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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: suzifrommd on September 30, 2012, 05:56:21 PM

Title: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: suzifrommd on September 30, 2012, 05:56:21 PM
I'm sort of an amateur hypnotist.

Reading hypnosis literature I've come across a lot of stories of women being able to increase their breast size through being hypnotized. One hypnotist guarantees women an entire cup size or their money back.

You probably know where this is going.

There I was pre-hrt, my first therapy appointment still more than a month away, and I thought, I wonder whether this would work on a male body.

What could the harm be? Most likely case, nothing will happen at all.

Well, I started a month ago. Today my wife saw me in a tight fitting t-shirt and said it seemed like I had some development there. I measured. My chest measurement across the nipples has increased an entire inch. This, in a month when I took off two pounds, mostly around my middle.

It worked! I tried feeling around them and it does seem like there's a lot of tissue that wasn't there before. No one will mistake me for a hairy Dolly Parton, but I didn't believe anything would actually happen.

I think I'll be trying it for another month at least and see what "develops".
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: aleon515 on September 30, 2012, 09:47:26 PM
Ok, that's just weird. How about 2 cup sizes less??

--Jay J
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: Beth Andrea on September 30, 2012, 10:33:31 PM
QuoteToday my wife saw me in a tight fitting t-shirt and said it seemed like I had some development there. I measured. My chest measurement across the nipples has increased an entire inch. This, in a month when I took off two pounds, mostly around my middle.

Observations:

1. Stop wearing smaller size T-shirts.  :P (Did the band size change? Measure them at the same time)

2. Losing 2 lbs isn't much...unless you weigh like 74 lbs to begin with.

Not to burst your bubble or anything...but hypnosis is something I'm not really sold on.
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: Elsa on September 30, 2012, 10:38:58 PM
wow ... a case of mind over matter...?

personally don't believe in hypnosis what it seems to work for some people.
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: Veronique on October 01, 2012, 03:17:48 PM
Maybe it is possible. I have this audio recording of some sort of hypnosis or something meant for transgender folk. In the audio recording the person says you can command your subconscious to release more androgen or estrogen whatever the female hormone is called, and lower testosterone. I think it could actually work, and maybe that hypnotist makes the patient release his/her own hormones or whatever triggering breast growth?  :-\
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: Annah on October 01, 2012, 03:36:24 PM
I do not support (or believe) that Hypnosis can change breast size. If your wife said that, it's probably because u all been talking about it. Like "you look like you lost weight!" (when you haven't lost a pound).

You can't trick your brain into releasing more estrogen when there isn't enough there to begin with.

You're just wasting money and/or time with this. Sorry
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: suzifrommd on October 01, 2012, 03:40:18 PM
Quote from: Annah on October 01, 2012, 03:36:24 PM
I do not support (or believe) that Hypnosis can change breast size. If your wife said that, it's probably because u all been talking about it. Like "you look like you lost weight!" (when you haven't lost a pound).

You're just wasting money and/or time with this. Sorry

Yeah, I'm still not sure. They might be larger for some other reason. Luckily I didn't waste either time or money (like I said, I'm a hypnotist, so I didn't have to pay anyone else, and I ran the scripts in my head while I was doing something else.) I wouldn't have believed it normally, but I did measure them, and they are bigger by about an inch.
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: Annah on October 01, 2012, 03:52:06 PM
u should have a neutral party member measure you. As a hypnotist, you will understand that you may subconsciously skew the measuring to see results. People do this all the time when measuring themselves when losing weight
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: JennX on October 01, 2012, 05:57:44 PM
You could always just get implants?  ???
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: JoanneB on October 01, 2012, 06:00:08 PM
With the weather getting colder I know I can easily gain 2" across the nips  :P
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: RedFox on October 01, 2012, 06:14:24 PM
Science has thousands of documented cases of the mind influencing and controlling the body.  It's called a psycho-somatic response.  The simplest example of this that most people can relate to is this:  have you ever called into work or school sick in order to just take the day off for personal reasons and through the course of working yourself up to act and sound sick on the phone you actually end up feeling like crap?  The body believes what the mind tells it - to a degree.

Athletes improve their skills through mental imagery and MRI tests show the same neural development and growth through imagining practice as it does through actual physical practice.

I've read numerous books on related topics as the subject of "human potential" is a hobby of mine.

