Currently watching the movie on Netflix. Anybody else on here seen it? It's really good!
I've partly watched it. I've heard it can be heartbreaking to some as well. But I found what I had seen to be pretty powerful stuff.
I have. I liked it, but it's difficult to watch because so much obviously hits home.
It's definitely a powerful movie and I will definitely have to prepare the tissues soon!
Soldier's Girl was pretty powerful too.
Haven't seen or heard about that one, I must check it out!
Are these trans movies?
Quote from: JenJen2011 on March 08, 2012, 07:50:07 AM
Are these trans movies?
Mhmhm.
I cried too hard at this movie.
Even though I'm not ftm.
I never shed a tear in an MTF movie though. Odd :P
About to watch it...
Boy or not, probably gonna cry
i don't like being constantly reminded of this movie, something my mom likes to do on occasion. but i felt really uncomfortable reading "It's really good!" umm, brandon was raped and murdered. that movie is powerful and moving but incredibly sad and should come with a trigger warning. i'm sorry but it's kinda like me popping over to the ladies thread and saying, "have you seen the Gwen Araujo story? it's really good!"
I'm sure when they said it's really good they were not referring to brandon being raped and murdered. Don't take it to heart. I thought the Gwen Araujo movie was good and I'm MTF. It shows people how we're normal and just want to live our lives but cold-hearted people exist and cause us harm because of it.
I think these movies are good for opening up people's eyes and for them to stop thinking Jerry Springer every time they hear the word transsexual.
Quote from: JenJen2011 on March 08, 2012, 09:01:11 AM
I think these movies are good for opening up people's eyes and for them to stop thinking Jerry Springer every time they hear the word transsexual.
A thousand times this!
Quote from: JenJen2011 on March 08, 2012, 09:01:11 AM
I'm sure when they said it's really good they were not referring to brandon being raped and murdered. Don't take it to heart. I thought the Gwen Araujo movie was good and I'm MTF. It shows people how we're normal and just want to live our lives but cold-hearted people exist and cause us harm because of it.
I think these movies are good for opening up people's eyes and for them to stop thinking Jerry Springer every time they hear the word transsexual.
I know, :/ the water heater got me up early so I may have been extra touchy so I'm sorry if I came off like an ass. But I still hate being reminded of these stories, they skew my parents thought process. I like seeing success stories on YouTube :)
Great movie, but really sad as others have said.
It was an impressive movie.
Generally, in the US movies and media, they seem to be more tolerant of violence, but very picky on sex and eroticism.
Barbie~~
have seen it but didnt like it.
it might have been cause of my age, I got the felling this was what would happent to me as being trans.
because of that I didnt like it.
I liked soilder girl better, also very sad, but also very beutiful.
My favorite trans movies are still non of these, Romeos, and beutiful boxer, or la vire en rosa.
I like them when they have some sort of happy ending,
I can't watch Boys Don't Cry. It's too triggering :(
Quote from: Keaira on March 08, 2012, 04:36:43 AM
Soldier's Girl was pretty powerful too.
OH GOD Soldier's Girl ;_____; I cried when I watched it, and I never cry over movies.
Boys Don't Cry was really good too. I watched a documentary about Brandon Teena after watching the movie, and it made it just that much more upsetting.
When I posted that this movie was really good I never meant the rape scene. I just think that the whole production of the movie and the awareness it shows is really good. Also I understand this movie is hard to watch for some of you and I completely understand. I like to think though that our past makes us stronger, and I know all of you are so much stronger now! :)
Honestly I just heard about that movie last semester in my Criminal Justice class. We had to watch documentary. I'm surprised I don't remember too much about the commentary from the class afterwards.
I must be the only person who doesn't like this movie. Not because it's triggering, sad, depressing whatever. But because it kind of sucks imo. The first half is extremely boring and I found Brandon's character to be dishonest and unlikable. I couldn't relate to him at all.
Quote from: Adio on March 08, 2012, 07:29:42 PM
I must be the only person who doesn't like this movie. Not because it's triggering, sad, depressing whatever. But because it kind of sucks imo. The first half is extremely boring and I found Brandon's character to be dishonest and unlikable. I couldn't relate to him at all.
