I've run into a sudden interest for a satchel/messenger type bag. I think it'd be useful at times and I think it's awesome because it's made of leather. My sisters and SO agree that it's girly and that they do not approve. People who know me say many things like it's okay, it can work, use whatever you want it's your life (all girls) and then a guy who is like giving everyone a hard time (he's a funny guy) said he wouldn't care if I had a "man purse". Another guy said a camera bag (he's a photographer) and the other two guys who said they use something are both gay.
I even asked around here in the chat and it was agreed that it's something that isn't very manly. What the hell? I care too much about general opinion, not necessarily looking gay, but the hard time I'll get until it gets old for them and the hard time I might get from anyone else.
I've never thought of - or seen - the Chrome/Timbuk2 Messenger bags as effeminate (unless you got yours in hot pink with lavender trim)
I have an old leather back-pack that I used to haul around everywhere... I always thought it was the mostdamnmasculineindianajonesthing that ever existed...
I still love it!
(but dang if I haven't seen it in a while... :-\)
Go for it!
At least where I live, it would seem "girly". I don't recall seeing men carry things like that. They might have a back pack like thing if they have a ton of stuff?
I don't think there's anything girly about carrying a bag, it just depends on the bag. A leather satchel or messenger bag sounds just fine.
My (straight) boyfriend carries this bag pretty much everywhere:
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and it doesn't look effeminate at all on him. (That's not him in the picture I don't think, but it looks a heck of a lot like him. xD) He carries a bag more than I do, and still looks way more masculine than me.
Quote from: tekla on October 16, 2012, 10:33:42 AM
I've never thought of - or seen - the Chrome/Timbuk2 Messenger bags as effeminate (unless you got yours in hot pink with lavender trim)
I was going to suggest these too. I carry a Chrome bag and I highly recommend them. They're rather expensive, but rugged and sturdy, and very androgynous leaning toward masculine.
If you haven't had top surgery, though, you might want to avoid straps that cut across your chest; it can accentuate whatever curves you have. Chrome bags sit pretty high on your chest and I remember mine actually helping flatten me while I was binding; however, messenger bags that hang down further can have straps that sit right in the middle of your chest and emphasize it.
The only reson I don't carry a satchel/messenger bag, is that I'm clumsy (will get straps caught on stuff, knock things over etc), and that I need to mind my back. I see plenty of guys with them, and never thought of it as effeminate in any way.
Quote from: Cain on October 16, 2012, 12:19:01 PM
I don't think there's anything girly about carrying a bag, it just depends on the bag. A leather satchel or messenger bag sounds just fine.
My (straight) boyfriend carries this bag pretty much everywhere:
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and it doesn't look effeminate at all on him. (That's not him in the picture I don't think, but it looks a heck of a lot like him. xD) He carries a bag more than I do, and still looks way more masculine than me.
I was going to suggest these too. I carry a Chrome bag and I highly recommend them. They're rather expensive, but rugged and sturdy, and very androgynous leaning toward masculine.
If you haven't had top surgery, though, you might want to avoid straps that cut across your chest; it can accentuate whatever curves you have. Chrome bags sit pretty high on your chest and I remember mine actually helping flatten me while I was binding; however, messenger bags that hang down further can have straps that sit right in the middle of your chest and emphasize it.
What kind of bag is this one?
Quote from: Cain on October 16, 2012, 12:19:01 PM
I don't think there's anything girly about carrying a bag, it just depends on the bag. A leather satchel or messenger bag sounds just fine.
My (straight) boyfriend carries this bag pretty much everywhere:
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and it doesn't look effeminate at all on him.
I would call that a back pack look. And you are right, that doesn't look fem at all.
bags like these do look fem
http://www.wired.com/reviews/2009/08/pr_messengerbags/ (http://www.wired.com/reviews/2009/08/pr_messengerbags/)
so it depends on the style.
I was just thinking about this yesterday! Still in guy-mode but I would like a unisex bag that is just large enough for a netbook. I have seen some very simple messenger-style bags worn equally by men and women of all stripes and I think this would be my style when presenting either way. Use of these in Toronto is widespread enough that I don't think anyone would question it on me.
