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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: ByeBye on April 04, 2012, 02:02:19 PM

Title: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: ByeBye on April 04, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
I was relieved to find this bathroom sign @ the Student Life Center of my college. These should be everywhere and denying a trans woman right to use the bathroom is wrong.

Matter of fact if I looked like most women now, I would go to the women's bathroom, but I like this sign I found.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1058.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft411%2FAsTimeMovesOn2Be%2Fother%2520pictures%2Fpicture755.jpg&hash=dcaba4fa8bf1eda767ec9a18756ba0f405ec7e0b)
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: Alainaluvsu on April 04, 2012, 02:19:42 PM
My school director allows me to use a non gender specific bathroom that is usually off limits to most  people at school. Thank god too... when i go in the mens room i feel extremely awkward when someone watches me go in, or worse when a guy is in there.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: Misato on April 04, 2012, 03:06:56 PM
My U has a number of these bathrooms too.  I'm very thankful for them.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: Renee D on April 04, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
The only public bathroom where I work is unisex. I never use it though, I use the one reserved for just the women that work there.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: Diane Elizabeth on April 04, 2012, 09:53:59 PM
Where I work there are only the two standard choices for me.  His and Hers.  I was told when I come out that I still have to use the mens.  But I have hope that I can get around this somehow.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: A on April 04, 2012, 10:00:29 PM
I have this too; minus the handicapped symbol, 'cause no wheelchair fits in that small place.

Also, I'm still wondering about the very reason for gender differentiated bathrooms and changing rooms, all trans concerns aside. I mean, stalls are private, so why separate the rest? It's not like we're gonna be shy of washing our hands in front of guys.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: Stephe on April 04, 2012, 10:22:54 PM
Quote from: A on April 04, 2012, 10:00:29 PM
I have this too; minus the handicapped symbol, 'cause no wheelchair fits in that small place.

Also, I'm still wondering about the very reason for gender differentiated bathrooms and changing rooms, all trans concerns aside. I mean, stalls are private, so why separate the rest? It's not like we're gonna be shy of washing our hands in front of guys.

Cause lots of guys stand to pee. Women really don't wanna walk by a row of guys facing the wall lol Plus guys bathrooms smell nasty with the urnal pucks..
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: rachl on April 04, 2012, 10:44:54 PM
The unofficial official policy at my university is to use the bathroom appropriate to one's gender presentation. We're working on making it more official.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: A on April 04, 2012, 11:06:05 PM
Urinals can be put in locked stalls too.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: 8888 on April 05, 2012, 05:08:43 AM
Disabled bathrooms are required by law in most places... I always use them. It's good to have a choice; mens, womens or unisex/disabled, everyone's happy.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: Stephe on April 05, 2012, 08:42:46 AM
Quote from: A on April 04, 2012, 11:06:05 PM
Urinals can be put in locked stalls too.

Yet then you have made them gender specific again...  The other problem, creepy guys hanging out in the bathroom to hit on women. I know from our standpoint non gender specific bathrooms sound like a good idea, they really just aren't.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: rachl on April 05, 2012, 09:58:10 AM
Quote from: Stephe on April 05, 2012, 08:42:46 AM
The other problem, creepy guys hanging out in the bathroom to hit on women. I know from our standpoint non gender specific bathrooms sound like a good idea, they really just aren't.

That happens? I hadn't thought of that. I'll use that as a counter-argument, then.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: Beverley on April 05, 2012, 10:19:48 AM
Quote from: Stephe on April 05, 2012, 08:42:46 AM
Yet then you have made them gender specific again...  The other problem, creepy guys hanging out in the bathroom to hit on women. I know from our standpoint non gender specific bathrooms sound like a good idea, they really just aren't.

It is the stench of male facilities. Many men seem useless at hitting the toilet rather than the floor.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: Misato on April 05, 2012, 01:12:29 PM
The floor and splash guards around urinals.  Disgusting!
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: Alainaluvsu on April 05, 2012, 01:28:29 PM
And god forbid you find a puddle and find yourself slipping...  in heels omg
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: mm on April 05, 2012, 01:49:49 PM
My school has the new unisex handicapped restrooms in the newer buildings.  I main building where I have most of my classes and the near by building don't have any of them.  I use the men's and use a stall with no problems.  I find the men's is much clean, never have I seen any blood on anything which I did fairly often in the women's and no strong urine smell either.
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: A on April 05, 2012, 04:18:22 PM
Uhm, urinals in locked stalls requiring gender-specific stalls? Why? Once one is inside, no one can get in.

Also, I've ever been in a place where there weren't gender-specific bathrooms. No memory of where. Instead of the limited privacy stalls with large gaps in the bottom and top and a gap when the door is closed, stall walls spread from the floor to the ceiling; the doors too, and there was no gap. Urinals were in the same kind of stalls. It wasn't especially dirty; men and women shared the place without the slightest hint of awkwardness or bad comportments.

If stalls are properly made, there is actually no difference between a shared genders' bathroom and a kitchen with a sink in which a few doors lead to individual washrooms... People walk into the stall dressed; do their thing 100% privately; walk out dressed; wash their hands; leave.

The only problems there might ever be would be mis-aiming men... But I think a mere "If you're not able to pee standing without splashing anywhere, SIT" sign would do the job. Men have pride. Plus, I think the reason a lot of men don't really care about the mess is "we're all men who stand and do a mess, not caring since we seldom sit". Interaction with women changes that.

In the small two-toilet mixed gender bathroom of my school, which is the only one available in a set building BTW, any mess is RARE and even when it happens, it's minor (clearly one person), whilst in the other building's mixed bathrooms, all toilets are usually super disgusting. I think that's some kind of proof.

And if you think about it, it's not any more expensive than two bathrooms. The money you lose in better stalls is probably saved from the lack of a necessity to prepare two distinct rooms with two sets of sinks and all.

The same would go for a locker room. People usually change in public, or partly do, leaving the private spots (if they exist; not often in mens' rooms) to the most timid and/or just for putting on underwear. But if you split it all up in separate stalls which you enter dressed normally and leave with your sports clothes, or enter dirty and leave clean and dressed, there is no need for the primary separation in the first place: the only ways men and women meet is exactly as they would in the gymnasium or hallway. And it's not all that much more expensive: I'm pretty sure 90%+ of the cost of adding a shower resides in the plumbing stuff; yet there is already a whole lot of those in mens' "showers" which consist of a large room with 10-30 water outputs.

Actually, this formula is just a lot more privacy for everyone, if you ask me.

(I really feel like I'm hijacking this thread. o.o)
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: Rabbit on April 05, 2012, 04:26:26 PM
I just use the mens restroom...

If there are a lot of guys at the urinals, I use the stall.

I guess I don't really care much where I pee... and if a guy gives me a confused look as I'm walking out, I get a kick out of it and laugh.

I have male anatomy... a urinal is functional for me.. soo... might as well make use of my advantage :P

I'm kind of inbetween genders though. People assume I'm female generally (i dress female)... but I don't hide that I'm trans and still use a guy voice or don't try to cover the little bits of beard shadow left ~shrug~
Title: Re: The Bathroom Thread.
Post by: The Passage on April 05, 2012, 04:37:53 PM
I try to avoid public bathrooms altogether... >.>