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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: KamTheMan on July 03, 2012, 07:05:30 PM

Poll
Question: Do you sag?
Option 1: I need to sag to hide my hips votes: 4
Option 2: I don't need to sag to hide my hips votes: 16
Option 3: Sagging is bad, I don't care how my hips look votes: 12
Title: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: KamTheMan on July 03, 2012, 07:05:30 PM
I noticed a mention in the badass thread about this and felt like starting a thread about it. I wear my pants far below my hips because it makes them disappear. My mom and brother are constantly bitching about it because they're always falling more than intended, and I pull them up a bit but I can't wear my jeans up too high or my hips just pop out. How many guys out there do the same?
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Nygeel on July 03, 2012, 07:20:29 PM
Uh...where on your body do you wear your pants? To me "below the hips" means you have them under your butt/at the top of your thigh or lower and to me that doesn't really make much sense.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Stealthy on July 03, 2012, 07:40:51 PM
I've always worn my pants really low on my hips, even before I realized I was trans. Wearing them higher triggers my sensory issues, and after my hips developed I always hated them enough to want to hide them, so...

I think he's saying he wears them on his hip dip-the flat part of your hips.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: AdamMLP on July 03, 2012, 07:46:46 PM
I wear them where ever they fit me really.  A lot of my trousers don't fit because I have no idea what size I am, although I'm just starting to work out that I'm probably a 11-12 y/o boys, so I put them on and then shove them down as far as they will go over my hips (which isn't far) and leave them at that so I don't look like an old man.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Adam (birkin) on July 03, 2012, 08:46:28 PM
I do wear them lower, like I don't have them at my belly, lol, but I have a very strict rule of thumb that the pant line can never fall below the buttcrack.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Morgan. on July 03, 2012, 09:10:24 PM
Quote from: Papa Taco on July 03, 2012, 08:46:28 PM
I do wear them lower, like I don't have them at my belly, lol, but I have a very strict rule of thumb that the pant line can never fall below the buttcrack.

Pretty much this. :D
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Frank on July 03, 2012, 09:34:55 PM
Quote from: Papa Taco on July 03, 2012, 08:46:28 PM
I do wear them lower, like I don't have them at my belly, lol, but I have a very strict rule of thumb that the pant line can never fall below the buttcrack.

Like Andy, my pants hang below my gut but definitely not below buttcrack. Most sagging annoys me, I don't need to see eight inches of your red and white polka-dot boxers.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: KamTheMan on July 03, 2012, 09:51:24 PM
Quote from: Nygeel on July 03, 2012, 07:20:29 PM
Uh...where on your body do you wear your pants? To me "below the hips" means you have them under your butt/at the top of your thigh or lower and to me that doesn't really make much sense.

well i've got about six or seven inches between the top of my hips to the tip of my crack. so i wear em right above the crack.. or right at it.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: insideontheoutside on July 03, 2012, 09:57:00 PM
As far as redic "fashion" trends go, this one tops my list. It's inexplicable to me why you would want your ass hanging out of your pants. And as I said over in the "Do I pass" thread, belting your pants right there and then sagging them is only drawing attention to that area of your body (this makes the "but I have hips!" argument invalid)! It's like chubby chicks who insist on wearing shirts that don't cover their muffin tops. Where do you look? Right at that muffin  hanging out there for all to see. And in the case of sagging pants, if you didn't have that thin piece of underwear fabric there you'd be Joe the frekin' plumber. If pants are going below your ass crack, that's a problem. You're not "cool", most people are either laughing at you or shaking their heads, or being disgusted by seeing your ass.

Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Chamillion on July 05, 2012, 02:40:04 AM
I wear my pants below my hips because all my jeans are old, and I bought them when I had larger hips, but now my hips have shrunk so my pants sag  :(

I should really just buy some new jeans. It's been like 4 years.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Jeatyn on July 05, 2012, 08:22:33 AM
I don't know if it's just my body shape but I've never understood this advice...if I wear my jeans low then my hips are even more obvious...I just get a muffin top effect which is never attractive
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Nathan90 on July 05, 2012, 09:23:10 AM
I wear my pants low-ish, but definately without a buttcrack. Don't feel like it would hide my hips though, I think my hips aren't noticable because my pants fit well and my shirts/blouses are a tad bit too big. (I like well fitting shirts, it's just hard to find the right size)