Quote from: Cyndigurl45 on October 16, 2012, 12:33:32 PM
What kind of bag is this one?
I've seen similar messenger bags, and similar backpacks. I guess it's kind of a hybrid. :P This specific bag came with a collector's-edition video game.
I've had two Timbuk2 bags now for over 12 years (one the everyday, the other 'the weekender'). I ride my bike everywhere, and use them day in and day out. And I'm absolutely brutal on everything I own (I trashed a MillSpec phone in 5 years, made to survive combat, but not Kat) and they are both in excellent shape. I really am loathe to recommend anything ever, but I have to say that they were worth every penny and performed well above expectations.
And they are both black/gray, so pretty butch.
And you can get them made to order in a bunch of sizes, with different internal stuff, (including padded computer sleeves) and colors/fabrics/textures.
http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/custom (http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/custom)
Thanks everyone.
Yeah, those are backpacks and they are pretty much the option that I was provided by those who oppposed the messenger/satchel bag.
I would like to go on without someone calling my bag a murse, man bag, man purse. It's a bag. Period.
I think this is where I should show everyone the exact bag I want and the only thing I plan on getting. I appreciate the references to these other bags, but once I saw this one I knew that I was going to have as soon as I had the money saved up.
Website view: http://www.saddlebackleather.com/Classic-Satchel?sc=8&category=1288 (http://www.saddlebackleather.com/Classic-Satchel?sc=8&category=1288)
Picture of bag in color I want from someone else: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4072/4389800392_b04ed3711d.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4072/4389800392_b04ed3711d.jpg)
The website has a video and you can see how it sits when it's worn within the first 10 seconds. I'm looking into a medium (one he's wearing) or the large (the light colored one).
Hmmm, I think the difference is that guys usually go out carrying bags for a specific reason for where they're going?
Like backpacks for school or for going hiking or something. Or briefcases for work or laptop bags when they're bringing their laptop somewhere etc.
So I think the question is more about where you want to bring your bag than whether you have a bag or not. The bag you posted is good for businessy things probably. At least it would look weird if you walked around with that bag in a hoodie and headphones or something lol.
Outside of work and sports things most guys seem to carry mostly backpacks when they go somewhere and they need to bring a lot of stuff. Other than that they put it all in their pockets! Lol I don't understand that at all though.
I've been using this one for around five years:
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The strap is set so that it falls at hip level, accquiring a blue tint after years of using it with jeans. When I bought it I was incredibly worried about it being "girly", or whatever. The first thing I was called when I showed it was "pijo" (fashion snob?). Looks like Privata was a "pijo" during the eighties, so I had no clue. The first thing I was told at work was "Cool bag, bro". The form is kinda similar to the one Indy carries in the movies (which you can get from Whatprizeglory).
I rarely leave home without it, the only things I put in my pockets are the keys and wallet. I've been considering swapping it for a messenger bag, or something similar where I can fit a DSLR camera.
PS: Notice the lapel pin? A small way of saying "I don't give a sh*t about what people think anymore".
PS2: The only backpack I use is the one for the camera, when I need to move with the complete equipment. They make me sweat a bit too much.
I like the one you picked. Looks very lawyer or academic.
Thanks Tekla.
As for use, I just want it for whatever. I would mainly use it for school and work since those are the only places I ever take more than a wallet and my keys. I would also be the type to be in jeans, a T-shirt, and a hoodie while using this bag.
I live in Orange County, CA, which is conservative, but it's close enough to Los Angeles haha I don't think things like this raise brows here in CA, but I think it can lump you right into the "gay"/"metro" category.
