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Title: Crying
Post by: KamTheMan on September 03, 2012, 10:27:10 AM
Sooo, I'm a cryer. Sad moments in movies/TV/when Dobby died in Harry Potter (THE BOOK). I cried at my brother's wedding, I cried when I found out I got dropped from two classes because I accidentally missed the first day of school. ect, ect. Now, I just consider myself I sensitive badass. But my mom says it's just because I'm girl and can't be a man. Drives me nuts. I assume I wouldn't cry as much if I was on T. Anyways, I'm kind of scared to ask but.. Are there any other sensitive guys like this out there?
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Robert Scott on September 03, 2012, 10:35:12 AM
I personally have never been much of a crier. 

However, my therapist has an ftm brother and she said he cried all the time.  He was a very sensitive guy and now on T he can't cry to save his life.  Also, my kids father who is a cismale - is a crier -- he crys all the time - he cries more than their mom (my wife).  So men do cry.  However, once on T I imagine that you will cry less frequently
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Apples Mk.II on September 03, 2012, 10:36:40 AM
Not so sure if it helps you a lot coming from a cismale, but... Even when I had a "normal" life... Yeah, worst situations will make me cry. Almost losing work, a family member dying, breaking with the gf... "Non sad" emotional situations suchs as a event or movie, yes, the same. And I have enough T to fill a water tank. As I said, I even cried with the Battlestar Galactica finale. And I have never been able to stand E.T. dying every time.


Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Zerro on September 03, 2012, 11:48:44 AM
I used to cry. A lot. And then I sort of grew out of it, so to speak. I found other outlets for those kinds of feelings. One cis dude friend of mine, though, he cries more than I did when I was a kid. It's interesting, but he's just really emotional and crying helps him through it. Some people tend to cry, others don't.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: aleon515 on September 03, 2012, 04:26:14 PM
I am not on T, but I can tell you that my estrogen is quite low. I don't cry anywhere near as much. It is actually kind of hard to get me to do this. Don't know what my T level is, but I wonder if the crying tendencies comes from estrogen.

--Jay Jay
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Sly on September 03, 2012, 04:44:16 PM
I went through a few years of being really depressed and crying myself to sleep every night.  One day it just kinda stopped, like I'd just run out of tears or something.  I've cried since then, but very infrequently and the tears don't flow as readily as they used to.

I've heard some guys say that they stopped or found it much harder to cry after being on T.  I wouldn't know, since this all happened before that for me.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Tay on September 03, 2012, 05:59:27 PM
I used to cry if I was really upset but more often if I was angry or frustrated with someone/something.

Now I find it very hard to cry if I'm upset but I cry sometimes when I see someone overcome something/win something they've fought hard for. It's weird.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Ayden on September 03, 2012, 07:33:39 PM
Man, I bawled my eyes out when Hedwig died! She killed the owl! Why?! And Snape. After I read his memories... got me. The Reichenbach Fall - feel city and that was after getting on T. I was bawling my eyes out after he said "This is my letter." So many feels.  :laugh:

Yeah, don't worry, I cry. Not all the time, but when I am sad I do, or when something has too many feel inducing aspects. Men cry too, just for some of them there is social conditioning that makes it more difficult. I have also heard that the tear ducts in men are larger so I guess they can hold more tears? Something like that, I'm not entirely sure. My partner, a bio guy, had the waterworks going over a scene in a video game the other day.

I've been on T for 6 months and I cry just easily now as I did before. I just cry less overall because I am happier.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: King Malachite on September 03, 2012, 09:17:22 PM
I'm not on T so I can't speak for that but when I find that since I've came out to myself as a transman and accepted that it seems like I can cry at the drop of a hat or at least have tears fill my eyes without them dropping..  Other than having my property destroyed I wasn't that big of a cryer before.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Biscuit_Stix on September 03, 2012, 09:37:08 PM
I'm not much of a crier myself, but the occasional something will wreck me. Like, Kung Fu Panda 2 had me balled up in my theatre seat crying like a child. Still not sure why... *ahem* ANYWHOO, as far as being manly and crying? Cracked did an article on 6 'Wuss' Behaviors That Were Once Badass Survival Instincts.' Apparently crying made number one. It's because it's a silent way to tell everyone around you, 'Hey, I'm totally being mauled by this panther, but I don't want to scream and draw in a herd of them and get you killed too, so look at these tears yo, this sh!t sucks. You should run away now.' At least, that's what I got out of it... It's been awhile since I read it.

So, link http://www.cracked.com/article_19224_6-wuss-behaviors-that-were-once-badass-survival-instincts_p2.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_19224_6-wuss-behaviors-that-were-once-badass-survival-instincts_p2.html)

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Ayden on September 03, 2012, 09:57:19 PM
Quote from: Biscuit_Stix on September 03, 2012, 09:37:08 PM
I'm not much of a crier myself, but the occasional something will wreck me. Like, Kung Fu Panda 2 had me balled up in my theatre seat crying like a child. Still not sure why... *ahem* ANYWHOO, as far as being manly and crying? Cracked did an article on 6 'Wuss' Behaviors That Were Once Badass Survival Instincts.' Apparently crying made number one. It's because it's a silent way to tell everyone around you, 'Hey, I'm totally being mauled by this panther, but I don't want to scream and draw in a herd of them and get you killed too, so look at these tears yo, this sh!t sucks. You should run away now.' At least, that's what I got out of it... It's been awhile since I read it.

