If before you stepped on this planet God gave you 2 options to choose to incarnate on planet earth as either
1. a Biological woman who can bare children etc... but looking very ordinary and common like 'Miss Everybody'.
2. than to be Sex Bomb and very beautiful and passable Trans woman at the end but at the cost of suffering the worst of the worst almost your entire life to reach that point.
Which would you choose? Me I go for No.2 cos I prefer Beauty. And you?
#1
Transsexuals are never beautiful. You might choose some that have had $$$$$$$'s of surgery and say they're beautiful, but they still have very obvious male features.
# 1, though I do not quite agree with the previous post.
So just a normal female for me - but that does not mean to be a frump either, um.
Too much beauty often makes mentally lazy, only relying on one's external values. It brings more often than not, plenty of disappointments – and the BIG ONE just waiting down the line when age becomes the big issue.
Axélle
#1 definately. Biggest reason would be the children. (Oh yes, I love kids. <3)
And I beg to disagree with Zoey. There are MANY beautiful transwomen out there. Some with the aid of expensive surgeries, some without.
Quote from: Renee D on March 18, 2012, 09:23:39 AM
Um, anyone or anything can be beautiful, it is not defined by having only feminine characteristics, you know.
The more you post, the more I think troll.
i'm not a troll, I just hate myself and what it seems i am.
Quote from: x zOeY x on March 18, 2012, 09:12:26 AM
#1
Transsexuals are never beautiful. You might choose some that have had $$$$$$$'s of surgery and say they're beautiful, but they still have very obvious male features.
O.o
Obvious male features can be quite beautiful.
Being able to bare children makes choice number 1 a winner for me.
I can handle being an ordinary looking woman, which is probly the most I could hope for after transition anyway.
#1. Maybe my sights aren't set as high as every other woman, but I just want to be me. Who says I still couldn't look good and attract a guy?
Quote from: x zOeY x on March 18, 2012, 09:12:26 AM
#1
Transsexuals are never beautiful. You might choose some that have had $$$$$$$'s of surgery and say they're beautiful, but they still have very obvious male features.
So do many... many xx females...
I would want to be a plain biowoman. I want to be able to have children for one. And I'd also like not to have to feel hated and rejected by all I know and love, as I would as a transwoman, beautiful or not.
Oh, and YES. There are a lot of very beautiful transwoman. Make me... very jealous. :embarrassed:
Bio-woman.
The thing that causes the most pain for me is that I will never become a mother.
NB: Just being born as a cis-woman doesn't mean your get the whole package with everything working out just fine.
Quote from: Renee D on March 18, 2012, 10:19:49 AM
The main thing to me would be not having to be concerned with whether I'm fake, not having my gender questioned by myself or others. That is what is most attractive to me about choice #1.
Same for me. At least at this point in my life. I'm not ready yet to have kids and start a family. Who knows how I'll feel about that in the future...
Quote from: Renee D on March 18, 2012, 09:23:39 AM
Um, anyone or anything can be beautiful, it is not defined by having only feminine characteristics, you know.
The more you post, the more I think troll.
Uh-huh, an obviously very visually stimulated one at that, which is always a dead give-away!
I'd prefer to just be me with all the flaws and not make a big statement and draw unwanted attention to myself. I'm sure that I speak for many here!
Number 1.
The majority of men on the planet have relationships with perfectly ordinary women, but how many men are prepared to have a relationship with a trans woman?
Too few in my experience.
Quote from: x zOeY x on March 18, 2012, 09:12:26 AM
#1
Transsexuals are never beautiful. You might choose some that have had $$$$$$$'s of surgery and say they're beautiful, but they still have very obvious male features.
Spend a few days analyzing women in places like malls, Waltmart, etc. what you may conclude is that the majority are neither very beautiful nor very feminine -according to our Victoria Secret model standards-
The beauty is not in the bones but in the soul and mind, your feminine allure -what the French call: "the I do not know what-" in the way you feel and project yourself.
I do not know your situation, but everybody can eventually pass even without surgery, it take time, Patience, practice, and more important developing you inner woman self esteem
I can feel your pain, take hart, accept my hugs and love
Quote from: Siren on March 18, 2012, 10:25:01 AM
Number 1.
The majority of men on the planet have relationships with perfectly ordinary women, but how many men are prepared to have a relationship with a trans woman?
Too few in my experience.
...and how many lesbians are prepeared to have relatioships with a transwoman ?
#2 because I have BDD and I believe there's some good to come out of being brought up as a guy.
But having to take hormones for the rest of your life really does suck.
