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Hello y'all,

I have been looking at threads on google and here and there, and have found very few threads exclusively on people transitioning in their 40's. I have found threads of people transitioning in their 20's, 30's and even 50's, but oddly they skipped 40's...hmmmm. So I figure after much research and hunting around, with no avail of finding a thread of people transitioning in their 40's, to start one, so here I go...

I started hrt in November, 27, 2012 at the eve of my 44th birthday, and well, I"m technically in my mid-40's and will turn 45 in March 24. I just wanted to know of other people who transitioned and how has it gone for you? I will post here and see where others are at in their transitioning. I was on hrt in my mid-20's for two years on and off, but that was 20 years ago more or less exactly, I had some development but I feel it got reversed to a great extent. My Testosterone levels were on 11/20/2012 524 pg/nl and on 12/12 they went down to 124 pg/nl. My estradoil levels went up from 11/20/2012 of 18.7 to 12/12/2012 of 200.3. So it seems to be working the hrt, and I do have greater sensitivity in my chest area and I have had three crying spells with fights with my girlfriend.


Lucia,
P.S., If somebody else started a thread of people transitiong in their 40's, MTF's, please let me know so I won't reinvent the wheel per se.

Forgot to add, I made up with my girlfriend after the fights, which has become a whole lot easier since I started hrt.

Lucia,

I started just before my 41st birthday and I turn 50 this March 25th. I've only done hrt and some laser to date, but been fulltime for over 6 years. Its had its ups and downs, but overall, I suppose its gone well enough. I lost some friends, but my immediate family accepted it, some quicker than others. I don't have kids and haven't been married since I was 30, so I didn't have any of those complications.

I'm just starting my transition and I turn 40 in March.  Can I assume this 40's club applies to me?  :)

So far things are a mixed bag.  I've come out to nearly all my family and friends and have been accepted though no one seems to believe I'll really follow through with it.  I've got two teenage daughters and two little boys and a spouse that is divorcing me after I came out to her.

Physically... no hormonal changes yet as I don't start HRT until mid-January-ish.  But I'm growing my hair out and have cleaned up my appearance - and have started dressing a bit more feminine - or at least less masculine.  I want the face and body to go with the clothes before I go out in public.

I don't know if there's another thread on transitioners in their 40s.

This is a good thread...I'm in my late 40's, started HRT about 10 months ago, have nice "A" cups already (c'mon, rolling the dice for a "C"...)...feel much better, but also much the same...?

Separated on good terms with the ex, am ready to move on with the divorce. One child accepts me totally, the other 2...not so much.

Work accepts me totally. Came out in May, went FT in June with the legal name change.

Most of my body hair is gone, lasered whiskers 12x, but still shave everyday (I can skip it once in a while, but it's not regular) Razors last much longer now, before was about 4 days, now it's almost 2 weeks/cartridge. (using quattro)

*hugs*

I'm 43 now and have been on HRT for nearly 19 months. So far, I've got AA-cup breasts and people tell me my face looks rounder.

Hi, Lucia,

I'm 44 as of early Dec. and have been on the stuff for a little over 4 months, with dosage increased from the starting regimen 2 weeks ago. I've been pleased with my progress so far in terms of the major indicators. Most importantly, I feel authentic and congruent for the first time in my life and am hopeful about going full-time over the summer, if things continue to progress. I'm sure experiences vary, but the forties are clearly not too late for significant physical and mental feminization.

I have young children who do not yet know the whole story, but who have responded well to the changes so far.

Best,

Jane

I am 43 and I have been on hrt for a little over three months. No great changes, yet except for no more oily skin, regrowth of scalp hair, tiny breasts which poke thru clothes and are hard to hide. Wife goes up and down with this: one moment she hates it,  one moment she is OK with it. She says she misses my rugged facial features and my body and facial hair. She says I used to be handsome and now I have a soft, round feminine face. The loss of hair through laser and electrolysis really makes the difference, I think.

I am not as emotional as others describe themselves but I am way more scattered brained than usual, which my wife attributes to hormones.

