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Title: Do u think the world will end Dec.21.2012 n we wont complete transition? :O
Post by: Sad Girl on January 01, 2012, 01:13:12 PM
Sorry to sound like a weirdo specially to those who are highly rational and sceptic but I'm quite concerned about this 21.12.12 and the Mayan Calendar thingy. I have watched and followed some of Youtube videos about the End of the World and Mayan Calendar warning and some sounded pretty much convincing and creepy and I tried hard to be sceptic about it.

Am I the only one concerned about this? At times I think I won't be able to complete my transition before the 'End of the World' or even if not that, I just fear there's suddenly a World War III and Major War in the World and I can't transition. Did someone ever get this thought too?  :o
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Post by: tekla on January 01, 2012, 01:16:02 PM
Actually the Mayan world/culture/civilization came to an end long ago now.  And their predictions missed that happening.  So I wouldn't get too concerned.
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Post by: Joeyboo~ :3 on January 01, 2012, 01:19:13 PM
Not real.
Title: Re: Do u think the world will end Dec.21.2012 n we wont complete transition? :O
Post by: supremecatoverlord on January 01, 2012, 01:20:25 PM
Remind me why people even bother talking about this anymore?

::)


It's such a fat joke.
Title: Re: Do u think the world will end Dec.21.2012 n we wont complete transition? :O
Post by: shortNsweet on January 01, 2012, 01:57:14 PM
The whole Mayan calendar, world ending stuff is completely stupid in my opinion. So what if their calendar ends? If you follow that logic the world should have ended last night when our calendar ended.
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Post by: supremecatoverlord on January 01, 2012, 02:06:46 PM
Quote from: shortNsweet on January 01, 2012, 01:57:14 PM
The whole Mayan calendar, world ending stuff is completely stupid in my opinion. So what if their calendar ends? If you follow that logic the world should have ended last night when our calendar ended.
It's also past the year 4000 in the ancient Chinese Calendar, so according to them, we really should be dead already.
The Gregorian Calendar is what is most commonly used these days though.
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Post by: shortNsweet on January 01, 2012, 02:12:42 PM
Quote from: JasonRX on January 01, 2012, 02:06:46 PM
It's also past the year 4000 in the ancient Chinese Calendar, so according to them, we really should be dead already.
The Gregorian Calendar is what is most commonly used these days though.

That's basically my point. Calendars are strictly arbitrary. Just because one calendar ends does not mean it's the end of the world.
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Post by: LivingInGrey on January 01, 2012, 02:17:31 PM
Meh, even if it does end on Dec 12th I'm going to get hit by a buss tomorrow so I'm not all that worried about it.
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Post by: supremecatoverlord on January 01, 2012, 02:23:05 PM
Quote from: LivingInGrey on January 01, 2012, 02:17:31 PM
Meh, even if it does end on Dec 12th I'm going to get hit by a buss tomorrow so I'm not all that worried about it.
Me too.

O:

Quelle coïncidence!
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Post by: EvilEm on January 01, 2012, 04:40:06 PM
I've been hearing about the world ending my whole life, and everytime they were wrong, so what makes this one right?
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Post by: Zelane on January 01, 2012, 10:56:51 PM
If you really want to see all this stuff dissected with logic go to: http://www.2012hoax.org/ (http://www.2012hoax.org/)
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Post by: jmaxley on January 02, 2012, 12:22:18 AM
The calendar doesn't end, it simply starts over.  Like us going from the year 1999 to the year 2000.
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Post by: Annah on January 02, 2012, 12:44:56 AM
I do not take much stock in 2012 stuff. It's a money trap just like the May 2011 Rapture craze was. The day will come and go just like every other day
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Post by: Cindy on January 02, 2012, 12:45:08 AM
I love these doomsday people.

I keep wondering what the leader of the group tells the followers the next day.

'Due to unforeseen circumstances the  EOW has been postponed until (fill in date)'

'Luckily you all prayed so much we have put off the EOW until (FID)'

'Whoops'

'Sorry about you giving all your money away to me, and no you cannot have it back'

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Post by: tekla on January 02, 2012, 12:52:29 AM
I hate it.  Every time I buy into one of these here doomsday predictions I get all hot and bothered, I go out, rent trucks, some storage space - cause you know it's going to be a once-in-a-lifetime chance to loot.  And then...nothing.  I think they ought to be required to turn everything in ahead of time.  You know, put their money were their mouth is. 

