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I'm curious about what you all think about it.  Do we think too much about what we do, why we do it, if we should do it and how we should do it? 

Uh, duh :P

I don't.. But it would seem that many do..

I went with "Oh God Yes!" I was split between that and "I like bunny rabbits," only opting for the former cause I prefer kittens to bunnies.

On subject, I was debating earlier whether to post in the thread about the 6'6" transwoman who played basketball, but opted not to because I felt I would be laughed at for posting "I'm 5'7 and I feel too tall sometimes."

Not to mention I still don't feel like I pass, even though a couple of weeks ago, I went to an event and had a guy following me around all day. He was nice, but I didn't feel anything for him. I still feel like my voice sucks in spite of the guy not noticing and people actually being shocked at discovering I'm trans. I hate my shoulders, even though I see many cis women my age with broader shoulders.

I think we are, or at least I am, a bundle of nerves over my appearance.

It was really hard not to vote for bunny rabbits.   'Cause I luff 'em. :)

I know I do! I'm subconscious about every one of my perceived flaws  :-\

I feel that most people trans or otherwise tend to be overly analytical of themselves and others

Thinking about this more, I should probably add that I did over-analyse myself in the past. Then I realised that it was not doing me any good, so I gave up.. There were so many unanswerables, so I stopped worrying about them and started living.

As it turns out, most of what I was worrying about was wasted effort.

Oh yes, I think I do it always and sometimes going overboard too.  ;D

Used to before transition.  During transition it was just down to the business of transitioning.  After transition it was down the business of enjoying life and getting on with things.

Now, all these years later I've started to analysis again.  A little bit anyway.


I really do believe it comes down to the type of personality you have though.   

We did this personality test at work a few years ago:  I came out green and gold, which is generally very analytic and like to plan every move.

http://www.online-distance-learning-education.com/personality-test.html (http://www.online-distance-learning-education.com/personality-test.html)

Analysis is the only tool we have. Our experiences are unlike anything else we've come across.

I voted "Like that's any of your business, why are you being so darned nosey?!?"

Nothing about you, Crazy dear  :)
I do tend to get a bit annoyed when people say I'm overanalyzing. I don't just do it with trans issues. It's that Virgo curse.

But yes, in general we trans folk overanalyze too much. Oddly, I think I do it less regarding trans issues than most. I may be having a bit of a masculinity crisis right now but I don't have a lot of hangups about being trans. I cut my tits off, took T, changed my documents - and now I'm just like 'whatever'. I'm not hung up on my body like many trans people seem to be even after transition (no offense to anyone who is; that's just me). I don't care whether I've basically made myself intersexed for all intents and purposes.

And I don't even seem to care whether people 'think of me as a man' or not. As long as they use the right pronouns. I don't even get bothered when family members call me my old name. Not really their fault, as I never explain things any further than just 'I'm transgender. I don't want to shock you when you see me, so you should know I look like a guy now'. I don't like talking about it.

So, yeah trans is one area I analyze the least.

However, I'm super overanalyzing and self-critical of every single other factor about me. I have a crippling inability to lie about myself (or to myself) which means all my flaws are always right there in front of me.
If only I could lie to myself or excuse myself for so much (especially my nonproductivity and general laziness)...

Yep, I definitely over analyze everything, especially trans feelings. It really sucks sometimes.

Yes, especially on the runway toward transition take off.  Barriers dropping like a checklist to a plane taking off, scary to be left with only me as the decider.

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I voted for bunny rabbits. So cute.

Also, yes. We do overanalyze too much. I do anyway.

Ack! Cute!

Anyway.  I have kind of an analytic mind, so when something bothers me, that's where it's going.  I can't really help it.  I kind of think discussions where somebody is breaking things down are usually pretty interesting anyway, so I wouldn't ever want to discourage anybody from being analytical.

