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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Padma on December 27, 2012, 08:47:05 AM

Title: Lady Boy?
Post by: Padma on December 27, 2012, 08:47:05 AM
I really don't know what to think about this - the Boston Tea Party café is selling a thai chicken themed wrap called The Lady Boy.

This both amuses me and really pisses me off, for very different reasons.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: peky on December 27, 2012, 09:29:16 AM
link?
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: spacial on December 27, 2012, 11:04:00 AM
Is the Boston Tea Party cafe known for making statements? Does it have a Palin fish cake?

It does seem rather questionable.

If it upset me personally I would just go elsewhere. Though I can't really see myself going to a cafe with a name like  Boston Tea Party café.
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: mintra on December 27, 2012, 11:53:52 AM
I think it's funny. They sure had a creative idea and good sense of humor on their menu item.

However, I never like the term 'ladyboy' It just sounds degrading and associates with porn industry.
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: Annah on December 27, 2012, 12:08:00 PM
i would never be the type that would make an issue if i saw it on a menu to the waiter/waitress.

However, the term "ladyboy" is kinda offensive. It's almost like the Eastern version of ->-bleeped-<-.
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: mintra on December 27, 2012, 01:48:55 PM
Quote from: Annah on December 27, 2012, 12:08:00 PM
i would never be the type that would make an issue if i saw it on a menu to the waiter/waitress.

However, the term "ladyboy" is kinda offensive. It's almost like the Eastern version of ->-bleeped-<-.
Ooh I hate that term too '->-bleeped-<-' Eww. So demeaning.
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: Kaelin on December 27, 2012, 04:06:21 PM
Am I wrong for thinking s**m*** is as bad as n*****?  I mean, n***** has a deep history in slavery that grossly distorts a sometimes-visible minority, but s**m*** is a porn word that takes the image of people heavily falling into economic/sexual slavery of said industry and imposes that picture to grossly distort an invisible minority, and there hasn't been a movement to "reclaim" the word (unlike n*****).
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: spacial on December 27, 2012, 04:43:16 PM
I don't think so.

But I wonder if we, as a community want to be going down the route of things not to mention?

Title: Lady Boy?
Post by: Padma on December 27, 2012, 04:59:01 PM
Quote from: peky on December 27, 2012, 09:29:16 AM
link?
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: Devlyn on December 27, 2012, 05:03:50 PM
That must have been awkward......"Excuse me, may I photograph your lady boy?"
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: Padma on December 27, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
I was queuing for the counter when I saw this in their self-service chill cabinet.

I expect whoever thought this up just thought it was cool, and had no idea some people find it offensive. I think I'm going to write to them to point this out, though.
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: spacial on December 27, 2012, 06:00:38 PM
I forgot you're in the UK.

A place in the UK with a name like The Boston Tea Party Cafe?

It is really not the sort of place I'd personally go to unless to use the free toilet.

Sorry Padma. Not meaning any disrespect. I just try to avoid pretension whenever I can.

You mean this: http://www.bostonteaparty.co.uk/what-we-do (http://www.bostonteaparty.co.uk/what-we-do)

Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: peky on December 27, 2012, 06:09:53 PM
So, Padma, what was inside the wrapper?
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: Padma on December 27, 2012, 06:19:32 PM
I don't know what was inside the wrapper - chicken, thai-esque flavouring, peanut sauce I think.

The BTP in Exeter is my place to escape to for a cup of herb tea and some writing or reading, as it has this goddamn huge room upstairs with big windows, feels a bit like Hogwarts dining hall. Not really caring about the pretension or otherwise thereof, I just like the place and the staff and the tea, and the fact that they can cater for people who can't eat wheat.

Anyway, I've written them a polite note explaining why some people may find Lady Boy offensive as a term for lunch.
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: spacial on December 27, 2012, 06:22:15 PM
Padma.

