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Title: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: SarahM777 on July 23, 2012, 07:51:48 AM
As humans we all have a deep longing to be at the place where we can call home. Looking at where our "home"is can tell us a bit about ourselves and where our heart is at. So then where is your home?
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Constance on August 11, 2012, 09:54:32 AM
The place where I live doesn't really feel like "home" to me. This is because of the divorce and the fact that my family of creation is now spread over 3 different residences for 4 people.

I can honestly say that I feel like I have a "church home" as the church I go to has been most welcome to me in my transition.

There's a cafe in Redwood City that's a "home" of sorts for me.

I used to describe myself as a "spiritual nomad" but I feel like in that regard, I'm settling down. For many years during my marriage, our residences were temporary situations (we knew we'd be getting a bigger apartment, we knew we'd be moving out of the house when the estate was to be liquidate). But the last place we had seemed like "home." Then I came out and started transition. Then, I was divorced and we had to move.

So, I don't know where my over-arching home is, but there are places that feel home-like to me.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: SarahM777 on August 13, 2012, 07:19:50 PM
This as a Christian should be the cry of our heart

Maranatha by Michael Card

Maranatha is a cry of the heart
That's hopeful yet weary of waiting
While it may be joyful with the burdens it bears
It's sick with anticipating
To long for the Promised One day after day
And the promise that soon He'd return
It's certain that waiting's the most bitter lesson
A believing heart has to learn

Chorus
Maranatha,
How many more moments must this waiting last
Maranatha, we long for the time when all time is past
A commotion, a call then that will be all
Though it's not yet the hour
The minutes are ticking away

Maranatha is the shout of the few
Who for so long in history've been hiding
Who truly believe that the sound of that call
Might actually hasten His coming
For no eye has seen and no ear has yet heard
And no mind has ever conceived
The joy of the moment when He will appear
To the wonder of all who believe

Chorus

Maranatha, how hungry we are just to see Your face
Parousia, to finally fall in one long embrace
A commotion, a call and that will be all
Though it's not yet the hour
The minutes are ticking away

Maranatha - Aramaic meaning "Lord Come"
Parousia- Greek word meaning "coming,arrival"

Because this is not our home. Our home is with Christ
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Devlyn on August 13, 2012, 08:05:52 PM
It hasn't told me yet, I just keep following it. Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: peky on August 13, 2012, 08:43:54 PM
My hart tells me: my home is in a place far, far, far,far, far, far, far, far, away from organized religion
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: justmeinoz on August 14, 2012, 05:09:04 AM
After a lot of searching it is right here, although somewhere on the West Coast of Scotland is a close second.   Now that a lot of my identity issues are being resolved, the actual geographical location is not as important as the people around me.  Nice surroundings help too.

Karen.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: peky on August 14, 2012, 07:18:22 AM
Quote from: justmeinoz on August 14, 2012, 05:09:04 AM
After a lot of searching it is right here, although somewhere on the West Coast of Scotland is a close second.   Now that a lot of my identity issues are being resolved, the actual geographical location is not as important as the people around me.  Nice surroundings help too.

Karen.

Nice Karen,

I reminds me that parts of my hart have been left in many cities: Paris, Nice, Aarhus, Rotterdam, Barcelona, Tarragona, Cadiz, Caracas, Puerto La Cruz, Yasuni, Puero Ayora, Quito, Santiago, Valdivia, Chicago, Cleveland, Denver, and now my hart lies in Virginia.

Any Girls/Boys from these cities?
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Constance on August 14, 2012, 09:35:06 AM
Since this is in the Christianity forum, I thought the question was more philosophical than geographic.

Quote from: SarahM777 on August 13, 2012, 07:19:50 PM
Because this is not our home. Our home is with Christ
It's probably safe to say that my religious beliefs are best described as agnostic. My practice is an amalgamation of liberal Christianity (United Church of Christ (http://www.ucc.org/)), Soto Zen Buddhism (Shunryu Suzuki Roshi's lineage), and eclectic solitary Paganism (primarily Wicca and kitchen witchcraft).