My children are little, wonderful and happy.:-)


My hips are definitely wider and people say I am totally different than 6 months ago. On the phone they always think I am a woman which means I am maybe acting differently without noticing

Good luck,
Andrea

Great idea for a thread:).  I'm 49 so I barely make the thread lol, and just starting the process.  1st electrolysis this week, see the endo for the 1st time the end of Jan.  Hopefully starting HRT by Feb.  While I regret not starting the process much earlier in life, my responsibilities are fewer now.  Divorced for several years, kid is grown and on his own, 1st career is finished (retired) preparing for the next one.  Only a couple close people know I'm transitioning (GFriend & Dad both supportive) and the biggest challenge at the moment is dropping the weight/muscle.

I started at 41. I beat my self up every day that I didn't start the day after I turned 18 though!  ::)

@DaniStarr

Judging from your avatar you have had pretty amazing results. :-) What is your secret? :-)

But I know what you mean: I am a late starter myself and I wish I could turn back the clock to my teenage Yeats so that I could start back then...

Love,
Andrea

I turned 41 in July 2012 and started HRT 2 weeks later. I am very pleased with my progress so for. A full B cup breast and no sign of them slowing down because they are so sore I just about cant stand it. And I have a butt now. :D I'm not full time yet but recently I have been getting ma'am'd just about all the time no matter how I'm dressed. My wife said it's because my face looks more female than male now.  :)

Quote from: NotThereYet on January 02, 2013, 01:17:19 PM
@DaniStarr

Judging from your avatar you have had pretty amazing results. :-) What is your secret? :-)

But I know what you mean: I am a late starter myself and I wish I could turn back the clock to my teenage Yeats so that I could start back then...

Love,
Andrea

Sorry, thats not me in my avatar. Its Victoria from Twilight. I should put a disclaimer in there :P

Well im 44 in April. Been on HRT for a month now. I noticed a rapid reduction in body hair growth almost straight away although that which is growing is still male hair...not fine vellus type hair.
Just this week ive noticed major sensitivity behind my nipples so hetes hoping that something is going on there!

Now i need to crack the diet and exercise and do away with this old Rugby player type physique lol!

I hope no one minds a 50+ joining in. I started HRT 5 weeks ago at age 56, am already feeling a lot of sensitivity in the breasts. Last week I had a couple of instances where I started crying and couldn't stop, so I guess the E is working  ;D . Also started electrolysis two months ago.

Z

49.  There's never a "good time" IMHO after you've gotten married if you're still married.

I have had a ton of conflicts.  I was working for a company for a looooong time who finally added gender identity to their EEOC statement last year as I was finally going through therapy, starting HRT and transition.  But, even as they added that to their benefits, the work environment became so bad (overall...not just for me), I was forced to leave and go to another company who does NOT have those protections in place.  This has caused me to suspend HRT until I establish myself there better and get a better feeling for their policies.

Again, it's never easy but if you are determined to do it, you will find your way through the maze.  Many of us have gone/going through the same/similar thing...you will find plenty of people here to support and lean on.   :)

Quote from: Zythyra on January 05, 2013, 06:12:42 PM
I hope no one minds a 50+ joining in. I started HRT 5 weeks ago at age 56, am already feeling a lot of sensitivity in the breasts. Last week I had a couple of instances where I started crying and couldn't stop, so I guess the E is working  ;D . Also started electrolysis two months ago.

Z

You know, it's weird.  My thought process has definitely started changing...I find myself wanting to handle some situations completely different than before....but, I have not had the emotional crying attacks.  I am concerned for myself, as I have been finding it very hard to completely let myself go and cry...real crying...in the past year.  I was actually more prone to cry BEFORE last year.  Weird.   ???

I will be starting when I am 41, so I will let you know how it goes (I turn 41 April)

I'm 42 and really excited about the future.  I can see and feel results, but the road will be long. That's ok.

Good luck to you.

I started HRT in May 2012 and turned 48 in August.  I was on a stating dose for 2 months and then increased the doseage in July.  My bloodwork hs been good and the only problem was slightly low soium at my last doctor's visit that caued me to reduce my spiro a litle bit.  I am on patches for E. I go into more details on all my effects in my blog.