Self-hypnosis can indeed influence the body - within certain limits.
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: Annah on October 01, 2012, 06:24:29 PM
Quote from: SageFox on October 01, 2012, 06:14:24 PM
Science has thousands of documented cases of the mind influencing and controlling the body.  It's called a psycho-somatic response.  The simplest example of this that most people can relate to is this:  have you ever called into work or school sick in order to just take the day off for personal reasons and through the course of working yourself up to act and sound sick on the phone you actually end up feeling like crap?  The body believes what the mind tells it - to a degree.

Mentally convincing yourself to be sick to your stomach is not the same as thinking your boobs will get big and then it does.
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: vexedvee on October 01, 2012, 07:53:14 PM
I would just like to say that hypnosis is real. Not the silly stage shows and gimmicky stuff you see on tv; that's all rather absurd. But true hypnosis is something we experience all the time and just don't realise it.

With the help of an audio tape, I was able to go on a 40 day water-fast.

Although in the case of using hypnosis to encourage breast growth, I would have to see it to believe it.

**Gosh it took me a million tries to input the verification code correctly... I kept putting spaces between the letters lol.

Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: peky on October 01, 2012, 09:44:33 PM
Quote from: Annah on October 01, 2012, 03:52:06 PM
u should have a neutral party member measure you. As a hypnotist, you will understand that you may subconsciously skew the measuring to see results. People do this all the time when measuring themselves when losing weight

There is no such a thing as "subconscious," there is the conscious and the not conscious (Sigmund Freud, The Unconscious, 1915)

There are so many documented cases of mind effect that I would not be surprised if properly train people can induce breast growth by volition-induction. Having said this, I would said I would like to see the data from a well controlled experiment. But since AG does not have access to all the lab stuff, all we can hope is that he can have a mammography in a year to demonstrate his "mesmeristic" prodigy.

After all, much of the prayer and miracles sometimes boil down to plain mind over matter effects, so why not "miracle boobies."

Hey, AG, I a sure you can make some money over the internet by leading "virtual sessions to increase breast size."  You can even have a slogan: "I am not just the provider but a costumer too."   :angel:

Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: Annah on October 02, 2012, 01:49:58 PM
Unconscious refers to whether or not a being is 'aware', and thoughts, being objects of consciousness, cannot be properly said to be aware. It's similarly redundant to call a stone 'unconscious' since it has no consciousness to be turned on or off.

The subconscious is a strata of consciousness - ie it is below our consciousness. Thus, we may be unconscious of thoughts that are in our subconscious, but it's grammatically incorrect to describe a thought as being unconscious.

So, I don't agree with everything Freud taught. I do believe in a difference between unconscious and subconscious
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: Incarnadine on October 02, 2012, 02:21:27 PM
Quote from: SageFox on October 01, 2012, 06:14:24 PM
Science has thousands of documented cases of the mind influencing and controlling the body.  It's called a psycho-somatic response.  The simplest example of this that most people can relate to is this:  have you ever called into work or school sick in order to just take the day off for personal reasons and through the course of working yourself up to act and sound sick on the phone you actually end up feeling like crap?  The body believes what the mind tells it - to a degree.

Athletes improve their skills through mental imagery and MRI tests show the same neural development and growth through imagining practice as it does through actual physical practice.

I've read numerous books on related topics as the subject of "human potential" is a hobby of mine.

Self-hypnosis can indeed influence the body - within certain limits.

I wonder if anyone has done a study on whether or not there may be a connection between trans* and psycho-somatism.  Anyone know?
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: Amazon D on October 02, 2012, 04:13:05 PM
hey lets not waste a good thread title!

Lets make this "what is the weirdest thing you have ever done"   thread

Ok let me go second since the OP shared theirs.

ok ok let me think now... there are too many weird things i have done.. actually everything i do is weird so who wants to go next?

Yea i know i am weird  ;D
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: Padma on October 02, 2012, 04:35:59 PM
There's documented evidence of hypnotherapy (in a British hospital, in the 80's I think it was - and in the US in the 50's) curing cases of congenital ichthyosis, in which vestigial sweat glands became non-vestigial. I'm just citing this as an example of mind-body intertwinedness in action.
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: Incarnadine on October 02, 2012, 08:03:08 PM
Eaten an 8-inch nightcrawler.  Quite possibly the most disgusting thing I've ever tasted.
Title: Re: The WEIRDEST thing I've ever done
Post by: RedFox on October 02, 2012, 11:28:53 PM
I remember reading about something related to this years ago.  In multiple personality disorders one personality can have physical traits that are different from the other personalities: ie eye color, moles, minor phsyical disabilities, etc.  The mind controls most of the functions of the body (at the autonomic level) and there is still much we don't know about how it works.