This is why I've described myself as a "spiritual nomad." Really, I have "homes" in all three of the aforementioned traditions.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Amazon D on August 14, 2012, 10:21:37 AM
I found home here at my farm but i am so lonely i long to be gone into the next world.

Oh my neighbors are great but they are amish and mennonites and have their own lives. They are safe of course as i am glad i didn't buy in other areas with straight rednecks etc etc.. I do love the country.. so i can't do the city life

Yes i am so lonely i could die..  :'(

I do have mom here who is 89 and will someday soon die and then only god knows..

Yes i am so lonely i could die  :'(

I am letting my garden go even though it could produce a ton more veggies i am just letting the weeds gain on me.. Oh i still have too much food to eat and giving it away is hard around here with so many who have their own gardens..

Yes i am so lonely i could die  :'(
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: gennee on August 14, 2012, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: SarahM777 on August 13, 2012, 07:19:50 PM
This as a Christian should be the cry of our heart

Maranatha by Michael Card

Maranatha is a cry of the heart
That's hopeful yet weary of waiting
While it may be joyful with the burdens it bears
It's sick with anticipating
To long for the Promised One day after day
And the promise that soon He'd return
It's certain that waiting's the most bitter lesson
A believing heart has to learn

Chorus
Maranatha,
How many more moments must this waiting last
Maranatha, we long for the time when all time is past
A commotion, a call then that will be all
Though it's not yet the hour
The minutes are ticking away

Maranatha is the shout of the few
Who for so long in history've been hiding
Who truly believe that the sound of that call
Might actually hasten His coming
For no eye has seen and no ear has yet heard
And no mind has ever conceived
The joy of the moment when He will appear
To the wonder of all who believe

Chorus

Maranatha, how hungry we are just to see Your face
Parousia, to finally fall in one long embrace
A commotion, a call and that will be all
Though it's not yet the hour
The minutes are ticking away

Maranatha - Aramaic meaning "Lord Come"
Parousia- Greek word meaning "coming,arrival"

Because this is not our home. Our home is with Christ


Beautiful words, Sarah.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: peky on August 14, 2012, 12:52:39 PM
Quote from: Connie Anne on August 14, 2012, 09:35:06 AM
Since this is in the Christianity forum, I thought the question was more philosophical than geographic.
It's probably safe to say that my religious beliefs are best described as agnostic. My practice is an amalgamation of liberal Christianity (United Church of Christ (http://www.ucc.org/)), Soto Zen Buddhism (Shunryu Suzuki Roshi's lineage), and eclectic solitary Paganism (primarily Wicca and kitchen witchcraft).

This is why I've described myself as a "spiritual nomad." Really, I have "homes" in all three of the aforementioned traditions.

Non-Christian need not to post?
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Constance on August 14, 2012, 12:58:57 PM
Quote from: peky on August 14, 2012, 12:52:39 PM
Non-Christian need not to post?
I didn't mean to imply that. I just thought that this was a topic that revolved around a religious concept of home.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: peky on August 14, 2012, 01:30:58 PM
Quote from: SarahM777 on July 23, 2012, 07:51:48 AM
As humans we all have a deep longing to be at the place where we can call home. Looking at where our "home"is can tell us a bit about ourselves and where our heart is at. So then where is your home?

Says "place" no "state of mind," yet perhaps she meant a religious thing. I can see how for some Christians "home" is "Jesus," just as I can see how for some Buddhist there is no "home" home is the "absence of home."

I have live with people of many cultures, ethnic groups, languages, and religious. I found "home" in all those places because they are all beautiful places full of wonderful people (sans the religious extremists), at least that is my experience and memory.

