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QuoteThis procedure makes a very smooth frontal region that has almost no budge, and when done right, looks 100% feminine for the flatness. It also allows you to pee sitting down, without removing any of it. Like any procedure, read everything first before starting. You may simply want to borrow an idea or two for your own method anyway.
Select a tape to use. I suggest using a tape found in the bandage section of most stores, or athletic tape. Duct tape can be used, but be careful. You may want to coat your skin with a product called New-Skin or Liquid Bandage if you use duct tape, or anything as strong. The New Skin brand has a spray type available and is convenient to use except it is thinner and takes much longer to dry.
I have had mixed results with different tapes. After discovering what appears to be the reason for excessive skin pull on removal, I have no problems using duct tape directly on my skin. I believe it has to do with exfoliation. Using an exfoliating body wash daily appears to have kept me from having any of the problems people associate with duct tape sticking too good, and hurting the skin on removal. I generally use the Johnson and Johnson 1" and 2" wide cloth tapes. They also make a waterproof tape. I have at times used duct tape when I ran out of the medical tape. Besides, it is much cheaper to buy. Be careful with duct tape however. It ca be too sticky!
With any tape, before using it for the first time, I suggest cutting a small piece off and place on you skin somewhere you can keep on for at least 8 hour or so. Do this to make sure you are not sensitive to the adhesive on the tape. I once had an awful experience with a tape. I was apparently allergic to something in the adhesive and was red for days from it. This was a tape made for the skin too!
For a skirt, dress, or loose pants, a casual tuck works fine for most:
Manipulate the family jewels upward under your abdomen skin. For the first timer, don't force anything. Use even pressure. It may sound strange, but it is actually comfortable when done right. Make sure you get everything up and in that is under the skin. It is possible to pinch the tubes and vascular system. I then use one or two pieces of tape to hold the loose scrotal skin over my penis. This holds the penis down and the skin out of the way from being pinched You can vary how tight it is, but this is just to hold things in place and keep them from being in the way or worse. Before doing this, I have too often have this sensitive skin chaffed or cut into by the leg opening of panties, shapewear, etc. that fits tight to try to control the bulge. Once the skin is kept safely out of the way, it no longer becomes a problem. Even if you use a gaff, this one or two piece tape method will keep the edges of the gaff from pinching your skin.
For a serious tuck, bear with me... hope I explain well:
1) Make sure the skin is clean, dry, and shaved. No oils or lotions. Shave any area the tape will be, or the tape will likely remove it for you when you remove the tape!
2) Tape a 'tee' together first using two pieces of tape about 1" or 25 mm. wide. The shorter piece should be at least 4" (100 mm) and the second piece at least 12" (300 mm.) Longer on the short piece hurts nothing unless to take it to excess. This piece gets wrapped around you penis. Wrapping around a second time is actually good for thin tapes. The longer piece can easily be cut to length later.
3) Tape these together near their ends at a right angle, sticky sides together. leave at least an inch (25 mm.) on the shorter end of the short piece but also make sure it is not long enough to wrap around your softened third leg. The long piece can be taped at the end, but I suggest going past at much as 1" (25 mm) and no more. Take this end and fold over the shorter piece for a little more strength. Some tapes will require this longer piece to be two layers of tape, if later you pull tight enough to break it. Maybe even use a piece of strapping tape here, although I never tried it myself.
The next few steps you may find easier to change the order of some, or modify as you learn the procedure;
4) Use a singe piece of tape to hold the boys in like in the casual tuck above.
5) Stretch your penis out and wrap the sticky shorter piece around at about 1/2 the length of the shaft. This is a good starting point, and you will likely want to modify where you place it after the first few times until you find the perfect point. This will be a different place with most of us. The band this forms should not be tight, but just slightly smaller circumference than when you are soft. The sticky side of the long piece needs to face such that you pull and stick it back and between your butt checks. Do this once you have the wrap. Cut if too long for what you are wearing. I like it to go about 6" (150 mm) past my tailbone. Again experimenting till you find the right places and lengths for yourself. I like to pull the long piece firm enough to flatten the frontal area good. I like to place the shorter piece such that the ring it forms doesn't go much past the anus if it does. This is probably the hardest step to master. it is hard to keep the long tape from sticking someplace, or to itself during the process.
6) Uses several pieces of tape horizontally, pulling the scrotal skin, and maybe even some of the leg skin depending on how tight you want it, and how loose your skin is. Roll the skin under as needed and redo the tapes as needed. I usually have to replace a piece of tape twice or more to get the skin properly pulled and rolled under. I start by using 2" (50 mm) wide tape, but end up replacing it all with 1" (25 mm) tape to reduce wrinkling of the tape.
