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Title: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: N.Chaos on November 29, 2011, 02:21:53 AM
I feel like I'm some kind of weirdo. Worse, I feel like one of those psychotically fundamental religious people that think nudity is a big sin or something and that just...bothers me.

I can't shake the combination of depression/disgust/anxiety I get when I see tits, though. Which makes it a little nerve wracking to be so addicted to Tumblr sometimes. I felt like a dick for it, but I unfriended one of my best friends because I kept getting really messed up from the massive influx of giggling gifs she seemed to post constantly.

So...am I the only one like this? A massive part of this is probably because I'm only attracted to guys, I'd imagine you straight guys have no problem with it (presumably, obviously correct me if I'm wrong, please).

I'm just starting to feel like a complete freak or something.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Sharky on November 29, 2011, 02:36:10 AM
Straight, no problem.
I doubt you're the only one though.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Felix on November 29, 2011, 02:41:24 AM
I'm mostly gay but breasts don't bother me if they aren't my own. I breastfed a baby for over a year though, and I grew up partly in comic book culture, so I might just kinda be desensitized.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: N.Chaos on November 29, 2011, 03:19:24 AM
Hrm...I wish I was more desensitized to it, you'd think all those hours spent on 4Chan would've amounted to something along those lines, lol.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Felix on November 29, 2011, 03:34:57 AM
Quote from: N.Chaos on November 29, 2011, 03:19:24 AM
Hrm...I wish I was more desensitized to it, you'd think all those hours spent on 4Chan would've amounted to something along those lines, lol.

You are a stronger man than I. :laugh:
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Morgan. on November 29, 2011, 04:34:13 AM
I guess being attracted purely to girls and having a girlfriend along with countless hours on the internet - particularly Tumblr :D - all adds up to why female nudity doesn't really trigger or phase me.
I can understand why for some people it could be pretty triggering/upsetting, though. What a bummer. :(

I'm sure you're not the only one! Don't feel psychotic. Everyone's triggers can be different.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: xander on November 29, 2011, 05:45:31 AM
One of my IRL trans male friends has this problem.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Nygeel on November 29, 2011, 06:20:14 AM
Topless women don't bother me and neither do bottomless men.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Father Way on November 29, 2011, 08:23:42 AM
Quote from: N.Chaos on November 29, 2011, 02:21:53 AM
I feel like I'm some kind of weirdo. Worse, I feel like one of those psychotically fundamental religious people that think nudity is a big sin or something and that just...bothers me.

I can't shake the combination of depression/disgust/anxiety I get when I see tits, though. Which makes it a little nerve wracking to be so addicted to Tumblr sometimes. I felt like a dick for it, but I unfriended one of my best friends because I kept getting really messed up from the massive influx of giggling gifs she seemed to post constantly.

So...am I the only one like this? A massive part of this is probably because I'm only attracted to guys, I'd imagine you straight guys have no problem with it (presumably, obviously correct me if I'm wrong, please).

I'm just starting to feel like a complete freak or something.

You aren't alone on this and I'm only attracted to guys too. I think its quiet natural.
It used to be really bad before pre everything and I was in art school where one can't avoid female nudes.. It was horrible because they reminded of my female body. All I could do was close my eyes when they were shown in classes and etc.

Still painful to see girls with big boobs walk by though.. but it gets better after some progress with transition :)








Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: bojangles on November 29, 2011, 09:34:33 AM
Does not bother me now, probably because I no longer associate their parts with my own.
So I'm free to just enjoy them (straight guy).

However, before T and top surgery nudity and porn of any kind made me extremely uncomfortable.
It was as if I was trapped in the role of the person with similar parts and being violated. Believe it may be related to being socialized as female. This is done against our will, right? When you are constantly told this is you, but cannot relate to it, it's pretty damned hard to be comfortable. Different personalities gonna experience that in different ways. If that makes us weird, at least we're in good company.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Natkat on November 29, 2011, 09:42:51 AM
I dont have a problem with breast, but I do have a problem with pregnent people and I feel bad about it.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Korlee on November 29, 2011, 10:19:41 AM
Quote from: N.Chaos on November 29, 2011, 03:19:24 AM
Hrm...I wish I was more desensitized to it, you'd think all those hours spent on 4Chan would've amounted to something along those lines, lol.

Psh, 4chan is nothing but shock value without substance.  You'd be better off as a gamer if you want to really desensitize yourself to it..  Shock value, horron, sci-fi, and more all with substance. ;3 
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Felix on November 29, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
Quote from: Natkat on November 29, 2011, 09:42:51 AM
I dont have a problem with breast, but I do have a problem with pregnent people and I feel bad about it.

I see a lot of people mention this. I got pregnant as a teenager and it was a really weird experience. I'm not sure what to say about it - the aversion people have or my own past - but it's interesting how much biological realities affect our mental lives.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Squirrel698 on November 29, 2011, 10:34:38 AM
You bet it's triggering to see naked ladies!  ;D

Probably not in the way you mean however ...