So for the time being, Virginia is home, yet often I wonder about the undiscover country

Peace
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Constance on August 14, 2012, 02:40:33 PM
I guess I read too much into it. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Tossu-sama on August 14, 2012, 04:55:10 PM
It's in the very same city I was born in, I noticed it when I was living in another town for studies.

Sure, this is probably the most narrow-minded area in Finland with religion brewing all the possible crap but dammit, it's my home.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: SarahM777 on August 14, 2012, 07:06:50 PM
Quote from: gennee on August 14, 2012, 11:57:22 AM

Beautiful words, Sarah.

Gennee,

Their not my words but they are so true. One of the first Christian musicians I listened to. A lot of good music and strong lyrics.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: SarahM777 on August 14, 2012, 07:45:22 PM
Quote from: Amazon D on August 14, 2012, 10:21:37 AM
I found home here at my farm but i am so lonely i long to be gone into the next world.

Oh my neighbors are great but they are amish and mennonites and have their own lives. They are safe of course as i am glad i didn't buy in other areas with straight rednecks etc etc.. I do love the country.. so i can't do the city life

Yes i am so lonely i could die..  :'(

I do have mom here who is 89 and will someday soon die and then only god knows..

Yes i am so lonely i could die  :'(

I am letting my garden go even though it could produce a ton more veggies i am just letting the weeds gain on me.. Oh i still have too much food to eat and giving it away is hard around here with so many who have their own gardens..

Yes i am so lonely i could die  :'(

Danielle,

Quick question if you don't mind. Do you get any outside help with your mom? I know it's really,really hard by yourself. I sometimes think I am just here to get her through what she has to go through and after that I just don't care what happens to me afterwards.

We had a 45 day drought here. Lost the whole garden,newly planted wildflowers and the rest of the lawn. But I can be thankful that the blackberries survied and we ended up with so much more than we can ever use (I'm just tired of pulling thorns out of my hands)

Hang in there you are in my prayers.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: SarahM777 on August 14, 2012, 07:50:23 PM
Quote from: peky on August 14, 2012, 01:30:58 PM
Says "place" no "state of mind," yet perhaps she meant a religious thing. I can see how for some Christians "home" is "Jesus," just as I can see how for some Buddhist there is no "home" home is the "absence of home."

I have live with people of many cultures, ethnic groups, languages, and religious. I found "home" in all those places because they are all beautiful places full of wonderful people (sans the religious extremists), at least that is my experience and memory.

So for the time being, Virginia is home, yet often I wonder about the undiscover country

Peace

I did mean place.  See for a Christian home should be where Jesus is at. It's not that Jesus is home. It was meant to show us where we most want to be. Where you most want to be is where home is at. For me this world can not be home the longing of my heart is not in any country,state,city or town,but in a kingdom that is not of this world.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: peky on August 15, 2012, 11:04:11 AM
Quote from: SarahM777 on August 14, 2012, 07:50:23 PM
I did mean place.  See for a Christian home should be where Jesus is at. It's not that Jesus is home. It was meant to show us where we most want to be. Where you most want to be is where home is at. For me this world can not be home the longing of my heart is not in any country,state,city or town,but in a kingdom that is not of this world.

But according to you Jesus: "The Kindom of Heaven is within You" Luke 17:21 So, it really does not matter whether is in this world, or any world, but for as long as you are, the kindom of heaven shall be with you. That is assuming we can and/or are allowed to enter
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Amazon D on August 15, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: SarahM777 on August 14, 2012, 07:45:22 PM
Danielle,

Quick question if you don't mind. Do you get any outside help with your mom? I know it's really,really hard by yourself. I sometimes think I am just here to get her through what she has to go through and after that I just don't care what happens to me afterwards.

We had a 45 day drought here. Lost the whole garden,newly planted wildflowers and the rest of the lawn. But I can be thankful that the blackberries survied and we ended up with so much more than we can ever use (I'm just tired of pulling thorns out of my hands)

Hang in there you are in my prayers.