But hey, at some point the law of averages - and entropy - is going to cause one of them to come true.
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Post by: Cindy on January 02, 2012, 01:12:22 AM
Yea, but I'll bet you $1mill they get the date wrong. And no you cannot have the cash in advance.
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Post by: wheat thins are delicious on January 02, 2012, 01:20:35 AM
That calendar wasn't marking the end of the world, simply the end of a cycle.
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Post by: supremecatoverlord on January 02, 2012, 01:21:42 AM
Quote from: tekla on January 02, 2012, 12:52:29 AM
I hate it.  Every time I buy into one of these here doomsday predictions I get all hot and bothered, I go out, rent trucks, some storage space - cause you know it's going to be a once-in-a-lifetime chance to loot.  And then...nothing.  I think they ought to be required to turn everything in ahead of time.  You know, put their money were their mouth is. 

But hey, at some point the law of averages - and entropy - is going to cause one of them to come true.
I don't believe the world is going to end as instantaneously as our feeble human minds would like to believe.
I've gotten paranoid before too, but truth is these predictions exists because of overly-imaginative people stretching the truth of the matter and passing on the word to others until it becomes like a game of Telephone.
It's always been this way - just word tends to get around a lot faster these days.
Title: Re: Do u think the world will end Dec.21.2012 n we wont complete transition? :O
Post by: tekla on January 02, 2012, 02:04:37 AM
That calendar wasn't marking the end of the world, simply the end of a cycle.

And you know that how?  Archaeological guesswork?  We know that they had a circular/cycle way of looking at the world and time, but most cultures do, liner ones are far rarer.  But it's still just a guess.  Best guess is that it's just a combination of the stone they used and the font size.
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Post by: supremecatoverlord on January 02, 2012, 02:11:16 AM
Quote from: tekla on January 02, 2012, 02:04:37 AM
That calendar wasn't marking the end of the world, simply the end of a cycle.

And you know that how?  Archaeological guesswork?  We know that they had a circular/cycle way of looking at the world and time, but most cultures do, liner ones are far rarer.  But it's still just a guess.  Best guess is that it's just a combination of the stone they used and the font size.
Because the Mayan descendents who are alive still actually said so.
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Post by: V M on January 02, 2012, 02:14:58 AM
Gotta love the 'End Of The World' predictors  :laugh:  It ain't over till it's over and if your already over it, what's the dif? If the world blows up, will we all be floating around in space bitching about it? Why am I thinking about Mel Brooks movies right now?
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Post by: Cindy on January 02, 2012, 02:28:01 AM
Quote from: JasonRX on January 02, 2012, 02:11:16 AM
Because the Mayan descendents who are alive still actually said so.

Oh Wow.
Sorry
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Post by: supremecatoverlord on January 02, 2012, 02:34:03 AM
Quote from: Cindy James on January 02, 2012, 02:28:01 AM
Oh Wow.
Sorry

Not sure what this reaction is for...because that wasn't meant to be stringent sounding in tone or anything.
Perhaps I should start putting "lulz" after everything I post.
I'm just saying, because there was a whole fuss about this last year.
There are people of Mayan origin still alive and most are not completely isolated from their cultural history.
I just thought I'd say, because I honestly think Tekla is panicking for no reason here.
>_<
Title: Re: Do u think the world will end Dec.21.2012 n we wont complete transition? :O
Post by: V M on January 02, 2012, 03:00:21 AM
Not to frighten anyone but...

The 'End of A Cycle' deal actually makes sense  :)  The planet Earth has been around for millions of years and has gone through several changes, cleansing it'self from time to time... All it takes is one direct hit from a sizable meteor
Title: Re: Do u think the world will end Dec.21.2012 n we wont complete transition? :O
Post by: tekla on January 02, 2012, 03:04:32 AM
Yeah.  And you know that the current residents of France are decedents of the Gauls.  But it doesn't give them any special insight to what was going on there 12 centuries ago - so much changes over time that it's just about the hardest thing to go back and really understand what they were thinking, how they were seeing the world, and what the world looks like to them.  Their link to this past civilization carries with it heritage, which is not to be mistaken for history.  I mean we know that the civilization was on real shaky ground before the Spanish arrived, long before.  The lowlands in particular seemed to have done an Anasazi and just ceased to exist, but no reasons (or even legends) ever explained why.