Well, considering that briefcases are glorified purses and that I carry a backpack, just a very efficient purse, everywhere... I'd say no. A bag doesn't make a guy gay. A guy being turned on by only other guys makes him gay. :P
As for effeminate. Let's see.... Every businessman with a PERFECTLY GROOMED face//hair, clean nails, a pressed//fashionable suit, and a briefcase (basically a shiny and hard purse)... you tell me. ::)
I love the way you think, DianaP. If only the world would break it down like that. :D
Well, I appreciate the sentiment. I just really don't like these girly men society is raising today. Is it so wrong that I just want my men to be men? (I know it's ironic coming from someone like me, but I don't care :P)
Also, just call me Diana. The P was only added because Diana was already taken. :laugh:
Nope. I use a messenger or shoulder bag pretty much all the time since I walk everywhere. Besides, in Japan the men here carry fanny packs strapped across their chests. And I have seen plenty of 20-somethings with some designer purse - couldn't tell you which one, since I know nothing about designers stuff, just that it looked like the kind of thing that would cost about million dollars because it had a letter on it or something.
As long as you aren't carrying a bright pink monster handbag like my Aunt does, you should be fine. Messenger bags and shoulder bags are pretty common among everyone.
Quote from: DianaP on October 16, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
Well, I appreciate the sentiment. I just really don't like these girly men society is raising today. Is it so wrong that I just want my men to be men? (I know it's ironic coming from someone like me, but I don't care :P)
I work in customer service. I wish men would NOT be men because they keep treating me like sh*t!
My briefcase is heavy enough to be a lethal weapon when fully loaded. Not femmy in the least.
Arch, that's a briefcase though. Those are obviously designated to the male category for such reasons :P
Ayden, that's in Japan. The whole effeminate look is highly prominent among Japanese men and fashion is another thing prominent in the cities there.
I still appreciate you two saying that it would be fine, so thank you :)
Everyone can keep on adding their opinions, as this would generally be interesting, but I feel that I'm ready to set aside my worries and the negative opinions of others. I'm totally buying this as a gift to myself for my 21st birthday this coming Monday ;)
Men in the past carried bags. Remember the post Civil War history of the profiteers who went south to make a profit off of the defeated Confederate citizens? Carpetbaggers.
I had a older fellow in my shop that worked on the telephone lines in the 50's and 60's. He had some of his old gear in the shop. He was sick one day when a crew of managers came in and was cleaning out "unnecessary" stuff out of our benches. Well, one of the young anorexic clerks went back to see something else and came across a nicely preserved leather bag on that pile and went into hysterical laughter.
That bag looked like on the outside like something leather that Gucci and Armani would make. It was and old gear bag the linemen used and it had pockets inside for tools. It was those old gear bags that the fashion designers used to start the trend for women having them. Leather was replaced with ballistic nylon for the gear bags.
Joelene
Well you could take the totally LA approach and hire a personal assistant to carry it all for you. Of course that does not solve the "gay" or "effeminate" problem as all personal assistants in LA are either flaming or female.
don't.
Jesus.
I want to wear andro clothing and cut my hair dyke short and get my whole body inked but I can't.
I'm trans, I don't want anything to make me stand out.
Guy with a bag = will definitely stand out (at least where I'm at in Texas)
How about good ole belt (fanny) packs? I used to use them for day long walks. They do everything a purse will do but say nothing feminine.
I call them a androgyn purse.
Quote from: Joann on October 17, 2012, 08:48:50 AM
How about good ole belt (fanny) packs? I used to use them for day long walks. They do everything a purse will do but say nothing feminine.
I call them a androgyn purse.
I call them "tourist identification system". Fanny packs are a crime against fashion. Never, ever again. I have seen people walking with what looked like Batman's utility belt. Imagine a fanny pack with aditional holders for cans, camera.... Everything built into the packs. More like Batman, it was like seeing Duffman.
Yeah, fanny packs are for tourists, old people, shop vendors, security positions, etc. They're specific to things.
As for standing out, I probably won't. Not in a bad way anyhow. I work at the happiest place on earth, which is already considered gay enough already :P Plus, I live in good ol' blue California. I'll probably stand out though once I get my tattoo sleeves.
Quote from: Wolf Man on October 17, 2012, 01:29:50 AM
Ayden, that's in Japan. The whole effeminate look is highly prominent among Japanese men and fashion is another thing prominent in the cities there.
