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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: mementomori on May 24, 2012, 06:33:52 PM

Title: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: mementomori on May 24, 2012, 06:33:52 PM
"How about women who become men then date men (curious), or men who become priests then frequent call girls? Saying that you are vegetarian that eats meat is like saying that you're a "little bit pregnant" or "kind of married". "

http://lifestyle.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=1010565&showcomments=true (http://lifestyle.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=1010565&showcomments=true)

Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: conformer on May 24, 2012, 06:55:04 PM
Quote from: mementomori on May 24, 2012, 06:33:52 PM
"How about women who become men then date men (curious), or men who become priests then frequent call girls? Saying that you are vegetarian that eats meat is like saying that you're a "little bit pregnant" or "kind of married". "

http://lifestyle.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=1010565&showcomments=true (http://lifestyle.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=1010565&showcomments=true)

Ignorance is inevitable, unfortunately.

I love you username btw.
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: wheat thins are delicious on May 24, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
Quote from: conformer on May 24, 2012, 06:55:04 PM
Ignorance is inevitable, unfortunately.


This pretty much sums up my thoughts as well.
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: wheat thins are delicious on May 24, 2012, 10:48:30 PM
Quote from: blueocean on May 24, 2012, 08:47:29 PM
That article isn't there any more. I read the article and didn't see the line in question.  ???

It's definitely still there.  CTRL + F the phrase of the line and you will see it.
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: Shang on May 24, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
I saw the line.  That is...wow.  That's about all I have.

That and some vegetarians say that they only won't eat animals that have a face so animals like chicken and fish don't count to them. -shrug-  I don't get it, but it's what I've heard.
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: wheat thins are delicious on May 24, 2012, 11:19:36 PM
Quote from: Arawn Gabriel on May 24, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
I saw the line.  That is...wow.  That's about all I have.

That and some vegetarians say that they only won't eat animals that have a face so animals like chicken and fish don't count to them. -shrug-  I don't get it, but it's what I've heard.

They aren't vegetarians then.
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: Lee on May 24, 2012, 11:58:59 PM
:/ So many people would respond to me being vegan with "Do you eat fish?"  I guess it's not all that important to what I wanted to say, but yeah, people can be odd.

It seems like most of the time ignorance is just that.  It's a lack of understanding that we all too often interpret as malice.  This person obviously doesn't get the difference between gender and sexuality, but I guess it can be a teaching opportunity.
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: Julian on May 25, 2012, 12:46:51 AM
Quote from: Arawn Gabriel on May 24, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
I saw the line.  That is...wow.  That's about all I have.

That and some vegetarians say that they only won't eat animals that have a face so animals like chicken and fish don't count to them. -shrug-  I don't get it, but it's what I've heard.

Do chickens not have faces, or...?
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: mementomori on May 25, 2012, 12:52:16 AM
Quote from: Julian on May 25, 2012, 12:46:51 AM
Do chickens not have faces, or...?

they just have bums , i had a friend who was a avid animal rights activists always lecturing everyone to stop eating meat or wearing leather etc, but then shed occasionally be like " i just ate a little bit of meat at this barbeque "

on the other hand my boyfriend is a vegan and never really talks about unless someone asks him  or lectures anyone

haha
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: supremecatoverlord on May 25, 2012, 02:56:25 AM
Quote from: Julian on May 25, 2012, 12:46:51 AM
Do chickens not have faces, or...?

Yes, but 'tis an inferior face, Julian, 'tis an inferior face.

lololololol.
I actually don't understand this either.
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: LordKAT on May 25, 2012, 04:22:32 AM
Quote from: Lee on May 24, 2012, 11:58:59 PM
:/ So many people would respond to me being vegan with "Do you eat fish?"  I guess it's not all that important to what I wanted to say, but yeah, people can be odd.

It seems like most of the time ignorance is just that.  It's a lack of understanding that we all too often interpret as malice.  This person obviously doesn't get the difference between gender and sexuality, but I guess it can be a teaching opportunity.

Only if they are willing to learn. Many people don't want to believe differently, so they don't.
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: Jamie D on May 25, 2012, 04:43:14 AM
Quote from: Julian on May 25, 2012, 12:46:51 AM
Do chickens not have faces, or...?

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chickenbreedslist.com%2Fimages%2Fchicken_face.jpg&hash=e0c856a7acccf7f7fb1d8289e4480652fc525b08)

Cluck!
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: Adio on May 25, 2012, 09:29:42 AM
Eh...it's just ignorance I think.  As a gay vegetarian, I think it's a bit ridiculous.  Personally I have no problems with "flexitarians" or "pescetarians" as long as they (and other people) understand they aren't actually vegetarian or vegan.  And I laughed at the "kind of married" because some people actually are like that.  Not trying to get political but I consider civil unions and domestic partnerships to be "kind of married" (honestly it's a second class marriage).  So...Still ridiculous and offensive, but it's the internet and people say ridiculous and offensive things.
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: Natkat on May 25, 2012, 02:31:13 PM
Well, its just being plainly ignorant, but since it seams so stupid I didnt really felt offended..
I mean, yeah it seams alittle messed, but insteed of actually helping or making an usefull answer it just to make fun of the situation.





Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: Shang on May 25, 2012, 03:08:29 PM
Quote from: Julian on May 25, 2012, 12:46:51 AM
Do chickens not have faces, or...?

I think they do, lol.  It was just the girl's reasoning.  I could never get behind it because meat is meat is meat.  To me eating chicken or fish means you're not a vegetarian because vegetarians don't eat meat from what I've learned.
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: Nemo on May 25, 2012, 03:24:35 PM
Then you get people like my SO who tell it how it is:

"Fish-murdering breed of heartless fake veggie" ;D

Said that to describe himself ;)

As for that line in the article.. meh, not even worth bothering with :P
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: Devlyn on May 25, 2012, 03:45:07 PM
At the bottom of the page it said "The advice given may not be useful, but it will be humorous." Always consider the source. Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: Natkat on May 26, 2012, 08:27:16 AM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on May 25, 2012, 03:45:07 PM
At the bottom of the page it said "The advice given may not be useful, but it will be humorous." Always consider the source. Hugs, Devlyn

yeah I was rigth XD
Title: Re: really stupid insult to gay transmen in this article
Post by: justmeinoz on May 26, 2012, 09:57:34 AM
I wonder if they will post my effort.