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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Post operative life => Topic started by: tonia on December 03, 2012, 05:31:41 AM

Title: Is this true?
Post by: tonia on December 03, 2012, 05:31:41 AM
Hello everyone, I'm two months post op and I red this here http://annierichards.com/options.htm (http://annierichards.com/options.htm)

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Regardless of the above, it does appear that after a few years the method of creating the neovagina is relatively unimportant since the functional reaction patterns become identical, including behaviour during arousal and orgasm, as well as lubrication.  For example, in the months and years after a penile inversion, the skin graft loses all of its skin characteristics and adapts to its new environment, taking on the exact characteristics of a normal vagina - including normal vaginal PH levels, complete loss of hair, complete loss of pigment, complete loss of sweat glands, and normal vaginal epithelial glycogen levels.  The cells actually alter in type, and it is eventually impossible to distinguish between cells collected from the vaginal smear of a genetic woman, and that of a long time (10 or 20 years) post-operative transsexual woman.   Also lubrication is rarely a long term problem with a neovagina, while on average it does take slightly longer than with a "natural" vagina, some neovaginas lubricate at least as well and as quickly.
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Is this true? I had simple penile inversion.
Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: Flan on December 03, 2012, 05:41:16 AM
Short version: no.

Less short version: the bacteria and anatomy of inverted tissues will never match vaginal mucosa no matter how thin it's stretched by way of dilation. There have been attempts to imitate this through urethral mucosa grafts but that covers only part of the vaginal vault. There is another way using grafts from the inside of the mouth but none of the well known reassignment surgeons use it.

http://journals.lww.com/annalsplasticsurgery/Abstract/2007/11000/Do_Histologic_Changes_in_the_Skin_Lined_Neovagina.13.aspx (http://journals.lww.com/annalsplasticsurgery/Abstract/2007/11000/Do_Histologic_Changes_in_the_Skin_Lined_Neovagina.13.aspx)
Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: Zumbagirl on December 05, 2012, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: tonia on December 03, 2012, 05:31:41 AM
Hello everyone, I'm two months post op and I red this here http://annierichards.com/options.htm (http://annierichards.com/options.htm)

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Regardless of the above, it does appear that after a few years the method of creating the neovagina is relatively unimportant since the functional reaction patterns become identical, including behaviour during arousal and orgasm, as well as lubrication.  For example, in the months and years after a penile inversion, the skin graft loses all of its skin characteristics and adapts to its new environment, taking on the exact characteristics of a normal vagina - including normal vaginal PH levels, complete loss of hair, complete loss of pigment, complete loss of sweat glands, and normal vaginal epithelial glycogen levels.  The cells actually alter in type, and it is eventually impossible to distinguish between cells collected from the vaginal smear of a genetic woman, and that of a long time (10 or 20 years) post-operative transsexual woman.   Also lubrication is rarely a long term problem with a neovagina, while on average it does take slightly longer than with a "natural" vagina, some neovaginas lubricate at least as well and as quickly.
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Is this true? I had simple penile inversion.


That sounds pretty accurate to me, but it takes quite some time after surgery has been my experience. Yes it gets wet but not like a genetic female but it can do it pretty quickly for certain. I don't take chances though with natural lube because I don't think there is enough of it.