I am currently wondering for this so I want peoples opinions.
I really want this surgery for a long time. I have no desire in being able to bleed, being able to get pregnant or having the fear of either of those, neither do I like to have them, they have caused me nothing but pain trouble and worries.
I also got recommended to do it as for a risk of cancer. I know 1 transguy who got cancer cause he didnt get it removed in time and there is a great risk of cancer in my moms famely. my mom actually got made the surgery because of her cancer risk (of corse after I was born)
now I do have a couple of worries.
1, for you who had PIV sex or penetration, how is it afterward?
I know you will wait a time (6 weeks right) before you can do it, but after those 6 weeks is it like the same?)
I lost most of my sensation in my nipples after top surgery, while I dont regreat I did it I still fell sad of the lost of sensation, and the idea of losing sensations downstairs is pretty frightning. I cant really compare for other ftms I know since non of them as I know is into penetration sex, so its not an issue for them at all.
2,
I had alot period pains for a long time, even without periods, would these go away after getting it done?
3, I had alot of imflamations of the bladder since I was a kid and now growing up. will that have any effect, worse or better?
please answer or feel free to share your own story oh how you feel about it.
Quote from: Abracadabra on September 19, 2012, 12:03:35 PM
Hum, I can only speak from second hand experience... do I need to say? ::)
1. You will not lose sensation at all. I know this from a few hysterectomised cis-FAAB. In fact once healed you find PIV is more OK than before. It's what I'm told.
BTW, your nipple sensation has a good chance to return (most of it) but it will take time.
2. No more period pains, as ovaries and womb will be gone.
Only with partial hysterectomy there could still be cramping with e.g. retained ovaries.
Note: you will produce no more estrogen and this could create some issues with hormone balance, like acne, headaches, oily skin, rough skin, hirsutism, etc.
3. I would not expect hysterectomy to have an influence on bladder infections.
Those are often caused by friction/rubbing on the vulva/urethra exit during PIV (maybe masturbation...) and also one's general state of health.
Question: Did you ever try sting-nettle-root infusion (tea)?
It is a very good natural remedy for bladder issues, I am using it of late.
Best of luck,
Axélle
sure everyone is allowed to post as long its relevant to the topic.
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I had talked with my doctor who giving me homones about my cramps I always had horrible pain but it got better on T, still got it even without blood but he said it was imposible and it was just me (I mean.. come on, I got pain its not something I tell myself)
a last worry I forgot to mention where due to the homones. I think im pretty satified as my homon level now.
I mean I pass my voice is deep but im not super hairy or have alot of acny. I bet I would like to keep it like that, but I guess I could talk with my doctor and other ftms for advice, heard that you would need to cut down alittle on your testostorone like taking half the dose of what you did before or something.
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Those are often caused by friction/rubbing on the vulva/urethra exit during PIV (maybe masturbation...)
Question: Did you ever try sting-nettle-root infusion (tea)? DAIM! now I thought the opposite since sex and mastrubation is healthy that it would actually be helping XD...
No I havent the tea, I got it recomended together with.. something I dont know how to translate to in english.
but I didnt found it last time I seached so I will try again.
I do drink alot of water and crenberry juice. as my doctor told me I should. but I might also have some extra illness I havent checked yet. we are currently trying to figure out.
I just had it done two and a half weeks ago, so I can't answer all of your questions just yet. But I haven't noticed a loss of feeling. It does hurt afterwards kind of like a period (at least as far as I can remember, it has been a few years since I've had one), but that died down within a week for me. I wouldn't expect any period pains after this, since the parts that cause those are gone. As for the last question I can't help you, I don't have bladder infections regularly if at all.
My Aunt had it done about a year ago, due to cysts. I asked her the same questions recently and she said that it feels a little different. It isn't bad, and doesn't lose sensation. She described it as saying her cervix was no longer there so it felt like her husband went further in during sex. Of course, she also hated the sensation of her cervix being pressed on, so she was happy with it. I do know some people (female and trans guys) who do like the sensation of having the cervix pressed. But as far as sensitivity to everything else, my Aunt said it was the same or close to it - she did mention that after about two months of nothing everything felt amplified.
Quote from: Ayden on September 19, 2012, 06:20:05 PM
My Aunt had it done about a year ago, due to cysts. I asked her the same questions recently and she said that it feels a little different. It isn't bad, and doesn't lose sensation. She described it as saying her cervix was no longer there so it felt like her husband went further in during sex. Of course, she also hated the sensation of her cervix being pressed on, so she was happy with it. I do know some people (female and trans guys) who do like the sensation of having the cervix pressed. But as far as sensitivity to everything else, my Aunt said it was the same or close to it - she did mention that after about two months of nothing everything felt amplified.
im one of those who dont, so its all good news up to now.
