I've been on the HRT for the last nealy 9 months. Really happy with the consistent changes, hair growth (turning into a very hairy man thanks to the genes on my mother's side, very peculiar for North-East Asians they all have 3pm shadows), vocal changes (noone recognises me on the phone anymore, not even the people I talk with more or less quite often, like once in a month), and the overall changes (the bank staff consistently ask me "Where are your own documents? These are a woman's documents") and I am preparing for the next stage: the surgeries. Logically speaking, there should be a technology to make the vagina into a penis, as they do with the MTF people. Does anyone know if this has been tried before, or if any GRS surgeon willing to perform such a surgery as I would volunteer to be their guinea pig? I was reading this on BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17235058 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17235058) and it makes me hopeful...
there isn't any reverse inversion tech since the lining is mostly mucosa, and is generally a pain to remove without some degree of blood loss and damage potential to the bladder, urethra and colon.
I have ideas to make the surgery better but I'm still a ways to go from practicing medicine.
You'd think as much, since females have a good deal of erectile tissue. I've recently wondered why you can't just put in some tissue stretchers or something, to where the blood vessels and nerves would stay (mostly) in place, and then invert away... Put on a covering of skin (that can handle "growth") and you're set... At least, that's my theory... Anyway, ramble over. I have no clue why we can't figure out some kind of inversion technique, haha, but if you find a surgeon let me know :-D
I would not have my hand cut off for a bionic hand...I dont care how nice it looked...my hand is staying right were it is.
I know they can grow body parts using stem cells...I don't know if anyone has ever tried to grow a fully functional male reproductive system. I'd be a guinea pig for that.
You know people have there hands cut off and re-attached and that one guy had his penis cut off by his wife and the docs re-attached it so then why couldn't they sew someone else's junk on down there. I mean if we had the same blood type and everything...like if they were involved in an accident and were an organ donor.
Quotewhy couldn't they sew someone else's junk on down there. I mean if we had the same blood type and everything...like if they were involved in an accident and were an organ donor.
This!
It won't happen for such a long time though, "religious based morals" and all the usual ->-bleeped-<- that stops awesome stuff happening.
Failing that, we could have a swap meet of sorts, I'll trade you two DD breasts and my ovaries and outside junk for your penis, and baby batter factory. Yes please.
Random thought for the night: not being able to have my GF and I get pregnancy scares makes me the most miserable about being trans.
It would be so awesome if we literally could take a working set and trade it in for the correct model
If they could just recreate the sponge tissue and incorporated into the phalloplasty then that would just be awesome. Or better yet to add girth, why not just take a tiny amount of arm skin just to wrap around a metoidioplasty instead of building an entire phalloplasty itself?? That way you would still be able to get erect.
We are all looking for the ideal procedure to give us a nice functional penis, to pee through, to get erect when we wanted, correct size and feel. We are still a long ways away from such a surgery. We can hope that it will develop in the future. We all wish we could simply trade parts with a mtf.
Quote from: Flan on March 21, 2012, 04:43:20 PM
there isn't any reverse inversion tech since the lining is mostly mucosa, and is generally a pain to remove without some degree of blood loss and damage potential to the bladder, urethra and colon.
I have ideas to make the surgery better but I'm still a ways to go from practicing medicine.
What are your ideas?
Quote from: Inkwe Mupkins on March 21, 2012, 09:11:47 PM
I would not have my hand cut off for a bionic hand...I dont care how nice it looked...my hand is staying right were it is.
I know they can grow body parts using stem cells...I don't know if anyone has ever tried to grow a fully functional male reproductive system. I'd be a guinea pig for that.
You know people have there hands cut off and re-attached and that one guy had his penis cut off by his wife and the docs re-attached it so then why couldn't they sew someone else's junk on down there. I mean if we had the same blood type and everything...like if they were involved in an accident and were an organ donor.