So, link http://www.cracked.com/article_19224_6-wuss-behaviors-that-were-once-badass-survival-instincts_p2.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_19224_6-wuss-behaviors-that-were-once-badass-survival-instincts_p2.html)

Enjoy.

Wow, I had forgotten about that article!  :laugh: I love cracked.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: GendrKweer on September 03, 2012, 10:02:09 PM
"I assume I wouldn't cry as much if I was on T."

Maybe? I never cried until a year on HRT estrogen. The past few years, sometimes, somethings get to me like they never did before, silly things or things in a movie or tv.... i've had a few proper crying jags, which actually feel cathartic and make me feel very very lucky to be able to experience them more freely and to experience things more fully in general these days. :)
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Ayden on September 04, 2012, 02:57:18 AM
On the topic, husband and I just read this article, The 8 Most Badass Make-A-Wish Foundation Wishes, and we had ourselves a pretty good cry. I don't think I know anyone who could not get a least a little emotional at how sweet, great and reaffirming that humans don't suck all the time this article is.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19389_the-8-most-badass-make-a-wish-foundation-wishes.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_19389_the-8-most-badass-make-a-wish-foundation-wishes.html)

If it doesn't inspire any emotions, you may be a robot.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Walter on September 04, 2012, 11:52:22 AM
Oh yes...I'm a big crier

I cry when I'm having an emotionally hard day. I cry at sad moments on TV/games/movies. I cry when I feel I have to. I try to hide myself when I'm crying but sometimes that doesn't work. I never saw sensitivity and crying as a gender exclusive thing because in my belief, everyone should be able to cry..and everyone should cry when they need to, whatever gender they are
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: dalebert on September 04, 2012, 12:07:16 PM
Quote from: Ayden on September 04, 2012, 02:57:18 AM
If it doesn't inspire any emotions, you may be a robot.

You got to me.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Sephirah on September 04, 2012, 02:14:29 PM
Quote from: KyleXX on September 03, 2012, 10:27:10 AM
Are there any other sensitive guys like this out there?

Plenty.

Of the guys I know, the ones who feel comfortable crying as a form of catharsis are those who didn't grow up having it drilled into them that it wasn't okay, using the age old "keep that up and I'll give you something to really cry about" line. I'm not sure it's about hormones as much as mental conditioning for some people.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Natkat on September 04, 2012, 02:19:03 PM
Quote from: Sylvester on September 03, 2012, 04:44:16 PM
I went through a few years of being really depressed and crying myself to sleep every night.  One day it just kinda stopped, like I'd just run out of tears or something.  I've cried since then, but very infrequently and the tears don't flow as readily as they used to.

same I used to cry alot every night, but somehow it just stopped, not nessesarry T even when I think it might got alittle infected as I feel its harder to cry on T..

I still cry somethimes but its soundless and only like small tears if im very frustrating,
Somethimes I feel annoyed of it, like I want to cry not to look like a cold person who dosent care.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Apples Mk.II on September 04, 2012, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: Sephirah on September 04, 2012, 02:14:29 PM
Plenty.

Of the guys I know, the ones who feel comfortable crying as a form of catharsis are those who didn't grow up having it drilled into them that it wasn't okay, using the age old "keep that up and I'll give you something to really cry about" line. I'm not sure it's about hormones as much as mental conditioning for some people.


Pretty much that. I remember growing up with a song that went like: "Kids mustn't cry, the have to fight" I would not see a man crying until Saint Seiya.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Ayden on September 04, 2012, 08:17:52 PM
Quote from: dalebert on September 04, 2012, 12:07:16 PM
You got to me.

I know, right? Grats, Dalebert! You are officially not a robot!
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Kevin Peña on September 04, 2012, 09:06:22 PM
I would never cry because I was always raised not to as a boy. I had a nervous breakdown and now I cry whenever I feel like it.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: AndrewL on September 05, 2012, 03:29:09 PM
Yes, there are other sensitive guys out there. I still cry at books and movies and I'm grateful for it. The worse periods of my life were when I forced myself to stop crying...that lead to self-injury & cutting. I now rejoice that I can cry, both for the characters I like and for myself when being who I am is too much to handle.

The "guys can't cry" thing is cisnormative bull->-bleeped-<-. Plenty of guys cry, even more probably need to.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: UCBerkeleyPostop on September 05, 2012, 06:51:55 PM
Quote from: KyleXX on September 03, 2012, 10:27:10 AM
Sooo, I'm a cryer. Sad moments in movies/TV/when Dobby died in Harry Potter (THE BOOK). I cried at my brother's wedding, I cried when I found out I got dropped from two classes because I accidentally missed the first day of school. ect, ect. Now, I just consider myself I sensitive badass. But my mom says it's just because I'm girl and can't be a man. Drives me nuts. I assume I wouldn't cry as much if I was on T. Anyways, I'm kind of scared to ask but.. Are there any other sensitive guys like this out there?