I had it done almost a year ago. I had bladder issues afterward, but I had a v-nectomy, so that was mostly why.
I no longer have any kind of period-like pain, and mine was severe before. No loss of sensation. Dryness has been a (occasional, minor) problem.
Quote from: therewolf on September 20, 2012, 06:54:04 PM
I had it done almost a year ago. I had bladder issues afterward, but I had a v-nectomy, so that was mostly why.
you mean like the did it thou the hole and not cut you up above right?
I do consider that kind of surgery, But I want to know what my doctor would say and recomend.
Nope. They were going to try to use the robot, but for some reason ended up doing the usual cut down near the hairline instead. Bummer, but oh well. The problem was the vaginectomy, because then they had to put in the bladder sling, which was the reason I wound up having bladder problems.
therewolf, are you having any problems now that you can relate to your hyster? How long have you been on T, do you think T helps to strength your pelvic area? I want to be rid of all those parts but also interested in knowing if I can expect any problems due to having them removed.
Quote from: Natkat on September 19, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
I know 1 transguy who got cancer cause he didnt get it removed in time
So your saying the testosterone gave him cancer b/c he didn't have a hysto? How long was he on T when he got the cancer?
Quote from: Dominick_81 on September 26, 2012, 10:19:28 PM
So your saying the testosterone gave him cancer b/c he didn't have a hysto? How long was he on T when he got the cancer?
I don't think there is any evidence that cancer is caused by T. It is awkward, unpleasant for guys to get checked (cervix, etc.). I am guessing he didn't get health checked.
The hysto would eliminate the need for this, I'd guess.
--Jay J
I've known a couple of ciswomen who had hysto. They found that the main effect they experienced was becoming a little masculinized (i.e. body hair, oilier skin, body fat redistribution etc). That's because the ovaries and uterus secrete estrogen. Ciswomen often regard this as a problem, but you may actually find it helpful.
Quote from: aleon515 on September 27, 2012, 06:22:45 PM
I don't think there is any evidence that cancer is caused by T. It is awkward, unpleasant for guys to get checked (cervix, etc.). I am guessing he didn't get health checked.
The hysto would eliminate the need for this, I'd guess.
--Jay J
Probably true. I don't T causes cancer, or else there would be a lot of folks, trans and not with cancer of some sort. It may have been a genetic thing or maybe proper steps were not taken to ensure that everything was healthy. It sucks to have to go and put your feet up for a doc to look at something you don't feel you should have, but it is still a part of the body that needs medical care.
I have heard that some guys get cysts, but I haven't seen any 100% proof for it. All I have seen that claimed without a doubt that T causes cancer was on a certain blog, but I don't give it much credit since a lot of what is cited is outdated studies.
I think that just still having the parts and as we all get older cancer risk increases. Anyone with those parts is advised to get an annual exam and pap smear every year; this is what I want to avoid for sure. How could I be living completely as a guy and have to go to a dr, could even be a GYN, every year for such an exam this would be the worst dypheria I could have.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on September 26, 2012, 10:19:28 PM
So your saying the testosterone gave him cancer b/c he didn't have a hysto? How long was he on T when he got the cancer?
I don't know exactly how long he had been before he got it, his an older guy so it could have been for a longer time. its one of my friends friend.
I know he wanted to get them removed but the system was complicated and they didn't really want to give him permission to make the surgery, so a long time went and when he had it done it was already to late.
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I dont wanna cover everything dark by words* (or what people say in english) but I do have some pains those areas my doctors dont know what causes, + there is a risk of cancer in my moms famely where her sister died very young(in her 20ties). so it is something I got in mind not to mention we are pretty much in the same situation where you can fear to not getting the right threatment when its needed.
ex: when I was making my top surgery I was refused to get a check of my doctor to see if everything was fine because she didnt want to deal with transgender issues, it took me a long time before I could get it checked probably, I had to be checked because there had been some blood in one of the sides of my cheast but my surgion said it probably would go away by itself and be okay but if not I should get threatment. Long story short, but I was lucky to find someone fast who could check me even when my doctor refused me and she was told to be the only one who could send me the right papers for the check and so on) But I might not had been that lucky, I could as well had seached with no luck for a new doctor who would had helped me and I could had waited so long that when I got it checked it had got alot worse.
without knowing all details from what I heard that was what happent to the guy with cancer.
