I just read an article online that talks about how some
transmen on T end up sexually assaulting women?has
any one heard any thing about that?
I heard about those studies. T doesn't make someone more prone to violence at all. I was way more prone to fits of rage and anger pre-T. If someone is prone to violence then they are prone to it, hormones or not.
That's BS. 'Nuff said.
That's BS, transphobic, and highly insulting.
I've never heard of that case, and goes against everything that I've heard from actual trans people, but even if it was true, one case does not make it the same for everybody. There were probably other factors going on at the same time, and they just either chose to report it as being due to T for transphobic reasons, or the assaulter tried to use T as a get-out clause for his actions.
[EDIT: just noticed that you said "trans men" rather than a specific trans man. I would still call it out as BS, the only time I've heard of trans people getting more violent on T is in articles reporting it's side effects, but every person on here who's experiences on T I've read about have been the opposite to that. I'm not sure if this makes any sense actually, I'm kinda all over the place at the minute. Sorry.]
I've never heard of that, either. I think they're thinking of "roid rage" or something. Either way, I've been on T for almost 4 and a half months and do not feel anymore angry then I did pre-T. If anything I'm happier now. I wouldn't worry about it.
Quote from: Darrin Scott on June 28, 2012, 07:01:45 PM
I've never heard of that, either. I think they're thinking of "roid rage" or something. Either way, I've been on T for almost 4 and a half months and do not feel anymore angry then I did pre-T. If anything I'm happier now. I wouldn't worry about it.
I love how we have the same T birthday lol. I'm much happier now too :D
This is were I got that info from
removed link. no backlinks for her. :laugh:
Quote from: Ashley on June 28, 2012, 07:17:37 PM
This is were I got that info from
I had a feeling that's where that information would come from. She is so against trans people that she would say anything to justify her hatred. The value of her information plus a quarter will get you .25 cents.
Some of the information could apply to some transmen but it shouldn't be applied to all.
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Exactly. I feel like killing people in a fit of rage because I know it will be another 10 years or more before I can get T, because I can't get it where I live (everyone refuses to prescribe it).
Well that's good to know that it was BS
Quote from: Ashley on June 28, 2012, 07:17:37 PM
This is were I got that info from
She makes it a point to say negative things about transmen. She has an unhealthy obsession with transmen. I wouldn't take anything said there seriously. In fact, don't bother reading the blog at all.
Henri-Hey! We do have the same T birthday! ;D You look good for 4 months!
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Aw buggers, I had a feeling that's where you got that info from also. As others have said, she has some serious fixation issues on trans men. All that hate is going to give her some mean ulcers someday.
Darrin, you are looking great also! That mohawk you've been rocking lately is very sweet, might I add.
A lot of stuff we read online is BS.
--Jay Jay
Quote from: Ashley on June 28, 2012, 06:34:04 PM
I just read an article online that talks about how some
transmen on T end up sexually assaulting women?has
any one heard any thing about that?
So do some cis men
so do some trans men not on T
so do some trans women
so do some cis women.
What are you asking if we have heard about that? What is the point of this post. You could fill in the blanks and it would be true.
Some _____________ on ______________ end up sexually assaulting _________.
TL;DR some people end up sexually assaulting people.
Quote from: Andy8715 on June 29, 2012, 12:37:31 AM
So do some cis men
so do some trans men not on T
so do some trans women
so do some cis women.
What are you asking if we have heard about that? What is the point of this post. You could fill in the blanks and it would be true.
Some _____________ on ______________ end up sexually assaulting _________.
TL;DR some people end up sexually assaulting people.
+1.
Well put, man.
Quote from: Ashley on June 28, 2012, 06:34:04 PM
I just read an article online that talks about how some
transmen on T end up sexually assaulting women?has
any one heard any thing about that?
what is the provement for that?
I never heard of a caise of it so I would say its BS..
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sure it can happent but I dont belive the risk for trans people are any higher than for cis-men
actually I belive that we are less likely to those,
First of all I think many transmen has great respect of women, since they had lived part of there life in there role,
and second then I think the punishment for transmen would be WAY bigger than for a cisguy, and we would be jugded way harder and more easy to reconise if we did anything..
There is no proof of it because it was disproven.
Quote from: Malachite on June 28, 2012, 07:25:00 PM
I had a feeling that's where that information would come from. She is so against trans people that she would say anything to justify her hatred. The value of her information plus a quarter will get you .25 cents.