So it's like Nostradamus - everyone who looks at it thinks they know, but really, does anyone?  Did he even?
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Post by: pebbles on January 02, 2012, 04:23:35 AM
Meh personally I want the world to end. :P
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Post by: Pippa on January 02, 2012, 05:54:36 AM
Nope, it is complete balderdash.  Just because a calender ends, it doesn't mean there is a correlation to the end of the world.  The Millenium Bug was more believable.  If the Mayans were around today, I bet they would just have renewed their calender.

Also we know when the earth will end, in about 4 billion year when the sun runs out of fuel and expands to become a red giant.   A large meteor hitting the Earth wouldn't be the end of the world, just the end of the majority of current life on earth.  The dinosaurs ruled and were wiped out but they didn't have space travel or nuclear weapons
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Post by: justmeinoz on January 02, 2012, 06:03:56 AM
If the world ends, we won't have to worry about anything, and if it doesn't we can proceed as normal.

This topic surfaced previously, and my comment is unchanged.  The Maya didn't see the Spanish coming, so why would anyone believe them on this. 
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Post by: wheat thins are delicious on January 02, 2012, 12:45:51 PM
well to be fair they did think he was the reincarnation or whatever of their god, Quatzequatl, who happened to be  portrayed as white with a beard.
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Post by: ApproachingMars on January 02, 2012, 09:44:09 PM
LOL no, we don't have to worry :)
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Post by: Mahsa Tezani on January 02, 2012, 09:46:28 PM
My transition is complete.

I basically live as a woman regardless of my surgical status. Did I mention I was a non op and have no plans for srs, orchi...etc?

I had my ffs done by this doctor in Bev Hills.
Title: Re: Do u think the world will end Dec.21.2012 n we wont complete transition? :O
Post by: Joelene9 on January 02, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
  Astronomical standpoint, winter solstice, two days after first quarter moon.  No biggie.  Just a flip of an archaic calendar.  We all got too many our own changes, decisions, tribulations and personal events to worry about this year. 
  Joelene
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Post by: mixie on January 02, 2012, 10:34:24 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377144_301978336512270_100001003185432_912948_1852762585_n.jpg)
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Post by: justmeinoz on January 02, 2012, 10:57:17 PM
I wonder how many fundi's are getting worried about it?  I would bet that there are more than a few, and it's a pagan prediction.  :laugh:
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Post by: MacKenzie on January 02, 2012, 10:59:47 PM


I sure hope not, my lifes just now starting to pick up so that would suck big time lol!
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Post by: Anatta on January 02, 2012, 11:10:49 PM
Kia Ora Dooms dayers,

::) "Worry is to pay interest on trouble that may never comes !"

::) A simple philosophy to follow...If you can do something about it-do it ! If there's nothing you can do about it, then why waste your time worrying !

::) This looks like a job for Sadhguru :The dooms day slayer... ;) ;D

No Fear in the Now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUdHX1Bent0#)

Metta Zenda :)

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Post by: wheat thins are delicious on January 03, 2012, 12:06:39 AM
Quote from: mixie on January 02, 2012, 10:34:24 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377144_301978336512270_100001003185432_912948_1852762585_n.jpg)

LOL
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Post by: King Malachite on January 03, 2012, 05:37:47 AM
I'm with pebbles on that. I didn't think about the second one with the war but I'm not too concerned about that.  As far as the end of the world I doubt it will happen but in the extreme case that it does then it wouldn't bother me because in my heaven I will be complete with the body I should have been born with without wondering how I'm going to pay for it or when are they going to cut me up down there or have needles stuck in me etc. so it's only a win-win situation for me.  I will transition one way or another.  :)
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Post by: Nikolai_S on January 05, 2012, 02:07:40 PM
Oh, for ***** sake.

The translator miscalculated and the calendar cycle doesn't come to an end for another century or so. Which was discovered over a year ago.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/mayan-calendars-2012-doomsday-prophecy-wrong/story?id=11926347#.TwYAhzWJerk (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/mayan-calendars-2012-doomsday-prophecy-wrong/story?id=11926347#.TwYAhzWJerk)
From even earlier:
http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/10/26/1517242/2012-a-miscalculation-actual-calendar-ends-2220 (http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/10/26/1517242/2012-a-miscalculation-actual-calendar-ends-2220)

There was never any prediction of the end of the world. I think the Mayan scripts suggested the end of an era, start of a new one. There is some significant astronomy-related occurrence that coincides with their prediction, but I can't remember what, because I was investigating it a good 5 years ago at least. The Maya were actually incredibly gifted astronomers - they created what is believed to have been the most accurate calendar of the time and successfully predicted events like solar eclipses hundreds of years in advance. As a result, I don't find it unlikely that something will happen, but I do think it would be in the realm of astronomy, not wars or plague or any of that.