7) Lift the edges of these horizontal tapes and carefully cut a nice line down. Make sure you see were your skin is and don't cut it with the scissors. Once cut, a "V" shape should be covering the area. Rather than cutting, you may want to fold the sticky side to hold an undergarment in place. This will keep it from shifting and revealing the taped area. I suggest this and waterproof tape for swim suits and thongs you may want to flash. I can tape and trim to wear some (not all) French Cut thongs without visible tape. If you are going to wear a visible thong-back anything, you may want to skip using the longer piece in step 3 above. You will lose much of the effectiveness of this tuck, but it will still be good except for swim suits, spandex, etc. If you still need a serious tuck, find a way to attach something thin enough like a string between the band and a hidden place to tape on your lower back.
8) through all this, your penis is still out. Relax and let if shrink if needed then push the head inside the skin, past the taped point. It should stay in, but you can coax it out when you need to pee. So... make sure the band is not too loose or tight in step 5. If it is, you should redo it before continuing. Pulling the penis back, and pushing it back in keeps it from finding a place to bulge outward. It also completes the feminine illusion in spandex or a swim suit if this minor bulge stops at the right place, just before your ass! Note that this procedure keeps you from having the image seen in the movie Ace Detective: Pet Detective, as the clear male bulge under Einhorn's panties.
I have found that most tapes might take several minutes to completely adhere to the skin. If you cut or fold the excessive tape in step 7, you may want to wear something tight over the tapped area for 10 minutes or so before trimming. Control top pantyhose or any other control garment that covers this area works fine.
With practice, you will find the lengths and placements that work well for you. Don't expect to get this right the first time.
The way I can get it the flattest is by using duct tape. You could do it everyday but that would be a pain, literally.
I have a bit of trouble getting the abdomen flat, when I push the things up they're still a bit visible as two little lumps, is this just me doing it wrong? :-\
Is there any special way this duct taping is done?
I can't imagine it would stay stuck. Is it just one strip of tape coming from under you, up your back?
Or do you have to tape around your waist to hold the first strip on.
It's really hard to explain in words. Basically, you cut three strips of duct tape about 8-10 inches long. You stick them together by placing them side by side on the edges. You then cover your goodies with either toilet paper or preferably, a baby wipe. Then hold the strips vertically and stick the top edge right above your goodies on your abdomen. Then you bend you knees and pull the other end of the strips all the way back as far as you can between your butt cheeks.
It will still be a little loose so don't worry. Then repeat but with one strip at a time, as needed until it's completely flat. I usually have to use 3 or 4 more stips, one on the left side, then the right side, then the middle.
Then you could wearing stockings for support or well fitted panties. It works perfectly for me. There's absolutely no buldge what-so-ever. Also, it's best if you are completely hairless as to avoid pain while removing the tape later.
By the way, this is how it was taught to me. I'm sure there are other ways to do this as well.
Duct tape? WTF? Try some proper surgical tape..
See... There ya go... Lol
Quote from: JenJen2011 on December 20, 2011, 01:58:25 PM
It's really hard to explain in words. Basically, you cut three strips of duct tape about 8-10 inches long. You stick them together by placing them side by side on the edges. You then cover your goodies with either toilet paper or preferably, a baby wipe. Then hold the strips vertically and stick the top edge right above your goodies on your abdomen. Then you bend you knees and pull the other end of the strips all the way back as far as you can between your butt cheeks.
It will still be a little loose so don't worry. Then repeat but with one strip at a time, as needed until it's completely flat. I usually have to use 3 or 4 more stips, one on the left side, then the right side, then the middle.
Then you could wearing stockings for support or well fitted panties. It works perfectly for me. There's absolutely no buldge what-so-ever. Also, it's best if you are completely hairless as to avoid pain while removing the tape later.
By the way, this is how it was taught to me. I'm sure there are other ways to do this as well.
Thanks, I got most of that. Does the tape stick to your stomach?
Nurse, I have the same problem :/
One problem I have had, that is kind of a variant on Nurse's issue above, is that one of my twins is underdeveloped, so when I tuck I get a slight bulge on one side of my abdomen that isn't present on the other side. I can partly compensate by choosing my wardrobe carefully (example: my jeans show it but my denim shorts and denim skirt do not), but I'd love to find a solution (or at least a plausible "explanation"); especially something that would work with a one-piece swimsuit. I'm pretty sure I have the tuck itself right as they both pop easily into their "arctic weather hiding places". (I am well acquainted with their behavior in sub-freezing winter weather.)
