Gender therapists are good. Recomending that someone see a gender therapist is good. Thinking that YOU are a gender therapist because you have BEEN to a gender therapist is bad. That is all. Hugs, Devlyn
Haha! Awesome.
That's a good one! We're the worst when it come past the simple suggestions of where to find help with our condition. Each of us are going through our own paths and minefields.
Joelene
So, what if I or others are doctors? No difference, still cannot provide medical advice as Susan's forum s not a medical forum; in addition, I thought it was self evident that we come here to give our opinions, share our experiences, and provided nonprofessional advice.
PS I am NOT a doctor, I just stayed at The Holiday Inn Express ! :laugh:
Quote from: peky on April 25, 2012, 08:33:21 PM
PS I am NOT a doctor, I just stayed at The Holiday Inn Express ! :laugh:
The older version is "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on on TV" This was in the old cartoons and in sitcom sketches of actors who played doctors advertising over-the-counter meds through the TV prop in the studio.
Joelene
What brought this on? Should we not give our opinions or offer suggestions? Are we just here to go "Yay! go you!" or something similar?
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on April 25, 2012, 06:50:10 PM
Gender therapists are good. Recomending that someone see a gender therapist is good. Thinking that YOU are a gender therapist because you have BEEN to a gender therapist is bad. That is all. Hugs, Devlyn
You need therapy. [ cue Lawrence Welk music]And a bottle of "gender-all".[ /music]
;)
And I can say this, because I've been to a gender therapist.
= non sequitur
Well... I am going to give medical and therapeutic advice because I watch House and Glee regularly. ;)
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on April 25, 2012, 06:50:10 PM
Gender therapists are good. Recomending that someone see a gender therapist is good. Thinking that YOU are a gender therapist because you have BEEN to a gender therapist is bad. That is all. Hugs, Devlyn
Not sure about that assessment. Gender therapists can be good, recommending that someone see a gender therapist can be good. There are a lot of therapists out there who are clueless, and bad eggs like any other group.
Quote from: Nygeel on April 25, 2012, 10:15:16 PM
Not sure about that assessment. Gender therapists can be good, recommending that someone see a gender therapist can be good. There are a lot of therapists out there who are clueless, and bad eggs like any other group.
I recommend going out for dinner once in a while...but some restaurants can give you salmonella, so maybe I shouldn't recommend going out to dinner?
Of course not...but it goes without saying, that if one does go out to eat, and finds rats going in and out of the kitchen, used kleenixs at the table, and/or waitstaff who haven't bathed in days...one should leave that establishment.
I would hope people aren't that stupid to go to an (obviously bad) therapist, and continue the (obviously bad) therapy, just because someone online said it's a good thing to go to therapy.
It goes without saying. 8)
Quote from: Beth Andrea on April 25, 2012, 10:48:03 PM
I recommend going out for dinner once in a while...but some restaurants can give you salmonella, so maybe I shouldn't recommend going out to dinner?
Of course not...but it goes without saying, that if one does go out to eat, and finds rats going in and out of the kitchen, used kleenixs at the table, and/or waitstaff who haven't bathed in days...one should leave that establishment.
I would hope people aren't that stupid to go to an (obviously bad) therapist, and continue the (obviously bad) therapy, just because someone online said it's a good thing to go to therapy.
It goes without saying. 8)
I think more so that it depends on the person. Some people benefit from therapy while others don't. I went to a gender therapist for 3 months and didn't really feel like it was helpful. Take it as one of those really fancy restaurants where food costs a lot and they give you like....a leaf.
Did they drizzle the leaf with some kind of sauce?
OMG, why does that sound sexual?
n/m, back to topic....
All this and no-one has brought up Dr. Phil? ::)
Quote from: V M on April 25, 2012, 11:38:06 PM
All this and no-one has brought up Dr. Phil? ::)
But he's not a doctor.
Oooohhh, you got the joke :laugh: Good job
Quote from: Nygeel on April 25, 2012, 11:50:45 PM
But he's not a doctor.
Um, I see this misconception a lot on the Web and actually he is a doctor, technically. He earned a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from University of North Texas in 1979, which is sufficient for him to use the title "Doctor".
Now, he does not currently hold a license to practice psychology, having officially "retired" in 2006, but he is still considered to be a Doctor. The California Board of Psychology accepts that he does not require a license to practice for his TV show as he maintains the purpose is entertainment, not psychology. However, there are concerns that he may still be risking charges of practicing without a license in Texas as a result of his show.
That said, it is worth repeating that Dr. Phil is entertainment, not psychology.
I'm not a doctor but I play a strong handsome man who cares about you on TV. Well, minus the TV. Maybe minus the other stuff.
I've sutured some formaldehyde-soaked pig legs, does that count?
I was in a taxi today going between hospitals. The driver says, 'Are you a Doctor?' I say yes dreading the next question. 'How do I get my teeth white?' was his next question. 'Try toothpaste and a toothbrush" was my reply.