I hope I haven't seemed disrespectful to you here. Personally I'd find any place that used titles like they do, especially those prices is not the type of place I'd frequent. But I'm a bit of a meat and two veg sort.

Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: peky on December 27, 2012, 06:28:21 PM
Humm...I wonder if it is a sausage wrap in some tortilla...know that would be clever and funny
Title: Lady Boy?
Post by: Padma on December 27, 2012, 06:32:48 PM
I wouldn't pay four quid for a sarnie either, don't worry :). Their hot food is less poncy, and they do great gluten-free cakes. Sometimes it's what I need (I'm not sure why, but I feel safe there, and that's worth a lot).
Title: Lady Boy?
Post by: Padma on December 27, 2012, 06:35:01 PM
I think they just called it Lady Boy because it was the first Thai thing they could think of. Pff...
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: Devlyn on December 27, 2012, 06:45:22 PM
We don't have restaurants here in Boston named Boston Tea Party, we actually throw the stuff in the harbour! Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: Annah on December 27, 2012, 10:06:54 PM
Quote from: Kaelin on December 27, 2012, 04:06:21 PM
Am I wrong for thinking s**m*** is as bad as n*****?  I mean, n***** has a deep history in slavery that grossly distorts a sometimes-visible minority, but s**m*** is a porn word that takes the image of people heavily falling into economic/sexual slavery of said industry and imposes that picture to grossly distort an invisible minority, and there hasn't been a movement to "reclaim" the word (unlike n*****).

nope. You're not wrong at all. ->-bleeped-<- is a horrible term.

I once saw someone state in their OKcupid profile that she hopes she can become a ->-bleeped-<- one day. OMG....only the grace of God and the peace of Christ and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit refrained me cussing her out through a PM.

I was calm. Told her how horrible that term is and why.
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: luna nyan on December 27, 2012, 10:32:45 PM
Personally I find the whole thing incongruous!
Somehow or rather, I now word associate "Boston Tea Party" with right wing politics, and finding a "Lady Boy" in the midst is rather uhm... whacked.

To me, it's a bit derogative, but I'm trying to move beyond labels these days and not be offended.
Title: Lady Boy?
Post by: Padma on December 27, 2012, 11:11:27 PM
I think over here, there's more an association between Boston Tea Party and "revolutionary" - or there was until the GOP folk started using that monicker. So they probably picked the name for the cafés when it still sounded edgy :).
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: MaidofOrleans on December 27, 2012, 11:46:11 PM
I think its funny...

..but then again, I have a sense of humor.
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: Chaos on December 28, 2012, 04:15:14 AM
Lady Boy is an asian based term for trans people.This is hard to hear yes and they are seen as 2 things 1) an attraction-something people come to see and have their picture taken with or 2) a prostitute,because if you are not in show business then you have no life or money.I do not agree with this term and most asian countries do not give legal rights to trans people.for example,you are not allowed to change your marker on id's,bc, or anything like the such so you get the point.they encourge it only because it brings money,people from around the world and business to their country.
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: Padma on December 28, 2012, 06:25:55 AM
Now this is just surreal - a friend just posted on fb about getting a perfume from Lush called... Ladyboy.
Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: peky on December 28, 2012, 11:16:39 AM
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Now this is just surreal - a friend just posted on fb about getting a perfume from Lush called... Ladyboy.
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And it is a fragrance for men!!!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Lush/Ladyboy-13725Chtml (http://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Lush/Ladyboy-13725Chtml)

Title: Re: Lady Boy?
Post by: judithlynn on December 29, 2012, 06:28:32 PM
Hi Padma;
The Boston Tea Party cafe is my favourite place in Exeter. Its the only place I can get a real cup of coffee. Their large skinny milk Latte is just great. I frequently go there after a beauty therapy session at my beauticians in Queen Street or after been shopping in Marks & Sparks just to rest my feet in my heels!.  Mind you right now I prefer being in the warm weather. Looking at the weather in Exeter right now makes me shiver!
Hugs
Judith Lynn