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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Beverley on January 18, 2012, 07:49:18 AM

Title: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Beverley on January 18, 2012, 07:49:18 AM
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Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Kelly J. P. on January 18, 2012, 02:53:05 PM
 The worst part for me would be wanting to have a deep voice. The thought is something that my body tries to expel like a rejected organ... I absolutely quake at the thought of someone trying to acquire a deep voice, especially when the feminine one sounds so perfect to my ears.

As one would expect, my greatest regret about not starting sooner was that I didn't stop my male voice from coming. Sure, there's a solution, and I think I've done okay, but how could it ever ever compare to what could have been? To what I had lost? I don't have the potential I did. I lost a very important gift...

;D Lighthearted enough?
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: caseyyy on January 18, 2012, 02:58:39 PM
I find it surprising that some MTFs are happy to lose their sex drive. I guess, for some, the sex drive often results in unwanted body parts acting up, but I personally would hate to lose my sex drive.
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: King Malachite on January 18, 2012, 11:23:02 PM
It's funny you mention this because when I hear of some MtF's losing their muscles and getting the hair electronically removed. I think to myself "noooooooooooo if you don't want it give it to me instead I want all of your facial hair and happy trail" lol.  I think what horrifies me the most is from what I heard the genitals can shrink in size from the estrogen which is the total opposite of what I would be wanting.  I can just hear myself going "noooo don't shrink no no pleaseeee lets trade!"

Ah if only I were 200 years in the future when swapping genitals and hair etc would be as easy as blinking
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Kelly J. P. on January 19, 2012, 02:45:10 AM
 Ewwww happy trail. Yeah, can't wait to electrolysis that stuff! Much to the horror of many I'm sure.

The second-worst thing that I can imagine is guys who want to rugged-up their pretty faces. Horrible, I know. But it obviously stems from envy...  It just kills me to have this face - too many stronger features!

Ah well.


@below: Gotta say, I would certainly love breasts. Lol. What development I have has been rather painless... though lacking, and there's not much of it. >;P Rawwwwr *complain complain*
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Max on January 19, 2012, 02:47:10 AM
I feel surprised (and a little perplexed) when some MTFs are so eager to have breasts. Upper development has since made a lot of physical activities less than enjoyable... at least for me. Running, anyone? Ouch.
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Cindy on January 19, 2012, 03:35:44 AM
The Susan's swap shop could make a good profit!

I'll trade you a sack full of sperm for an ovary full of eggs. And my 10 inch (woo  ::)is she lying) weapon is tradable for a cute vagina. And yes I will take your period pain and not complain.

My Arnie biceps and upper body (she is full of it you know) are totally ready for exchange for  a nice set :embarrassed:of the girls.

Sadly not this year.

But in our dreams

Cindy
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Keaira on January 19, 2012, 05:08:33 AM
I get those period pains Cindy. First month you're like "Yay! cool! So this is what it's like." At 6 months, I had a repeating alert set on my iPod: 'Bitch alert', because I notice I get very irritable in a day or two. And then I'll start feeling icky. At 10 months, it's there, I accept it and I can't wait to get it over with. I expect by one year I'll be at the "Oh great!" like any other woman. It sucks. But I dont care, I will suffer it like every other woman in the world.

The thing that makes me laugh about the guys, WTF would you want a hairy little sack with a meat straw hanging between your legs? Do they not realize just how ideal a target they are for soccer balls and Bike frames? their like little punching bags filled with white sticky goo and pain. Or how about facial hair? the stuff is horrible. Male puberty can turn you into a yeti if your genes are right.

But, who am I to judge. I see transition as swapping one set of problems for another, only they are ones I am better suited to handle.
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Padma on January 19, 2012, 05:16:55 AM
Nothing anyone wants bothers me (apart from FFS, I'm oddly squeamish about that, gender-direction regardless). Along with the future GenitalsMart, my vote would be for a TradeYourHeight centre where someone else could have my excess 6" (fnar fnar). Seriously - it'd be great if those of us that wanted to could get adjusted to more gender-appropriate heights. It sucks being 6'3", even when I use the word Amazonian.
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: King Malachite on January 19, 2012, 05:52:58 AM
Quote from: Cindy James on January 19, 2012, 03:35:44 AM
The Susan's swap shop could make a good profit!

I'll trade you a sack full of sperm for an ovary full of eggs. And my 10 inch (woo  ::)is she lying) weapon is tradable for a cute vagina. And yes I will take your period pain and not complain.

My Arnie biceps and upper body (she is full of it you know) are totally ready for exchange for  a nice set :embarrassed:of the girls.

Sadly not this year.

But in our dreams

Cindy

I'll start the bidding at $1,000.
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Jamie D on January 19, 2012, 11:39:43 AM
Quote from: Keaira on January 19, 2012, 05:08:33 AM
I get those period pains Cindy. First month you're like "Yay! cool! So this is what it's like." At 6 months, I had a repeating alert set on my iPod: 'Bitch alert', because I notice I get very irritable in a day or two. And then I'll start feeling icky. At 10 months, it's there, I accept it and I can't wait to get it over with. I expect by one year I'll be at the "Oh great!" like any other woman. It sucks. But I dont care, I will suffer it like every other woman in the world.

