QuoteFurther evidence crabs and other crustaceans feel pain
Scientists have found further evidence that crustaceans feel pain.
A study has revealed that the shore crab, a close relative of the species we use for food, responds to electric shocks and then goes on to avoid them.
Previous research has shown that prawns and hermit crabs also react to painful situations.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21044077 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21044077)
People who cook are sadists.
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You can tell a crab feels pain when you throw it into the boiling water and it tries to escape. It doesn't take a scientist to figure that out.
Quote from: Sadie May on January 17, 2013, 10:40:43 AM
People who cook are sadists.
;)
Plants also feel and even anticipate pain
People who eat vegetable are sadists
Quote from: peky on January 17, 2013, 10:47:35 AM
Plants also feel and even anticipate pain
People who eat vegetable are sadists
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Quote from: peky on January 17, 2013, 10:47:35 AM
Plants also feel and even anticipate pain
People who eat vegetable are sadists
Plants do react to stimuli, that is one of the characteristics of all living things.
But how can you take that response as an indicator of feeling anything?
Quote from: spacial on January 17, 2013, 11:05:11 AM
Plants do react to stimuli, that is one of the characteristics of all living things.
But how can you take that response as an indicator of feeling anything?
If you feel anything then you respond...Of course plants do not have a central nervous sytem and thus they cannot have a cognizant pain as superior animals do but plants are aware of their own physiological collapse (as in dying) of or the loss of a part...
So the strictly good budhist or 'tree hugger' should restrict their diets to just fruits...good luck with that one
Having said that, I am a an equal-oportunity sadist..I eat anything: cold or hot, alive or death, spices or bland, animal or plant, bacteria or fungal, organic or synthetic...
Some people are so goddamn stupid.
They used to say babies don't feel pain, either..."brain's not fully developed yet"...I watched them poke my kids in the heel for a blood test thing...omg the screams were horrible!
Why in hell wouldn't we think ALL animals feel pain?
So let's assume any animal with a nervous system has the ability to feel "pain" and/or have sensations concerning it's environment. What's the point?
I've said it before, animals can escape. Sneaking up on some poor, defenseless plant that can't run away is just barbaric.
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 21, 2013, 05:20:30 PM
I've said it before, animals can escape. Sneaking up on some poor, defenseless plant that can't run away is just barbaric.
I guess this means you only eat the carnivorous plants then.
Vegetables is for rabbits!
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 21, 2013, 06:41:32 PM
Vegetables is for rabbits!
Bunnies are evil. But, they taste so good! >:-)
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Peky wants to kill everythng!
I'll attest to the notion that hermit crabs feel pain. I own 14 of them and they're quite aware of their surroundings and they're more than aware when something hurts [you should hear the sounds they make if they get into a fight].
I also will not eat any animal that is boiled alive including crabs, shrimp, and lobster. The idea of boiling something alive is horrendous to me. I understand why as people say it causes a bitter taste to kill them before hand and that it can be bad for a person's digestive system, but I still find it a horrible thing. It doesn't seem at all to respect the life of that animal to boil them; it's a cruel way to kill them.
On plants, I personally honor and give thanks to whatever comes across my plate be it plant or animal. They gave up their lives so I could eat and survive, even if they put up a fight doing so. It is the whole "circle of life" thing as creatures do need to eat to survive and live, but that doesn't mean respect shouldn't be given and that animal shouldn't be killed in a respectful manner. But it's my own personal beliefs on the matter of giving thanks.
I pretty much agree. I love crabs. They have such ridiculous and cute personalities. I kind of am horrified by the idea of them getting boiled alive.
Quote from: Jen on January 21, 2013, 09:20:02 PM
I pretty much agree. I love crabs. They have such ridiculous and cute personalities. I kind of am horrified by the idea of them getting boiled alive.
Definitely! I've got one guy that gets upset if there's no human present in the room and then I have a girl whose trust I've
finally won. It took forever considering I had to take special care of her because one guy grabbed a hold of her while she was molting and promptly ripped off all of the legs on one side of her body. I had to baby her so much to keep her from dying. It was miserable to watch, but she lived! :D She's now the only crab in the tank that looks like an orange strawberry. XD
Awe! That's so cute! Except for the one that got assaulted, but I love you for taking care of her :)
The only creatures that don't feel pain are University Lectures (ULs). I've made a study of them for the Animal Ethics Unit at my Uni.
They thrive on being ignored, laughed at and subject to ridicule. After a breeding cycle called, 'teaching the topic' they withdraw to cave like structures (an office) where they attempt to regain self esteem and some sense of worth. Finally most go irretrievably mad from pain and abuse and then begin the other part of the life cycle. They become timid and are approached by 'the student' this is a feeding creature that preys on the ULs and tries to talk them into repeating ignored lectures, give out lecture notes and feel sorry for them. The ULs develop a thick skin and then develop "The Exam Paper" this is the beginning of the end of the breeding cycle. Slowly the exam paper formulates and there is often hideous laughter emanating from the ULs who start to see 'The Exam Paper' as a sexual trophy.
Some ULs start to wave their 'Exam Paper' in the air to attract other ULs with sexual stimulating screams of 'Mine is harder than yours'. This may cause both male and female UL attraction, some are envious; usually young males who develop P envy and say strange things such as that is a long one, or look how thick that is!! Female ULs tend to be more subtle with suggestions of leaving particular long and thick P's in their pigeon holes for 'academic interest' with some comment that they will sleep on it.
This is usually misunderstood by all concerned.
The end of the cycle is typified by a subject of some debate: The "Exam Paper" is used as bait to capture 'students' most ULs recognise that 'students' have very primitive nervous systems and feel no pain. However, occasionally they seem to go through defecation and intense crying symptoms; these appear closely linked to 'students' who had high ridicule and boredom responses at the being of the cycle. Most ULs agree that this is an involuntary response that has no physiological link to a 'brain'. Most ULs have difficulty in associating 'brains' with 'students'. Their also appears little behavioural studies to support the concept.
The end of the cycle, usually called 'marking', is a hideous and often misunderstood processes during which ULs develop maniacal laughter and walk in a double over pose holding their stomachs as they attempt to breathe between intense laughter and screams of disbelief. No one seems to understand this phase. Often ULs start to develop a very strong smell of alcohol at this time; it has been suggested as pheromone response to personal failure.
Shortly after this, 'students' start to implode. Often they are 'students' who live up to a life cycle known as 'super cool'. They are seldom seen again and where they complete their life cycle is poorly understood.
ULs also under go transformation, 'successful' ones, and we are unsure what that means, shed their clothing for brighter more striking colours and migrate to larger caves.
What is clear that none of these creatures have a developed nervous system, and do not appear to feel pain. Their responses appear to be pre-programmed and follow a well defined cycle.
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Quote from: Jen on January 22, 2013, 01:33:48 AM
Awe! That's so cute! Except for the one that got assaulted, but I love you for taking care of her :)
She's kind of my baby. xD I have such a soft spot for her and I'd be devastated if something happened.
Quote from: Aaron Gabriel on January 22, 2013, 09:24:01 AM
She's kind of my baby. xD I have such a soft spot for her and I'd be devastated if something happened.
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