Don't feel bad about unfollowing someone on Tumblr.  You should have your stream the way you want it.  Just because you don't like their blog doesn't mean you dislike them as a person.  Stand up for yourself if they ask. 
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: ForWantOf on November 29, 2011, 02:36:41 PM
I don't have a problem with seeing naked girls, (I'm straight though) but I do get that way when I see naked guys, or even just shirtless guys. I feel really uncomfortable any time I see a guy that I feel that I look like, or should look like anyway, and I get incredibly self conscious and the whole 9 yards. So I guess I can relate to you in a way. I'm sure it's not uncommon though. If I see a girl who has a body similar to mine, I'm a bit disgusted and I find it attractive in no way at all. Which is hard because it took me awhile to find feminine hips attractive since I've hated mine for so long.

I'd say it just comes from something deep-rooted of disliking the body you were born with, or being uncomfortable with it, so you might subconsciously see traits of yourself that you dislike in those images.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Julian on November 29, 2011, 04:16:12 PM
It's only triggering for me when I see breasts much smaller than mine. I get jealous really easily.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Natkat on November 29, 2011, 04:18:20 PM
 like forwantof, I can get pretty sad/jelous of halfnaked guys once in a while,
or girls who a boyish and seam to pass pretty well without even trying...
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Felix on November 29, 2011, 04:38:42 PM
QuoteI can get pretty sad/jelous of halfnaked guys once in a while

^this. I love to look at boys, but it can make me feel pretty terrible about myself sometimes.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: insideontheoutside on November 29, 2011, 09:32:50 PM
Quote from: Felix on November 29, 2011, 04:38:42 PM
^this. I love to look at boys, but it can make me feel pretty terrible about myself sometimes.

Also this.

And also, it depends on the naked chick on what my reaction is. If I find her attractive, well it may just be the opposite reaction you're having! I've disassociated myself from my tits so long ago (they never once felt "natural" on me and they don't do one damn thing for me) that it doesn't trigger any bad body stuff for myself. But seeing dudes? That can definitely be a trigger for me because I know I can never have that "perfect" bod.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Elijah3291 on November 29, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
shirtless girls don't bother me probably because i don't think of what i have as breasts, they dont seem anything like breasts to me, maybe its denial i dunno

shirtless guys make my dysphoric though
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Elijah3291 on November 29, 2011, 10:15:24 PM
Quote from: Julian on November 29, 2011, 04:16:12 PM
It's only triggering for me when I see breasts much smaller than mine. I get jealous really easily.

yeah i second that
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Berger on November 29, 2011, 10:45:53 PM
Quote from: N.Chaos on November 29, 2011, 02:21:53 AM
I feel like I'm some kind of weirdo. Worse, I feel like one of those psychotically fundamental religious people that think nudity is a big sin or something and that just...bothers me.

I can't shake the combination of depression/disgust/anxiety I get when I see tits, though. Which makes it a little nerve wracking to be so addicted to Tumblr sometimes. I felt like a dick for it, but I unfriended one of my best friends because I kept getting really messed up from the massive influx of giggling gifs she seemed to post constantly.

So...am I the only one like this? A massive part of this is probably because I'm only attracted to guys, I'd imagine you straight guys have no problem with it (presumably, obviously correct me if I'm wrong, please).

I'm just starting to feel like a complete freak or something.
I feel like that as well, and I'm gay, too. But I don't like seeing any nudity or porn at all of anyone. I'm just fine with seeing a shirtless guy, but seeing a shirtless girl my initial thought is "look away!" When I was first taking art classes in school there was always nudity, especially in film, which was rather awkward. Of course, I felt looking like a 12 year old by looking away would be more awkward, so I attempted to look like a mature adult-but glancing around the room at everyone else's reactions, turns out everyone else in the class was doing the same thing, trying not to look awkward and trying to look like a mature, open minded adult. In the US at least it's extremely anti-nudity throughout our culture, if there's any nudity in a movie it'll usually be rated R, whereas extreme violence in the movies is often rated PG13 and generally more accepted by our culture. In Europe it's the exact opposite, so I think we're kind of fashioned growing up to think "indecency, I shouldn't look at this" when it's something part of the normal human body.
Some of it might be trans related with not being comfortable with our own bodies, and some changes to be more accepting are likely with T increasing libido, but it's possible to be something separate as well. Personally I have literally no interest in sex at all, porn disgusts me, and though I'm fine with joking about it and desensitized due to the internet enough to keep scrolling, I don't even want to have sex in the future and would avoid a situation where it would happen. Maybe it's because mentally I haven't been able to grow up enough to think something other than "sex is gross" or perhaps it's because "sex is bad" was drilled into my head as a kid through church, but now that I'm 20 years old that's something that's actually abnormal. I more than likely actually have sexual aversion disorder which could stem from a lot of trans related things. Personally I don't find having sex necessary for myself anyways since I'm not trying to reproduce or complicate my life any more so it's not something that I care enough about to see a therapist about, lol.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: N.Chaos on November 29, 2011, 10:55:41 PM
Quote from: Squirrel698 on November 29, 2011, 10:34:38 AM
You bet it's triggering to see naked ladies!  ;D

Probably not in the way you mean however ...