I sarted taking spiro back in March 2012 and had lowered anxiety almost right away.  When we added estrogen my long term depression went away quickly.  Breast growth started right away for me but has been slow and steady and I am now a 36 A.  My butt and hips have gotten bigger and my face has definately become softer and more feminine as has my skin.  The only negative has been weight gain in the last few months and I need to get wih it as far as diet and excesise. HRT has lowered my metabolism and I need to start eating like a fit female.

I went full time on December 21, 2012, 5 days after my wife left me due to my transition.   I had a few emotional incidents with crying before then but her leaving has sent me into a month long tear jerker, I am just starting to come out of it now. 

I have a lot of electrolysis left to go and being full time and having to grow out facial hair sucks.  Take care of this before transition if you have a chance.

Of course I wish I knew I coud do this 30 years ago but I had come to a place in my life where this was not really a choice but I have no regrets and this is the best decision I have ever made. 

I went off my anti-depressants about 2 weeks ago, after being on them 3 years for severe depression (lifelong, but diagnosed 3yrs ago).  I wanted off them about 6 months ago, but my med dr said it wouldn't be good...having btdt before, I stayed on them (I started HRT about 11 months ago)...but this last time I saw her, she wanted to increase my meds, even tho we both agreed I was very, very happy due to the transition and my Maddie...i decided that I would try no meds for a bit...and after the disruption in the first 2-3 days, I haven't felt better *ever*.

Life is awesome...itll be even better after srs, when I can finish saving $$ for it.

Thanks friends...and lovers. You helped make my road a lot better...*hugs* (even if I am nearing 50! LOL) ;) 

I started hrt last summer at age 52. It's just over 6months now and I've started to see some breast growth. My breasts are a little tender but only seem to bother me like when I'm lifting a box or something that rubs against them. I have had a few mood swings at the start but no real crying outbursts, save for tears while watching a few movies. My wierdest thing was my craving for pickles which is probably due to the Spiro. I was fortunate to have low T levels before I started.

LOL...about 4 months after starting Spiro i had a craving for sweet pickles...always liked 'em before, but had to buy a big jar and i ate most of the entire contents....nom nom nom!

Mmm.pickkkkkkkles....*drool* ;)

Did someone mention pickles?!  ;D I'd always liked pickles before, cravings for them have definitely gone up a notch or two since starting HRT!

Mmmmmmmmm, pickles!

Z

Great thread, though i think a few recent replies got eaten with the server issue.

I've been on HRT for 8 days now, and am almost 42. 

I hadn't seen a lot of info around transitioning at this age, so many of the posts are either early or later in life. I think there are some very unique challenges at this age, so curious to hear how it goes for others as well.

Late 40's here and starting HRT again after a 20 year break...well, not entirely a break.  I have a friends that started at the same age I am now and have reached the conclusion that it really does not matter when you choose to start.  Hormones act slower, mannerisms can be a little harder to shift...but when is it actually to late to acknowledge and be YOU?

Can say, shaving is WAY quicker now...thinner leg and arm hair.  Also, maturity has helped me maintain a good and positive focus.  More deliberate, less impulsive and certainly in a better position in terms of job/finance.

Plus, this point in time, while far from perfect, feels like our time.  Mind that I loath using any terms that cause divide, but there is less separation between cis and trans now than any time I can remember.  Being a particualr age in our lives is just a thing.

I'm not actually out yet, but that's part of what gives me confidence. 

While I can't say for sure my employer will be happy with the eventual transition, I've got great experience, and the change won't close doors on what I've already learned. Minds are opening everywhere.

Melissa, the scariest person I have come out to is my boss.  No kidding, stomach doing somersaults just thinking about it.  When the time came, I decided I would not complicate it with psychology or anything like that.  We went to dinner, I explained that my hormones are being/are changing...I am changing and assured him that while I might be more emotional, but I am still able to do my job and am able to connect with my customers as well as ever.

He listened, nodded and said ok.  That was several weeks ago and I am still doing fine.  I have some friends in management that have told me that nothing I am doing is causing anyone any concern that they can detect.  They did tell me I am the first to transition within my company by anything they can uncover.

By no means the knowledge queen in  this, but I do chalk my positive experience up to being confident in myself, knowing my facts and explaining things succinctly with little emotion (displayed anyway).  I have had several years of intent driven deliberation, so I also had the luxury of time.  By 'time', I mean time to figure out the "how" of coming out and the ability to choose the "when" in regards to my employer.