Not that it actually matters, because it won't be relevant for several dozen years.
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Post by: Anatta on January 05, 2012, 02:35:55 PM
Kia Ora,

::) So how will one know if the prediction was right  :o  :icon_yikes: ...Think about it ! ;) ;D

Metta Zenda :)
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Post by: Mahsa Tezani on January 05, 2012, 05:11:40 PM
I heard the world is gonna end cuz all the terrorists are gonna get together with Luxemborg to construct a moon base and then launch nuclear weapons into Earth.

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Post by: espo on January 06, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
I think when the last honey bee dies THATS when the world dies.
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Post by: Kahlan Amnell on January 06, 2012, 06:27:42 PM
Just don't stick your arm out the window.
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Post by: xXRebeccaXx on January 06, 2012, 11:49:10 PM
If the world does end and I'm not one of the survivors I'll be happy, it would be a pitiful end to a pitiful life.
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Post by: angiejuly on January 11, 2012, 11:35:18 AM
LOL Lost of opinion but not much has enlightemed anyone. Everyone is absolutly correct no matter wehat they think. 2012 is happening now and has been building up for 100 years and even before that. Its our spiritual eveolution. and physical. However it is only for those who want it. Most souls as i see it have decided to stay behind for the next one. It will be here  as it comes every time we enter this point of the galaxy. It happens every 25,800 years we evolve abruptly and all of a sudden. Sound frequency coming from the center of the galaxy shapes dna and is changing those odf us who wish to accept it to a 12 helix dna. The rest of you who say nothing comes will have just that. It is not wrong it only means you are not ready for the higher dementions. Would be like a bad acid trip to you . If you are not spiritually connected to your higher self and know the meaning of life and why we are here then you can either learn by the many like myself or stay behind. I want to let you know though. After ascention if you choose that for yourself you will also choose your body and form. We evolve to 5th denentional beings. Nobody is comeing to give us anything. We are alone in this. It is work. You have to love all things created unconditionally and know all things created are you and see yourself as the creator of your reality. With that is the power to create the human life expeirience you desire. The path can be very painfull. The one thing i will telll you is those who believe the end of the world is coming. It will for them. All and everything you believe will become your true and outer reality or hell depending on the perceptual markers you have placed in the starts of your consciousness.

There is nothing you can do about it if you cannot change the stars. Your fears make you say nothing is coming. You see the world we live in about to burst and think it will sustain. Never. Mother is healing herself of cancer and you should want to ascend with her. being left behind in this painful disconnected physical demention is not for me. Yes you can consciously change your sex if you choose that for yourself. It is all about the self and choice. to not believe you will create what you do believe.
Love you..
http://youtu.be/7JjMGXz9P6Y (http://youtu.be/7JjMGXz9P6Y)
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Post by: Bishounen on January 11, 2012, 11:53:37 AM
Quote from: angiejuly on January 11, 2012, 11:35:18 AM
LOL Lost of opinion but not much has enlightemed anyone. Everyone is absolutly correct no matter wehat they think. 2012 is happening now and has been building up for 100 years and even before that. Its our spiritual eveolution. and physical. However it is only for those who want it. Most souls as i see it have decided to stay behind for the next one. It will be here  as it comes every time we enter this point of the galaxy. It happens every 25,800 years we evolve abruptly and all of a sudden. Sound frequency coming from the center of the galaxy shapes dna and is changing those odf us who wish to accept it to a 12 helix dna. The rest of you who say nothing comes will have just that. It is not wrong it only means you are not ready for the higher dementions. Would be like a bad acid trip to you . If you are not spiritually connected to your higher self and know the meaning of life and why we are here then you can either learn by the many like myself or stay behind. I want to let you know though. After ascention if you choose that for yourself you will also choose your body and form. We evolve to 5th denentional beings. Nobody is comeing to give us anything. We are alone in this. It is work. You have to love all things created unconditionally and know all things created are you and see yourself as the creator of your reality. With that is the power to create the human life expeirience you desire. The path can be very painfull. The one thing i will telll you is those who believe the end of the world is coming. It will for them. All and everything you believe will become your true and outer reality or hell depending on the perceptual markers you have placed in the starts of your consciousness.

