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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Trixie on February 11, 2013, 11:16:27 PM

Title: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Trixie on February 11, 2013, 11:16:27 PM
Obviously directed at people who can't transition at the moment for some reason. Are you jealous of people who do transition? I know I am.  Intensely jealous. I'm somewhat ashamed of just how jealous actually. :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Kelly J. P. on February 11, 2013, 11:19:58 PM
Before transition, my jealousy was mostly directed at cis females rather than trans females. I didn't know any trans females to be jealous of, at the time.

Later on, I became jealous of those girls who got to start before puberty. This envy continues to the present and beyond, and I will probably always have a little resentment in store for those lucky girls. I'm not really proud of that fact, but I believe it's a natural reaction.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: King Malachite on February 11, 2013, 11:22:33 PM
You're not alone in your feelings.  I tend to get REALLY jealous of everyone who can transition and I'm even more jealous of those who have supportive family, friends, workers, S/O's, etc.

I look up intro videos and it's hard for me to see the excitement on their faces when they can get their first T-shot when I know that it will be at least 5 years before I can even begin my transition officially.

-hugs-
Title: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Keira on February 11, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
I'm not jealous of people who are transitioning; I'm more jealous of people with accepting parents. I'm envious of people who live in an area where they can get hrt -more so- easily.

I'm more jealous of the fact that they can transition and I can't, just because I'm at the breaking point and some aren't.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Liminal Stranger on February 11, 2013, 11:41:49 PM
I have a burning jealousy of everyone who is happy with their body genderwise, or on their way to happiness. But it gets masked by the fact that I'm happy and excited for them all the same, regardless of whether or not I know them. My own problems shouldn't put a damper on the mutual happiness.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Emily Aster on February 12, 2013, 12:46:11 AM
Sometimes I get jealous of people moving faster than me, but most of the time the jealousy is over cis women or trans women that already found their female voice. I so can't wait till I find mine.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: JoanneB on February 12, 2013, 05:38:09 AM
Envy yes, Jealous no. 
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on February 12, 2013, 05:47:02 AM
I'm not jealous, because in my case it's my own damn fault.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Anna++ on February 12, 2013, 07:01:09 AM
I went to a support group meeting about a week ago.  I spent the first two or three days after feeling extra-envious of  you girls that are all ahead of me! :P
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: lawliver on February 12, 2013, 07:15:53 AM
My jealousy leans more towards cis males, than trans men. Just because they were naturally born that way. I'm also jealous of trans men. I want to be in their shoes so bad, but i haven't gotten there yet. I guess I just need to be patient, but it's hard. I get where you're coming from there.

~ollie~
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: spacial on February 12, 2013, 07:55:04 AM
No, Proud.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: krakenshay on February 12, 2013, 09:12:49 AM
im extremely jealous of those younger than me that are already on hormones or have had top surgery. I cant help it but i feel like i wasted my life and that things are moving especially slow for me. I am extremely jealous of one guy, who transitioned, he has so many friends, his family is accepting, his gf is also accepting everything seems to be going well for him. the grass is always greener, i suppose
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: kelly25 on February 12, 2013, 09:46:59 AM
Never been jelouse of people transtion was actually proud of them that they started there journey. But I have been jealous of CIS women
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Trixie on February 13, 2013, 05:18:15 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one.

I'll have to admit that I do feel almost resentful of people who are able to transition or have had things easier than I have. Selfish, yes, and I need to not be that way.

I also realize that there may be jealous of me - being 21, with maybe the potential to transition soon. Jealousy is just a hard emotion to control, and I've always been an intensely jealous person in any case.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: JennX on February 13, 2013, 05:39:53 PM
I used to be jealous of cis-females... but after transitioning, I now have cis-females telling me they are jealous of my hair, body, etc. So you never know how things may turn out. Patience is key.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: big kim on February 14, 2013, 06:38:37 AM
I was envious of  those who transitioned when stuck in male role.
Title: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Zumbagirl on February 14, 2013, 08:22:50 AM
I remember years and years ago joining a crossdresser club and that was the first time I met a real living breathing transsexual woman and thinking holy crap is she simply gorgeous and feminine. I was so envious of how someone could be so pretty and feminine and here I was a guy with shaved legs. There were some near full time CDers there and although they made convincing women, they were all just wigs and corsets and fake nails. But that TS woman stuck in my mind. I was afraid to say go over and say hi because I could have caught the TS cooties. It turned out I had them all the time, I just didn't know yet :)
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: halfsleep on February 14, 2013, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: lawliver on February 12, 2013, 07:15:53 AM
My jealousy leans more towards cis males, than trans men. Just because they were naturally born that way. I'm also jealous of trans men. I want to be in their shoes so bad, but i haven't gotten there yet. I guess I just need to be patient, but it's hard. I get where you're coming from there.

~ollie~

Same here.

I'm also a bit jealous of how young all of the transmen seem to be. Many of the videos I've seen on Youtube consist of people aged 18-23 and here I am pushing 26, and haven't progressed anywhere. Granted, I didn't even realize I was trans* until a little while ago. I guess there's a time for everything, right?
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Lesley_Roberta on February 14, 2013, 08:34:31 AM
Jealous of the lucky among us? No.