As for tape, I have a hard time finding one that will actually stick to my skin. I think I've tried everything the local Walgreens has to offer, but they all start to work loose almost immediately, no matter how much I cleanse or prep my skin. Boy, they all sure cling to hair, though. Yeeeowitch!
I use general purpose duct tape sold in Home Depot. Works great.
What about videos? Wouldnt they be better tutorials and visuals? Heh.
What happens if you tuck then want to have sex with a guy you met at the bar that night?
yes. I cannot understand these descriptions. Does anyone have diagrams or pictures or videos as ms dazzler said?
Yeah I never figured out about the sex situation when tucking.
I know how to tuck though.
Who am I kidding, most of the times I go commando, let it all hang free ;D
Quote from: Nurse With Wound on December 20, 2011, 12:32:55 PM
I have a bit of trouble getting the abdomen flat, when I push the things up they're still a bit visible as two little lumps, is this just me doing it wrong? :-\
that's actually pretty normal! I heard that it will go away as they shrink when you go on hrt
Quote from: MsDazzler on December 20, 2011, 10:31:07 PM
What happens if you tuck then want to have sex with a guy you met at the bar that night?
most girls here don't want to have sex with those parts, so its not an issue!
Quote from: JennyCop on December 21, 2011, 01:29:25 AM
that's actually pretty normal! I heard that it will go away as they shrink when you go on hrt
I was 8 1/2 before...It just shrank a little bit.
I feel weird about wearing leggings...since i have a huge ass bulge under my skirt or tunic.
I'm the same as Mahsa.
When i tucked it looked like I had an overweight vagina...with a heavy flow.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 21, 2011, 01:30:57 AM
I was 8 1/2 before...It just shrank a little bit.
I feel weird about wearing leggings...since i have a huge ass bulge under my skirt or tunic.
I was talking about its two friends tucked in
Quote from: JoeyD on December 21, 2011, 01:35:15 AM
I'm the same as Mahsa.
When i tucked it looked like I had an overweight vagina...with a heavy flow.
Unroll that fruit roll up and surprise a guy on a date!
Chances are if he accepts that I am a huge fruitfly...he'll accept my fruit roll up.
Oh gawd, nasty girl Mahsa.
Quote from: JoeyD on December 21, 2011, 01:07:07 AM
Who am I kidding, most of the times I go commando, let it all hang free ;D
Joey expect all the ->-bleeped-<-s, browsing this forum to message you after this comment! Lol :p
Quote from: JennyCop on December 21, 2011, 01:39:21 AM
Joey expect all the ->-bleeped-<-s, browsing this forum to message you after this comment! Lol :p
Throw the ->-bleeped-<-s a boner every once in awhile.
Quote from: JoeyD on December 21, 2011, 01:35:15 AM
I'm the same as Mahsa.
When i tucked it looked like I had an overweight vagina...with a heavy flow.
miss miss, did you shoplift a salami? :police:
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 21, 2011, 01:43:12 AM
Throw the ->-bleeped-<-s a boner every once in awhile.
... Um honey you know that may be jsut what they want xD. SORRY Dirty mind >.< I still don't know if I would want to be with a guy Pre-Op. It soulds kind of, well complicated.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 21, 2011, 01:30:57 AM
I was 8 1/2 before...It just shrank a little bit.
I feel weird about wearing leggings...since i have a huge ass bulge under my skirt or tunic.
Eight and a half!?!?? Blimey....my dilator is nine inches and it looks impossibly huge...
Quote from: JennyCop on December 21, 2011, 01:29:25 AM
most girls here don't want to have sex with those parts, so its not an issue!
Well, even if you don't want to use it during sex, wouldnt it look bizarre if you took your panties off and there it is - you look all taped up and ready for some bondage game and the man staring at you down there?
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 21, 2011, 01:37:31 AMOh gawd, nasty girl Mahsa.
Yes, you are, but you sure know how to brighten our day! ;D
Quote from: Jennifer.L on December 26, 2011, 05:04:37 PM
... Um honey you know that may be jsut what they want xD. SORRY Dirty mind >.< I still don't know if I would want to be with a guy Pre-Op. It soulds kind of, well complicated.
All that pillow biting.... I was a top before and I had bottomed many times.
So I teach the men a thing or two.