There is nothing you can do about it if you cannot change the stars. Your fears make you say nothing is coming. You see the world we live in about to burst and think it will sustain. Never. Mother is healing herself of cancer and you should want to ascend with her. being left behind in this painful disconnected physical demention is not for me. Yes you can consciously change your sex if you choose that for yourself. It is all about the self and choice. to not believe you will create what you do believe.
Love you..
http://youtu.be/7JjMGXz9P6Y (http://youtu.be/7JjMGXz9P6Y)

I fully respect your belief, but you should know that this Ascension-stuff is a modern New Age-idea with roots in the 70's.
The Maya-Indians themselves never said anything of the sort about any Ascension. None. Nada.
The only thing they said about the year 2012, was that the gods will return to Earth once again from their long absence and a Golden Age will begin and that the current age in some fashion will stop. That the current age will stop have by many been interpretated as that the World will end, which is ofcourse possible, but it may just aswell mean that the Mayans considered the gods return in itself as being the start of the Golden Age.

That is all they said. The current claims that is being made about Ascension and stuff are modern- not Mayan.
That being said, some Ascensionlike scenario could ocourse hypothetically happen in some fashion- weird things happen all the time, but fact remains that the Mayans never ever said anything about anything even similar to any Ascension- only a Return.
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Post by: Cindy on January 12, 2012, 01:00:49 AM
I remember that 6/6/66 was going to be a bad. Then 9/9/99 wasn't going to be good, year 2000k was definitely going to be a bad.

It is also a little unfortunate to misspell dimension with demention, which, if it means anything, the root would be from demented. But maybe you meant that?

Sorry, just making an observation.

Cindy

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Post by: heatherrose on January 12, 2012, 01:26:43 AM


Quote from: Happy Girl on January 01, 2012, 01:13:12 PM
I think I won't be able to complete my transition before the 'End of the World'

Umm... :icon_blink: IF the world should come to an end you will indeed transition from the body you were born into
to what we are all destined to be... Dead.. to this life and then on to the next.

In the early 70's the experts warned of the coming ice age.
Late 80's they warned us that, within the next couple decades, the earth was going to melt with a fervent heat.
1999 we were warned that every computer on the planet was going to eat our brains.
Now Nuberu is hiding behind every gas cloud and once again the end is inevitable.

:icon_confused2: :icon_chuckel:
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Post by: angiejuly on January 17, 2012, 01:13:42 AM
 Its about consciousness. Yes, there has been several world ending events in my 40n uyears and 2012 is another BS story of doom and gloom. The return of god or Jesus. No ! If you believe within your reality that all is one and love unconditionally then you are in a conscious awakening. What is happening for 2012 is happening now. Everything 2012 is about is now and on through the year. To accept the DNA conscious shift you have to stay balanced with your chakras open. Or just believe nothing. It ok! You do not have to do anything but this one thing. Have no fear. No fears at all because through this year they become your reality to deal with untill your fears are gone. But just enjoy yourself best you can and do not worry. teh only change coming is our transitions will be free, same thing with food, water, electricity and all those recriations you have so long wanted to afford are free for you as well.   STOP! STOP think how just accept it and wait for it. Humanity always has to draw a line an comnclussion to everything. The entire physical relm is a hologram of dencity. Your thought create your reality. Think loving thoughts and it will be all you have soon.

I am sending love and light to all of you. wish you where on page with your spiritual and physical evolution . I will tell you this about our futur. Zero energy technology well be disclosed to the global public  by spring. I promiss. It will be discose as theoretical and yes many things have been disclosed before only to go away in the end from corporate power. I will not tell you who has the power now. That is in the discolsure after zero energy. expect miricals..
LOve you
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Post by: Anatta on January 17, 2012, 01:36:53 AM
Kia Ora,

::) Does consciousness arise from 'matter' ? [As the sentient being begins to develop]...

::) Or does matter arise from 'consciousness' ?

::) Which comes first ?

::) If consciousness comes first...Then 'nothing' really 'matters' !  ;) ;D

::) Just to spice things up a little [firing up the grey 'matter'] ;)

Metta Zenda :)
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Post by: heatherrose on January 17, 2012, 08:06:09 PM


Quote from: Zenda on January 17, 2012, 01:36:53 AM::) If consciousness comes first...Then 'nothing' really 'matters' !  ;) ;D

:icon_yes:

I don't mind so it doesn't matter.


