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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Lesley_Roberta on January 30, 2013, 07:41:03 PM

Title: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Lesley_Roberta on January 30, 2013, 07:41:03 PM
I have on occasion asked myself, ok I want to be a woman or rather I AM one but I lack the proper hardware sadly, but what is it about me that is so damned girlie anyway?

I mean, what do I do that is NOT girlie and what do I do that IS girlie?

I am typing in between a break in watching Sailor Moon. That is my first example by the way.

I am a fussy dresser, I have to have my clothes on me just so.

I AM rather prone to be emotional. Ok that might sound sexist, sue me.

I consider chic flicks ok. Yes we all know what I mean by chic flicks. I tend to get turned off by too much ostentatious male grunting in movies.

The music I listen to I am informed is chick music. Hey I happen to like listening to Celine Dion thank you very much (and we are both from Quebec too).

You'd need to watch me role gaming some time :) All I want is the drama, the fighting rarely entertains me.

And yes, the way to my heart is with chocolate.
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Kevin Peña on January 30, 2013, 07:46:56 PM
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This is my giant teddy bear, Mr. Snuggles. I also have stuffed animals named Cuddlekins, Fluffles, and many others.

I like frilly dresses. Yes, my wardrobe is one of the few things about me that is conservative.  :P
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Misato on January 30, 2013, 10:38:45 PM
I short circuit for a moment whenever I'm gendered as a male.  When I'm gendered as a female I can just flow, no reset required.  The misgendering can be done by other people or by myself when I'm doing something like typing a login into a computer.

I wanna go on here and give examples of typical female interests, which I have, and typical male interests, which I also have and how I do not hold that the latter subtracts from my feminity.  But I think it's more important to note that it was recognizing my identity as female is what allowed me to begin my transition. 

So, I guess what I'm saying is, the most girly thing about me is me!
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Emily Aster on January 30, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
I wouldn't actually say that there's necessarily something girly about me. It's more of a combination of physical dysphoria and that almost everything I like (and dislike) are things that are traditionally female traits in society. I have some feminine mannerisms, but not enough for someone to say "whoa, what's going on there?" I do like wearing dresses and stuff, but that's really just fabric. If I were born in a different time, the men might be the ones in the dresses.
Title: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Keira on January 30, 2013, 11:49:53 PM
I'm sort of quiet and shy-ish, I like cute things (stuffed animals etc.), and I like highly intimate relationships. I also cry a lot during really emotional movies.

Other than that...I'm me. :)

-Skye
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Heather on January 31, 2013, 12:10:53 AM
I don't know if I like labeling the stuff I do is girlie. I Love to shop and I have been told by several people I shop like a woman. But is that girlie who Say's a guy can't love to shop. It's a stereotype and I don't feel comfortable being stereotypical. I guess what I'm trying to say is the reason I love to shop is not because it's what women are supposed to like. I shop because I love to shop and that a me thing not a girlie thing.
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on January 31, 2013, 12:13:35 AM
Quote from: DianaP on January 30, 2013, 07:46:56 PM
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This is my giant teddy bear, Mr. Snuggles.

Zomg that looks fun to burn!!!! ;D
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Kevin Peña on January 31, 2013, 05:36:15 AM
Quote from: Heather on January 31, 2013, 12:10:53 AM
It's a stereotype and I don't feel comfortable being stereotypical.

I think that the OP was asking what about your behavior matches the stereotypical attributes of the gender you identify as. It's all in jest.

Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on January 31, 2013, 12:13:35 AM
Zomg that looks fun to burn!!!! ;D

If you come close to Mr. Snuggles with fire, I'll just have to do something about that.  :icon_boxing:
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: kira21 ♡♡♡ on January 31, 2013, 06:28:34 AM
I like baking and make cakes pastries breads etc, love sugar craft cake making,  I love paining nails in different designs, I love dancing,  and clothing and am probably more concerned with my weight than I should be. I love looking after children especially my own and necessary and nephews,  Erm, love  girly films, have always had effeminate taste in music, Erm,  everything really!  Lol
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: suzifrommd on January 31, 2013, 07:08:45 AM
For me it's an emotional thing. I want to be emotionally connected with my friends in a way few men do. I lean toward empathy, wanting to see things from someone else's point of view, caring and valuing my own and other people's feelings.

Don't know if that's because I'm trans or just my personality.
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: kira21 ♡♡♡ on January 31, 2013, 07:17:19 AM
Quote from: agfrommd on January 31, 2013, 07:08:45 AM
For me it's an emotional thing. I want to be emotionally connected with my friends in a way few men do. I lean toward empathy, wanting to see things from someone else's point of view, caring and valuing my own and other people's feelings.

Don't know if that's because I'm trans or just my personality.

Yeah I agree with that :-)  x
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Lesley_Roberta on January 31, 2013, 07:27:09 AM
DianaP is correct, this is all for us to laugh at ourselves and enjoy those things that some would call problems, and we call affirmations I suppose.

I grew up thinking real men were Ward Cleaver and real women were June Cleaver.

