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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Voice Therapy and Surgery => Topic started by: Apples on August 12, 2012, 05:13:06 AM

Title: Mastering the head resonance should be the first step?
Post by: Apples on August 12, 2012, 05:13:06 AM
Just wondering, I've been checking the genderlife videos for a few days, but I still keep getting a lot of problems with moving the resonance from the throath to the head, and trying to breath and raise the pitch at the same time.

Supossedly, Parts of my head should be vibrating If I am doing it correctly, isn't it? Oh, One thing to mention is that I have never, ever singed on my entire life, so I don't have a lot of control over my own voice. Maybe I should start with karaokes first before trying more difficult things? In fact, I was even considering to get singing lessons. I don't think I'm even vocalising properly...

Thanks.
Title: Re: Mastering the head resonance should be the first step?
Post by: Kelly J. P. on August 12, 2012, 07:51:40 AM
 It's really up to you what happens first. Resonance and pitch are both very important, so as long as they both get done sometimes, then the order doesn't really matter.

Anyway... I'm not actually too sure if parts of your head should be vibrating. I mean, I can definitely feel it in my jaw and chin area, but I don't remember what it was like before I had my girl voice. What I do remember is that, if done properly, the chest shouldn't vibrate much.

As for working on pitch... singing lessons and karaoke are fun, but singing well and singing poorly are no different for pitch practice. A trainer might help you reach higher pitches faster - I don't know - but, the tools are there either way. I found it was effective enough to sing along to music, trying to match the singer's pitch as best as I could.

I used this song for extra-super pitch extremity.
Within Temptation - Angels (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK9qfVQ4Z04#)

Her voice in that one is just... insane.

I would suggest that you practice your pitch as well as your resonance. Resonance is technique, and pitch is practice, so it's good to work on both. I would prioritize pitch if you're something of a genius, and tend to figure out vocal (or other) techniques out quickly. Resonance wouldn't be a big problem for a person like that to learn.

Another suggestion... is to do character voices. This is more of a side-thing, an optional for when you're bored. People who do them tend to have an easier time with this voice thing - I know I had a pretty easy time. I can do plenty of 'em, too, even things like Fat Albert, Watto from Star Wars, Yoda, and such. It's a blast! :P
Title: Re: Mastering the head resonance should be the first step?
Post by: Kelly J. P. on August 12, 2012, 08:22:24 AM
 Oh. Not being able to reach a falsetto is a bit of a downer...

And if your throat hurts, it might just be because your practice sessions may be long. People say they should be fifteen or so minutes... personally, I went for an hour or two at a time, because I'm a terrible person and give up on things if I can't learn them in a few days. Impatience. Stretching your pitch range is no simple thing for your voice, and it's a lot like working out at a gym.

Those singing lessons sound fun, especially if you can't get any alone time to practice. Alone time can be made, but you probably have a scheduled life, and supplementing your practice off of work might be difficult.

Bee Gees, though, eh? :P I'm not sure what the impact of using a falsetto song vs a non-falsetto song is for voice practice, to be honest. It might be just as effective... I don't know. I have always had a decent range, though, with death metal at the bottom, and, well... that song I linked? I guess that's my "Staying Alive". I can't quite do it, but with a little practice, I probably could. A little sound does come out at those pitches. It's just reallllly hard.

 
Title: Re: Mastering the head resonance should be the first step?
Post by: Kelly J. P. on August 12, 2012, 08:34:40 AM
 Ah. That infamous mental barrier. That's probably the most common problem that people can have with voice practice.

I don't really know what works, other than devoting some special time to voice practice and just being really determined. Sorry. That's a pretty individual problem, I guess...
Title: Re: Mastering the head resonance should be the first step?
Post by: leaf on August 13, 2012, 06:27:57 AM
Quote from: Apples on August 12, 2012, 08:29:03 AM
Oddly enough, I have a completely different tone and intonation when speaking in english (softer and a bit higher pitched), but I can't get to use it on spanish. Odd.

I think is more of a mental problem. I try to reach a falsetto, I feel that this is weird, and stop. I'm even thinking of getting Singstar for PS3, just to get a bit of practise with singing. I know it's pretty much useless, but if it can help me with breaking that mental barrier...
I have exactly the same thing! It's SO MUCH easier for me to "up" and soften my voice while speaking english and it doesn't work NEARLY so well with polish... wonder if it's the language or mental barrier thing or both

When I try reaching falsetto I produce a sound that I feel like is not even close and i can't keep it up for more than like 2 to 5 seconds (until i run out of breath) and it sounds like really bad, much worse than my "higher" speaking range...
So i'm obviously doing something wrong but I don't have any post-mutation singing experience (i used to sing a lot before my voice "broke"...) so I can't tell what it is...
Title: Re: Mastering the head resonance should be the first step?
Post by: MadelineB on August 19, 2012, 05:12:30 PM
Quote from: Apples on August 12, 2012, 09:06:22 AM
Anyways, I think it's a matter of resonance Vs Falsetto. falsetto is going to strain me more. I've tried to do it with 10 pages of 20.000 Leagues unders the sea and I'm broken. It's like talking though a small tube, like that I can't open it completely. Probably it's better If try to learn the basics, first.

Better If I talk with the doc tomorrow. Constant raspy voice, non stop need to clear the throat, lots of mucus, can't use high pitch, hurts most of the time, can't breathe and talk, and I feel like If I had two small balls hurting at the end of the neck. Nodules, maybe?
I was having a lot of pain in my face, mucus, limited range, poor breathing, swollen neck glands. My ear nose and throat doctor found extreme chronic sinusitis due to how my sinuses were configured. Any irritation made my passages close up, which led to pressure, pain, and infections.

It was much much easier for me to speak in my female voice after the surgery.