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Post by: tekla on January 17, 2012, 10:07:27 PM
Consciousness does not matter to me at all.  What I want to know is:  Can I spend the next 11 months running my credit cards up to Donald Trump's limit without having to worry about paying them off next January?
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Post by: Kelly J. P. on January 18, 2012, 01:01:54 AM
 The End of the World is fuuuuun. I've lived through three of them already and look forward to the rest :D. It keep things fresh, exciting, and reminds us to enjoy each and every day.
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Post by: Pippa on January 18, 2012, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: espo on January 06, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
I think when the last honey bee dies THATS when the world dies.

70% of the worlds plants are actually pollonated by bats!  Other plants are pollonated by birds and other insects or by the wind.  Some even self pollonate.  Yes, the drop off in bee numbers is worrying but it happened before.  Nearly all UK honey bees died after the First World War, we imported more from Austrailia.
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Post by: heatherrose on January 18, 2012, 05:41:40 PM


On NPR the other day, All Things Blathered About had an interview with Professor I. Noalot
teaching at Ikincee U. He said he may have discovered the cause of the hive collapse phenomena.
He had been finding a large number of honey bee carcasses under street lights. Honey Bees not being nocturnal,
he became curious about what could be causing them to leave their hives at night and be drawn to the lights.
During his investigation, he discovered tiny maggots crawling on the carcasses of newly expired bees, in sealed containers.
The maggots were allowed to gestate, and they were identified by an entomologist buddy of his, as being a tiny fly
with a sharp thingy used to inject the microscopic eggs of it's parasitic larvae between the plates of the bees' exoskeleton.
He surmises that, in the later stages of gestation, as the bee is dying, the larvae are causing the bees to leave the hive
at night and seek out light, as a moth to a flame, possibly explaining how an entire hive can disappear over night.
I found the interview quite interesting but I guess not interesting enough to remember his name or where he teaches. :icon_chuckel:


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Post by: Noah James on January 18, 2012, 07:16:51 PM
Eh, Doomsdays just give us something to joke about at school when the day rolls around. S'just too bad this one is during a break; I hope the one after that isn't. :P
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Post by: angiejuly on January 20, 2012, 07:00:43 PM
Dooms day already came. It was when my wife got a rastraining order against me. I knew nothing and homless by that afternoon. Bitch!!! I forgive her and love her dearly, ( Bitch).
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Post by: Devlyn on January 21, 2012, 08:35:19 AM
I've already marked my 2013 calendar with the "One Year Anniversary Of The End Of The World" date. Hugs, Devlyn
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Post by: Jamie D on January 22, 2012, 12:46:35 AM
Quote from: Happy Girl on January 01, 2012, 01:13:12 PM
Sorry to sound like a weirdo specially to those who are highly rational and sceptic but I'm quite concerned about this 21.12.12 and the Mayan Calendar thingy. I have watched and followed some of Youtube videos about the End of the World and Mayan Calendar warning and some sounded pretty much convincing and creepy and I tried hard to be sceptic about it.

Am I the only one concerned about this? At times I think I won't be able to complete my transition before the 'End of the World' or even if not that, I just fear there's suddenly a World War III and Major War in the World and I can't transition. Did someone ever get this thought too?  :o

I played the lottery on 11/11/11.
I lost.
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Post by: Jamie D on January 22, 2012, 12:50:05 AM
Quote from: Pippa on January 18, 2012, 10:21:30 AM
70% of the worlds plants are actually pollonated by bats!  Other plants are pollonated by birds and other insects or by the wind.  Some even self pollonate.  Yes, the drop off in bee numbers is worrying but it happened before.  Nearly all UK honey bees died after the First World War, we imported more from Austrailia.

I've been known to try to self-pollenate.

Never quite worked.
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Post by: Anatta on January 22, 2012, 03:02:13 PM
Kia Ora,

::) According to some 'string theorists',and those who believe in the multiverse hypothesis,  if one 'thinks' the world will end, then it will end but not necessarily in the realm of existence that we experience/occupy, however for one of our 'other' selves their world will end...

BELIEVE IT ....OR NOT ? 