They have for rabbits. They are working on it for humans.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/tag/regeneration/ (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/tag/regeneration/)
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/07/penis-of-tomorrow-will-we-grow-artificial-penises (http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/07/penis-of-tomorrow-will-we-grow-artificial-penises)
They can transplant penises. But, it's not that much better than getting a phallo. Regardless of blood type you would have to be on immunosuppressant drugs for the rest of your life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_transplantation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_transplantation)
"Ten days after the operation, which had been approved by the hospital's medical ethical committee, the recipient had been able to urinate. There had been no signs of the 10-centimeter (4-inch) organ being rejected by the recipient's body. But Hu said more cases and longer observation are needed to determine whether sexual sensation and function can be restored. "The patient finally decided to give up the treatment because of the wife's psychological rejection, as well as the swollen shape of the transplanted penis" Hu added."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14905485/ns/health-mens_health/t/first-penis-transplant-reversed-after-two-weeks/#.T2uhMBGueiY (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14905485/ns/health-mens_health/t/first-penis-transplant-reversed-after-two-weeks/#.T2uhMBGueiY)
Quote from: Malachite on March 22, 2012, 12:05:41 PM
If they could just recreate the sponge tissue and incorporated into the phalloplasty then that would just be awesome. Or better yet to add girth, why not just take a tiny amount of arm skin just to wrap around a metoidioplasty instead of building an entire phalloplasty itself?? That way you would still be able to get erect.
Your natural erection couldn't support the weight of a penis that was big enough for sex.
Quote from: Sharky on March 22, 2012, 05:09:54 PM
What are your ideas?
Current way of thinking it is in form of prefab grafts in where the skin and underlying tissue are all one piece. my idea is to reconstruct layer by layer similar to male genital anatomy starting from paired cavernosum and spongiosum, buck fascia, and skin grafts ala full thickness burn treatment. the obvious issue is glansplasty, which I'm thinking on ways of fixing.
I think organ synthesis is going to be the way forward. They can make it from your body's cells so your body won't reject it. And they've already done it with a bladder.
And the kind of nice thing is that as technology in general gets better, it gets easier to make it better faster.
I'm willing to bet that they will have really impressive choices in another decade or two, if not by the end of this one :).
Quote from: pretty on March 22, 2012, 05:38:19 PM
I'm willing to bet that they will have really impressive choices in another decade or two, if not by the end of this one :).
I love your sense of being positive. I'm hopeful too :)
i think metodioplasty would be great if somehow we could get the little guy down there to grow.
Sorry for being a downer, but these technologies go where the money is. There is a very small market for TG people of any gender so the big Pharmas will not invest. There is money in diabetes, cardiology, spinal injuries etc, so that is where the companies will put their efforts.
But thinking outside the square and meaning this as a joke for TG people. If MtF have to dilate every few hours post surgery, you guys would have to have time off for a w**k every few hours. Try explaining that to the employer ::), sorry I'm not meaning to be insensitive :laugh:
Cindy
Quote from: Cindy James on March 23, 2012, 03:35:06 AM
Sorry for being a downer, but these technologies go where the money is. There is a very small market for TG people of any gender so the big Pharmas will not invest. There is money in diabetes, cardiology, spinal injuries etc, so that is where the companies will put their efforts.
But thinking outside the square and meaning this as a joke for TG people. If MtF have to dilate every few hours post surgery, you guys would have to have time off for a w**k every few hours. Try explaining that to the employer ::), sorry I'm not meaning to be insensitive :laugh:
Cindy
Well of course this is exactly where all the money
should go. Otherwise you get this:
Doc: "Here chap, have this lovely penis! But you only have a week or so to use it because of this horrible cancerous growth on your nose. What a shame, we just can't seem to work that silly "cancer" thing out. Enjoy your new appendage, use it wisely!!" as he cheerily waves g'bye.
Of course new 'equipment' is going to go on the back burner until there's more demand, but *cue overly dramatic music* we have our dreams! :)
And personally, I wouldn't mind a good w*nk every few hours :p "It's a medical condition, sir, think of it as my 'smoke break'."