I wanted to know if you would wear Shirts that says things like,
It's a GYRL thing.
SUPER GYRL
TRANS WOMEN'S LIBORATION : picture of me burning a pair of men's underwear hanging off of a stick. ;D
We do exyst
Time for me to live my life not you
I like the idea of making things that open peoples minds. I want others to see that people are open to us.
Not I.
No. I believe in subtle awareness. Besides, I don't like words / statements on my clothes!
I have a shirt from Johnnyboyxo's merch.
Its cute and pink and says "Super ->-bleeped-<-"
xD I don't wear it out in public since its a little silly, but it makes a cute PJ shirt.
To quote Justin Hall, author of GLAMAZONIA: the amazing super ->-bleeped-<-...NO BRANDING.
I have rainbow tattoos on my neck though... But thats sexy. Reminds every man who does me that I used to be a gay boy.
Just thought ask. I'm going to wear it. I don't see it as branding. I think I will call my line ANDROGYNY mixing pink and blue wording.
GYRL
I like being me. Thanks for the input. I would like to hear from others on this so keep posting lol. ;D
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 21, 2011, 12:40:23 AM
I have rainbow tattoos on my neck though... But thats sexy. Reminds every man who does me that I used to be a gay boy.
lol.. that's eff'd up! Who thinks like you? Seriously!? :D
EDIT: I mean that as a compliment.
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on December 21, 2011, 01:11:25 AM
lol.. that's eff'd up! Who thinks like you? Seriously!? :D
EDIT: I mean that as a compliment.
You're right...I need something GAY on my tramp stamp.
I can walk down the street and advertise I used to be the guy straight men would call a "fairy".
I used to have new hair colors every month, wear queen amidala dots, henna chokers, jewelery, and tight tshirts.
last time I was anywhere near anyone who claimed to be out'n'proud was at a transgender rights seminar I agreed to sit in.
the leader stood up and above his male pot belly and rouged cheeks said he was out'n'proud.
I waited for my turn and informed the group that 'out'n'proud is a marker of gays or Lesbian but not TS. he did not like this. he also said he had no intention of losing his penis.
needless to say the rouge was the only female thing about him.
Quote from: lilacwoman on December 21, 2011, 02:10:05 AM
last time I was anywhere near anyone who claimed to be out'n'proud was at a transgender rights seminar I agreed to sit in.
the leader stood up and above his male pot belly and rouged cheeks said he was out'n'proud.
I waited for my turn and informed the group that 'out'n'proud is a marker of gays or Lesbian but not TS. he did not like this. he also said he had no intention of losing his penis.
needless to say the rouge was the only female thing about him.
I see HIM as an inspiration. LOL... can we say this post reeks of "->-bleeped-<-r than thou"?
I am extremely feminine... Who cares what I do with my penis or not? Its my body and my rules.
@disko shark past gay boy or not you do come up with some strange sh%t. lol. :D
->-bleeped-<-r then thou? how? steath is the better choice but some of us missed that boat.
@lilacwoman that was funny. I have only meet 2 others here. I probly would not be out and proud if I would have started sooner but I see something here. I can't put my finger on it. but it is here. Things are changing all around us. I see changes coming. I understand stealth and I would loved to have gone down that road but I missed the turn so this is my path now others like me hiding for years. worried about what other people think. There are no support groups here. I would give anything to set infront of others that understand this. My Internet was turned off for just a week and I thught i was going to die because I had no one to open up to about what was going on with my life.
Quote from: jainie marlena on December 21, 2011, 02:29:51 AM
@disko shark past gay boy or not you do come up with some strange sh%t. lol. :D
->-bleeped-<-r then thou? how? steath is the better choice but some of us missed that boat.
Maybe i might have had a little queen moment. Sorry Lilacwoman.
I don't believe in stealth though.....I am pretty upfront about what I am and surprised how many people "don't know". Guys who would know, apparently don't... I spent all night in the Castro and no gay man said anything to me about being a ->-bleeped-<-. It's weird.
But that being said, there's a varying scale of gay men from masculine to feminine.... I somehow am the extreme feminine option...who attracts "straight" men.
So girl, I am gonna werqk my rainbow tats and unicorn tramp stamp. He sees the unicorn and will soon have the UNICORN in his face.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 21, 2011, 04:57:18 AM
So girl, I am gonna werqk my rainbow tats and unicorn tramp stamp. He sees the unicorn and will soon have the UNICORN in his face.
...Wait, you have a unicorn back there?? Really? :laugh: I'm kind of jealous.
Where I live, people are heavily conservative, no way would I wear anything like that out. I don't need to alienate people I have to deal with regularly due to work. Many may know I'm trans, but they don't really want to be reminded of it.
The "outest" and "proudest" article of clothing I have is a halter dress with RAINBOW stripes pattern, heh. It is an one of a kind because my friend made that for me....
I tend to wear that to pride parades or special LGBT events.
Other than that, I am pretty low-key although I am far the most well-dressed woman where I work in my department, heh. Everyone else dresses so blah or elderly, lol.