Snip

That's certainly odd.  Are you cycling any of your meds?

A steady hormonal level should level out your moods, after all, you're not going to menstruate, so you're not going to have pms.
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Keaira on January 19, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
Nope, just estradiol and spiro. And yes, I realize that I shouldn't get symptoms, but I do. and it sucks!  Before HRT I just got irritable easily every month and that's it. Of course I never noticed it but my wife did. She and her sister would always tell me to take a midol when I was being bitchy. And here I thought they were kidding. The joke's on me huh? lol.

Theorys range from 'It's the meds and your body is getting used to it,' but that doesn't seem to be right. I mean how can it get used to it every month? and if that was the case, how come the date I get the symptoms has moved to an earlier time slot? it's a few days early for me. usually  the bloating, sick to my stomach-type feelings would hit around the 22nd of every month.

Another theory is possibly intersex. I'm not sure I buy that one either. I've not heard of any type of condition that would do that. Of course I haven't read through every condition so I'm not certain.

Either way, it's there and speculating doesn't change how I feel. It's another part of my life I accept, but you are welcome to post your theories too.
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Jayne on January 19, 2012, 01:47:56 PM
Quote from: Max on January 19, 2012, 02:47:10 AM
I feel surprised (and a little perplexed) when some MTFs are so eager to have breasts. Upper development has since made a lot of physical activities less than enjoyable... at least for me. Running, anyone? Ouch.

That's never going to be an issue for me, i'm asthmatic so I don't run, I wouldn't even out of a burning house  ;D
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: caseyyy on January 19, 2012, 01:51:55 PM
Quote from: Kelly J. P. on January 19, 2012, 02:45:10 AM
The second-worst thing that I can imagine is guys who want to rugged-up their pretty faces. Horrible, I know. But it obviously stems from envy...  It just kills me to have this face - too many stronger features!

I feel this way when I see a pre-estrogen MTF who looks like I would with a bit of T. It sucks, because it hurts me to be jealous of something that someone else is insecure about.
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: pebbles on January 19, 2012, 01:57:44 PM
Their are a few FTM's I speak to... dunno why seem to get along better with them. Sense of humor I guess, alot of MTFs I know tend to be very... Senstive thus not alot of fun.

You watch the expression on an FTM's face if you tease him about going bald. Even if he isn't you can usually wind him up so much about a tiny complex you know he's dwelt on... just be prepared for him to make similar remarks about your flat chest and cellulite covered legs lol :P

I find it easier to speak to FTM's after they've been on T abit that way internal ambivlience about attributes you might emotively envy or covet but intellectually you know that's WHY he has to eliminate it tends to pass.
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Beth Andrea on January 19, 2012, 02:05:46 PM
I'll often browse the FTM section, just to see what's in their thoughts...sometimes I read a post about how desirable male features are, and I start to think, "You know, they're right! Maybe I should appreciate my body+mind more..."

NAAAAAAHHHHhhhhhh....LOL! They appreciate it, they can have it!

:)
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: spacial on January 19, 2012, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: Caseyyy on January 18, 2012, 02:58:39 PM
I find it surprising that some MTFs are happy to lose their sex drive. I guess, for some, the sex drive often results in unwanted body parts acting up, but I personally would hate to lose my sex drive.

I've wondered about this as well. But more especially, the differing sex drives between g females and g males.

I prefer to view sex drive as being a biological function while gender and gender identity, as being social. I make that distinction because the sex drives are just so very different. My time here in Susans' seems to emphasise that this is largely biological since FtMs and MtF seem to often, but not invariably, express sex drive not dissimilar to the rest of their biological gender.

Men, of course, have a reputation for being the aggressive sex, while women, the recessessive, submissive.

I think the reality is that g men are naturally designed to make as many females as possible bear off spring, as a strategy to ensure the survival of their genes. Their second priority is maintaining their position within the male peer group. Once they have passed on their genetics, they seek to return to their priority, which is maintaining their place within the male group.

G females on the other hand, approach the survival of their genes in an entirely different way. They invest huge personal energy and time into a small number of off spring. Their priority is ensuring the male stays and protects them and their offsping. The male peer group acts in competition, to an extent, to their needs. Sexual contact becomes more than simple reproduction, it is a survival strategy.

Wonder if anyone has any observations on this approach?
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: 0451 on January 19, 2012, 03:05:04 PM
Wanting top surgery.   :o  I loves ma boobs!  I never realized just how awesome they were until I had a pair.
Title: Re: A lighthearted look at journeying in the other direction
Post by: Padma on January 19, 2012, 03:08:49 PM
I like to think of my eased libido as "The Overthrowing of the Testostyranny" ;D. I had always felt my libido to be like a demanding monster, and the easing of it (or rather, its gradual replacement by a more demonstrably female kind of libido with a sense of conscious choice built into it) was an extraordinary relief, even if I do sometimes regret not being able to get it up. I don't miss the testostyranny at all.