<3

I'm 46, and my first endo appointment is in 18 days, not that I'm counting or anything. I was looking for this sort of information, too... maybe we can keep this thread rolling and report our experiences as time goes by?

Hello all--
I'm heading into my 47th year in a few days and the past year has been in a watershed moment in my life. In the span of the last two weeks I got my court decree, SS, and driver's license all updated. So now, I'm legally female, been on HRT for just over a month, working as a female for over 9 months, and now dealing with domestic issues. I'm happy to say my work environment has been incredibly supportive. I've made many new friends, partly I think because I'm just being true to myself. They see and know that I'm real. People tend to gravitate to individuals who show courage and are honest about themselves. But life isn't that simple. I'm still working on the situation with my spouse. I think we'll be better off apart, but I try to keep myself open. It's important to be honest and transparent about the whole thing. I've done this and endured ridicule, abuse, and near self-destruction (but I learned that staying on 'track' keeps me going). I have a pre-teen and she is elated about the 'new' me. Having a future with my child is what really keeps in going.   :)

Hi All,

I'm 43 and never married, no kids, self employed. I have been dressing for over 10 years but did not get guts to transition. Probably, because of lack on info and support.

I will be glad if anyone faced any major problem in transitioning (physical) can share.

I am worried if I start now I might not transition properly.

Hi, Tina, welcome!

There are quite a few of us in our 50s and 60s, just transitioning now.  Most of us are doing so without any major physical problems, though we don't end up passing quite as well as the younger transitioners.  I am at 6 months on HRT at age 62.  You can see my results so far in my avatar picture.

There is nothing remarkable about transitioning in your 40s.  It is a pretty typical age to discover your true identity and start to do something about it.

Quote from: the_Tina_life on July 14, 2017, 02:26:17 PM
Hi All,

I'm 43 and never married, no kids, self employed. I have been dressing for over 10 years but did not get guts to transition. Probably, because of lack on info and support.

I will be glad if anyone faced any major problem in transitioning (physical) can share.

I am worried if I start now I might not transition properly.

Hi Tina. It is Tina and not Life, right?

Welcome to the site.

Many of us transition later than you as KathyLauren pointed out. I don't have a photo of me up yet but I started therapy at 50, HRT at 51 and hope to go full time this year(maybe before our summer is out-doubtful).

I think the older we are, the more concerned about clots  when on HRT. Although the hormones we have now are hugely improved over when that concern first came up. As stated, many at this age do not have the dramatic results we might like but the clarity of mind was a huge thing for me. I will never go back. The hardest thing I found was accepting it, then telling others(including doctors). I have been lucky and blessed.

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Once again, welcome to Susan's. Look around, ask questions and join in.

With warmth,

Joanna

I am 43....I think.  I have been on HRT for around 10 months, and feel things are moving way to slow at the moment.  My wife however thinks things are moving way to fast.  So far, I feel, that my breasts are not developing, and that I still look like a guy in a dress.  My therapist and some others I have shown the pictures to say I look very feminine.

Hi Tina and welcome!

42 here and enjoying my second puberty. Started herbal HRT 2 years ago and pharma HRT one year ago.

Went from flat chest to 34B bra size. Hoping to make it to C-cup! I'm decently physically fit @ 6'1.

My only family attachment I have is a soon to be 9 year old daughter and she's totally supportive.

I'm much more social now, and more people are attracted to me.
I have more friends now, then I've ever had in my entire life.

I don't think of myself as male anymore. I'm out everywhere but work. When I go into the men's room and I look in the mirror, I see a woman cross-dressing (badly) as a man. So far people at work only see what they wanna see, I guess. 

I'm also the happiest I've ever been. My only regret is not figuring this out sooner.

-Lexi

I'm going to be 44 in a week and a half. I started HRT last year. Still haven't gotten my levels 100% correct, as my estrogen is a little high for my Endos liking.

I love the effects of the hormones, and hopefully, will kick transition into high gear later on this year!

