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Title: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: Shana A on January 10, 2012, 08:42:17 PM
NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS
Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Warns of transgender boys making their way into troops
Published: 1 day ago
by Drew Zahn

http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/teen-girl-scout-calls-for-cookie-boycott/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/teen-girl-scout-calls-for-cookie-boycott/)

A reportedly 14-year-old Girl Scout has joined with parents and Scout alumni to call for a boycott of the widely popular Girl Scout cookies, claiming the organization is using cookie proceeds to push a radical homosexual agenda at the expense of the Scouts' safety.

The girl, identified as Taylor from Ventura County, Calif. – but whose parents have asked her last name and troop number be withheld – made a YouTube video calling for the boycott after she was shocked to discover Girl Scouts USA, or GSUSA, has been admitting transgender boys who claim to be girls into scout troops.

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Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: NikaPlaidypus on January 10, 2012, 10:23:51 PM
Anyone selling girl scout cookies?  I'm buying.

Thank you for helping to perpetuate the transgender = pervert myth, WND. 
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: Joelene9 on January 10, 2012, 10:35:08 PM
  This girl reminds me of the same kind of snobbishness that my sisters received when they tried to join the Junior Daughters of the American Revolution (JDAR).  They went to a few meetings and had enough of the snob Nazi officers of that chapter.  I guess they were too good over my 'trash' sisters from the projects. 
  Obviously, she hadn't read the Standards of Care (SOC) regarding children who want to transition or her mom wouldn't let her.  Nor does she know that nearly 100% of the transgirls who took puberty blockers go on to complete their transition around age 18 from a recent report.  Nor will she can tell the difference from those who are transitioning young because they will acquire the same shape, desires, and demeanor as her cis sisters. 
  Her sash is a lot different that what was available to the GS in the 60's.  At least we can decipher the larger, colorful, more detailed badges they wore back then.  As for selling cookies or even jamboree tickets (I did as a boy scout), there have been changes.  We sold these things door-to-door in the 60's usually without a chaperone.  The boy scouts, solo; the girl scouts, 2 or more with one or more holding the boxes of cookies.  Now it is in front of a grocer or through someone in your office who has a girl scout daughter. 
  Joelene
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: NikaPlaidypus on January 10, 2012, 11:43:56 PM
One commenter there is especially slimy and I'm enjoying dissecting him.  :)
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: Joelene9 on January 11, 2012, 12:18:08 AM
  Another commenter:  I like her.  She's trying to tell the rest of the commenters the difference between a transgender and a gay person.  Another wrote:  [Dr. Seuss had it right "A person is a person no matter how they identify"].  A lot of people are seeing through the YouTube poster's snobbery.
  Joelene
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: cindianna_jones on January 11, 2012, 12:37:17 AM
"uh.... I'm just yur avrege merican bat tha gilr in the vidio looks like a terrist to me"

Throw it back at 'em.  If they're genderphobic, call them terrorists. If they're Islamophobic, call them un-American.  Shoot, I don't know. What can we do with people who have this intrinsic need to hate someone?

Why can't we all just get along?

Since my surgery... going on 25 years I think, I honestly can not recall a single situation where I have actually seen another nude woman! Please, I'd love to hear one of those charmers call me a pervert. I'm sure I could counter with something snappy and relevant.

And little kids are sex perverts? Oh my, this goes way too far. We all know the trauma, the loneliness, the <fill in the blank> of growing up as our own worst stranger.

Give me a frakkin break.

Who's selling cookies?  I'll buy them. I can't eat them, so I'll give them to someone else.  I support the girl scouts in this decision one hundred percent. Go Girl Scouts!

Cindi
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: V M on January 11, 2012, 01:03:58 AM
I support the girl scouts in this decision one hundred percent. Go Girl Scouts!

Cindi



+1 on that  :)


Anyone selling girl scout cookies?  I'm buying.

Yup!!! Me too  :)

Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: heatherrose on January 11, 2012, 01:08:14 AM


+2

Buying a case of cookies this year.
Not the mint ones though.


Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: kelly_aus on January 11, 2012, 02:26:40 AM
My comment didn't seem to be approved.. I wonder if it was due to the fact it didn't agree with the bigotry and was somewhat educational..   :icon_evil_laugh:
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: NikaPlaidypus on January 11, 2012, 02:30:50 AM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on January 11, 2012, 12:37:17 AM
"uh.... I'm just yur avrege merican bat tha gilr in the vidio looks like a terrist to me"

Throw it back at 'em.  If they're genderphobic, call them terrorists. If they're Islamophobic, call them un-American.  Shoot, I don't know. What can we do with people who have this intrinsic need to hate someone?

I'd much rather dissect their arguments or use satire to show how their beliefs are pure twaddle.  A hostile response could trigger a defensive reaction.  Education, tolerance, and understanding are my goal. 