I still appreciate you two saying that it would be fine, so thank you :)
Everyone can keep on adding their opinions, as this would generally be interesting, but I feel that I'm ready to set aside my worries and the negative opinions of others. I'm totally buying this as a gift to myself for my 21st birthday this coming Monday ;)
Yep. But, I am from Alaska, and guys do the same thing there. I was saying no one in the states would bat an eyelash at a messenger bag - it isn't a fanny pack.
I was also making the point that "effeminate" depends on where you live. Texas men are considered effeminate by some Alaskans, and American men are considered effeminate in certain parts of the world. If you want the bag, just get it. Who cares? :laugh:
Edit: Also, since apparently everyone assumes that Japanese men are "girly". It is actually not as common here as most people think. Most of the men wear suits or western male fashion. The media portrayal of men here =/= the actuality. Just like the idea that all Japanese women are sweet and adorable or how Japanese folks assume that all American men are Brad Pitt and all American women are loose.
very very very gay and uber effeminate. No self respecting red blooded American Dude would be caught dead carrying a "bag"
Quote from: peky on October 17, 2012, 05:59:04 PM
very very very gay and uber effeminate. No self respecting red blooded American Dude would be caught dead carrying a "bag"
Really? My Dad is a straight Republican Christian from the south who retired from the military. He carries a messenger bag everywhere. Pretty sure my father is a self respecting red blooded American dude. Its a matter of practicality.
Quote from: peky on October 17, 2012, 05:59:04 PM
very very very gay and uber effeminate. No self respecting red blooded American Dude would be caught dead carrying a "bag"
Um, maybe they're so secure with their masculinity that they're not afraid to use bags. :laugh:
Ok, on a more serious note, I really don't like how "gay" has become synonymous with "weird", "girly" or "lame" these days. It seriously pisses me off. So, once again, a bag isn't gay.
THIS IS GAY\/\/\/
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or this
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Other acceptable definitions include "Happy" or "Colorful". Thank you, handy dandy pocket dictionary.
When I used "gay" here, I literally meant "Do bags make me fall into the homosexual category?" I mean gay as in gay. Not gay as is lame or girly. Though you could argue girly since it's a stereotype for gay men to be girly. That's totally something else though, so let's not.
I swear that some days when I'm reading this stuff in here I have to check the calender to make sure we haven't somehow slipped back in time 50 years or so.
Yeesh, I see lots of people - men and women, gay or not - using some sort of 'personal organizing system' - be it a 'messenger type bag', a satchel, a brief case with a strap, or some sort of backpack. People here - a modern, urban Cosmopolitan environment - just have too much stuff to lug around with them, particularly if they are commuting in a way that not personally waging war on the planet. So if your on a bike, mass transit, bus, light rail, train, or just walking your going to need some survival stuff be it bike gear (gloves, riding clothes assuming your work does not want to to show up physically stinking) or mass transit stuff like MP3 players and books. Everyone has a phone, many have some sort of pad/laptop, even those of us who try to avoid dragging computers and pads, and chords have a notebook, or nice portfolio (I kinda like using my non-electric pad and pen, it scares people, though I'm not sure why - perhaps its me). Only a fool goes anywhere in the Bay Area without another layer because the weather changes according to geographic location and the hour, it used to be just the women who wore trainers on their way to and from the job, and have heels for business hours, but I see lots of guys doing it these days too (but not heels, yeesh), perhaps they are biking or walking. Other guys - real guys, manly macho men doing manly things that make them smell bad at the end of the day - carry their work boots - I know I do. Because after walking the 25+ miles I cover during an average/routine show (yes, we've put a ped on me) that lasts 12-18 hours I sure as hell want to get those heavy (high, leather,steel-toed and all) things off my feet and slip into my trainers. And hey, if you don't like it, or think its somehow effeminate (hysterical considering I'm most likely wearing pink lace underwear) I'll just whack you up side of the head with one. Or just let those boots get close enough to you that the smell alone will kill you.