I'd have to go with ... #1, but not because of children... it never mattered whether I had kids or not, it would be nice, but wasn't everything. I just would've liked the peace of mind... the 'no struggle' part of being a biowoman right from the start.. and by struggle I refer to the whole transition process. Just being a woman right from the start would've been awesome for me. 8)
I'd probably go with the second option, despite I'm in agreement with most who chose the first. Not because I'd be unearthly beautiful (okay, well ... partially), but mostly because being trans is a unique experience, sometimes good and sometimes bad, but it's a journey not everyone undertakes and I feel like it has shaped me into a better person all around, and has given me a unique perspective over just about anything.
P.S. no cellulite rocks. ;D
I said something to my best friend yesterday: "I'd rather be born the ugliest girl on the planet than be born the most attractive guy on the planet" ... She (cis girl) said "That's just so wrong." I said "Yeah well I bet if you think about it for yourself, you'd agree" ... she said "Yeah.. you're right"
I'll take being an xx girl. Much less work, much less expensive, less health risks, and you're guaranteed to fit into the female society without "slipping up"...
i dont know the difference between the two. They are both women to me.
Quote from: Annah on March 18, 2012, 12:20:15 PM
i dont know the difference between the two. They are both women to me.
+1
Re: You'd prefer to be born a bombshell trans or an ordinary looking bio woman?
My answer: Either would suit me!
Natal woman. not even a hard choice for me.
I don't need memories like these.
Probably be born cis. A bombshell trans and a cis don't really differ much in lessons learned, so I might as well go with the one that can have children.
Quote from: x zOeY x on March 18, 2012, 09:12:26 AM
#1
Transsexuals are never beautiful. You might choose some that have had $$$$$$$'s of surgery and say they're beautiful, but they still have very obvious male features.
i disagree, i have not had any facial surgery at all and i am gorgeous. however to stay on topic, i was put through alot prior to transition. i think i would choose to just be a bio female, my life has been tough and i would not go through it again, no matter how great i looked. I have friends that will never pass, but they still have all of thier family. I envy them sometimes.
Bio woman. I would happily give up my life as a transwoman, even with all of it's perks (and yes there are a few), just to be able to bear children. I'm frankly desperate to have children.
I suppose I'd rather be a very good looking trans girl.
It's character.
I don't care for giving birth lol, stretch marks, and then I'd need a tummy tuck to fix the mess bearing just one child made.
I'd most likely hate my kid.
I don't have that motherly love or whatever.
oh, and if I wasn't trans, I would have never met Jay. :3
We have transceded gender to the spirit below. we are beautiful inside and thats what counts.
1.
No question.
Meh.
I really don't see this as an either/or thing. Medicine is doing some amazing things with stem cells and gene therapy. I'll go so far as to say that I'm confident a lot of us here will live to see the first transsexual woman give birth. For my own case, everything I know about bearing children and menstruation puts it squarely in the "be careful what you wish for" category.
As for beauty, beautiful? Beautiful to whom? Depending on who you're talking to, "beautiful" can be quite creepy. Having my worth being determined by how attractive porn-fueled straight white cis men find me is one of the things I'm looking forward to least.
I have no doubt at all.
#1 is the only choice for me.
To be an ordinary bio women and not trans would be a dream come true.
I dunno. Part of me says that obviously I'd have a better time as a natal girl.
But my experiences made me who I am. I'm terrified that if I was born a girl I wouldn't be me anymore, or I'd just find something else terrible about my life that isn't as easily fixable. Or maybe there were parts about being a guy I liked.
Better the Devil you know then the Devil you don't. :s It's a tough decision for me.
I'm terrified of being simply "ordinary".
Option 1.....I don't think anybody actually wants to be trans bombshell or not. :laugh:
On the flip side I'd rather be an average looking bio male.
Looks usually fade away with time.
Having the ability to give a woman a child would be awesome.
For me it's not worth all the pain just to be a gorgeous trans male if I could be a bio male.
Definitely choose ME, just as life had given me an opportunity to feel pain and anguish it gave me ability to brake the bonds of bondage I was sentenced so early on to bare. Truth gave me life, life gave me love and love gave me beauty, I would never ever want to walk in anyone else shoes.........unless of course those would be some fab heels then maybe :p
I have zero interest in being "A bomb shell". IMHO other women will hate you, men will objectfy you and you have very little chance of anyone actually getting to know who you are as a person. I've known a few, most learn to abuse their good looks to get what they want and are shallow people as a result. Of course not all are, but many fall into this stereotype. All I ever wanted was to be a normal everyday woman who is semi attractive, I feel that's exactly what I am now and that's just fine. On the being trans or not, I'm happy with my life and don't think it would have been that much better if I had been born female, just been easier but less exciting :P
Plain old average generic genetic woman any day of the week would suit me just fine, as a fantasy or a dream. It's been a really hard row to plow, but even though there were many rocks that had to be picked out to get to the other end of the field I probably would change very little of my life up to this point. I am an obvious trans woman and would love to be able to dump a ton more cash into my transition to make myself more of a generic looking genetic woman, but it's just not going to happen. So I'll make the best out of what I have and not torture myself with, what if's? This life the way it is is just so unique and mind expanding that the only way I would change it would be through reincarnation, but I don't necessarily believe in reincarnation so I'll just stick with the way I was born in the first place. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?