Quote from: Beverley on December 21, 2011, 05:27:08 AM
Funniest post I have seen in a while..... ;D ;D ;D I am still laughing....
Beverley
It funny :D :D
@ disko shark what does unicorn mean? I did know that it had symbolic meaning to it.
Gyrl? Super Gyrl? Aren't people just going to think I can't spell correctly?
@JenJen2011 My son said the samething that is way there is a color change from pink to blue to set the"Y a part from the GRL.
I posted this that I plain to put on a shirt that will help get the point across.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1214.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc494%2Fjainiemarlena%2Ftransgenderyinyang1.jpg&hash=68d8808fc8cc70e5e97b4a77177b1a8819b25bce)
I like we do exyst - subtle :).
I'm neither proud nor ashamed, but I'm definitely out, as someone transitioning. I don't normally wear besloganed clothing, but I like a teeshirt I saw that read: "my body is none of your business" (with ♂/♀/??? symbols on it).
Quote from: Padma on December 21, 2011, 08:54:09 AM
I like we do exyst - subtle :).
I'm neither proud nor ashamed, but I'm definitely out, as someone transitioning. I don't normally wear besloganed clothing, but I like a teeshirt I saw that read: "my body is none of your business" (with ♂/♀/??? symbols on it).
I actually like that idea got anymore.
I see under developed area were both boy are dressing in girl clothes girls are dressing in boy clothes. The EMO thing boys in girls clothes. If I plant the idea of the invisible part of gender that can't be seen that needs to come out. everyone seems to express this in some way or another proving that it is there. It is missing but you can see it trying to come out.
Quote from: jainie marlena on December 21, 2011, 12:07:27 AM
I wanted to know if you would wear Shirts that says things like,
It's a GYRL thing.
SUPER GYRL
TRANS WOMEN'S LIBORATION : picture of me burning a pair of men's underwear hanging off of a stick. ;D
We do exyst
Time for me to live my life not you
I like the idea of making things that open peoples minds. I want others to see that people are open to us.
I dont know if it exist but I know ther are shops/internetstores/ where you can make your own tshirt by putting a decribtion on how you want it to look like, or where you can buy thigns to make it yourself.
if all you need is a picture or text then its very easy to make.
@Natkat I would like to know more. I was hoping the net would help with this plan.
another look at what I mean plant the idea
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1214.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc494%2Fjainiemarlena%2Ftransgenderyinyang1-1.jpg&hash=51f4296c33736b6a50f634b90c47000f0e14e1cc)
VistaPrint is fairly cheap. My wife makes candles and soaps that we sell at local events. We have a couple of different sets of shirts that we've made for that. This last set was like $5 a piece.
Across the front of the shirt will sayANDROGYNY on the back will be the frase of choice.
@ JenevaI need a place that makes patches that can be sowen pants, hat and so on..
"sweet smell of not being seen as fat guy with rouged cheeks." YEEAAAHHH ;D
Quote from: lilacwoman on December 21, 2011, 02:10:05 AM
last time I was anywhere near anyone who claimed to be out'n'proud was at a transgender rights seminar I agreed to sit in.
the leader stood up and above his male pot belly and rouged cheeks said he was out'n'proud.
I waited for my turn and informed the group that 'out'n'proud is a marker of gays or Lesbian but not TS. he did not like this. he also said he had no intention of losing his penis.
needless to say the rouge was the only female thing about him.
Is there a reason trans people can't be out and proud? And what does their (not clear on their gender based on your post) penis have to do with anything?
out'n'proud is a gay thing.
::)
out and proud is for anyone within the LGBT community; it is by no means exclusive to the gay community despite it typically being associated with it more than others.
Well I will be out and pround when the time comes.. Because I cant hide anyway! I live in a very small place and knows lots and lots of people through work and so on. There is just no way that I would be able to go stealth even if I looked spot on as a girl.. Which I dont think will be the case anyway, so I am happy to become atleast something inbetween!
Quote from: Akashiya Moka on December 21, 2011, 05:10:01 AM
...Wait, you have a unicorn back there?? Really? :laugh: I'm kind of jealous.
I have a unicorn in the front/
I'm out and proud to be a woman, nothing more nothing less, just a woman.
Out and proud for being trans is in my opinion silly, like one is looking for attention, mostly in a negative way.
Quote from: Julian on December 21, 2011, 11:52:30 AM
Is there a reason trans people can't be out and proud? And what does their (not clear on their gender based on your post) penis have to do with anything?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed what appears to be intentional misgendering.
Stuff like this should probably not be happening on a transgender forum...
Quote from: Maya Zimmerman on December 21, 2011, 04:35:06 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed what appears to be intentional misgendering.
Stuff like this should probably not be happening on a transgender forum...
Well I have said I identify with gay men several times here. I am also a transgender performer. To the green among us, they attempt to knock me down a few pegs by saying I am less trans than them.
Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 21, 2011, 04:36:29 PM
Well I have said I identify with gay men several times here. I am also a transgender performer. To the green among us, they attempt to knock me down a few pegs by saying I am less trans than them.