And I don't know about Texass (and neither does anyone else in this country either), but I've never seen bike messenger bags as "gay" or "effeminate" - and I don't see the real highly gay people, or the fems wearing them. Hell damn few girls wear them because the strap doesn't quite work well with boobies (so I'm told). They are pretty much a male fashion accessory, and one highly preferred by the bike/bus people (because Buckminster Fuller was right about form following function).
The one that WolfMan is getting has young lawyer/college prof (maybe screenwriter) written all over it (and all over it's price tag too). I doubt that anyone in LA is going to find it either "gay" or "effeminate".
And a fanny pack? Really? Unless your jogging along the coast or skiing up in the Sierras I can't think of any appropriate use for them in this state unless you're trying to pretend you're from Ohio or something.
Oh, by the way... self respecting red blooded American Dudes don't give a stale turd in a toilet about what anyone else thinks about them, that's the 'self-respecting' part.
I just really don't like these girly men society is raising today
Maybe you might be more comfortable in a different culture. I hear Somalia is real butch. Lots of guns, almost as many as Texas. And 'society' ain't doing nothing, people make choices. You can like their choices, dislike their choices, or be apathetic as all get out (my personal choice) about them - pretty much makes no difference. Opinions about society and 50 cents can get you a phone call, if you can find a pay phone anymore.
I mean, really, what exactly bothers you? Not enough Hell's Angels, gangbangers and violent felons about these days? Is football in jeopardy because all the guys have gone soft and now want to play canasta instead? Are all the bars and brothels closing? Not enough Harley-Davidsons, and mid-life crisis sports cars being sold? While it might be true that violent crime is dropping, its' because today's modern now a go-go man is into the white collar crime wave - all the loot and none of that pesky jail time.
Quote from: DianaP on October 16, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
Well, I appreciate the sentiment. I just really don't like these girly men society is raising today. Is it so wrong that I just want my men to be men?
What's wrong is that you feel it's your place to tell men - or anyone - how to act. I think I'm going to carry a fruity little handbag with me tomorrow. I know you won't really care but it makes me feel better to think that I'm being spiteful :)
I wish I could find a little excerpt I read by an ancient Roman author about "the girly men society is raising today." He was talking about guys removing their body hair and wearing sheer togas as if it was something that was in any way very important.
Are all bags for men considered gay or effeminate?
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Does this guy look effeminate?
No, he looks 'postal' which is synonymous with 'deranged killer opens fire with automatic weapons at work.'
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Yes I've got your mail!!! And my hemorrhoids are bothering me!!!
What's it to you!?!?!?
Sorry, I'm terrible :laugh: >:-) :laugh:
Today I decided to observe the people around me in the metro, instead of reading Dracula on my Kindle or playing Ace Attorney. Most of the business suit dudes were carrying something like this:
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In the brightest neon colors. Yup, it's a lunchbox. So it seems like people don't care anymore about the looks. Would it look so bad in the U.S.?
For the same purpose, I have to carry this 3 out of five work days:
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People will ask me If I am going to an event or something like that, thinking it is the camera bag...
Quote from: tekla on October 17, 2012, 11:34:34 PM
I just really don't like these girly men society is raising today
Maybe you might be more comfortable in a different culture. I hear Somalia is real butch. Lots of guns, almost as many as Texas. And 'society' ain't doing nothing, people make choices. You can like their choices, dislike their choices, or be apathetic as all get out (my personal choice) about them - pretty much makes no difference. Opinions about society and 50 cents can get you a phone call, if you can find a pay phone anymore.
I mean, really, what exactly bothers you? Not enough Hell's Angels, gangbangers and violent felons about these days? Is football in jeopardy because all the guys have gone soft and now want to play canasta instead? Are all the bars and brothels closing? Not enough Harley-Davidsons, and mid-life crisis sports cars being sold? While it might be true that violent crime is dropping, its' because today's modern now a go-go man is into the white collar crime wave - all the loot and none of that pesky jail time.