Some of the information could apply to some transmen but it shouldn't be applied to all.
removed link.
Glad people removed link. She is really a hater. She has a bunch of lies and half truths which she uses as an arsenal to prove that ftms are just people who should be butches (I don't know she thinks she is running out somehow?). It all borders a bit on paranoia. But she believes that ftm is a state of having limited gender roles for women or something. I can tell you that is pretty much baloney and that ftms can come from the most liberal and socially progressive families imaginable.
I found her and got very confused til I was able to sort out her ramblings. She has probably caused a lot of trouble as people read these and think they are true. Put in any of her misinfo and you will likely get pretty much only her and some references to here.
--Jay Jay
There are people who sexually abuse other people. There are trans men that have sexually abused people, there are cis men that have sexually abused people, there are cis women that have sexually abused people, there are trans women that have sexually abused people.
There are some trans men that I can think of who have definitely sexually abused people after hormones but it's not as if hormones did that.
It used to be (and still is among some people) believed that testosterone contributed to aggression. Not only was that disproven, but it was discovered that the social misconception about the connection between testosterone and aggression was more likely to cause aggression than the hormone.
Her vehemence kinda makes me wonder if she has some insecurities about her own identity. Or maybe she really is that stupid.
Quote from: Edge on June 29, 2012, 01:46:20 PM
It used to be (and still is among some people) believed that testosterone contributed to aggression. Not only was that disproven, but it was discovered that the social misconception about the connection between testosterone and aggression was more likely to cause aggression than the hormone.
Her vehemence kinda makes me wonder if she has some insecurities about her own identity. Or maybe she really is that stupid.
I think it's been shown women can be just as aggressive, they merely act it out in different ways and not necessarily physically. Though women have abused men-- it may not be talked about that much but it is true.
The idea that somehow T just goes in and causes a person (perhaps somewhat mild mannered and quiet) to suddenly come out as a kind of monster, it's the Frankenstein or some other myth type story. Totally made up.
I'm pretty sure this person is not a happy person. Maybe she is having trouble finding a butch so she is blaming it on this. (Might look elsewhere.)
--Jay Jay
Quote from: Edge on June 29, 2012, 01:46:20 PM
It used to be (and still is among some people) believed that testosterone contributed to aggression. Not only was that disproven, but it was discovered that the social misconception about the connection between testosterone and aggression was more likely to cause aggression than the hormone.
Her vehemence kinda makes me wonder if she has some insecurities about her own identity. Or maybe she really is that stupid.
If she was a ftm or genderqueer in denial, it would certainly explain her obsession. The more I read through her blog, the more it seems to me that she's trying to convince herself more than everybody else. Her obsession is just so extreme. She's always lurking around in ftm forums, trying to find things to take out of context to make transguys look like sexist jerks.
Just to add a note of caution here, folks. However misinformed someone may be, the link to the source was removed for a reason and it's not really fair to discuss the motivations of someone who isn't here to defend themselves. Dispute the issue by all means, but let's try and ease off talking about the mental state of the person who raised it since there's really only one person who knows what's actually going on in her head, and she isn't here.
I missed out on the link so I don't really know who the link source "BS"er is, but yeah, what a silly theory. :D
Hi Guys,
Yes the link was removed.
There are some very silly people who sound very official and very authoritative while being total dorks.
Three things to learn in life. If it is too good to be true, it is. If it is too stupid to be true, it's stupid.
Third. If people hate they have no reason to be accepted in an argument.
Cindy
Cindy.
Quote from: Sephirah on June 29, 2012, 02:23:17 PM
Just to add a note of caution here, folks. However misinformed someone may be, the link to the source was removed for a reason and it's not really fair to discuss the motivations of someone who isn't here to defend themselves. Dispute the issue by all means, but let's try and ease off talking about the mental state of the person who raised it since there's really only one person who knows what's actually going on in her head, and she isn't here.
+1.
Quote from: Cindy James on June 30, 2012, 04:41:52 AM
Hi Guys,
Yes the link was removed.
There are some very silly people who sound very official and very authoritative while being total dorks.
Three things to learn in life. If it is too good to be true, it is. If it is too stupid to be true, it's stupid.
Third. If people hate they have no reason to be accepted in an argument.
Cindy
Cindy.
You ladies rock my socks.
I know the blogger. I read the sources provided. I don't agree with a lot of what this person has to say. T hasn't made me aggressive or angry and a lot of what is being said by this person is not true, but I think by giving this person notoriety we give them power over us.