But mostly, this..
Quote from: Frank on July 03, 2012, 09:34:55 PM
I don't need to see eight inches of your red and white polka-dot boxers.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Nygeel on July 05, 2012, 11:10:08 AM
I wear mine below my muffin top...unless they are work pants/dress pants then I'll at the very least TRY to wear them at around belly button level. My issue with all pants is that no matter what I do, even if I wear a belt, they all end up at the same place (unless I have them up REALLY high at my "natural waist."
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Ashley on July 05, 2012, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: insideontheoutside on July 03, 2012, 09:57:00 PM
As far as redic "fashion" trends go, this one tops my list. It's inexplicable to me why you would want your ass hanging out of your pants. And as I said over in the "Do I pass" thread, belting your pants right there and then sagging them is only drawing attention to that area of your body (this makes the "but I have hips!" argument invalid)! It's like chubby chicks who insist on wearing shirts that don't cover their muffin tops. Where do you look? Right at that muffin  hanging out there for all to see. And in the case of sagging pants, if you didn't have that thin piece of underwear fabric there you'd be Joe the frekin' plumber. If pants are going below your ass crack, that's a problem. You're not "cool", most people are either laughing at you or shaking their heads, or being disgusted by seeing your ass.



well said
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: aleon515 on July 05, 2012, 02:51:24 PM
Mine aren't saggy exactly but they are baggy. Men's pants fit oddly so there is an issue there. I'd rather not squish myself.

--Jay Jay
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Nygeel on July 05, 2012, 07:03:23 PM
The only way to find if it makes a difference is to compare. I'm doing just that.

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Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Julian on July 05, 2012, 09:49:18 PM
Quote from: Nygeel on July 05, 2012, 07:03:23 PM
The only way to find if it makes a difference is to compare. I'm doing just that.

Hm. Your butt looks a little flatter with your pants sagged maybe, but other than that I don't really see a difference.

(The side view on the right is sagged, right?)
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Nygeel on July 05, 2012, 10:00:37 PM
Quote from: Julian on July 05, 2012, 09:49:18 PM
Hm. Your butt looks a little flatter with your pants sagged maybe, but other than that I don't really see a difference.

(The side view on the right is sagged, right?)
Right is sagged on the side view.
I think from the back and the side it makes a difference. Makes my butt look bigger having them up higher.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Julian on July 05, 2012, 10:30:10 PM
Quote from: Nygeel on July 05, 2012, 10:00:37 PM
Right is sagged on the side view.
I think from the back and the side it makes a difference. Makes my butt look bigger having them up higher.

Yeah, but it doesn't make a noticeable difference in the hip area. Not that you've really got hips to begin with.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: AdamMLP on July 06, 2012, 12:44:51 AM
Hip-wise it doesn't look much different, but in terms of overall look the sagged ones make you pass much more, but without going to the extent of being sagged to the point of showing off your underwear.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: insideontheoutside on July 06, 2012, 01:37:00 PM
Actual sagging means pants below your ass. I think some of what you guys might be calling sagging is just low-rise. But anything that is worn close to the actual hip bone (where your hip joint is, not the hip crest) has a tendency to accentuate that area. That's why chicks love low rise jeans so much is because it accentuates their hips and gives them that girly figure.

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Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: Edge on July 06, 2012, 01:56:23 PM
I wear baggy, low rise pants just under where my hips bones stick out because I hope the bagginess, the top of my pants, and my belt will be seen as the reason for my shape. That and I like wearing baggy pants and having my pants pulled up higher makes me feel like Steve Urkel. My underwear does not show.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: James42 on July 07, 2012, 12:42:37 PM
immediately who I thought of...
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nuff said...
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: dalebert on July 07, 2012, 02:27:17 PM
Quote from: Chamillion on July 05, 2012, 02:40:04 AM
I should really just buy some new jeans. It's been like 4 years.

You're such a guy.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: GhostTown11 on July 07, 2012, 02:30:34 PM
I sag my pants *slightly* as I have long girly legs.

I think it disguises your hips but w.e.
Title: Re: Sagging my pants so my hips will pass..
Post by: KamTheMan on July 07, 2012, 06:17:02 PM
so many responses lol. i'm not talkin bieber sag where ur walkin around with ur hand holdin ur shiz up. yes, i do have to pull them up multiple times a day when gravity works its magic. like Adam1 said, i have LONG girly legs so wearing my jeans down a little elongates my torso and looks good. when i yank them up a too high my body shape is out of whack, i guess it's hard to explain..