Quote from: Anteros on October 17, 2012, 11:43:40 PM
What's wrong is that you feel it's your place to tell men - or anyone - how to act. I think I'm going to carry a fruity little handbag with me tomorrow. I know you won't really care but it makes me feel better to think that I'm being spiteful :)
Ok, please don't take my comment too seriously, people. I don't care to tell people how to act, and I don't consider manly to mean running around toting guns and sports cars (What planet do you live on?). That sounds more savage//primitive to me. I just mean that I don't like those guys who have to have Purell with them everywhere they go and who get mani-pedis every week.
I just don't associate with these sorts of people. I don't tell anyone how to act. Except this--> Calm down.
Quote from: tekla on October 17, 2012, 11:34:34 PM
And a fanny pack? Really? Unless your jogging along the coast or skiing up in the Sierras I can't think of any appropriate use for them in this state unless you're trying to pretend you're from Ohio or something.
Ok...Ok.. screw the fanny packs. Just my piratical side coming out. But still i see woman ( from Ohio) struggle with purses weighing in at 15lbs+. I think their a pain in the neck/ shoulder and then you have one less hand to use. Hence the practicality of a bag that straps to your hip. Start a fashion trend...
Ok, I'll settle this. The ultimate blend of practicality and manliness. Military backpacks.
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:P
Quote from: DianaP on October 18, 2012, 03:08:34 PM
Ok, I'll settle this. The ultimate blend of practicality and manliness. Military backpacks.
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:P
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I'm sure my wife could fill it.
Maybe it depends on where your from? In seems bags & backpacks are common place theses days. People take them to school, work, shopping, ect. As far as it going from a backpack to "man purse" I think depends on the style. Messenger bags & backpacks should be fine. I would stay away from current/new military/tactical stuff, it can make you look like a "mall ninja". Older military stuff from WWll usually is kinda considered stylish/cool.
Also, your activity at hand can make a difference. If your going out to a club or a dinner party and your carrying a bag it may look "off".
Good luck......
Dani
Quote from: Jamie D on October 17, 2012, 11:46:17 PM
Are all bags for men considered gay or effeminate?
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Does this guy look effeminate?
He looks like a "poster boy" for the boyscouts pedophiles
Quote from: V M on October 18, 2012, 12:35:58 AM
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Yes I've got your mail!!! And my hemorrhoids are bothering me!!!
What's it to you!?!?!?
ROFLMAO ;D
On topic:
I use a messenger bag daily as I need to carry around a laptop and SLR to work. The girls at work have bag jealousy because it's noice...
http://www.onabags.com/store/messengers-and-backpacks/the-union-street.html (http://www.onabags.com/store/messengers-and-backpacks/the-union-street.html)
Just note that if you're interested in this one, the velcro strap for the laptop will wear the divider down over time. I'm thinking of sewing a velcro pad into place to help the divider last longer. I do joke about it and call it my man-bag, but I've had no one call me gay or effeminate.
I never thought of this as girlish, but it depends on where you live.
Quote from: luna nyan on October 24, 2012, 06:29:44 AM
ROFLMAO ;D
On topic:
I use a messenger bag daily as I need to carry around a laptop and SLR to work. The girls at work have bag jealousy because it's noice...
http://www.onabags.com/store/messengers-and-backpacks/the-union-street.html (http://www.onabags.com/store/messengers-and-backpacks/the-union-street.html)
Just note that if you're interested in this one, the velcro strap for the laptop will wear the divider down over time. I'm thinking of sewing a velcro pad into place to help the divider last longer. I do joke about it and call it my man-bag, but I've had no one call me gay or effeminate.
I have owned two purses through my lifetime, and they both looked similar to this one, just more... "pursish" in size. XD I only got them because they were the least girly handbags I could find that were still actually handbags, which I had use for.
Quote from: John Smith on October 24, 2012, 10:48:36 AM
I have owned two purses through my lifetime, and they both looked similar to this one, just more... "pursish" in size. XD I only got them because they were the least girly handbags I could find that were still actually handbags, which I had use for.