No i take care of mom 24/7/365/yr after yr and well that actually helps give me something to do. I just can't talk to her because she forgets every 2 seconds.. I really need a roommate / partner but it seems anybody who would want to live with me wants to live in the cities and i hate them.. I love the simple country life..
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: King Malachite on August 15, 2012, 04:23:44 PM
I can't quite say that I have a home in this world.  I just happen to be a resident of Earth temporarily.  I feel that I'm at home the most when I imagine myself in my own little anime world.  It's when I feel the most alive.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: SarahM777 on August 15, 2012, 05:56:04 PM
Quote from: peky on August 15, 2012, 11:04:11 AM
But according to you Jesus: "The Kindom of Heaven is within You" Luke 17:21 So, it really does not matter whether is in this world, or any world, but for as long as you are, the kindom of heaven shall be with you. That is assuming we can and/or are allowed to enter

While that is true it leaves out what Jesus said to Pilate when He was on trial

John 18 33-37

33 Pilate then went back inside the palace, summoned Jesus and asked him, "Are you the king of the Jews?"

34 "Is that your own idea," Jesus asked, "or did others talk to you about me?"

35 "Am I a Jew?" Pilate replied. "Your own people and chief priests handed you over to me. What is it you have done?"

36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place."

37 "You are a king, then!" said Pilate.

Jesus answered, "You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me."


The writer of Hebrews also points out that the early men and woman of faith were waiting for a country not of this world.

13 All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth. 14 People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. 15 If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.


We can enter into His kingdom but it's one way and one way only. Jesus said I am the way,the truth and the life no man comes to the father but by Me. He said I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live though they die. He said I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. He said I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. He said Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. (In reverence to the Father)

Anyone who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved. It's His promise.

John at the end of his gospel wrote

John 20  30-31

30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

It is open and free to all who will believe in who Jesus is and what He did.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Eva Marie on August 15, 2012, 07:04:56 PM
I've traveled extensively for work the past few years and i've gotten used to living in different places. I have had a lot of time to think about what constitutes a home (since I was away from mine so much).

For me i've decided that home is wherever my family is. Specific cities don't have much meaning to me, and home ownership is meaningless without family there to fill the house. We can be pretty happy living in a pup tent as long as my family is healthy and safe.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Sarah Louise on August 16, 2012, 09:17:07 AM
My heart tells me this place (earth) is not my home.  My home is with Jesus.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Amazon D on August 16, 2012, 04:17:59 PM
Quote from: Sarah Louise on August 16, 2012, 09:17:07 AM
My heart tells me this place (earth) is not my home.  My home is with Jesus.

amen take me awayyyyy Yahshua  i am ready to goooo  :angel:
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: SarahM777 on August 16, 2012, 07:02:07 PM
Quote from: Amazon D on August 15, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
No i take care of mom 24/7/365/yr after yr and well that actually helps give me something to do. I just can't talk to her because she forgets every 2 seconds.. I really need a roommate / partner but it seems anybody who would want to live with me wants to live in the cities and i hate them.. I love the simple country life..

Most people don't realize how hard it is. It's tougher when one can't get a break once in while.
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: SarahM777 on September 28, 2012, 07:50:59 PM
Michael Card - Maranatha (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvcEEk_HELw#)[yt=425,350]_Nhy6_gjCpk[/yt]
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: Christine on September 28, 2012, 09:14:03 PM
For me, home is wherever my wife or children are.  If I am with them nothing else matters. I can't think of anything else which brings more joy than an evening with my wife of 30 plus years. At this stage in our life, simple pleasures are the best. And we have found a new appreciation for each other and in many ways we have grown closer together since the children left. That stage of our life is gone but the memories thrive and they live in our hearts forever. I am a lucky woman. 
Title: Re: Where does your heart tell you home is at?
Post by: SarahM777 on October 04, 2012, 04:41:09 PM
Where I belong- Building 429 lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zplX5FDDuH0#)[yt=425,350]_Nhy6_gjCpk[/yt]