I don't blame myself for being overanalytical when something bothers me, I more blame myself for being bothered in the first place.  Chicken or egg.  And it's not like I can help being bugged when I am, so the whole thing is kind of pointless I guess?  I am the way I am, and that can't be helped. :)

Quote from: Jen on February 11, 2013, 11:14:36 AM
Ack! Cute!

Anyway.  I have kind of an analytic mind, so when something bothers me, that's where it's going.  I can't really help it.  I kind of think discussions where somebody is breaking things down are usually pretty interesting anyway, so I wouldn't ever want to discourage anybody from being analytical.

I don't blame myself for being overanalytical when something bothers me, I more blame myself for being bothered in the first place.  Chicken or egg.  And it's not like I can help being bugged when I am, so the whole thing is kind of pointless I guess?  I am the way I am, and that can't be helped. :)

I'm with the bunny.

I do all the time; its been me  with seen childhood.

Quote from: crazy at the coast on February 10, 2013, 11:17:34 PM
I'm curious about what you all think about it.  Do we think too much about what we do, why we do it, if we should do it and how we should do it?

I put "maybe".  Trans* people generally seem to analyze their selves more than the average population, but not anymore than I've noticed of smaller populations such as Pagans, Otherkin, Therians, Vampires, etc.   I think that there can be too much analyzing in regards to self, but I also don't think there is enough analyzing at times.  It really depends on the person and the situation.

I analyze myself a lot from every nuance of whether or not I'm trans*, why I like certain things, etc., but I'm also aware of when I need to stop and just let things be.  I understand that sometimes if you analyze too much you'll talk yourself into something or just run yourself ragged. 

I like fried rabbit with plenty of gravy.

I do think that many, not all, trans people over analyze themselves. I personally have learned not to really care. I am just me, and I go with the flow.

BTW, I answered "Like that's any of your business, why are you being so darned nosey?!?"
Just because it was funny  ;D

I like bunny rabbits. That being said, yes we do. I had hoped that once I stopped fighting it and just accepted it, that the overanalyzing would go away, but it just took on a new form, which is worrying about passing.

i dont feel like i do but my friends say i do. mostly about my weight though.
i will say though im 5'11 and love that people always say ,"your perfect model height!"  8)

Over analysis is one of the pitfalls we have to deal with.  I don't see how it couldn't be,  we are the square pegs in the round hole desperately trying to understand where we fit.  In my own experience, I have found that I have read so much on the psychology and physiology of transition as well as having a background in anatomy, Kinesiology, diagnostics and having studied the morphological differences between men and women.  I in particular fall in to that trap.  I want to know and understand where I fit. 

If it's true that there may be differences in the structure of our brains, (I believe there is, given my own experience) then in MTF's we have the larger hypo-campus of the typical female enabling us to more effectively utilize both halves of our brain and the prior to HRT added effect of Testosterone enabling us to better focus, (one of the effects of testosterone on the brain is to enhance the ability to focus, it effectively puts the blinders on so we are not distracted).  It also enhances the linear thinking needed for logical analysis.  Because I have not begun HRT, I can't say much on the over analysis other than I believe I would still tend to that out of habit, training, what have you.

C.

I voted for bunny rabbits.

I think most people believe they're over analytical, I think it's just human nature.

That being said, I know I now over-analyze everything, but that's expected when you're undergoing a lawbotomy. :D

Maybe we're over-analyzing whether or not we over-analyze in this thread?  lol

But exactly is "Too much" when you are trans? It's not like deciding on a new job, possibly relocating across the country. Or seeing a therapist about some depressions, social anxiety, anger, whatever. We are talking about possibly alientnating every person you know, may come into contact with, family, even parents. Dealing with red-necks and religous nudnicks that wish you were dead or worse. Some perhaps willing to expedite the process. Loosing a job, not getting a job, needing money for docs, meds, surgeries. Trading off one set of problems to hopefuly fix another while knowing you are jumping into a whole nother mess of problems.

And that is just for starters.

Lots of things to think about and constantly revist and reevaluate.

What is "Too much" when you are trans?