*lol* People have said that I look young for my age, especially since I started HRT. I didn't want to use a backpack because I looked too much like a university student when I use one, so that's why I switched to a messenger style bag.
Due to the hyper-masculine environment I work in, I try my best not to do anything else (on top of HRT, longish hair, laser hair removal) to look any more fem than I am, before I drop the bomb on everyone.
My team travels around the world and I outfit them in 5.11 clothing and 5.11/Maxpedition bags for a professional "Spec-Ops" look. I have had the following bag for over a year and it is in as good of condition now as when I bought it and it has seen a lot of travel. It kinda works out as my purse and computer bag. They have a lot of other really nice stuff as well. A lot of the Maxpedition and 5.11 gear is a bit "pricey" but I save money paying $50 for a shirt or pair of pants for my team becasue they last 5x longer than a $20 equivalent and the guys and other girl on the team (another member from this board) look sharp and professional.
http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/AGGRESSOR-TACTICAL-ATTACHE-13p779.htm (http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/AGGRESSOR-TACTICAL-ATTACHE-13p779.htm)
http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/catalog/0612k_2_detail.jpg (http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/catalog/0612k_2_detail.jpg)
Quote from: Wolf Man on October 16, 2012, 02:13:26 PM
I think this is where I should show everyone the exact bag I want and the only thing I plan on getting. I appreciate the references to these other bags, but once I saw this one I knew that I was going to have as soon as I had the money saved up.
That bag you posted reminds me of this guy:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.allmoviephoto.com%2F2008_Indiana_Jones_and_the_Kingdom_of_the_Crystal_Skull%2F2008_indiana_jones_4_036.jpg&hash=6d461b2e066a948b6c49b95fa14264f68aa1b0d1)
I haven't heard anyone say he seems gay or effeminate.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.maxpedition.com%2Fstore%2Fpc%2Fcatalog%2F0612k_2_detail.jpg&hash=64d5ba9fa3907c48bc3b889a742416cb71f44451)
Tactical picnic basket :D
I would take that on maneuvers.
I'd avoid anything that looked to SWATish, or military, unless you're in a combat zone. It for year round, not just Halloween, so I think he should stick with the leather one, that looks big city all the time. It's more serious, not costume. Just like I'll stick with the Timbuk2 stuff, it's designed for exactly what I use it for, so it not only makes sense, it looks sensible, serious even when I'm riding.
Quote from: V M on October 29, 2012, 09:28:14 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.maxpedition.com%2Fstore%2Fpc%2Fcatalog%2F0612k_2_detail.jpg&hash=64d5ba9fa3907c48bc3b889a742416cb71f44451)
Tactical picnic basket :D
That's my bag! lol I travel a lot and it has really come in handy. There are hidden pockets all over it and I think it took me a month or two to find them all. I can carry two laptop along with lots of other stuff when I have to.
Heheh, I know, I was just being silly :) It looks like it would be handy to carry a lot of gear
That is one crazy bag. If I need that much space, I could maybe dig on it.
I'm going to get this bag instead, by the way. I like the fact that it's twice as deep as my last option and it even looks a little better.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.saddlebackleather.com%2FProducts%2FBusiness-Bags%2FCLC-BC%2FCLC-BC-LG-DCB-PS-SLC01Br1C-1900.jpg&hash=23c42d27aef2540e37ce61c5cba9b544664804e9) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.saddlebackleather.com%2FProducts%2FBusiness-Bags%2FCLC-BC%2FCLC-BC-LG-DCB-PS-SLC02Br1C-1900.jpg&hash=8fc268ae13f3cc135ea884fcf74b8d0bfa8650b9)
It will look excellent after it gets worn in a bit.
That's all I can keep thinking about ;D
Probably only if they are those PVC/shiny bags.. which not to say all straight men don't like them, but society's pressure regarding those bags is too much that it discourages them from carrying them
A messenger bag is by no means "gay"...
Just type "Messenger bag" on Google image and try to find one that is definitely girly, there are virtually none, well except if it's freakin pink.