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Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: Casey on May 08, 2007, 03:40:15 PM

Title: Gender pronoun preference in profiles
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2007, 03:40:15 PM
Most of us have a set of pronouns we prefer others to use when referring to us. If we were TS things would be pretty simple. But being androgynes, there are a number of pronouns we can choose from. I like to respect the choice someone else has made but I don't always remember who likes what. And good luck searching through older posts for the one or two times someone has mentioned their preference.

I was thinking we could use one of the profile slots for this. Most of us aren't using a custom title, so that might be a good place to put it. For those who are comfortable with two sets of pronouns or have a preferred set and an "Ok too" set, you could seperate them with a comma. Since we mostly use the subject and object forms, I think if we list those that should be good.

___________ (subject) would give you the shirt off of ___________ (object) back.

I'll list the ones I'm familiar with below. But just for some examples, I would put "sie-hir" to show that I prefer the one set of pronouns, while someone else might put "zie-zir, she-her" to show they prefer that gender neutral set but they're also OK with feminine pronouns.

Does anybody else think this is a good idea or is it not worth it?

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The pronouns I know of are (but please list any others you use):
he-his
she-her
sie-hir
zie-zir
ey-eir
Name-Name's (for those who don't like pronouns)
Title: Re: Gender pronoun preference in profiles
Post by: Doc on May 08, 2007, 04:22:13 PM
Pronouns. Subject, object, possessive adjective, possessive noun, reflexive.

Male pronouns:  he,him,his,his,himself
Female pronouns: she,her,her,hers,herself
neuter pronouns: it,it,its,its,itself,
'either' pronouns: s/he,him/her,his/her,his/hers,(him/her)self
Spivak pronouns: e,em,eir,eirs,emself
'splat' pronouns: *e,h*,h*,h*s,h*self
plural pronouns: they,them,their,theirs,themselves

Spivak is the name of some mathematician who invented the Spivak pronoun set. I used to know an intersexed person who insisted on everybody referring to em with Spivak pronouns. E annoyed almost everybody with eir pronoun-policing, though it did become kinda fun when you got used to it. There are a whole bunch of neutral and pronouncable pronoun sets that very much resemble the Spivak set, you listed about every one I've heard.
Title: Re: Gender pronoun preference in profiles
Post by: Emerald on May 09, 2007, 12:33:46 AM

A large list of gender neutral pronouns can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronouns

-Emerald  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Gender pronoun preference in profiles
Post by: Kendall on May 09, 2007, 01:16:57 AM
Good Idea. Added mine that I prefer to my custome title in profile.
Title: Re: Gender pronoun preference in profiles
Post by: Steph on May 09, 2007, 07:51:54 AM
You may also want to refer to our article in our Wiki found here:

https://www.susans.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun

Steph
Title: Re: Gender pronoun preference in profiles
Post by: Dryad on May 09, 2007, 08:12:52 AM
I'm quite content with people using male and female pronouns interchangeable. I mean; I can't ask from everyone to use a complete new pronoun all the time.. I'd be annoying the crap out of everyone, and that really wouldn't work for getting acceptance. At the moment, my friends see me kind of like a lesbian male or something along those lines... Well, that works for me. After all; it's not about the plumbing; it's about who I am, not what I am.
Title: Re: Gender pronoun preference in profiles
Post by: Mia and Marq on May 31, 2007, 10:19:03 AM
Since I myself constantly and without regard for continuity change whether I use 'I', 'we', 'he', 'she' when talking about myself, don't hold anyone to any standards when talking to or of me. I only get offended when people start trying to exclude me from one gender or the other.

Summary: Anything goes.

Title: Re: Gender pronoun preference in profiles
Post by: ChildOfTheLight on May 31, 2007, 07:50:12 PM
I like my custom title, so I put my pronouns in my signature.