Don't feel bad about unfollowing someone on Tumblr.  You should have your stream the way you want it.  Just because you don't like their blog doesn't mean you dislike them as a person.  Stand up for yourself if they ask.

Oh Squirrel, your replies are always some of my favorites XD
She was extremely cool about it, thankfully.

Quote from: Korlee on November 29, 2011, 10:19:41 AM
Psh, 4chan is nothing but shock value without substance.  You'd be better off as a gamer if you want to really desensitize yourself to it.  Shock value, horron, sci-fi, and more all with substance. ;3

99.9% of the time, it is (unfortunately). I've gotten some great stuff from there though, and every once in the while there are some incredibly sweet things said. 3-4 AM, I've learned, is like this magical time in /b/land where you can find crazy, intellectual debates raging alongside Inglip's summoning. But, I've already said too much...
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Morgan. on November 29, 2011, 11:00:45 PM
Quote from: ForWantOf on November 29, 2011, 02:36:41 PM
I don't have a problem with seeing naked girls, (I'm straight though) but I do get that way when I see naked guys, or even just shirtless guys. I feel really uncomfortable any time I see a guy that I feel that I look like, or should look like anyway, and I get incredibly self conscious and the whole 9 yards. So I guess I can relate to you in a way. I'm sure it's not uncommon though. If I see a girl who has a body similar to mine, I'm a bit disgusted and I find it attractive in no way at all. Which is hard because it took me awhile to find feminine hips attractive since I've hated mine for so long.

I'd say it just comes from something deep-rooted of disliking the body you were born with, or being uncomfortable with it, so you might subconsciously see traits of yourself that you dislike in those images.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: anibioman on November 29, 2011, 11:01:19 PM
im straight and i feel awkward when i see tits just because i was always taught that people should be modest about their bodies.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Nygeel on November 29, 2011, 11:19:38 PM
Nude and topless trans men bother me because I don't have the comfort/balls to walk around shirtless with other people around.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: N.Chaos on November 30, 2011, 01:35:21 AM
Quote from: Nygeel on November 29, 2011, 11:19:38 PM
Nude and topless trans men bother me because I don't have the comfort/balls to walk around shirtless with other people around.
Hell, I don't even have the comfort to do it when I'm alone.  The only time I'm any kind of comfortable shirtless is when I'm sleeping and I don't have to feel those things.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Darth_Taco on November 30, 2011, 04:49:45 AM
You're not alone. Naked women make me uncomfortable too ;_;. Thankfully, I'm gay so I don't sleep with naked women :'D. Unfortunately I'm gay so women seem to think it's cool to undress around me! D:< This is why I have very few female friends now XP. Seriously, when did it get acceptable to take your clothes off around the gay guy? Anyway, just wanted you to know you're far from alone :'D. Wait, that's not good either ;_;.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Natkat on November 30, 2011, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: Darth_Taco on November 30, 2011, 04:49:45 AM
You're not alone. Naked women make me uncomfortable too ;_;. Thankfully, I'm gay so I don't sleep with naked women :'D. Unfortunately I'm gay so women seem to think it's cool to undress around me! D:< This is why I have very few female friends now XP. Seriously, when did it get acceptable to take your clothes off around the gay guy? Anyway, just wanted you to know you're far from alone :'D. Wait, that's not good either ;_;.

hahah sorta know what you means XD,
for my female friends they use to hug me so I get my head drown in there boobs,
if there big then I cant breath... and then after that they give me the "your gay RIGH!!"

" :embarrassed:...... sure...." (actually bi but h** scared of violance women who would call me a perv for not resisting there killer boobs as if I had a choice??)

now thinking about it alot of people can make me unconforable and still not,
when I where young and use to shower with the women it felt very wrong both because I where naked with all those women and + my teacher thought I where a lesbian and she scold me for looking at them.

I think it depends on if I identify myself with people, people who reminds me of myself or other in a bad way, makes me unconfortable sad or jelous..
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Wolf on November 30, 2011, 12:12:52 PM
I'm straight and it bothers me. Most nudity bothers me because I don't like feeling aroused because I hate having to deal with that ->-bleeped-<-... And there's the bit about, at the moment I feel mentally scarred by these chesticles and in due course one day I will be physically scarred by them. So they aren't my favourite part of female anatomy by a long shot :p

Also get jealous of topless guys.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: supremecatoverlord on November 30, 2011, 12:15:32 PM
I love breasts.
But then again, I'm attracted to women.
I imagine this could be dysphoria inducing to a transguy who isn't though, especially if he hasn't had top surgery.
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: GnomeKid on November 30, 2011, 06:37:19 PM
I don't mind topless ladies. 

I am however straight and have had top surgery.  I don't think they bothered me before surgery though.  Most nudity does bother me though. 
Title: Re: Are naked/topless girls ever triggering to you?
Post by: Berserk on November 30, 2011, 06:40:49 PM
No, I can definitively say that I have absolutely no problems with topless women :laugh: