, 2011, 06:10:20 PM
I have thought of this and had a dream last night about this. How much different would your life of been if you had been born a girl? I think i would of had a way easier life school wise, Since i dressed like a girl anyways. Would of been on the cheerleading team life would of been great. I would of done ballet because my mom would of let me.


  My life definitely would have turned out alot better. I wouldn't have quit high school and wouldn't have gotten mixed up with drugs just to "fit in" etc.

   Yeah i know i would have been in dancing tap and ballet like my sister, growing up my grandmother pushed it on her even though she didn't wanna be in dancing. I loved to watch them dance and wanted to sign up but my sister said i'd probably get beat up like the other boy who dances so i decided not to lol.  :(
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Elsa.G on November 15, 2011, 06:48:42 PM
I think my life would have been incredible. I would have never been suicidal either. I dont think i would be envous of girls either. Through out most of school i wanted to do so many things that would have probably made me seem "gay" such as gymnastics and ballet as well. I would get really jealous of girls just being girls and not even thinking twice about it.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Lynn on November 15, 2011, 07:21:44 PM
My life would be vastly different from the mess it is right now. The only reason it is what it is now is because I was trying very hard to just "fit in". As a result I felt incredibly uncomfortable and ended up very lonely with no friends or hobbies to speak of.

I know that inside, I'm a really outgoing and social person, but I just can't do that right now without being extremely awkward. I never really did get the whole "guy behavior" thing down that well. I also never did get to try a lot of the things that I would've wanted to, especially acting and working with kids. I don't like my voice and kids think I'm creepy ... so yeah.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: JennX on November 15, 2011, 07:45:48 PM
Why pine over the past... when all we can change is our future?
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Rebekah with a K-A-H on November 15, 2011, 07:49:11 PM
Part of me wants to echo this

Quote from: JennX on November 15, 2011, 07:45:48 PM
Why pine over the past... when all we can change is our future?

but it's actually interesting to consider how, by comparing lives as they'd be, the fact that girls and boys really aren't raised the same.  A lot of developmental psychologists genuinely believe this is the case; I think we prove them wrong, in a lot of ways.

I'll probably be back in a bit to flesh out my beliefs on the matter, but I'll tag this for now and let y'all think about that.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Lily on November 15, 2011, 08:05:47 PM
I would have been a lot happier, but I wouldn't be the same person at all.

How many of my interests and beliefs were shaped by my being trans? It is such a core part of me that I cannot imagine how I would be without it, as either sex.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Alicia on November 15, 2011, 09:14:17 PM
So many things would be different that a guess really isn't possible. But it's almost guaranteed my life would have been better. I was bullied physically every single day. Parents and teachers alike expected me to be a doormat and I got punished whenever I wasn't. Of course the bullies never got in trouble. But hitting/punching/kicking a girl probably would have had consequences. That's not to say I was thinking along those lines.

But even if I didn't have a crappy childhood I'm pretty sure it'd still be better. It's so deep within me that I'm not so sure even getting the surgery would be enough to satisfy.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: drvotion86 on November 15, 2011, 09:17:59 PM
Its nice to think about isnt it. but i wouldnt  change a thing in my life. If i wasnt abused and kicked around and went through everything i did i wouldnt  be here talking with all you great people now. =)
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: xxUltraModLadyxx on November 15, 2011, 10:24:22 PM
i probably would've had more friends, i would've had less anxiety, i would've had more self esteem, i would've been bleeding all over everything each month.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: drvotion86 on November 15, 2011, 10:53:47 PM
ya periods i wonder what thats like lol...
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Lily on November 15, 2011, 11:13:16 PM
I'd love to be able to get pregnant. :(
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: MacKenzie on November 15, 2011, 11:16:45 PM
Quote from: Natalie <3 on November 15, 2011, 10:53:47 PM
ya periods i wonder what thats like lol...

  I think we lucked out on that one. The one good thing about being trans!  :icon_joy:
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: drvotion86 on November 15, 2011, 11:21:39 PM
yes i wanna get pregnant trust me when i say i am trying lol (jk)
But adoption is great too, ive always wanted a little asian girl, I wanna name my little girl Aurora.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: BrokenCode on November 15, 2011, 11:41:05 PM
I probably would have been a stuck up bitch. lol. Also I probably would of got pregnant at 15 years of age. Sad but true, just because of the area I lived in at the time. I also truly think my opinion on GLBT's would have been different.

But I always wondered. It probably would of been a lot better.  :angel:
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Rebekah with a K-A-H on November 16, 2011, 09:54:35 AM
Hahaha, am I the only one here who is supremely grateful that she won't ever have periods or get pregnant?  I mean, I'm seeing this as a pretty sweet deal, yo.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: ByeBye on November 16, 2011, 01:57:37 PM
For me, it's interesting to see how things would turn out back then.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: xxUltraModLadyxx on November 16, 2011, 05:45:25 PM
Quote from: Wonderdyke on November 16, 2011, 09:54:35 AM
Hahaha, am I the only one here who is supremely grateful that she won't ever have periods or get pregnant?  I mean, I'm seeing this as a pretty sweet deal, yo.

i'm sure the bleeding all over your panties gets old, so i agree. having babies is supposed to hurt like a mother.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: xxUltraModLadyxx on November 16, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
Quote from: Natalie <3 on November 15, 2011, 10:53:47 PM
ya periods i wonder what thats like lol...

Menstruation Animation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ4QOQdnifk#)

like this!
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Mahsa Tezani on November 16, 2011, 06:03:27 PM
Quote from: BrokenCode on November 15, 2011, 11:41:05 PM
I probably would have been a stuck up bitch. lol. Also I probably would of got pregnant at 15 years of age.