Parts of Me Ooze in All Directions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIieq0a130c&feature=related#)

Michio Kaku's warning for 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0_lH2Bknlg&feature=related#)

::) I came across this guy when researching quantum physic, he's an interesting character and some of what he says make sense[Well to me anyway-but then I'm weird  ;) ;D] 

Metta Zenda :)
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Post by: Preston on February 02, 2012, 01:12:36 AM
I can't wait to have kids and tell them how many times I survived the end of the world.

And, if they act up, I'll make them watch the movie 2012 and tell them they're damn lucky to even be alive because I went through so much to survive that... hahahaha
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Post by: Penny Gurl on February 21, 2012, 02:28:56 PM
Had to add two bits on the Mayan thing.  The Mayan calendar is mostly based off of astronomy, think about it at night no city lights to obstruct the stars.  the sky was a different place then.  They based the movements and the cycles on events that had happened in the night sky.  The current "calendar" ends when the back hole in the center of our galaxy, the Sun and the Earth all come into alignment.  This is an actual real thing that will be happening in December and only happens.. oh about every 3,500 years or so.  They were probably the first really accurate astronomers, this is when they felt that their Gods would return through the "Navel" of creation and return to the Earth to enlighten man kind and bring in a new age.  Yes sounds crazy.. but the astronomy is correct.  I think they compared the accuracy of the Mayans time to the Atomic clock and only found something like a difference of .002 with the atomic clock only being accurate  to +/- .005  The world will continue to spin and chances are that Mayan Gods will not descend to Earth... But December is only a few months away I guess we'll all find out then. :o
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Post by: heatherrose on March 03, 2012, 01:59:36 AM


I used to be terrified of the coming damnations.

Now I live my life because... what else is there to do?


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Post by: V M on March 03, 2012, 03:50:26 AM
For some odd reason, I doubt the world will end in my lifetime
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Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on March 03, 2012, 04:18:57 AM
Omg I think about it too sometimes lolz. Of course I don't actually believe it, but it would suck if it happened this year of all years. T.T
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Post by: bballshorty on March 04, 2012, 01:09:30 PM
well they did say the year was gonna end when we hit 2000...and all the computers were doing to melt down because they couldn't comprehend going into the "2000s"
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Post by: veritatemfurto on March 04, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: Jamie D on January 22, 2012, 12:50:05 AM
I've been known to try to self-pollenate.

Never quite worked.

LOL now now, Jamie, do we need to change your name to Hermes or Aphrodite? ;)


as for the world ending, let us know when you see the mothership, then run like hell to the stargate while I hop in my F-302 :P
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Post by: veritatemfurto on March 04, 2012, 02:08:31 PM
Quote from: Penny Gurl on February 21, 2012, 02:28:56 PM
Had to add two bits on the Mayan thing.  The Mayan calendar is mostly based off of astronomy, think about it at night no city lights to obstruct the stars.  the sky was a different place then.  They based the movements and the cycles on events that had happened in the night sky.  The current "calendar" ends when the back hole in the center of our galaxy, the Sun and the Earth all come into alignment.  This is an actual real thing that will be happening in December and only happens.. oh about every 3,500 years or so.  They were probably the first really accurate astronomers, this is when they felt that their Gods would return through the "Navel" of creation and return to the Earth to enlighten man kind and bring in a new age.  Yes sounds crazy.. but the astronomy is correct.  I think they compared the accuracy of the Mayans time to the Atomic clock and only found something like a difference of .002 with the atomic clock only being accurate  to +/- .005  The world will continue to spin and chances are that Mayan Gods will not descend to Earth... But December is only a few months away I guess we'll all find out then. :o

As someone that has personal connections in NASA, I can assure you that we've looked into it and there is no conclusive evidence that the world will end from a naturally occurring cosmic event. The signs of such occurrences would have already started to manifest years ago. The galactic alignment that these conspiracy theorists keep falling back on has actually already occurred several years back. The earth has been through this process many times before in its 4.6 billion year history, and will continue to do so for several billion years more before Sol, our sun, grows into a red giant and engulfs the Earth and Mars, and maybe even ignites Jupiter into a binary sun When its supply of hydrogen runs out.

http://www.space.com/14137-2012-doomsday-theories-nasa-interview.html (http://www.space.com/14137-2012-doomsday-theories-nasa-interview.html)