2 . periods and risk of getting pregnant, no thanks! ( i never want children ever and thats something im certain of so genitals are only for sexual pleasue for me , reproduction is useeless to me ) ,, and id hate to look ordinary i want to be different/ unique / beautifal
Well, I regard both ciswomen and transwomen as women, but I'd choose being cis if the choice were mine to make simply as a matter of self-identity. As for beauty, I think I'd rather be "average" than a bombshell no matter what kind of body I'm in. But then, the gals and guys I am attracted to generally fall in the "average" category anyway. The bombshell look just feels like gilding the lily to me. (Plus, I'm a sucker for freckles and dimples.) I really do see beauty as a very subjective characteristic.
Heck, I'd even accept being in an "ugly" body if it meant I could be cis. (I don't believe anyone is truly ugly if the soul is good. Hate is the source of true ugliness in my view.)
Since the choice is not mine to make, I'll just do the best I can with what I've been given and be thankful that I have my health.
Quote from: Stephe on March 18, 2012, 10:22:01 PM
I have zero interest in being "A bomb shell". IMHO other women will hate you, men will objectfy you and you have very little chance of anyone actually getting to know who you are as a person. I've known a few, most learn to abuse their good looks to get what they want and are shallow people as a result.
I used to work with a drop-dead-gorgeous cis young blonde woman with all of the absolutely greatest attributes any visual male would break out in a sweat over. We'd meet for lunch occasionally and it just amazed me at how when we walked into a place all heads would turn, it almost felt as if the music stopped on occasions it was so dramatic. I recall telling one young fellow to reel his tongue back in before he stepped on it. I asked her how she felt having men falling all over themselves and acting like morons over her. She said that it had become almost a curse because she felt like a bug under a microscope and it made her extremely uncomfortable until she learned to ignore it. She lamented the fact that the only guys that had the nerve to approach her were the smooth operators who wanted only one thing and invariably had a lot of personal baggage. (Drug and alcohol abusers, minimally employed or no job at all, domestic violence or criminal record, child support payments, an Ex wife) I felt sorry for her because she only wanted what any other woman would have for a life. She finally met and married a rather plain brown wrapper guy at 38 and started a family.
Option #1 for me please! but I think I'd suffer just the same,life is full of pain.
I'd like to be a bomb-shell... I'm shallow and I want to be able to abuse my good looks.
#2 for me.
#1
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. There are plenty men and women who find what may be considered "ordinary" looking to be far more attractive than what society deems a "bombshell". I know I personally find "ordinary" people to be better looking than supermodels.
So then with the bonus of never having to go through all my terrible experiences with trans things, and being able to give birth it's pretty much a no brainer for me.
Quote from: Tazia of the Omineca on March 19, 2012, 05:03:15 PM
I'd like to be a bomb-shell... I'm shallow and I want to be able to abuse my good looks.
Lol me too! :D
Quote from: Tazia of the Omineca on March 19, 2012, 05:03:15 PM
I'd like to be a bomb-shell... I'm shallow and I want to be able to abuse my good looks.
Gotta love the honesty in that. :D
I am a regular MTF Pinnochio. I wanna' be a real girl.
But if I lied, it would be fun to see my curves getting curvier.
Quote from: peky on March 18, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
...and how many lesbians are prepeared to have relatioships with a transwoman ?
I can't complain about that issue.
Never had a lezzie who rejected me because of my past.
Quote from: Tori on March 20, 2012, 02:15:17 AM
I am a regular MTF Pinnochio. I wanna' be a real girl.
But if I lied, it would be fun to see my curves getting curvier.
^
This *lol*
i guess #2 since i wanna look like carmen carrera @_@
Personally, I take plain average bio woman, any day over being Trans. I would of loved to have been a mother too to some kids who would never have to get confused at why their 'dad' is now their 'mum' type scenario. Not that I have kids anyway. Anyway, yes, Bio woman please. Its obviously just as much a fantasy as me ever being a bomb shell trans girl though ! :D
Quote from: peky on March 18, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
...and how many lesbians are prepeared to have relatioships with a transwoman ?
Proportional to the men ,if they're feminists it goes down to -(minus)10