You and I have similiar dreams. Being trans means I can't get pregnant. :(
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Alicia on November 16, 2011, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: Wonderdyke on November 16, 2011, 09:54:35 AM
Hahaha, am I the only one here who is supremely grateful that she won't ever have periods or get pregnant?  I mean, I'm seeing this as a pretty sweet deal, yo.

No one says you have to enjoy periods. But if I could go back in time, I would accept them as the admission price for being born a girl. I'm not superior to all the world's past and present girls, so I should get the same things they do, even the (few) bad parts of it.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: shortNsweet on November 16, 2011, 09:21:34 PM
Quote from: Wonderdyke on November 16, 2011, 09:54:35 AM
Hahaha, am I the only one here who is supremely grateful that she won't ever have periods or get pregnant?  I mean, I'm seeing this as a pretty sweet deal, yo.

I'm sure I'd regret saying this if I actually had to go through it, but I do wish I could go through periods. It's just one of those things to accept about being a girl. Though at least for the time being I'm glad that I can't get pregnant. I don't want to be raising a family yet.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: xxUltraModLadyxx on November 16, 2011, 09:34:23 PM
it was hard enough just to get on hrt, it was hard enough to go through the coming out parts, it still is hard dealing with people challenging me on what i am. i know that periods is something i could live without with the package of challenges that came just by being born.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Sailor_Saturn on November 16, 2011, 09:40:54 PM
Dreams in which I am a girl just living my life are the best ones I ever have. In them I am contented, at ease. Things are the way they're supposed to be, and all is right with the world.

That said, I don't respond well to thinking about this in the waking world. I just end up getting angry the more I think about how much I've lost and how much more I'm going to lose. I'm always very grateful for dreams where I'm just a girl and that's it, no one questions it. It's an escape from all the pain and anger I've built up over my life. Pain and anger that wouldn't be likely as abundant had I been born with a female body from the outset. I'm getting angry now, so I'm going to stop before I start ranting about how much I hate pretty much everything without meaning it.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: xXRebeccaXx on November 16, 2011, 10:00:03 PM
If I were cisgender my dad would still love me.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Sailor_Saturn on November 16, 2011, 10:08:17 PM
Quote from: xxScarlettxx on November 16, 2011, 10:00:03 PM
If I were cisgender my dad would still love me.

That hit me right in the heart, Scarlett. Right where it hurts most. That's one of the biggest losses I feel, that my dad may not be able to handle being around me anymore. He's trying to keep loving me and to continue being around me, but I know it's hard for him. Daughters need that special relationship with daddy, and we were screwed out of that major league. We don't even get the luxury of calling dad a deadbeat, there's absolutely nothing we can pin it on other than cruel fortune.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Alicia on November 16, 2011, 11:04:09 PM
Quote from: Sailor_Saturn on November 16, 2011, 09:40:54 PM
Dreams in which I am a girl just living my life are the best ones I ever have. In them I am contented, at ease. Things are the way they're supposed to be, and all is right with the world.

That said, I don't respond well to thinking about this in the waking world. I just end up getting angry the more I think about how much I've lost and how much more I'm going to lose. I'm always very grateful for dreams where I'm just a girl and that's it, no one questions it. It's an escape from all the pain and anger I've built up over my life. Pain and anger that wouldn't be likely as abundant had I been born with a female body from the outset. I'm getting angry now, so I'm going to stop before I start ranting about how much I hate pretty much everything without meaning it.

Tomoe-san, I could almost have written that post. The only significant difference is I've become adept at daydreaming of being a girl. The advantage there is being fully awake and having full control of the content. One way or another, my mind is almost constantly on girl-ness. 
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Torn1990 on November 16, 2011, 11:08:30 PM
I think of this often..  it definitely depresses me a lot. I have a lot of regrets about my life, i projected my general unhappiness in a lot of interesting ways. I probably would have had alot more friends and most likely i wouldn't be dealing with mental illness.
But being trans has also brought alot of joy to my life, my supportive gender queer boyfriend is the love of my life right now
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: eli77 on November 16, 2011, 11:20:01 PM
Quote from: Wonderdyke on November 16, 2011, 09:54:35 AM
Hahaha, am I the only one here who is supremely grateful that she won't ever have periods or get pregnant?  I mean, I'm seeing this as a pretty sweet deal, yo.

I'm grateful for the door prize, but it so wasn't worth the price of admission. :P
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: ClockworkAnna on November 17, 2011, 11:34:12 AM
I would be much the same I think, though less shy, and more willing to talk to people. I think I would also hate how talk I am less (genetics says I would still be talk but for a female not tall for a male.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: xXRebeccaXx on November 17, 2011, 02:09:26 PM
Quote from: Sailor_Saturn on November 16, 2011, 10:08:17 PM
That hit me right in the heart, Scarlett. Right where it hurts most. That's one of the biggest losses I feel, that my dad may not be able to handle being around me anymore. He's trying to keep loving me and to continue being around me, but I know it's hard for him. Daughters need that special relationship with daddy, and we were screwed out of that major league. We don't even get the luxury of calling dad a deadbeat, there's absolutely nothing we can pin it on other than cruel fortune.

I'm glad he's gone, I wish he would have left sooner, he was a douche.
Title: Re: hypothetical question
Post by: Sailor_Saturn on November 20, 2011, 03:01:33 AM
Quote from: xXRebeccaXx on November 17, 2011, 02:09:26 PM
I'm glad he's gone, I wish he would have left sooner, he was a douche.

More of a loss for me than you, then...? Um...congratulations? O_O