So understandably, my being able to keep a tidy efficient kitchen, being able to use a sewing machine and liking to shop is to me 'girlie'.

Explaining to me that men are the best chefs, and men make fine tailors is simply going no where with me. And you certainly won't get any mileage playing the PC card 'oh but men can do that too, it's ok'. Yeah whatever.

I grew up with women being stay at home moms in dresses. I didn't grow up with a world where dad was ok being Mr Mom while his wife went off to the office.

I like my bubble baths. Not the least because all those bubbles allow me to relax and that thing isn't visible to ruin my fantasy.

I like wearing perfume. I like stopping at a street corner and a slight breeze will carry my scent to my nose and remind me I smell pretty.

I doubt my mother realizes, that I have no problem with stopping to gab with her friends while we are out shopping. I like talking with other women. I have absolutely no idea what men find to talk about though out in front of Tim Horton's leaning against their cars.

The moment someone mentions a sports team or some manner of season play off I tune out. I do like watching figure skating though.

I have never felt out of place sitting in a ceramics store making some ceramic project in a room full of other ladies. I never seem to encounter guys that like this stuff though. I have been pondering having my wife show me how to knit as well. I don't like wearing knit items though. And I think I might like to add cross stitching to my skills list. My wife has a lot of VERY impressive future heirlooms spread around the family that several have stated they plan to claim when my mother passes on.

No one though seems in a hurry to get any of my models :) But I have done all the very expensive looking frames for the cross stitching items. They are all originals.
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Lesley_Roberta on January 31, 2013, 07:29:01 AM
Quote from: agfrommd on January 31, 2013, 07:08:45 AM
For me it's an emotional thing. I want to be emotionally connected with my friends in a way few men do. I lean toward empathy, wanting to see things from someone else's point of view, caring and valuing my own and other people's feelings.

Don't know if that's because I'm trans or just my personality.

Interesting, I would never have made that connection, but now that you mention it, that sums me up a lot too.

Heck I am always pondering ways to get my single male friends married :)
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: crazy at the coast on January 31, 2013, 07:45:20 AM
I don't really do anything that I would consider particularly girly.
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Heather on January 31, 2013, 07:51:27 AM
Quote from: DianaP on January 31, 2013, 05:36:15 AM
I think that the OP was asking what about your behavior matches the stereotypical attributes of the gender you identify as. It's all in jest.


Yeah I know!
Quote from: agfrommd on January 31, 2013, 07:08:45 AM
For me it's an emotional thing. I want to be emotionally connected with my friends in a way few men do. I lean toward empathy, wanting to see things from someone else's point of view, caring and valuing my own and other people's feelings.

Don't know if that's because I'm trans or just my personality.
That's totally me but the funny thing is until now I never really thought of it as a feminine trait. It always perplexed me how guys I know can never seem to understand someone else's point of view. 
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: crazy at the coast on January 31, 2013, 08:01:09 AM
Quote from: Heather on January 31, 2013, 07:51:27 AM
It always perplexed me how guys I know can never seem to understand someone else's point of view.
You need one of these.

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy-The Point of View Gun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsgbcYnmR6Y#)
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Anna++ on January 31, 2013, 09:03:57 AM
Quote from: DianaP on January 30, 2013, 07:46:56 PM
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This is my giant teddy bear, Mr. Snuggles. I also have stuffed animals named Cuddlekins, Fluffles, and many others.

I wonder if I can find something similar in penguin form... * makes a mental note to search Google later *

LIke Sky-blue, I also enjoy intimate relationships (and as much as I don't feel like dating these days, I do miss having somebody to cuddle with at night).

My high-school girlfriend once commented that I don't have much of an adams apple, my college girlfriend said I have beautiful eyelashes, and since I started growing out my hair my grandma started commenting that she wished she had hair like mine.  But none of that is stuff that I do... it just reassures me a bit if I start worrying over if I could ever pass.
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Emily Aster on January 31, 2013, 09:07:55 AM
Quote from: EmSchuma on January 31, 2013, 09:03:57 AM
I wonder if I can find something similar in penguin form... * makes a mental note to search Google later *

LIke Sky-blue, I also enjoy intimate relationships (and as much as I don't feel like dating these days, I do miss having somebody to cuddle with at night).

My high-school girlfriend once commented that I don't have much of an adams apple, my college girlfriend said I have beautiful eyelashes, and since I started growing out my hair my grandma started commenting that she wished she had hair like mine.  But none of that is stuff that I do...

Ooo penguins.

I love cuddling. Miss that myself.

Despite my deep voice, I also don't have much of an adams apple. My eyelashes suck, but my hair is very wavy. Everytime I go for electrolysis, the lady raves about how much she wishes she had my hair and skin. She says if she had my hair, she'd let that wave go wherever it wants to go, without styling. So I tried that and it actually does look better when I don't try than when I do lol.
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Anna++ on January 31, 2013, 09:14:56 AM
Quote from: Emily52736 on January 31, 2013, 09:07:55 AM
Ooo penguins.