Now when I walk past the local high school and see girls walk by in shorts that are virtually impossible even if I dropped the 100 pounds, that makes me jealous. When I see women pass by and they clearly have a generous set up in their bra, that of course makes me jealous. But then I then, I suppose the two above examples likely make ordinary not slim girls and girls who are more or less flat jealous too.

But I have no problem with those among us enjoying their success.

Now, I might get bummed out some days from my own lack of progress.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: empty on February 17, 2013, 02:15:10 PM
I'm not jealous of any transgender people because it's just such a heavy thing for anyone to be saddled with, even if you can transition. Even if you pull through it you will always have been limited. I'm not jealous but I somewhat admire people who were able to win the fight for their truth.

I'm jealous of normal guys whose body just gives them the height, the voice, everything. I think sometimes, why don't I deserve that? Yeah, they have to deal with the rough male side of society, no one's perfect, but they'll never know this level of humiliation. They've always had at least the opportunity to have a place in the world. I would have loved to have a normal childhood and adolescence and own and be proud of my body, I think I could have dealt with everything else if I didn't have that desolation weighing on me.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Kevin Peña on February 17, 2013, 03:47:24 PM
I'm jealous of cis women AND trans women who have made further progress than me. I'm jealous of both of them since they get to be who they want to be, while I'm stuck being Manny McManface.  :icon_tears:

I'm going to have to get bigger charts for my jealousy readings.  :P
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Heather on February 17, 2013, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: DianaP on February 17, 2013, 03:47:24 PM
I'm jealous of both of them since they get to be who they want to be, while I'm stuck being Manny McManface.  :icon_tears:


You don't have to be that way forever! Your in total control of the woman you want to be! Make it your goal to be the woman other women want to be. :)
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: peky on February 17, 2013, 05:22:33 PM
When I see trans or cis people who are better looking than me, younger, richer, smarter, etc...

I feel happy for them...I remember all the dead, maim, miserable, ugly, sick, perverted people I seen in my life and........ I think..."good for this guys and gals who in my judgment seem to have something better than I do..."


So, no, no jealousy or envy at all.....then again I think..."perhaps there I something about me that these folks may covet..."



Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Shannon1979 on February 18, 2013, 10:39:51 AM
Some yes. but hopefully not in a horrible way. not so much with transitioning people, that more gives me hope for myself. but cis women yes whenever i see a woman i like ( i identify as lesbian) two things go through my mind. one is the attraction and the other is a desperate desire to be her. I do have some jealousy of people transitioning who are not in puberty yet. i have nothing against them i just wish i was even possible back when i was 12-13. But alas it was not really accepted back then. :angel:
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: crazy at the coast on February 18, 2013, 11:23:20 AM
I will admit to being a little jealous of pretty cis-women and those with decent sized breasts. And sometimes, I do get a twinge of envy when I see that someone is going for srs. I think that is kind of normal for us and even people in general except where it comes to the surgery part, of course, lol.

Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: CybilB on February 18, 2013, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: Kelly J. P. on February 11, 2013, 11:19:58 PM
Later on, I became jealous of those girls who got to start before puberty. This envy continues to the present and beyond, and I will probably always have a little resentment in store for those lucky girls. I'm not really proud of that fact, but I believe it's a natural reaction.

This right here. I'm happy for the girls who learned about their identity before puberty, and had accepting parents to help them through the difficult path before them, but oh, how I envy them!

Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: FullThrottleMalehem on February 20, 2013, 04:12:29 PM
I'm downright jealous of cis men since they were born in the right body, never have to worry about affording surgeries and hormone treatments. I am extremely envious possibly even jealous of trans men that pass really well, that can afford to have a really good top surgery done and especially of those who can pass without hormones and surgery and can make their voice a lower pitch. I guess I'm just jealous of people who can afford to be who they feel they are inside. I was born into an abusive poverty stricken home, forced to live in a town with no real job economy. Now I can't afford to move or transition due to finances and a complete lack of trans educated doctors. So as much as I don't like to be, I can't help but to have feelings of jealousy and extreme envy.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: King Malachite on February 20, 2013, 04:28:10 PM
Quote from: FullThrottleMalehem on February 20, 2013, 04:12:29 PM
I'm downright jealous of cis men since they were born in the right body, never have to worry about affording surgeries and hormone treatments. I am extremely envious possibly even jealous of trans men that pass really well, that can afford to have a really good top surgery done and especially of those who can pass without hormones and surgery and can make their voice a lower pitch. I guess I'm just jealous of people who can afford to be who they feel they are inside. I was born into an abusive poverty stricken home, forced to live in a town with no real job economy. Now I can't afford to move or transition due to finances and a complete lack of trans educated doctors. So as much as I don't like to be, I can't help but to have feelings of jealousy and extreme envy.

I feel your pain.  A while back ago I made a thread called "Natural Features that work in your favor" and I sort of regret making that thread because a lot of the guys there had some type of natural feature that helped them in their transition such as height, deep voice, above average growth downstairs, no hips, large hands, etc. while I have everything nearly working against my favor.  To be honest, I don't think there's a transguy I'm NOT jealous of.
Title: Re: Jealous of transitioning people?
Post by: Lesley_Roberta on February 21, 2013, 08:05:44 AM
Right now, I am merely jealous of anyone with a nice waist.

I can't change my neck, but my waist is a reflection of lousy diet.

Wish I could unlock the secret to my own weight loss.

The day I get my original waist back, is likely the day I declare victory. Everything else will be easy in comparison.