It is OK for guys to cry. Just ask John Boehner.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Ayden on September 05, 2012, 09:17:11 PM
Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on September 05, 2012, 06:51:55 PM
It is OK for guys to cry. Just ask John Boehner.

Picking an example of a man who gets made fun for crying isn't exactly helpful here. The point we are making is its okay to cry, and you pick someone who is not only very unpopular but gets made fun for crying.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: KamTheMan on September 06, 2012, 12:19:10 AM
Hey everone, I really appreciate all these responses. Thank you all so much. I feel much more secure in my sensitivity now. I've always liked it about myself and feel it makes me a better person than I would be otherwise. I shouldn't let my mom get to me like that. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: dalebert on September 06, 2012, 08:45:07 AM
I cry very easily. 90% of the tear-jerker movies get to me.

Meanwhile, Legends of the Fall is one of my favorite movies ever. If you're not crying by the end of it, you better figure out who stole your soul before it's too late!
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: therewolf on September 06, 2012, 04:30:32 PM
I agree with everyone that being sensitive is totally okay and does not make you less of a man.

It is possible that you would cry less on T. It's not necessarily good. After I was on T about four months, I suddenly discovered after a really bad day that I couldn't cry anymore. It was just not in the drop-down menu. Gone. Trying to cry was like trying to hiccup on purpose. I think I spent ten minutes making faces and going "HNNNNNNGH" before I realized it wasn't happening. Now I'm learning other ways to deal with negative feelings, since the formerly-fast-and-easy way doesn't work. The only time I've really cried since then was right after surgery.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: GQBookworm on September 07, 2012, 09:12:34 AM
I've always had very low estrogen, but in the last few months I've gotten where practically anything makes me tear up a little.  Not full-on crying -- that's always been rare, and continues to be so -- but teary-eyed.  It's weird.  I think it may be because of changes in my psych meds?  Dunno.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Luc on September 08, 2012, 07:47:06 PM
Yeah, I'm a pretty sensitive guy; before T, I cried at both sad and happy movies. There's nothing wrong with crying as a man; in fact, a lot of women really dig it. Check out the "Cry Me a River" thread in my blog (link in my signature) for more info on what I experienced as per crying on T; I'd go into it more in this post, but really, I already explained it all in that. It's in June's posts.

Luc
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: henrytwob on September 09, 2012, 01:02:35 AM
I cry at sad movies (who could not cry at the end of Marley and Me?) and I cry at emotional moments. I know when my son leaves for college I will probably tear up. My younger son, the  16 year old 2nd degree black belt, cries also, so it cannot be a totally hormonal thing.

Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Magnus on September 09, 2012, 01:03:23 AM
Everybody cries. I do not give a damn who they are or what they claim. Everyone.

That over with, I cry. Very rarely, but it happens. The day we put one our dogs down I bawled like an infant and this was a dog that didn't particularly like me or any males (we adopted him, previously abused).

Same thing with the 'Harry Potter' series. Snape's bit really got my goat. Book and movie both. Not to gloat, but I knew he was a 'good guy' all along. Nah-nah.
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Ayden on September 09, 2012, 01:28:24 AM
Quote from: Magnus on September 09, 2012, 01:03:23 AM
Same thing with the 'Harry Potter' series. Snape's bit really got my goat. Book and movie both. Not to gloat, but I knew he was a 'good guy' all along. Nah-nah.

I grew up with the series, so I cried just because it was over. I read the last book at 18, so I have grown up roughly in line with Harry's age in the books. When the last movie was done, I bawled my eyes out too. It felt like a really important part of childhood was over and it made me sad and happy at the same time. I dunno why. I'm weird like that.

That being said, I'm re-reading the books again so, it didn't really end.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Ruthven on September 09, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
I'm a very emotional person. I was absolutely bawling during The Abyss at one point. Just complete hysterical sobbing. Same went for near the end of the game Shadow of the Colossus. It really got to me especially since I adore horses.

I also absolutely squeal with joy and gush over things I find adorable, romantic, sweet, etc., and laugh like a maniac over anything I find hilarious.  :P


Title: Re: Crying
Post by: GQBookworm on September 09, 2012, 03:03:42 PM
Quote from: Ruthven on September 09, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
Same went for near the end of the game Shadow of the Colossus. It really got to me especially since I adore horses.

Oh, man, anything with animals getting hurt just kills me.  (I haven't seen the end of the game, but I'm guessing from context.) Especially cats.  I have a deep love of cats, and I can't even stand hurt-kitty jokes.  Hell, if one of my cats even looks sad I feel compelled to hug them.  Crazy cat dude?  Absolutely.  :)
Title: Re: Crying
Post by: Walter on September 10, 2012, 01:18:28 AM
Quote from: Ruthven on September 09, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
Same went for near the end of the game Shadow of the Colossus. It really got to me especially since I adore horses.

Yeah..the end of that game is sad

I just had about an hour long crying session..all I can say is that it relieved most of my stress and got rid of my stress headache. So I guess there are some good things about crying..