I love cuddling. Miss that myself.

Despite my deep voice, I also don't have much of an adams apple. My eyelashes suck, but my hair is very wavy. Everytime I go for electrolysis, the lady raves about how much she wishes she had my hair and skin. She says if she had my hair, she'd let that wave go wherever it wants to go, without styling. So I tried that and it actually does look better when I don't try than when I do lol.

I think my "wave" looks better on my left side than my right.  On my left side it's about 2/3 of the way down my ear and pointing backwards, wraps around my head, and comes around to my right side pointing forward almost parallel to the floor...  I wonder how it'll look in a few more months.
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Heather on January 31, 2013, 09:18:40 AM
Quote from: crazy at the coast on January 31, 2013, 08:01:09 AM
You need one of these.


lol Yes I do!!
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Brooke777 on January 31, 2013, 10:56:45 AM
I have been told a few times, even by people at work where I only transitioned about 2 months ago, that I can make the most manly activity appear girlie. So, I think the most girlie thing about me is my personality. I don't have a lot of particularly feminine interests, rather more masculine ones. But, I apparently make those look girlie too. Hmm, works for me.
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Miharu Barbie on January 31, 2013, 11:33:15 AM
Here's a fun story.

I work in a mostly female environment.  One day 6 or 7 women were hanging around in my office chit chatting with my office mate while I was deeply focused on my work.  (We share a fairly big office.)  Somehow (I have no idea how) the subject of trans women came up.  Of course my ears perked up; no one at work knows about my transsexual history.  One of the women was saying that she has a cousin who is in transition from male to female.  So I chimed in that I was thinking about calling my mother to tell her that I'm going to become her son, that I'm thinking about becoming a man.  They all looked at me for a moment, and then they all exploded in laughter.  They laughed until they cried.  The general concensus among the assembled women is that there is no one in the building who is least likely to be able to pass as a man than I am.

What's girly about me?  Look up girly in the dictionary and there will be a picture of me.  My nails are always painted bright colors.  I love to play with makeup, even if I have no intention of leaving the house, I get up in the morning and put on makeup just because it brings me joy.  I love to style my waist length straight soft hair in extreme girly styles that I pick up from anime cartoons and Barbie Dolls.  I have a "thing" for soft girly sweaters and bright pink or red lips.  I love to keep my bangs just long enough to brush my eyelashes; it feels sexy and girly to me.  As a competitive pool player, I tend to be a great big flirt with the boys even as I kick their butts at the pool table... I enjoy the flirtatious attention of men.  And I really love the way I look in heels and a light dress, bent over a pool table, my long pink, blue, purple, black, brown and red streaked hair spread out across the table, with the boys watching my derriere.

I mean seriously... what isn't girly about me?

Hugs,
Miharu

(Did I mention my predilection for corsets?  I wear corsets everyday, laced as tight as I can get them.  I want to see just how small I can get my waist over time.   And I'm a very big fan of flashy, sparkly, girly belts that show off my tiny, corsetted waist.  The list goes on....)
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Miharu Barbie on January 31, 2013, 12:28:46 PM
Quote from: TessaM on January 31, 2013, 12:21:26 PM
......I am also girly when I run intensely on the treadmill for an hour and a half listening to gangsta rap.

Too cute!  My guilty little secret is that I listen to a lot of Insane Clown Posse.  Sometimes I think I should have taken the name "Anomaly".   ;D
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: JulieC. on February 02, 2013, 09:47:36 AM
I don't know if there is a whole lot about me that's girly.  Like some others have said it's more of an emotional thing with me.  A happy or sad ending to a movie and the tears start flowing.  I also believe I think more like a woman even after spending my whole life being trained as a man.  Just listening to some of things my male coworkers say...well I just don't get it.

One thing about me that is girly though.  I spend at least an hour and a half in the bathroom every morning getting ready to go to work (IN MALE MODE!) only to get dirty the minute I start working.  I can only imagine what it's going to be like when I go full time and want to look perfect before I leave the house.  I may have to give up sleeping.
Title: Re: So what is so girlie about you any way (or the reverse, manly for the FTM here)
Post by: Anna on February 02, 2013, 03:03:44 PM
Well as we're playing to sterotypes - I like pretty things. I like fabrics and colours and fashion & fashion photography. I like nice light feminine perfumes. I like co-operating not competing (though where that stereotype about women came from I do not know - it's blatantly untrue). I'm gentle & thoughtful and caring. I'm very emotional. I'm needy. Many of my gestures, movement and poses are girly and people often tease me about this. I like it when my handwriting looks feminine and I was extremely pleased when a colleague commented on this. I used to love having long tangly hair but that's gone now but I still find myself acting as though it should be there sometimes. When I dance I move like a girl (so i tend to avoid dancing).  I always choose female characters in games that give you the choice.

There's no point in me bothering with makeup because I'm so physically male that I look like a dog but I would like to look pretty and attractive.

I want to be held by a nice loving man.

I wish I had the female gift for conversation.