Quote from: Cindi Jones on January 11, 2012, 12:37:17 AM
Why can't we all just get along?

Because god made us transgender perverts?

Quote from: Cindi Jones on January 11, 2012, 12:37:17 AM
And little kids are sex perverts? Oh my, this goes way too far. We all know the trauma, the loneliness, the <fill in the blank> of growing up as our own worst stranger.

Give me a frakkin break.

Some commenters there can't seem to separate gender identity and sexual orientation.  Transgender = pervert.  Transgender girl = penis.  Penis + Pervert = rape.  If they had compassion and empathy and knew and learned the transgender rape and death statistics, perhaps they would be a bit more understanding.  We're more likely to be the target of sexual violence than their little girls are.
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: NikaPlaidypus on January 11, 2012, 02:31:39 AM
Quote from: kelly_aus on January 11, 2012, 02:26:40 AM
My comment didn't seem to be approved.. I wonder if it was due to the fact it didn't agree with the bigotry and was somewhat educational..   :icon_evil_laugh:

Some comments of mine took a while for moderator approval.  One took about five minutes.
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: spacial on January 11, 2012, 07:25:45 AM
I've watched this through as I felt it was appropriate. Though my initial reaction was to stop within the first 30 secs when I realised this is more about the child than what she might have to say.

The girl is child. A precocious one, certainly, but still a child.

Seems to be rather desperate that those in the US are resorting to this. The whole point of democracy is that, while everyone should have a right to express their views, others should have an equal opportunity to respond.

If I were in the US now, I would be feeling very uncomfortable responding to this child, simply for fear of harming her emotionally.

Hopefully, our community and others will allow this child to grow up as all children should. To hold and express her views, however much we abhor the way she is being clearly manipulated by her parents here.

And wish her well.
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: Devlyn on January 11, 2012, 07:38:56 AM
Boycott? I wouldn't stop buying Girl Scout cookies if Satan was selling them! Hugs, Devlyn
Title: 14-Year-Old Tosses Her Cookies When Girl Scouts Accept Trans Member
Post by: Shana A on January 12, 2012, 10:33:51 AM
14-Year-Old Tosses Her Cookies When Girl Scouts Accept Trans Member

http://www.queerty.com/14-year-old-tosses-her-cookies-when-girl-scouts-accept-trans-member-20120111/ (http://www.queerty.com/14-year-old-tosses-her-cookies-when-girl-scouts-accept-trans-member-20120111/)

Taylor, a friendly-looking 14-year-old girl, has posted this video calling for a boycott of Girl Scout cookies because the Girls Scouts of the USA accepts transgender girls in its troops.

Is there a badge for intolerance we don't know about?

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Girl Scout Launches Cookie Boycott Campaign After Organization's Inclusion Of Transgender Child (VIDEO)

First Posted: 1/11/12 11:39 AM ET Updated: 1/12/12 09:59 AM ET

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/girl-scout-cookie-boycott-transgender_n_1199260.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/girl-scout-cookie-boycott-transgender_n_1199260.html)

A California-based teen is hoping to spearhead a national boycott of Girl Scout cookies after the organization's controversial decision to admit a 7-year-old transgender child to a Colorado troop this past fall.

The girl, which World News Daily has identified only as Taylor from Ventura County, Calif., appears in a YouTube video in which she claims her organization is using proceeds from sales of the popular cookies to "[promote] the desires of a small handful of people."
Title: Transphobic Girl Scout Calls For Boycott Of Girl Scout Cookie Sale
Post by: Shana A on January 12, 2012, 12:15:58 PM
Thursday, January 12, 2012
Transphobic Girl Scout Calls For Boycott Of Girl Scout Cookie Sale
Posted by Monica Roberts at 2:00 AM

http://transgriot.blogspot.com/2012/01/transphobic-girl-scout-calls-for.html (http://transgriot.blogspot.com/2012/01/transphobic-girl-scout-calls-for.html)

The Girl Scouts will be celebrating their 100th anniversary of their founding in Savannah, GA by Juliette "Daisy" Gordon Low this year.

But it's shaping up to be a tumultuous and drama filled centennial year because of the renewed conservafool attacks on the organization.

Some of the conservafools have a problem with transchild Bobbi Montoya being admitted into a Colorado Girl Scout troop.

[...]

Now we have more conservahatred and transphobia being pimped by an alleged Girl Scout named Taylor from Ventura County, California.   She's seeking to start a boycott of the cookie sale that pulls in $750 million annually because she has a problem with transgirls being admitted into the organization.     