LexiDreamer, life must be complicated living as a woman except for work.  I know during the time I went both ways was the worst time of  my life, never knowing if I passed either way.  Good luck to you hope you can be 100% female soon, you look nice in the picture.

Quote from: mm on July 18, 2017, 01:22:48 PM
LexiDreamer, life must be complicated living as a woman except for work.  I know during the time I went both ways was the worst time of  my life, never knowing if I passed either way.  Good luck to you hope you can be 100% female soon, you look nice in the picture.

Thank you for the compliment!

Living gender fluidly is quite complicated. Personally, it gets harder every day. My only reprieve is that I get to go away often enough and just be myself.
I'm not passing very well as a guy anymore... even when in guy mode I notice I get plenty of second glances, especially from other women. I also notice some married guys staring at me for uncomfortably long times. I'm most surprised that people in the office don't seem to notice or question anything. I keep pushing the envelope more and more. :)

As far as passing as female... I don't really worry too much about it anymore. I'm trans, I like being trans and I'm owning it.
Honestly, I find myself gravitating closer to the "fringe" these days anyhow.
I also like the "people filter" my being transgender provides me with. Interesting people want to talk to me and get to know me... boring people want nothing to do with me. ;)
That being said, I find way more people are attracted to me now, it's a whole new experience.

50 is the last year of one's 40's, right?

Although late and relatively late transition has disadvantages biologically, these are potentially superseded by other advantages.  By 40, most of us have careers in place, and are not necessarily living hand to mouth any more.  Often we have raised children and learned to let them become who they are going to be.  It is prime time to learn to apply that same grace to yourself.

I didn't know that I was going to medically/surgically transition when I was 40.  I only knew that I was transgender, and that I was slowly killing myself by not letting that part of me see the light of day.  Worse, I realized that I would some day die, and that no one remaining would know who I was.  I didn't change my name/marker until 47, and start hormones until 48.  I hope to be done surgically by 51, although I have no final date yet.

Very cool rmaddy. You are living it :) :D

47 year old here, started HRT last November on a low dosage after working to lose weight and improve health having come to terms with who I am in Nov 2014.  Against common advice I've been self-medicating, and am aware of the risks.  However, I have recently been in touch with the doctor and am waiting for referral so will continue to self-med until then.

I'm now on a higher does of Estrofem which I've increased slowly, but I've kept the spiro reasonable as this is the one that scares me.  I got my first set of proper bloods today having been getting them regularly but not specifically asked for hormone checks, and the results are both pleasing as they're in the right ball-park, but potentially too high for one.  T levels are 0.9nmol/L (36ng/dL) which is below what I believe is a good target, 55ng/dL (free T is 0.2ng/dL).  This appears quite a significant drop as I believe the average for my age is 527ng/dL!  Whilst E is higher than ideal levels I've seen on these forums @ 1270pmol/L (346pg/mL), where ideal levels are around 210pg/mL.  Thankfully everything else is fine with my bloods.

I'm actually worried that it has impeded breast development which were growing well and are around a B cup at the moment. 

I started HRT at roughly the same age.  I am glad you will be getting medical help soon.

The typical scenario is for later transitioning women to get less breast development than younger MTFs.  I would love to see a scientific trial of HRT with the addition of human growth hormone, which would more closely mimic the state of the natal female adolescent.  To the best of my knowledge it has not been done.

Bottom line is that if you want a better top line, you're going to end up needing breast implants.  Getting mine next month after 2 years of HRT.  Woohoo!

I was hoping to reach a C cup on my own, but I've only been on HRT 9 calendar months and did start low dosage for the first 4, upping it a bit at that point and then upping again it recently.  I'll bear your comments in mind but give it a while before I seriously consider that route.  I hope you enjoy your new top line in a month though  :)

Started transitioning at 43, which was last year. Been on hrt for a little over a year now, and had successfully and effetively transitioned at work before I left my last job. I am on the right path, I think. lol!

I hit 40 two weeks ago,  so I guess I qualify for this thread [emoji5].
On HRT for a month now,  and full-time for three months. No visible changes yet for me.

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Quote from: rmaddy on August 02, 2017, 10:33:22 AMThe typical scenario is for later transitioning women to get less breast development than younger MTFs.  I would love to see a scientific trial of HRT with the addition of human growth hormone, which would more closely mimic the state of the natal female adolescent.  To the best of my knowledge it has not been done.

