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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: spacerace on February 15, 2013, 07:33:15 PM

Title: interesting data
Post by: spacerace on February 15, 2013, 07:33:15 PM
This study is a couple of years old and has probably been posted here somewhere, but I hadn't seen it and it features that sexuality pie chart someone posted in another thread a few days back. It is a comprehensive look at the transgender and gender non-conforming demographic.

I figured other people might be interested in it, so here is the link.

http://www.thetaskforce.org/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_full.pdf (http://www.thetaskforce.org/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_full.pdf)

Chock full of data and comparison graphs.
Title: Re: interesting data
Post by: ford on February 15, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
I'm a bit of a data geek; this is awesome, thanks! (Although really I want to know how they went about creating a 'random' sample of transgender people).
Title: Re: Re: interesting data
Post by: natastic on February 15, 2013, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: ford on February 15, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
I'm a bit of a data geek

Me too! I eat data for breffas. And lunch and dinner.
Title: Re: interesting data
Post by: spacerace on February 15, 2013, 08:08:50 PM
I was surprised to see that 18% of respondents that identified as transgender  did not want to "live in a gender other than assigned at birth" which I am taking to mean as choosing not to transition as wanting to transition someday is another category.  Also, 41 % said they were "generally not out" which probably includes both stealth and closeted trans people. Only 15% said they were out to everyone - as in no attempt at being stealth? Not sure.

As seen in that other thread, 46 % of FTM respondents identified their sexual orientation as queer, while only 7% of MTFs did. The MTF respondents were about evenly split between gay, bisexual, and heterosexual.

The suicide attempt rates are pretty heart crushing, as are the numbers of students physically assaulted at school by teachers or staff (5%? wtf teachers?)
Title: Re: interesting data
Post by: ford on February 15, 2013, 08:29:10 PM
The 'queer' thing is still a mystery to me. Since it was just a selection on a survey, it probably means something unique to each person who responded, and I don't think any conclusion can be drawn from it (and by extension that pie chart) at all. Personally I would have seen it as synonymous with gay, lesbian, or bi - and therefore redundant and confusing. I think a more interesting question would have been: what gender are you attracted to - male, female, both, none, doesn't matter etc. Something along those lines. That removes confusing labels, at least.

The thing I find really interesting is the higher-than-average education level (compared to the US general population). Over half were in or had completed college. Pretty amazing. And yeah the attempted suicide rate really is awful, but not terribly surprising.

Quote from: encircle me on February 15, 2013, 07:50:34 PM
Me too! I eat data for breffas. And lunch and dinner.

Yep that sounds familiar  ;D It's a curse that runs in my family. Gotta have the data.
Title: Re: interesting data
Post by: spacerace on February 15, 2013, 08:38:12 PM
Quote from: ford on February 15, 2013, 08:29:10 PM
The 'queer' thing is still a mystery to me. Since it was just a selection on a survey, it probably means something unique to each person who responded, and I don't think any conclusion can be drawn from it (and by extension that pie chart) at all.

Yeah some of these questions seem like they have a lot of room for ambiguity, or the answers will mean different things to different people, including the ones asking about being out or not.

The age of transition graph sorta confirmed what I always suspected - MTFs transition at later ages overall relative to FTMs, with FTM transitions dropping off  very rapidly past age 45, while MTFs taper off more gradually, with 12% transitioning past age 55 compared to 1% of FTMs.

I'm 28, so I was glad to see I have company  (40% of FTM respondents) in the 25-44 bracket, all though that is a large range, and 46% transition between 18-24.
Title: Re: interesting data
Post by: ford on February 15, 2013, 08:47:15 PM
Quote from: spacerace on February 15, 2013, 08:38:12 PM
I'm 28, so I was glad to see I have company  (40% of FTM respondents) in the 25-44 bracket, all though that is a large range, and 46% transition between 18-24.

Word. I'm 27. Right there with you. Not as uncommon as we suspected :)
Title: Re: interesting data
Post by: insideontheoutside on February 15, 2013, 09:45:51 PM
Some interesting stats in there.

I know it doesn't reflect all of trans* people everywhere but I found that state that the mtf to ftm ration is 60/40. I had noticed awhile back there just seemed to be more mtf's than ftm's.

13% of respondents listed, "a gender not listed here" when asked what their primary gender identity was today.

21% (the 2nd highest listed) identified as gay/lesbian/same gender and 23% (the highest listed) were bisexual.

The differences between "people can tell I'm transgender even if I don't tell them" where vast between mtf and ftm but honestly I still think a segment society is more anti male to female. If you've got an F on your birth certificate it's a lot more accepted (even by those who would discriminate against an mtf) for you to have male mannerisms, look more male ("tom boy", etc.), dress more male, participate in what could be traditionally defined as male activities, etc.

This one was interesting too, "18% of respondents that identified as transgender  did not want to "live in a gender other than assigned at birth".