Hey, guys. I've been googling around and came across a pill called Gynexin, which is supposed to be a treatment for gynecomastia that takes around 3 months to reduce moob size, apparently. There are the usual people saying it doesn't work, as virtually everything has, and there are many that seem to think it does work. It apparently doesn't have any adverse side effects, so as someone with no intention of having surgery, do you think I ought to try it out? I'm transitioning as naturally as possible, using supplements for everything - I have no intention of going on T ever, either. And my body seems to react very well to supplements, so it's worth a shot, right? No huge loss if they don't work, but if they do, sweet? Opinions.
Don't waste your money (@ $70.00 per month).
It's just another herbal fat-burning scam.
You can't get rid of glandular tissue in the breast with herbs. You can lose weight and get rid of some excess fat, generally.
I don't have excess fat to lose and wasting money isn't a problem here, as it's not like I'd be spending the money on surgery, anyway. If that's the only argument, I don't see the harm in trying something, at least? Does anyone have recommendations for anything else?
Not to mention that's the exact response I see on this forum for the herbs I've been taking for other things, and I can confirm those working for me, so ?
Quote from: Charlizard on April 26, 2012, 04:12:07 PM
I don't have excess fat to lose and wasting money isn't a problem here, as it's not like I'd be spending the money on surgery, anyway. If that's the only argument, I don't see the harm in trying something, at least? Does anyone have recommendations for anything else?
Not to mention that's the exact response I see on this forum for the herbs I've been taking for other things, and I can confirm those working for me, so ?
The point is that there are two types of gynecomastia (a condition in genetic males in which they develop breasts like those of females). One type, true gynecomastia, involves the development of glandular tissue, which include lobules and milk ducts. The second type, pseudo-gynecomastia, involves excess adipose (fatty) tissue.
The herbal remedies "work" by lessening the adipose tissue. They have little to no effect on the glandular tissues.
I am sure the manufacturers and distributors will appreciate your money.
If you've got the money and don't care about burning it then go ahead. Only recommendation as with all supplements is to do so with doctor's supervision. Keep track of your liver function.
IMO taking supplements isn't more natural than taking T, but if it floats your boat then by all means.
Quote from: Nygeel on April 27, 2012, 01:37:58 AM
IMO taking supplements isn't more natural than taking T, but if it floats your boat then by all means.
I agree and I think they are mostly have a placebo effect, you want them to do something, so you see it, even if it's not there.
just that taking t is not exactly advertised to reduce moobs in guys- it's probably where some of them got them from ;)
Well, it's certainly my preference - I've been keeping track of my liver function and T levels, and there was a massive increase over about three months, so I at least know it's working. And since it does at least work for me, I see no reason to write off anything else "natural"(ish) that most people say doesn't work or isn't worth it.
Besides, is whether or not it's natural/effective really part of the topic here?
transitioning naturally would be taking T and having top surgery. making your body produce more testosterone by adding chemicals or "supplements" is very unnatural. and adding more chemicals to try to reduce moob size is even worse the only thing that might reduce it is testosterone.
I don't see how a pill can reduce gladular tissue either. It's like the pills that claim to make your dick bigger.
As far as natural vs. unnatural goes, in my humble opinion adding ANYTHING that your body wouldn't NATURALLY come in contact with or produce is unnatural. Natural is just eating good food and exercising. So taking any supplement or synthetic (or even bio-identical) hormones is technically unnatural. I really don't think most guys care about that though. Even guys who say they want to be all natural end up on T because they want the effects so the whole debate really doesn't matter since there's so few people out there that are 100% natural.
Quote from: Steve4543 on May 06, 2012, 12:04:17 PM
Gynexin Official Site - http://gynexin.com (http://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=168081&s=183) I received the order and it was on time and the pills work great.
Can you give some more information on your experience?
Quote from: Andy8715 on May 06, 2012, 05:25:20 PM
Can you give some more information on your experience?
+1
Because cutting your tits off and injecting testosterone in your body is completely natural.
Leave the dude alone, ->-bleeped-<-.
Quote from: JoeyD on May 07, 2012, 01:52:11 AM
Because cutting your tits off and injecting testosterone when you produce estrogen in your body is completely natural.
Leave the dude alone, ->-bleeped-<-.
I love you.
Quote from: emil on April 27, 2012, 05:54:20 AM
just that taking t is not exactly advertised to reduce moobs in guys- it's probably where some of them got them from ;)
No - that form of breast growth in non trans men is from the body's reaction to
too much testosterone, aromatizing into estrogen.
Quote from: MrTesto on May 07, 2012, 02:08:42 AM
No - that form of breast growth in non trans men is from the body's reaction to too much testosterone, aromatizing into estrogen.
That's one way they form. Weight lifters who abuse steroids develop what is called, in their circles, "bitch tits."
Anything that upsets the testosterone/estrogen ratio can cause gynecomastia. Increase in the estrogens, or a decrease in the androgens, or both.
There is no way to have targeted fat loss by pill. To say, "take out such and such fat, and leave the rest alone", well I assure you the drug that can do that wont' be called "Moobs".
Quote from: JoeyD on May 07, 2012, 01:52:11 AM
Because cutting your tits off and injecting testosterone in your body is completely natural.
Leave the dude alone, <not allowed>.
For god's sake, thank you. Honestly, this thread is not a debate about whether or not one kind of transitioning is "more natural" or "better". My body is mine and I'm doing what makes me comfortable, so frankly, wtf, guys. I could say plenty of things about what I think is "unnatural" about more standard methods, but that is not and never was the point here.
Quote from: Charlizard on May 07, 2012, 07:51:34 PM
For god's sake, thank you. Honestly, this thread is not a debate about whether or not one kind of transitioning is "more natural" or "better". My body is mine and I'm doing what makes me comfortable, so frankly, wtf, guys. I could say plenty of things about what I think is "unnatural" about more standard methods, but that is not and never was the point here.
It seems like your mind was pretty much made up when you made the thread. I'm not sure what else you're looking for with this topic. Perhaps it would be best just to let it go now.
Quote from: Adio on May 07, 2012, 08:54:03 PM
It seems like your mind was pretty much made up when you made the thread. I'm not sure what else you're looking for with this topic. Perhaps it would be best just to let it go now.
The only thing my mind is made up about is not having surgery or taking hormones, which is not the topic of this thread. I was looking for information on alternative means of accomplishing the same goal, not a debate.
Quote from: Charlizard on May 07, 2012, 09:52:54 PM
The only thing my mind is made up about is not having surgery or taking hormones, which is not the topic of this thread. I was looking for information on alternative means of accomplishing the same goal, not a debate.
This.
And Charlizard, don't worry about the whole ''natural vs unnatural'' debate.
I think it's bull crap. (''crap'' is allowed right?) A never ending useless argument since most of it is based on opinions.
Anyways do you; lol do what makes you happy and comfortable. (:
As for the product; I have no idea dude! o:
But if you do end up trying it, let me know how it goes!
Quote from: Charlizard on May 07, 2012, 09:52:54 PM
The only thing my mind is made up about is not having surgery or taking hormones, which is not the topic of this thread. I was looking for information on alternative means of accomplishing the same goal, not a debate.
When you post on a public forum, 99% of the time that will lead to one or more of the following: people who don't agree with you, people who agree with you, a debate (even when you don't want one), varying opinions. It's a mixed bag, and you have to take the good with the bad. That's just how it is.
My best advice: do what you see best with regards to your transition process, whether or not people agree with you.