This Morning sex addict Crystal Warren reveals:
I used to be a man
By EMILY NASH and EMMA LITTLE
Published: Today at 00:05
THE woman who stunned telly viewers by revealing she has slept with more than 1,000 men told The Sun yesterday: "I used to be a MAN."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4105691/This-Morning-sex-addict-Crystal-Warren-I-used-to-be-a-man.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4105691/This-Morning-sex-addict-Crystal-Warren-I-used-to-be-a-man.html)
Crystal Warren, born Christopher Snowden, changed gender in 2005.
The cougar, 42, who revealed her sex addiction to This Morning host Eamonn Holmes, said she told few lovers her secret but added: "They never asked."
Sex addict Crystal last night admitted many of her 1,000-plus lovers will be furious when they learn she used to be a man.
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'There'll be some angry men out there!' Sex addict who claims she had slept with 1,000 men... used to be a MAN herself
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 12:41 PM on 3rd February 2012
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095885/Crystal-Warren-Sex-addict-slept-1-000-men-used-MAN-herself.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095885/Crystal-Warren-Sex-addict-slept-1-000-men-used-MAN-herself.html)
A woman who revealed she has slept with 1,000 men has made another startling confession - she used to be a man herself.
Crystal Warren admits that there could be 'a lot of angry men out there' after they learn her secret.
The 42-year-old appeared on This Morning earlier this week to discuss her sex addiction - prompting Eamonn Holmes to ask why she hadn't turned to prostitution.
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Sex addict reveals she used to be a man
A woman who revealed on a television chat show that she was addicted to sex has admitted she used to be a man.
By Daily Telegraph Reporter
7:11AM GMT 03 Feb 2012
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/9058445/Sex-addict-reveals-she-used-to-be-a-man.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/9058445/Sex-addict-reveals-she-used-to-be-a-man.html)
Crystal Warren was born Christopher Snowden but underwent surgery to change gender in 2005.
The 42-year-old spoke of her sex addiction with ITV's This Morning presenter Eamonn Holmes.
She shocked viewers by claiming to have slept with more than 1,000 lovers, few of whom knew she was born male.
She told The Sun newspaper: "I'm scared there will be a lot of angry men out there reading this but I have to tell the truth.
I wonder what Ray Blanchard and Michael Bailey would had said about this. :laugh:
My first reaction is perhaps a bit selfish, but I think of how people will use this story as more fodder against transexuals.
another awesome role model. yay. .
Let's hope for her sake that she doesn't wind up on the memorial list of those who have been beaten to death for being outed following a sexual tryst with a man! My gut feeling here is that she's just put herself in a bad situation because you can bet that at least a few out of that 1000 man army will be fuming. Some men will go into a rage when they find that they have been fooled. How many examples of this do we need before we begin to wise up and be up front with a prospective lover. Better to see him walk than to be stomped to death for not being honest!
She seems pretty cool actually, haha. Good for her!
On a side note this just proves how easy it is for women to get sex.
I'll have to admit I have never heard of this woman. No doubt she is quite well known but I don't read tabloids or watch enough TV to squeeze in that chat show. (Occasionally, when I hear of someone in Big Brother or similar, I have to confess to not having a clue who they are either).
While part of me feels some indignation, both for the excessive sex and the exploration of transgender. Most of me thinks, well done that woman. Living the dream.
If I can climb down from my high horse, I would have to confess that I can't see a lot of harm in excessive sex, provided it isn't causing you, the partner nor anyone else, any harm and in this case, that would seem to be the situation. I appreciate it's kinda fashionable right now to confess to sex addiction and then claim you need help, but my understanding of these things is the problem factor, which clearly isn't there.
That only leaves the social indignation.
But very nice for her. If any men who may have slept with her now feel any problem then serves you right for telling.
I don't know. Call me crazy but praising anyone for being addicted to anything is kinda sad.
I am not dismissing her as less of a person for having a lot of sex, it's just concerning to see people say "good for her" or "she's awesome" for having an addiction regardless of the addiction.
I find it admirable that she is probably confronting the issue of an addiction so I would at least praise her for recognizing the issue but I wouldn't praise her for sleeping with over 1000 men because she has an addiction. That would be like praising someone for emotional eating rather than praising them for getting the help to stop it.
Plus, I don't think it was a good idea to come out as a transgender on national television and talked about the thousand men she was with. One of them who spent the night with her could be homophobic and found out. It only takes one crazy, insane, bigoted person she slept with for making a threat.