As for Gods of any sort coming down to earth to lay waste to the infidels, go watch Stargate SG-1. Gods based on the highly advanced Goa'uld, the Asgard, and the Ancients, is a plausible theory if you buy into all that alien stuff and consider them as merely highly advanced and/or evolved lifeforms. There are a couple instances in world history that do directly support that theory: where Spanish Conquistadors and a few other advanced cultures made first contact with natives that were still largely paleolithic. These foreigners and their tools, techniques, and weaponry (like guns and bombs) were viewed as the work of magic and gods.
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Post by: bballshorty on March 04, 2012, 02:15:30 PM
Quote from: veritatemfurto on March 04, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
LOL now now, Jamie, do we need to change your name to Hermes or Aphrodite? ;)


as for the world ending, let us know when you see the mothership, then run like hell to the stargate while I hop in my F-302 :P

LOL good one, took me a while to get that
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Post by: veritatemfurto on March 04, 2012, 02:24:57 PM
Quote from: Cindy James on January 02, 2012, 12:45:08 AM
I love these doomsday people.

I keep wondering what the leader of the group tells the followers the next day.

'Due to unforeseen circumstances the  EOW has been postponed until (fill in date)'

'Luckily you all prayed so much we have put off the EOW until (FID)'

'Whoops'

'Sorry about you giving all your money away to me, and no you cannot have it back'


or they've already used their plastic shopping bags to release them from their earthly bonds to ride on their magic carpets to the comet Hale-Bop... idiots :rolls eyes: so paper of plastic? CHOOSE PAPER :laugh:
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Post by: veritatemfurto on March 05, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
last thing I'm saying on this thread to the naysayers and doomsday worriers: (from elsewhere on the internet)

"There have been about 514 Leap Years since Caesar created it in 45BC. Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. Also, the Mayan calendar did not account for leap year...so technically the world should have ended 7 months ago."

So, there ya have it! We've already made it! Welcome the the new b'ak'tun... B)
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Post by: xXRebeccaXx on March 09, 2012, 06:21:40 PM
WARNING: I'm about to burst your doomsday bubble for all you doomsdayers out there- There have been about 514 leap Years since Caesar created it in 45BC Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. Also, the Mayan calendar did not account for leap year..... so technically the world should have ended 7 months ago.
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Post by: veritatemfurto on March 09, 2012, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: xXRebeccaXx on March 09, 2012, 06:21:40 PM
WARNING: I'm about to burst your doomsday bubble for all you doomsdayers out there- There have been about 514 leap Years since Caesar created it in 45BC Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. Also, the Mayan calendar did not account for leap year..... so technically the world should have ended 7 months ago.

thats what I said too lol
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Post by: Genevieve Swann on March 11, 2012, 05:34:45 AM
It will not happen in one day. Many geoligists and seismologists are aware that planetary alignment effects the earths tectonic plates. A solar eclypse can cause an earthquake. The Mayans knew about the upcoming planetary alignment. It is a slow process. There has been an increase in natural disasters. More earthquakes ans tsunamis. Some animals can predict an earthquake. If your cat runs away from home, the dog hides under the bed and your pet water buffalo heads for high ground then be aware. For those who truly beleive in the end it may happen. Jim Jones made it happen in Guayana. The Davidians managed it in Waco Texas.
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Post by: V M on March 11, 2012, 06:07:18 AM
I became concerned when it appeared my iguana was trying to bite my finger  :o  But then I found out that their way of claiming and showing affection is to give a tongue tap  :)  Besides, they don't really have teeth and are vegetarians

Oh yeah... Um, the end of the world?... Urmmmmmm... Not too likely

Carry on with your bad selves  :laugh:
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Post by: tekla on March 11, 2012, 12:37:41 PM
It will not happen in one day....Jim Jones made it happen in Guayana. The Davidians managed it in Waco Texas.

Both of those events happened within a 24 hour framework.
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Post by: sweettexastgirl409 on March 15, 2012, 08:17:02 AM
Id hate to die in mid-transition!!!
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Post by: Kaeren on March 16, 2012, 06:14:48 PM
I believe it is just a new cycle. Every end is also a new beginning.  I can be wrong but last time it happened we went from neanderthal to cro magnon. So this might actually be a good thing for transgenders because transgenders are a 3td gender which is in my opinion a natural step in the evolution of mankind. So maybe there will be more of us after 2012.

Katie Melua - If the lights go out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWLst0NbVtU#)

Neanderthal v Cro Magnon 1of10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R15Thl1j9_0#)
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Post by: supremecatoverlord on March 16, 2012, 06:28:07 PM
I wish this thread would stop getting revived.

::)