Ok well I decided to delete my account cause ive made so many enemies on here n everytime I come on here some girl makes me feel like I look manly. It was nice knowing some of u n some not so much. But I just wanted to say bye n goodluck to everyone wit there transition. Hope Yall hav happy lives. Byes everyone :)
Manly? Not at all, not even a little.
Manly? Seriously? What planet are these people from?
Even if your avatar is a heavily photshopped glamour shot, you still have to have started from a totally feminine appearance.
Personally I just ignore comments I don't like. They are really just dots on a screen.
I wouldn't delete your account. Just PM someone you trust.
I don't lie to fluff anybodies pillow btw... you don't look manly.
She is gone.
She seemed a bit immature though I guess that's to be expected from an 18 year old.
Quote from: MaidofOrleans on August 24, 2012, 02:02:33 AM
She seemed a bit immature though I guess that's to be expected from an 18 year old.
This!
And so we all learn... and then learn some more, hum
Life,
Axélle
wow... :o
at least we tried to convince her - at the end of the day we just wanted whats best for her - if she can't see it then so be it... ::)
anyways I really do not think she looks manly...
in a few years time she will look in the mirror and say "I should have listened to them"
I do hope the best for her though
Quote from: MaidofOrleans on August 24, 2012, 02:02:33 AM
She seemed a bit immature though I guess that's to be expected from an 18 year old.
It could be argued that this comment isn't very mature, either. My experience is that age has little do to with maturity.
This is a support site, and we all come from different backgrounds and experiences. We should be showing grace to each other, even when that grace isn't returned.
Let's keep the rest of the comments here civil, and avoid any more posts that might be construed as pejorative.
Thank you.
-Connie Anne
Global Moderator
Quote from: Connie Anne on August 24, 2012, 11:54:08 AM
This is a support site, and we all come from different backgrounds and experiences. We should be showing grace to each other, even when that grace isn't returned.
This.
Goodbye, Angelique. Best wishes, hugs, Devlyn
no one in that previous thread thought u looked manly.
But take care and best wishes.
Quote from: Connie Anne on August 24, 2012, 11:54:08 AM
It could be argued that this comment isn't very mature, either. My experience is that age has little do to with maturity.
This is a support site, and we all come from different backgrounds and experiences. We should be showing grace to each other, even when that grace isn't returned.
Let's keep the rest of the comments here civil, and avoid any more posts that might be construed as pejorative.
Thank you.
-Connie Anne
Global Moderator
It wasn't my intention to be immature and mean. Call it more tough love if you will.
Yes there are teenagers that are very mature but it tends to be an exception rather than a rule i'm afraid. Also considering many of her posts were about her difficulties moving forward in transition because of others perceptions of her maturity should be a red flag to her that maybe its something she needs to introspect on.
But this is a goodbye thread, let's keep it to that. Hugs, Devlyn
Hi Angelique,
Try not to take things personally. One of the most important things I have learned is that it isn't about us. When people respond or react it isn't about you, not really. When you talked about giving up on hormones and having surgery people began putting themselves in your place, in a way they began to experience inside themselves what you would be feeling if you were them.
Because once someone get's on estrogen and anti-androgens, etc., once someone transitions M2F, her thought, almost always is, "I wish I had done this sooner." It becomes her only regret. It doesn't really matter what you do, if you transition, if you don't.
What matters is being able to live with yourself. I think that sometimes an individual has to transition late in order to be able to appreciate her new life. Because without that experience of GID worsening, an individual may never begin to truly understand how important transition is and perhaps she would take her new life for granted without that knowledge. Without the suffering that happens before transition.
It doesn't matter how attractive you are. What matters is your relationship with yourself because all other relationships are built on top of your relationship with yourself, it's the foundation. What matters is that you are able to be you.
Other people looked at you and were reminded of their own regrets. The regret that they did not transition sooner. It seemed like they were being critical of you but they weren't. It wasn't about you, it was about personal regrets and frustration. Like I said, don't take it personal, it's not about you.
And it isn't about them either. You may feel offended. You may feel like people were attacking you. The reality is that at the end of the day it's about you and the decisions you make. What you do or don't do won't hurt anybody else but you and the truth is it's your decision. Even when the choices seem difficult or you are getting resistance from others. The decision to give up or to give in is a decision and we all have to live with our decisions, no one else will live with them for us.
I hope you choose some decisions that give you lasting happiness. I have that hope for everyone here.
Men and women who transition are the most self-actualized beings on the face of the earth. They are strong, brave, amazing people who generally have a much deeper appreciation for life.
I hope you will become one of us.
Cheers,
Noey
Quote from: Connie Anne on August 24, 2012, 11:54:08 AM
It could be argued that this comment isn't very mature, either. My experience is that age has little do to with maturity.
This is a support site, and we all come from different backgrounds and experiences. We should be showing grace to each other, even when that grace isn't returned.
Let's keep the rest of the comments here civil, and avoid any more posts that might be construed as pejorative.
Thank you.
-Connie Anne
Global Moderator
Sometimes support means not coddling people. Sometimes support means tough love. Sometimes support means truth telling.
I never said anything about coddling, and truth should be told. My experience is that tough love is usually an oxymoron.
As Devlyn mentioned, "this is a goodbye thread, let's keep it to that."
This is the introduction Susan wrote for the Site Terms of Service and rules to live by: "Every one is welcome at Susan's Place provided you follow a few basic rules: This site is an open support area, and is not generally sexually oriented. The purpose of this site is to provide peer support, and to provide a forum for the discussion of issues related to gender and may include Transsexualism, Transvestism, Crossdressing, or other related topics. This web site exists to offer constructive input and support." The last sentence says it all. Hugs, Devlyn
I was under the impression that the member was already gone. On second thought, knowing the history, I would guess she is still lurking....
So best of luck Angelique. I hope you find what you are looking for in life.
Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on August 24, 2012, 05:10:34 PM
Sometimes support means not coddling people. Sometimes support means tough love. Sometimes support means truth telling.
That should all be tempered by tact and compassion.
Goodbye and good luck hon, you're not at all manly looking!
It's a shame that we sometimes get so upset about some insensitive comment someone has made. Susan's is the best support site on the Internet for those with gender related issues bar none! I understand how easy it is to misconstrue the intent of comments others make at times, because we can't hear the tone and tenor of that individual who is commenting and we can't see the body language either so it's easy to get one's panties in a wad over someone's comment and end up overreacting. When that happens, it would be much better to just take a break for awhile rather than pull your membership because your gender issues will still be with you and this is the best place to discuss things with your peers who understand and can relate.
Quote from: Shantel on August 24, 2012, 06:24:21 PM
Susan's is the best support site on the Internet for those with gender related issues bar none!
Totally agree.
Constructive input doesn't always mean only what a person may want to hear either.
Point well taken, Susan.
Quote from: Susan on August 24, 2012, 09:31:14 PM
Constructive input doesn't always mean only what a person may want to hear either.
Thank you
There were things I like and disliked about her but at the end of the day I think she was just someone with a strong personality. Some people just bring out extreme reactions in people.
I'm not totally comfortable on this site, but that's not necessarily my fault or this site's fault. I hope she can find somewhere better if she can't feel comfortable here.