I do congratulate her for getting help.
Quote from: Shantel on February 03, 2012, 11:19:03 AM
Let's hope for her sake that she doesn't wind up on the memorial list of those who have been beaten to death for being outed following a sexual tryst with a man! My gut feeling here is that she's just put herself in a bad situation because you can bet that at least a few out of that 1000 man army will be fuming. Some men will go into a rage when they find that they have been fooled. How many examples of this do we need before we begin to wise up and be up front with a prospective lover. Better to see him walk than to be stomped to death for not being honest!
Ehm, it seems quite obvious to me that those men
knew and saw who they're were 'dealing' with...before having sex with her.
Why should that be obvious?
I mean, she has very good looks, had srs, a very feminine voice,so why should those men knew about her.
It's a possibility she puts herself in danger now, but men has to ask theirselves why they should be angry, after all, no man was forced to have sex with her.
Quote from: annette on February 04, 2012, 05:42:37 AM
Why should that be obvious?
I mean, she has very good looks, had srs, a very feminine voice,so why should those men knew about her.
It's a possibility she puts herself in danger now, but men has to ask theirselves why they should be angry, after all, no man was forced to have sex with her.
I so agree with you honey!
Axélle
Being a MtF transsexual and having sex with a man and telling him later, "Oh by the way, I used to be a man" is an extremely dangerous thing to do. There are graveyards all across the globe that can attest to it.
Quote from: Dahlia on February 04, 2012, 05:08:25 AM
Ehm, it seems quite obvious to me that those men knew and saw who they're were 'dealing' with...before having sex with her.
Why would u think it was obvious? Are you thinking that she told everyone first she is trans or are you saying she doesn't pass enough to have sex without getting clocked?
Oh good, another shining example being set here to perpetuate the mainstream view that trans people are either crazy or only relevant in weird sexual contexts.
FWIW, an addiction is not empowering. It's a problem. And you can bet this is only a headline because some money changed hands... money that was not earned at the job it says she couldn't keep because sex was too much of a priority. And the money changed hands because people love that headline: "I used to be a man."
As expected of the Sun, always classy.
I have read an article about her when she was interviewed and saw a short clip and i must say she passes really well, I didn't give her a second glace.
Except, there was a picture of her wearing open sandals and noticed her feet are rather big, but i thought to myself "oh, women really do come in all shapes and sizes" :D
But i really hate that "I used to be a man" phrase, some transsexuals use when coming out.
Quote from: Mari on February 04, 2012, 02:25:34 PM
Except, there was a picture of her wearing open sandals and noticed her feet are rather big, but i thought to myself "oh, women really do come in all shapes and sizes" :D
Wouldn't it be just too funny if all the females that in pass-threads are used as examples for Bio-females with "Masculine" traits, would in actuality be MTF's? :laugh:
Quote from: Dahlia on February 04, 2012, 05:08:25 AM
Ehm, it seems quite obvious to me that those men knew and saw who they're were 'dealing' with...before having sex with her.
I could ofcourse be wrong, but I really do not think that the majority, if anyone, of the guys she had sex with post-op, actually knew about her Bio-Sex. I am not saying it to be politite, but because I simply think she passed. Or atleast to the majority.
I mean, her voice is female, her apparence is female and unless she have drastically changed her looks very recently from having looked very male earlier on, she should not have had any bigger problem with passing, if any.
In any case, I really hope she used precaution. If not, she should head to the nearest Central as soon as possible for a pregnancy test.
Ick! She'll get the ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s now. The lot of those people unsavory. The comments have been closed but judging by some of those, she may be in danger.
Joelene
Quote from: Joelene9 on February 04, 2012, 03:30:52 PM
Ick! She'll get the ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s now. The lot of those people unsavory. The comments have been closed but judging by some of those, she may be in danger.
Joelene
->-bleeped-<-->-bleeped-<-s, atleast generally, despises Post-ops, as it is the pre-op body they are specifically attracted to.
She will probably, however, get lots of interested Admirers after her now, as Admires, in opposite of the ->-bleeped-<-s, are attracted to the trans-concept itself in a T-person and not the actual Physique.
I'd never heard of her before this. How exactly is she known? What is her claim to fame, so to speak?
Quote from: dalebert on February 04, 2012, 04:33:17 PM
I'd never heard of her before this. How exactly is she known? What is her claim to fame, so to speak?