There is a study from 2017 (http://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(17)30415-0/abstract) in transgirls aged at least 16 yrs old in whom HRT produced "objectively small" breast volume and also "subjectively unsatisfactory" breast volume. Growth hormone levels are quite high at that age.

Also, women with Laron syndrome with insensitivity to growth hormone develop normal size breasts and have normal development.

So, there is more going on than just GH.

I've actually witnessed and seen better breast development in many older women relative to their younger counterparts, you would be surprised. As far as breast growth goes, I disagree with your statement.

QuoteBottom line is that if you want a better top line, you're going to end up needing breast implants.

Not necessarily. Wait and see...

QuoteGetting mine next month after 2 years of HRT.

2 years is not a long time as it can take between 1 to up to 9 yrs in cisgirls to go from the bud stage of breast development to the very last stage. In one study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2020314/), they state "The interval from the first sign of puberty to complete maturity varied from 1.5 years to over 6 years. The bud stage of breast development persisted for between 6 months and 2 years before further change took place."

Several years after HRT, I've had periods of sudden increased breast growth due to changes in my HRT.

Quote from: meganjames2 on August 02, 2017, 03:29:46 PM
I hit 40 two weeks ago,  so I guess I qualify for this thread [emoji5].
On HRT for a month now,  and full-time for three months. No visible changes yet for me.

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It will come!

I'm in my early 40's!!! OK, I'm 46 but I consider this still early until I turn 49....

I started HRT in March 2016 and it has been a pretty interesting ride so far but I'm very happy with what I've been able to achieve since then. Boob growth could be better (a small B cup) but the hips have widened quite a bit plus my bottom rounded out (Thank god, it was flat as a pancake!!!)

I'm feeling alive and worth living for the first time ever despite the rough times with kids and family but we'll get over it.

Love u all.
Jessica :)

Other than reasonable breast growth I'm not really seeing anything significant physically, but do note a softer, less oily skin that is much more sensitive to heat.  No noticeable facial changes and my measurements are pretty much the same as they were when starting HRT.  I'm disappointed at the moment.  I guess I'm not one of the lucky ones  :(

Quote from: JennyOwen on August 04, 2017, 06:15:58 PM
Other than reasonable breast growth I'm not really seeing anything significant physically, but do note a softer, less oily skin that is much more sensitive to heat.  No noticeable facial changes and my measurements are pretty much the same as they were when starting HRT.  I'm disappointed at the moment.  I guess I'm not one of the lucky ones  :(

Wait until your doctor gets you adjusted to a proper dosage. You might want to take some current pictures because looking at our face day to day, we often don't se the changes. In my case when I was off HRT, I didn't notice what was happening to my face. I was getting misgendered badly and one day when I took a real good look at my face, I realized what had happened. I have been back on HRT for close to 1.5 years and while I am no beauty, I can see it working it's magic again. It will probably take a couple of more years to get things back the way they were.

I turned 40 just before coming to terms with being trans. Began HRT at low E dose in Feb 2017 and at a transition dose in May. I had low T for years and slow progressing gynocomastia so I guess I had breast buds before starting HRT. I'm not sure what cup size I am. I wear sports bras or similar build comfort fit types. My breasts are large enough that without a bra I have to support them with my arm if I want to run across the house to answer the phone or they hurt bad from the bouncing. Still have a way to go I hope. They do seem to have slowed as I don't normally feel the aching anymore but still hurt if bumped even slightly.

Otherwise, I have put on fat on my backside and my thighs a bit. Not really my hips yet. I also managed to gain 10-15 lbs after I started medroxyprogesterone. With the muscle loss my belly fat all dropped into the center. Need to work on that area. My arms now have a slight flabby skin under them like any middle aged woman. My legs thinned down a lot.my lower legs look like a woman's legs except I have big knee caps. Ehh what you gonna do?  ;) My forearms have reduced as did my neck thickness some. Skin smoothed out a lot. Body hair greatly reduced and seems to continue to fade smaller over time. My therapist says my face has changed a lot since I started. I see me every day so I don't recognize the changes much.