Who says I can't give useful medical advice? Had a nice quiet trip after that.
Cindy
Quote from: Dana_H on April 26, 2012, 12:45:05 AM
That said, it is worth repeating that Dr. Phil is entertainment, not psychology.
Psychotainment.
Although that sounds like TV programming for serial killers.
Today on KillerTV we discuss the latest fashions that go with chainsaws in 'Splatterproof Style'... and stay tuned later as everyone's favourite chef discusses the best ways to scout out those human heads which haven't been using mind altering substances in 'Deranged Delights: Putting the Organ in Organics'. All this and more, today on KillerTV!Anywhoo, I can kinda see the point in the thread, but I was under the impression that most folks here give advice and suggestions because they're relating someone's feelings and experiences to their own, and drawing comparisons, rather than trying to give any sort of medical diagnosis.
"Oh, they feel like I do. Well when I felt like that, I discovered it was because of <this>, maybe the same applies to them too. It's worth mentioning."
Well, some of us could be doctors here, but I guess you're referring to M.D or M.D.D.S etc
I would agree it's dangerous and stupid to attempt to give someone therapy over a public forum though.
Dr. Phil is definitely physchocouchatainment in my opinion. He's the classic do as I say not as I see guy as well - so I guess that makes him well qualified as far as being a medical practitioner is concerned. ^.^
I'm not "a doctor" but I am THE DOCTOR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CYDgezeQas
I'm not a doctor, but I play one on myself.
Having my primary care admit to me that she had never worked with transgender individuals before set the tone for my transition. Of the 6 people I've worked with only one has experience with these issues. Thus I often feel as though I am my own care manager. The advantage to this system is I usually get what I want by bringing in the documentation that supports my view since they don't have competing research handy. The disadvantage is that I have nowhere to go besides forums & journals when things go wrong.
Alas, to be be trans where I am pretty much means you are your own doctor, at least for transition related stuff and challenges. I miss the days when I felt sick/pain/etc and could just schedule an appointment and expect an answer.
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on April 25, 2012, 06:50:10 PM
Gender therapists are good. Recomending that someone see a gender therapist is good. Thinking that YOU are a gender therapist because you have BEEN to a gender therapist is bad. That is all. Hugs, Devlyn
Well that's a nice black and white outlook now isn't it.
However, as these things usually are, it's not black and white.
Not all doctors are good, not all doctors are competent.
Nativity and ignorance lead many to believe that because society says a particular group are more qualified than another group, that it must be true, and elevate them to almost deity status.
I rang the ambulance the other day. The very rude paramedic (understandable, they hate drug users calling for an ambulance cause their dumbass took something and had a bad reaction) asked me if I had any other drugs in my system, to which I replied yes, diazapam. He replied "diazapam or valium". At which point I said "it's the same thing..." with a bewildered look. He replied "well no, the dosage differs from brand to brand". To which I replied "I'm on such and such mg of valium".
It's a stupid story caused by stupid behaviour, but the point remains. Despite being completely stoned and having a panic attack, I was STILL more knowledgeable about a very very basic issue than this paramedic. Even though I'm technically completely unqualified.
I'm technically unqualified in a lot of subjects of which I know fully well I am more competent in than many with supposed qualifications.
Let people give their advise and opinions, provided they state their knowledge base, reasons for opinion, and advise that theirs is not the only viewpoint.
Quote from: Sephirah on April 26, 2012, 03:50:42 AM
Psychotainment....
It's only called that cuz "enterologist" was already taken.... >:-)
Quote from: ameline on April 26, 2012, 04:29:12 PM
I'm not a doctor, but I play one on myself.
Having my primary care admit to me that she had never worked with transgender individuals before set the tone for my transition. Of the 6 people I've worked with only one has experience with these issues. Thus I often feel as though I am my own care manager. The advantage to this system is I usually get what I want by bringing in the documentation that supports my view since they don't have competing research handy. The disadvantage is that I have nowhere to go besides forums & journals when things go wrong.
I'm kinda in the same boat now. I had a really good TG doctor with experience but out of the blue this Jan he retired. I went to the doctor he referred his TG patients to. She is listed as being a "Trans doctor" on their web site and in the TG center website where I live.
I was kinda concerned though on my 3rd visit, while we are discussing changing my meds and looking at my blood work, she asks if I am post-op. That seemed kinda clueless lol. But like you, she goes along with what I want as long as I can document why and it's reasonable. I'd rather have this than a doctor who "knows everything" and applies the same treatment to everyone, limited prescriptions so you are forced into monthly visits etc. I am glad I'm this far along and had the other doctor to help me sort out a starting point for all this.
So yes, in some ways I am my own doctor too.
Yeah, the bucks end with you when it comes to your health, you ought to be your best advocate.