I dont think every trans guy on T are very close to cancer, we can all get that but I think my situation is pretty simular to his so I had been warned about that and the risk.
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Quote from: Mosaic dude on September 27, 2012, 08:22:52 PM
I've known a couple of ciswomen who had hysto. They found that the main effect they experienced was becoming a little masculinized (i.e. body hair, oilier skin, body fat redistribution etc). That's because the ovaries and uterus secrete estrogen. Ciswomen often regard this as a problem, but you may actually find it helpful.
naaa.. I dont think so, even if I felt I was being "too maculine" I bet I could figure out with my dose something to fit my old level. I dont think its a problem if you got a doctor to talk about.
Quote from: Ayden on September 28, 2012, 12:07:32 AM
I have heard that some guys get cysts, but I haven't seen any 100% proof for it. All I have seen that claimed without a doubt that T causes cancer was on a certain blog, but I don't give it much credit since a lot of what is cited is outdated studies.
I don't know re cysts. They aren't dangerous. I had them once. But they do make you come around again and get retested. I think they make testing not possible.
--Jay J
Sorry for the late reply, mm.
I don't have any current problems that I relate to the hyster itself, except the occasional dryness, which I mentioned. In that respect, it's been only positive. (I don't have penetrative sex, so I can't speak to that aspect of recovery.) I was on T for ten months at the time of surgery, and now I'm about 18 months. I don't think my surgeon said the T had much effect, except that I was not on birth control, so fewer blood clot worries there. I know that some sources say T slows wound healing, but I recovered pretty much on the same schedule as his cis patients. Then again, I hadn't been on T that long.
I have had bladder problems because of the v-nectomy. It requires repositioning the bladder and putting in some mesh to support it, now that the other parts are gone. Right after surgery, I had a hematoma that kept me from urinating, and was catheterized for about three weeks (UGH), and had to have a urethral dilation done (SUPER UGH). Since then, I have had urination problems that my surgeon told me were caused by my bladder forgetting how to do its thing/getting weak from the long rest. It's not really a big deal, I just have to pee more than once sometimes. He said it'll eventually be back to normal. The more common complication you get with a v-nectomy is apparently incontinence, and I'm REALLY glad I didn't get that.
I do think the recovery was somewhat more painful and difficult for having had the v-nectomy done; there was a great deal of gross cleaning of bottom stitches that would not have been there with an ordinary hysto. Worth it, to me. I discovered later, however, that what an oncological surgeon means by "v-nectomy" and what I imagined are very different. I am not in fact sewed up all closed and have everything gone; there are still a few inches there helping support the urethra. I know that they do often get rid of it if you have the urethral lengthening etc. done. My fault for not asking--my surgeon does not specialize in trans* surgery.
Also, it took about four months for my digestion to return to normal, but I'm not sure how common that is.
Thanks guys.
@Natkat: Sorry you were refused a checkup. That wasn't right of the doctor to do just b/c she didn't want to deal with trans issues. But your better off with someone else anyways than that doctor .
Quote from: Dominick_81 on September 29, 2012, 11:39:50 PM
Thanks guys.
@Natkat: Sorry you were refused a checkup. That wasn't right of the doctor to do just b/c she didn't want to deal with trans issues. But your better off with someone else anyways than that doctor .
I know, my current doctor is much better, and to point it out I got 1, one who deal with my homones,
one who deal with everything ells, practival and for surgery I travel to countrys nearby.
But thing here are complicated, so I need to think about it alittle more carefully.
Quote from: Natkat on September 30, 2012, 03:00:44 AM
I know, my current doctor is much better, and to point it out I got 1, one who deal with my homones,
one who deal with everything ells, practival and for surgery I travel to countrys nearby.
But thing here are complicated, so I need to think about it alittle more carefully.
Glad to hear your current doctor is much better.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on September 30, 2012, 09:49:53 PM
Glad to hear your current doctor is much better.
his not perfect and im not 100% satified with him, but he do not refuse me threatment for being trans so that is good.
therewolf, glad to hear you didn't fine now. Many ciswomen have problems after a hyster, my sil had a one and 3 yrs later had to have a bladder lift and support surgery. Her mother his had several pelvic surgeries. I hope when I have mine it will be simple since I have never had kids and hopefully everything can be removed with no problems afterward. I do want a "v-nectomy", good name I think, but don't know when, as some surgeons use the lining in urethral lengthening which I want too.