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Title: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: Julie Marie on December 02, 2011, 06:07:22 AM
Considering the fact many of our detractors use their beliefs, religious or otherwise, to justify their discriminatory and prejudicial feelings towards trans people, I thought it pertinent to point out how beliefs can lead one to do things that even the general public overwhelmingly considers discriminatory.

Monday, November 28, 2011
Pike County Church Refuses Interracial Couples Membership
(Gulnare, Kentucky) - One eastern Kentucky community is divided after a Pike County church voted Sunday not to allow interracial couples to be members or participate in church services. According to members of the Gulnare Freewill Baptist Church, not everyone is in agreement with yesterday's vote. Melvin Thompson, who actually submitted the proposal to the church, defended his position, and says he doesn't feel this will affect the Gulnare Freewill Baptist Church at all. "I do not believe in interracial marriages, and I do not believe this will give our church a black eye at all. It came before the church on Sunday and the vote was 9 in favor and 6 against," said Thompson.  FULL STORY (http://buzznewskentucky.blogspot.com/2011/11/pike-county-church-refuses-interracial.html) 

It's interesting to note the vote didn't bar the offenders from attending services (and making Sunday donations) or from participating in funeral services (and paying the fee for the services).

"You can come to church.  You can support the church.  We just won't support you, until you die."  That's the message I see them sending.
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: lilacwoman on December 02, 2011, 02:28:40 PM
Kentucky is Deliverance country isn't it?  I can hear the banjos being tuned for Deliverance 2, 3, 4 etc.
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: Sandy on December 02, 2011, 02:36:41 PM
It sounds like they like the genetic wading pool they have set up for themselves and don't want anyone else in it.

Who would ever WANT to belong to a church like that unless they were interbred in the first place?

-Sandy
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: Anatta on December 02, 2011, 02:45:54 PM
Kia Ora,

::) "And deliver us from 'stupidity' for ever and ever 'insane' !" 

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: Jen61 on December 02, 2011, 03:10:46 PM
Numbers 12:1–16
Miriam and Aaron Oppose Moses

12 Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cu->-bleeped-<-e woman whom he had married, for he had married a Cu->-bleeped-<-e woman. 2 And they said, "Has the Lord indeed spoken only through Moses? oHas he not spoken through us also?" And pthe Lord heard it. 3 Now the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth. 4 And suddenly the Lord said to Moses and to Aaron and Miriam, "Come out, you three, to the tent of meeting." And the three of them came out. 5 And qthe Lord came down in a pillar of cloud and stood at the entrance of the tent and called Aaron and Miriam, and they both came forward. 6 And he said, "Hear my words: If there is a prophet among you, I the Lord make myself known to him rin a vision; I speak with him sin a dream. 7 Not so with tmy servant Moses. uHe is faithful in all my house. 8 With him I speak vmouth to mouth, clearly, and not in wriddles, and he beholds xthe form of the Lord. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?" 9 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against them, and he departed.

10 When the cloud removed from over the tent, behold, yMiriam was zleprous,1 like snow. And Aaron turned toward Miriam, and behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said to Moses, "Oh, my lord, ado not punish us1 because we have done foolishly and have sinned. 12 Let her not be as one dead, whose flesh is half eaten away when he comes out of his mother's womb." 13 And Moses cried to the Lord, "O God, please heal her—please." 14 But the Lord said to Moses, "If her father had but bspit in her face, should she not be shamed seven days? Let her be cshut outside the camp seven days, and after that she may be brought in again." 15 So Miriam dwas shut outside the camp seven days, and the people did not set out on the march till Miriam was brought in again. 16 After that the people set out from eHazeroth, and camped in fthe wilderness of Paran.



So, G-d is not again interracial marriages as long as they y stay in the faith. Blessed is the Lady Goddess Adonai Sovereign of the Infinite

Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: SandraJane on December 02, 2011, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: lilacwoman on December 02, 2011, 02:28:40 PM
Kentucky is Deliverance country isn't it?  I can hear the banjos being tuned for Deliverance 2, 3, 4 etc.

:laugh: No, Georgia! :laugh:
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: Joelene9 on December 02, 2011, 05:38:26 PM
  God didn't ban interracial marriages and still doesn't.  That passage about Miriam's punishment wasn't about race, but of the culture that Moses' wife came from.  The Cu->-bleeped-<-es (Ethiopians). were animists adopted partially from the Egyptians and the Nubians.  Also Miriam and the "bloody husband" (menses) remark she made from the earlier circumcision Aaron got did add to God's action.  Racial bias is a more recent thing, about 3 centuries old.  No mention of race anywhere before that time, just cultural differences. 
  Joelene
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: Anatta on December 02, 2011, 05:59:21 PM
Kia Ora,

::) "A bigot's mind is like the pupil of the eye-the more light one shines upon it-the more it will contract !"

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: Joelene9 on December 02, 2011, 06:08:47 PM
  "Stacy Stepp, pastor of the Gulnare Free Will Baptist Church, said he will seek a new vote on the issue, perhaps as early as Sunday."  This on overturning the church council vote to ban interracial marriage. 
  More: www.kentucky.com/2011/12/01/1979905/free-will-baptist-executive-office.html#ixzz1fPdFNWEV (http://www.kentucky.com/2011/12/01/1979905/free-will-baptist-executive-office.html#ixzz1fPdFNWEV)
  Joelene
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: Emily Ray on December 02, 2011, 07:28:27 PM
I'm glad that the church was so small. I would be more worried if it was a mega church.

Huggs

Emily
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on December 02, 2011, 07:34:06 PM
But that's the only kind of marriage I think about having.
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: Joelene9 on December 02, 2011, 07:52:11 PM
Quote from: Emily Ray on December 02, 2011, 07:28:27 PM
I'm glad that the church was so small. I would be more worried if it was a mega church.

Huggs

Emily
If it was a mega church, then this would be a mega-story!
  Joelene
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: Zaria on December 03, 2011, 12:02:02 AM
by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, men  who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth.

1 Timothy 4:2-3
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: V M on December 03, 2011, 12:17:08 AM
I often have various thoughts, feelings and/or comments regarding the various bigots that rear up their ugliness to impose upon the rights of others...

But I fear that I run the risk of insulting Innocent farm animals
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: spacial on December 03, 2011, 08:11:26 AM
Another silly group of inadequates makes a play for notability with a stupid and nonsensical claim.

Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: gennee on December 12, 2011, 01:30:59 PM
I wouldn't attend a church that I'm not welcome at. Second, their bigotry comes through loud and clear by their sorry explanation for it. Sadly, there are many churches like this.
Title: Re: When Beliefs Go Bad - Church Bans Interracial Marriage
Post by: Felix on February 08, 2012, 11:35:21 AM
I didn't notice this when it was initially reported.

How do they even determine what a person's race is? It can't be the old "one drop" rule or they wouldn't be able to marry anybody at all. When I was growing up, I only knew "passing" as meaning you looked white enough to live as white. It was a big deal because of this kind of meanness.