It seems like trans people arent much better than the "normal" ones when it comes to acceptance? that is kind of sad in a way. We cannot all be the same!
It would depend on the shirt, but generally I avoid graphic/print on them. It might be fun to have a trans shirt, but I think I'll wait until I'm more confident in my passability to wear such a thing outside - provided the shirt works in an outfit anyway.
I'm not really out, but I don't make any special effort to hide my trans status either. Proud, for sure, but I don't really feel like everyone needs to know. It'd probably be more effort than it's worth.
Mahsa - To be perfectly honest, I wonder sometimes how I should refer to you if such a situation were to arise. I know you often relate to being a gay man. Would you prefer male pronouns? You have a very feminine appearance, but if you feel like a male identity fits better for you, I'd like to be accommodating.
Quote from: Maya Zimmerman on December 21, 2011, 04:42:52 PM
Mahsa - To be perfectly honest, I wonder sometimes how I should refer to you if such a situation were to arise. I know you often relate to being a gay man. Would you prefer male pronouns? You have a very feminine appearance, but if you feel like a male identity fits better for you, I'd like to be accommodating.
I'm the same as you, a transsexual female... It's my PERSONAL identity versus my PUBLIC identity. But at the end of the day, I look in the mirror and I see a fabulous gay male...It's more of my own identity conflicts if anything.
But even so, I find myself alienated in gay communities beyond my performer issues.
Well, I hope you find a way to relate who you are with the world around you without conflict... if that's a thing you want...
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: jainie marlena on December 21, 2011, 12:07:27 AM
I like the idea of making things that open peoples minds. I want others to see that people are open to us.
So I think. I am out, not proud but consistent with my reality. I am a woman, as well as transexual or tall or anything else.
I don´t like the idea of stealth in my life, it´s a very sad thing to me. The only way that I found to be myself was transsexuality. People use to be ignorant about transsexuality, but curious too, and curiosity is the first step of knowledge.
In my facebook page, I try, using the curiosity of people, to give a close vision about life of a transexual woman. I think this can change opinions and stereotypes and make our lives better. And this is the thing that I am proud of.
I'm just not into shirts with writing on them.
Also, I'm just not into displaying my gender presentation/sexuality on articles of clothing. It's not that I am not proud but I just don't do it. I don't see many lesbians and gays sport t shirts a lot that says "I am gay!"
However, I do have a HRC bumper sticker so that's about all I have when it comes to public expressions.
Quote from: Maya Zimmerman on December 21, 2011, 04:35:06 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed what appears to be intentional misgendering.
Stuff like this should probably not be happening on a transgender forum...
I've started seeing it a bunch, especially when I venture out of the androgyne section. I'm never sure whether to call it out when I see it, because I'm never looking to start a conflict.
Quote from: Annah on December 21, 2011, 05:34:23 PM
Also, I'm just not into displaying my gender presentation/sexuality on articles of clothing. It's not that I am not proud but I just don't do it. I don't see many lesbians and gays sport t shirts a lot that says "I am gay!"
It's just the wardrobe that gives gay men away. I told some guy in the Haight, he was werqkin the colorful plaid most gay men are wearing now under his vintage letterman jacket.
Quote from: jainie marlena on December 21, 2011, 12:07:27 AM
I wanted to know if you would wear Shirts that says things like,
It's a GYRL thing.
SUPER GYRL
TRANS WOMEN'S LIBORATION : picture of me burning a pair of men's underwear hanging off of a stick. ;D
We do exyst
Time for me to live my life not you
I like the idea of making things that open peoples minds. I want others to see that people are open to us.
What's wrong with the letter 'I'?
Quote from: Pica Pica on December 21, 2011, 06:13:27 PM
What's wrong with the letter 'I'?
Heh, was wondering the same thing.
I was assuming it's a play on 'gyne'.
It was the word 'exyst' what rubbed most.
That or 'Liboration'.
I like exyst because it has XY in it - which I read as F/M :).
I am proud of myself for what I have accomplished, without being vain about it.
I am a bit subtle about being out about my sexual orientation, wearing the odd piece of rainbow jewellery, thumb and pinky rings that identify me as a dyke, (love the tattoo idea Mahsa, I am going to steal it!) but not about being trans. I just couldn't be bothered explaining all the time.
Once I get to know someone I will out myself fairly early, but that is different.
I personally wouldn't wear something like that unless I go to a pride festival or something (which I don't, lol). The way that I show I'm out and proud is simply by living my life, day by day, as me.
Also, by wearing these out and proud shirts, etc, you could be asking for trouble unfortunately.
I'm proud that I'm a good person and that I have accomplished things through some difficult times, but proud to be trans? not really...
@Pica Pica Did you see the art? It says it all of why I switch the "I"for the "Y.
I am looking at the middle area everyone wants to express themselves their own way. BOIS and GYRLS CLUB
ANDROGYNY
like how AIRPOSTLE is written across the front of a shirt. It is for the middle ground I did not really think that everyone would seem to missunderstand this. some of the shirts will express different aspects of gender. It is not all about transsexuals in general it is about gender.
Sorry everyone I throwed everyone of with the topic tittle.