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Lies, Bigotry, & the Girl Scouts
Posted by Misty at Wednesday, January 11, 2012

http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2012/01/lies-bigotry-girl-scouts.html (http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2012/01/lies-bigotry-girl-scouts.html)

[Content note: transphobia]

Back in 2010, an outright lie manufactured a controversy regarding the Girl Scouts (GSUSA). The Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute published that during an event, the Young Women's Caucus (which took place during the 54th Session of the Commission on the Status of Women at the United Nations), materials (this, .pdf) by the International Planned Parenthood Federation were distributed. While that would not inherently be an issue, in my opinion, it was An Issue™ to this religious group that blew up over the internet and various "right wing" media.

Of course, it was, as I said, an outright lie. The Young Women's Caucus was an event attended by four groups: GSUSA, UNICEF's Working Group on Girls, Girls Learn International, and The Grail. The participants were never given any materials beyond the statement they were working on writing themselves and the event was only open to the participants in those groups--no one else was allowed attendance. Eventually, the National Federation for Catholic Youth Ministry looked into the "issue" themselves and released a statement in support of the Scouts th
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: V M on January 12, 2012, 10:40:26 PM
Do you suppose I'd get in any trouble if I went about selling cookies in this outfit?

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa248.e.akamai.net%2Forigin-cdn.volusion.com%2Fuojqk.vnksq%2Fv%2Fvspfiles%2Fphotos%2FROMA-1340-2.jpg%3F1321955110&hash=747448037e2e939ec46c25cb07467313fa627110)
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: Tammy Hope on January 13, 2012, 03:04:46 AM
According to some replies on a youtube re-play video which was captured before the original was made private, the girl is in face the daughter of "Honest Girl Scouts" founder Susan Riedley.

https://ww (https://ww)­w.facebook­.com/profi­le.php?id=­1000001275­00156&sk=w­all

For those who missed the video, it can be seen here:

http://www (http://www)­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=TD41W5mIW­mY&feature­=related

If the charge is true - and Riedly was active in the comments thread when this story appeared on Christian Post for what that's worth, then it's hard to imagine the girl is anything but a puppet.

One of the comments also claimed the girl was not, in fact, actually a Girl Scout, though I'm unsure what the source is for that claim.


the former claim is apparently originally found here:

http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/bigoted_girl_scout_wants_national_cookie_boycott_over_transge (http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/bigoted_girl_scout_wants_national_cookie_boycott_over_transge)

Since the name on the youtube account was honsetgirlscouts it's a pretty solid guess.

Quote
The contact information for HonestGirlScout.com seems to be a fake...

"The Universe
123 Main Street
Monterey Park, California 90063
United States"

...but there is a seemingly viable email address for the administrative contact:

riedley@earthlink.net

Which would seem to be a Susan Riedley, the editor of HonestGirlScouts.com

(according to http://www.christianpost.com/news/teen-girl-scout-member-calls-for-boycott-over-groups-transgender-policy-66506/ (http://www.christianpost.com/news/teen-girl-scout-member-calls-for-boycott-over-groups-transgender-policy-66506/))

Just happening to do a Google search for "Taylor Riedley"

brings up the photo at

http://dailynews.mycapture.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=20357032&event=591697&CategoryID=26304 (http://dailynews.mycapture.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=20357032&event=591697&CategoryID=26304)

Which does seem like it could be a younger version of the bigoted scout...

If true, that would mean she was the daughter of this "Editor"—perhaps raised in this bad situation her entire life.

so basically the girls a puppet. And her mom hung her out there to make her the face who would feel the backlash.
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: Tammy Hope on January 13, 2012, 03:08:57 AM
speaking of backlash! Enjoy:

Girl Scouts accepts trans-gendered boys... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqmxj16q19Y&feature=related#)

Do NOT Boycott Girl Scout Cookies! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3CbLpj-K9o&feature=related#)

Against boycotting girl scout cookies!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwluvEP4Ccs&feature=related#)

Response to GSUSA 'Boycott Cookies' Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWxOPvwfTso&feature=related#)

Response to "GSUSA_Transgenders" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ey8tWsyLPtk#)

Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: Tammy Hope on January 13, 2012, 03:15:04 AM
More!

Response: Honestgirlscouts's Cookie Boycott (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-hnmDS0mB8&feature=related#)

Do NOT Boycott Girl Scout Cookies! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3CbLpj-K9o&feature=related#)

Response to Girl's call to BOYCOTT GIRL SCOUT COOKIES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpcO7PmDBnI&feature=related#)

On Transgender Girl Scouts... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxWM3dxfbX0&feature=related#)

Video response to the Boycott Girl Scout Cookies video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fItEeuXBGso&feature=related#)


There are several more responses, I've yet to see a supportive one.

Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: Joelene9 on January 13, 2012, 03:47:32 AM
Tammy,
  Thanks for the info! Good find.
  Joelene
Title: Girl Scout's Cookie Boycott: Buck Angel, Transgender Former Scout, Rebukes Taylo
Post by: Shana A on January 13, 2012, 09:06:22 AM
Girl Scout's Cookie Boycott: Buck Angel, Transgender Former Scout, Rebukes Taylor's YouTube Plea (VIDEO)

First Posted: 1/12/12 04:47 PM ET Updated: 1/12/12 11:09 PM ET

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/12/girl-scouts-cookie-boycott-transgender-rebuttal_n_1202828.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/12/girl-scouts-cookie-boycott-transgender-rebuttal_n_1202828.html)

A California-based Girl Scout's planned cookie sale boycott following her organization's decision to accept transgender youth into its troops has sparked furor from lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) rights advocates as well as numerous other groups.

One former scout, however, who happens to be transgender is now speaking out in favor of Girl Scouts' all-encompassing policy. "When I was growing up, I was a Girl Scout," Buck Angel says in the clip. "I was born as a girl, but I always knew I was a guy...they accepted me into the Girl Scout troop and everyone was loving and giving and it was never an issue."
Title: Girl Scout Video: What Were Her Parents Thinking?
Post by: Shana A on January 13, 2012, 09:30:15 AM
Lisa Belkin
Senior Columnist on Life/Work/Family, Huffington Post

Girl Scout Video: What Were Her Parents Thinking?
Posted: 1/12/12 11:52 AM ET

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-belkin/girl-scout-video-what-wer_b_1201985.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-belkin/girl-scout-video-what-wer_b_1201985.html)

I shall be buying extra Girl Scout Cookies this year. How about you?

Watching the smug video of a Girl Scout from California as she went viral yesterday asking us to boycott those cookies as a protest against -- gasp -- the policy that allows troops to include transgender children who live as girls, all I could think was "what were her parents thinking?"
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: dalebert on January 13, 2012, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: Tammy Hope on January 13, 2012, 03:04:46 AM
For those who missed the video, it can be seen here:

http://www (http://www)­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=TD41W5mIW­mY&feature­=related

I think that link's bad too now. It's jumping me to YouTube.com for some reason, no error msg. Does anyone know if the video can be viewed anywhere right now?
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: spacial on January 13, 2012, 05:14:01 PM
dalebert

The link in question is now closed, presumably by the one who owns the YouTube page.

It would seem that, having been caught in a rather obvious scam, involving waving her daughter infront of a camera to emphasise a bunch of utterly specious claims, by one Susan Riedley, the editor of HonestGirlScouts.com

I understand it has been posted by others on YouTube, but sadly, I can't say where.
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: cindianna_jones on January 13, 2012, 06:12:09 PM
These are some excellent rebutals! On the fly.... not prepared. Thanks Tammy for posting them.

Cindi
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: dalebert on January 15, 2012, 01:07:15 AM
Quote from: spacial on January 13, 2012, 05:14:01 PM
I understand it has been posted by others on YouTube, but sadly, I can't say where.

Thank you. I was able to find a version that's watchable. It was linked from another thread here.

(scroll down)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-calls-boycott-girl-scout-cookies-transgender-members-article-1.1005123 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-calls-boycott-girl-scout-cookies-transgender-members-article-1.1005123)
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: NikaPlaidypus on January 17, 2012, 06:56:18 PM
Santorum dodges the issue:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/santorum-neutral-on-transgender-girl-scouts (http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/santorum-neutral-on-transgender-girl-scouts)
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: Hermione01 on January 17, 2012, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: Tammy Hope on January 13, 2012, 03:04:46 AM
According to some replies on a youtube re-play video which was captured before the original was made private, the girl is in face the daughter of "Honest Girl Scouts" founder Susan Riedley.

so basically the girls a puppet. And her mom hung her out there to make her the face who would feel the backlash.

In years to come this girl will be so embarrassed about the whole thing. Her mum should be ashamed of herself.  >:(
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: cindianna_jones on January 19, 2012, 07:34:49 AM
Quote from: NikorNiki on January 17, 2012, 06:56:18 PM
Santorum dodges the issue:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/santorum-neutral-on-transgender-girl-scouts (http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/santorum-neutral-on-transgender-girl-scouts)

Doesn't Santorum ooze by issues? Inquiring minds want to know! 

Cindi

<Google Santorum if you don't know what I'm talking about>
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: Joelene9 on January 19, 2012, 03:00:24 PM
  Good for Santorum!  Politicians tend to do more harm than good when dealing with private organizations especially with good intentions!  It is best for politicians to stay out of this.  This is a GSA item. 
  Joelene
Title: Re: NOT YOUR MOM'S THIN MINTS Teen Girl Scout calls for cookie boycott
Post by: Jamie D on January 19, 2012, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: Joelene9 on January 19, 2012, 03:00:24 PM
  Good for Santorum!  Politicians tend to do more harm than good when dealing with private organizations especially with good intentions!  It is best for politicians to stay out of this.  This is a GSA item. 
  Joelene

Right!