It's based on a true story. They took the character profile from what people said Brandon was really like.
I personally didn't like the movie because it makes transition terrifying for me. I've already been physically tortured in the past just for being "different" and that was nothing to do with sexuality or gender. In hindsight, I wish i hadn't watched this movie.
Quote from: Kyyn on March 08, 2012, 08:23:02 PM
It's based on a true story. They took the character profile from what people said Brandon was really like.
I know. Because I didn't actually know Brandon personally, I'm not going to make any judgments on the actual person. But the character, I just couldn't stand him. I've read about Brandon and what really happened. I'm not sure whether Brandon actually identified as trans or not. Before I offend someone, I should probably just end my thoughts here.
Quote from: Adio on March 08, 2012, 08:27:34 PM
I'm not sure whether Brandon actually identified as trans or not. Before I offend someone, I should probably just end my thoughts here.
From my first introduction of him in class the documentary we watched it made Brandon seem unclear of his gender identity so I have no clue either.
I've chosen not to watch it. While I appreciate that it is based on a real event, I'm sick of seeing stories of transpeople's lives as riddled with violence. There is some truth to that, but people just get the harmful idea that being trans means you'll have a horrible life no matter what.
I've watched both Boys Don't Cry and Soldier's Girl. Both were upsetting to me. Makes me think more about the possible negative aspects of transitioning- like murder.....But I'll try not to think too much about it. I want my friends to watch these movies, but I know they won't.
Trans or not, they did not have to make those decisions.
Well, who knows the reasons you did what you did
I can't help but to wonder why
You lived your life as a big fat lie
You act like you had no responsibilities
Cause if you did it's a bet that you wouldn't be
Stealin', beggin', hustlin' and schemin'
You coulda got a job but did you know the meaning of work
I'm talkin' 'bout an honest day's pay
But you was too lazy to be that way
Always tryin' to take the easy ride, that's what they tell me
So I don't doubt it for a moment, not for a sec
Because you lacked all your self-respect
But it's too late, for you, that is
...
I wanna forget the little bit I know
And make sure that I never sink so low
That, and meth is a hell of a drug.
Quote from: tekla on March 09, 2012, 01:21:34 AM
That, and meth is a hell of a drug.
I'm glad somebody finally said this. I have a hard time seeing Brandon's murder as a hate crime against trans people considering the circumstances he put himself in. It's never a good idea to screw a tweaked-out redneck's girlfriend and then hang around town talking ->-bleeped-<- to him about it.
I lived and worked in that region, at that time (when the killings went down). The seeming eternal bleakness of the winters alone drives people crazy. And the meth thing was huge in the Midwest long before anyone else besides Hell's Angles noticed it. You may not choose to be trans or not, but you do have to make a deliberate choose to be a low-life grifter. There is really nothing honorable in this story at all, all the people are pretty crappy human beings, all are deeply flawed and caught up in the same non-existence, and like Shakespeare ends Romeo and Juliet: all are punished.
Seen it, gave me a heavy heart for all of the people who are unable to blend in, not only trans who are outed, but everyone who gets crap for just being themselves.
When I first saw that movie, many years ago, I just thought it was cool. I honestly didn't know that there was such thing as being trans, or that anyone had a choice in being a boy or a girl, because that isn't a choice where I come from. But when I saw it, and I was still young and sheltered, all I understood about the movie was that it was about a girl who dresses like a boy and gets to be seen as a boy. And I thought it was cool because that's what I wished I could do. But then I was also taught that TV isn't reality, so I thought that that's just in the movies, and I'm not really allowed to be seen as a boy. :(
I only watched a part of Boys Don't Cry because it was upsetting and seeing the actress able to pass better than I can made me a little pissed off/jealous. Overall, I enjoyed what I saw because of how well it was done, but it was still upsetting. I even watched a documentary on Brandon later on, which was interesting.
I'm watching it tomorrow with my girlfriend. She's not seen it yet. I guess I like it, but I'm not really a film person. My thoughts end there.