It seems, at the moment, in the UK generally, being a celebrity is about having previously been a celebrity.
TV is filled to bursting with so called, reality shows, mostly featuring celebrities. When you're especially bored, you can check up the background to some of them and most, it seems are famous for being on a celebrity show.
I seem to recall, this woman made some claim, previously, to being a sex addict. Presumably that didn't attract the attention she was looking for, so she's come out with this little titbit.
Incidently, addictions are not my speciality, but I'm pretty sure, based upon what I can recall from my own medical studies, that so called sex addiction isn't an addiction, its a compulsion. On the surface the same thing, but actually very different.
An addiction is where there is a dependence upon a substance, nicotine, alcohol, drugs and so on. Withdrawal produced symptoms. But, more importantly, perhaps crutially, if the substance is given in an alternative form, such as nicotine gum, then the craving will disappear.
A compulsion is a repeated behaviour that has a negative effect. Such as compulsive hand washing. I've had patients who couldn't stop washing their hands and they had literally washed their skin to the point where it bleeds profusely. Other compulsions are continually checking the front door, continual body movements, many other things.
The important point though is that stopping the behaviour produces an excessive anxiety condition where the patient can even feint, or harm themselves in other ways.
A smiling, seeming well balanced woman, managing to pull even a few men, let alone 100, then talk about it, so cheerfully on TV, isn't really obsessive compulsive neurotic material. These people are generally miserable, anxious, in poor physical conditon and actually quite ill.
No I do need to qualify this by pointing out that, in the last 20 or so years, especially, there have been a whole library of new conditions, invented. They mostly have enigmatic three letter titles and require the services of expensive therapists. )In laymens terms, baloney. :laugh:)
I find there is a lot of projection going on when it comes to addictions and compulsions also. Someone sees something and thinks "I wouldn't enjoy that activity so it must be a compulsion." Or they have been unable to control their consumption of a particular substance and assume that no one else can either and see a substance itself as being addictive that may not be, at least not for everyone. Of course, some substances are physically addictive, like heroin. Others are consumed in moderation by some people. But in the mind of a person who was unable to control their use of something, they might see someone else using it in moderation and immediately assume that person is addicted.
Quote from: annette on February 04, 2012, 05:42:37 AM
Why should that be obvious?
I mean, she has very good looks, had srs, a very feminine voice,so why should those men knew about her.
It's a possibility she puts herself in danger now, but men has to ask theirselves why they should be angry, after all, no man was forced to have sex with her.
Maybe there's something wrong with my eyes but in the first picture I see a fairly masculine face under a most obvious wig, broad shoulders, an almost barrel chest with boobs, no waist, narrow hips and too thin thighs and legs...and I bet most men know something about facial and fysical anatomy.
Quote from: Shantel on February 04, 2012, 10:20:41 AM
Being a MtF transsexual and having sex with a man and telling him later, "Oh by the way, I used to be a man" is an extremely dangerous thing to do. There are graveyards all across the globe that can attest to it.
I absolutely agree, what good is coming out of this disclosing this information, Iv had sex with most of my boyfriends in the past who had absolutely no idea I was trans, straight guys who where perfectly satisfied with me as a woman, disclosing information which is not going to do any good but cause grief, sometimes its better ''let sleeping dogs lie'' but of course every sitruation is different, now if a relationship is going to the next level well then maybe disclose, when I got engaged to my fiancé, I tolded him my history, he is now my husband.
I think she is just doing this for attention, she certainly is no role model, sleeping with a 1000 men, being trans has nothing to do with it, any woman with self respect doesn't behave like this, I certainly don't, because Im a lady.
Quote from: pretty pauline on February 06, 2012, 09:32:15 AM
I absolutely agree, what good is coming out of this disclosing this information. When I got engaged to my fiancé, I told him my history, he is now my husband. I'm a lady.
Yes you are a real lady! This is the correct and only safe way for any woman with any common sense to behave in a relationship with a man. If perchance he had demurred, then you would have known up front that the relationship would not be worth pursuing because it would be obvious that he didn't love you or even respect you enough to consider intimacy with you. Obviously it was abundantly clear that he does love you dearly. On the other hand when a woman doesn't disclose to him what he will eventually discover on his own, then she is taking a huge risk. I don't know how many of the annual memorials I have attended for murdered transsexuals over the years, but the numbers get worse and the list grows longer and in many cases those deaths were preventable. It is heartbreaking!