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Title: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on May 24, 2007, 06:20:59 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nicolesheridan.com%2Fcrop.jpg&hash=eace15acc317bd93d8e5ba543668c7f23a5e30c1)
This photo of her has been digitally processed, if you have seen any of her films, you will readily see what a really bad job her surgeon did, she looks very unnatural, yet she is a "film star" Go figure!
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: katia on May 24, 2007, 06:37:15 PM
i can't believe it's her.  when did this happen?  she used to be such a beautiful girl and now, look at her; she looks masculine.  wow.  i'm in shock land right now. tsk tsk tsk.  hopefully she will sue her plastic surgeon!
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on May 24, 2007, 07:57:08 PM
Oh you sarcastic little girl. Yes, look up some of her other pics, ones that I can't link because she has something in her mouth, she is grotesque and a perfect example of FFS gone wild. Although men seem to like her but I don't think they look at her face.

Do you really think her face doesn't scream M-A-N?
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Keira on May 24, 2007, 08:53:42 PM

That's why someone must be carefull not to mess too much with the jaw line, if you already have a longish face (which she has), its better to concentrate on the chin and leave the jaw larger so it will look rounder and give some width to you face. If you diminish the jaw line too much, you face will look even longer, which will make you look manish no matter how small your chin is.

Its all a question of balance; just shaving having is not always the solution.

Also, if you remove too much of the jaw, it tends to hollow the cheek since you don't have as much tension on your skin. You can maybe counteract this by having fat injections in your cheek, but they don't last very long and you have to redo it all the time.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: tinkerbell on May 24, 2007, 09:45:47 PM
OMG, for a second, I thought you were talking about Nicollette Sheridan (http://abc.go.com/primetime/desperate/bios/nicollette_sheridan.html), and I was getting ready to go and kill that surgeon.  Thank God it isn't her!  and no, I don't know who this is, but she does look rather masculine...

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on May 25, 2007, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: Tink on May 24, 2007, 09:45:47 PM
OMG, for a second, I thought you were talking about Nicollette Sheridan (http://abc.go.com/primetime/desperate/bios/nicollette_sheridan.html), and I was getting ready to go and kill that surgeon.  Thank God it isn't her!  and no, I don't know who this is, but she does look rather masculine...

tink :icon_chick:

Tink, you should see her when she has her jaw wide open, :) just google her. I get her movies on my cable free, Ghost in a Teeny Bikini, I can't figure out if she is post-op or not, she used to do the she-male gig.
Quote from: Keira on May 24, 2007, 08:53:42 PM

That's why someone must be careful not to mess too much with the jaw line,


That is why when "messing" with your face, you only want the best.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on May 31, 2007, 08:39:31 PM
I get cinemax and I watched her in "Bikini Chain Gang" Yes, she is definitely post-op!
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Thundra on June 02, 2007, 10:49:17 AM
You guys crack me up!  Just like 13 year olds.  LOL  Takes me back to high school.

QuoteAlthough men seem to like her but I don't think they look at her face.

Do you think that they look at any woman's face when they are in "that" mode?  Get real!
With a body like that, she is just a piece of meat, especially the way she is presenting herself to the world.

Besides, most guys like really toned, athletic women. In fact, if given the choice, most men would pick a woman built like a boy with implants over a woman with curves. Most men would pick a woman with "perfect" features over a naturally pretty woman. It's true. Just watch 'em.

It's the same reason that there are men out there that chase after women that transition. They'd rather have a woman with a "re-engineered" body and face by a surgeon, than a woman with natural features. Woman that feel compelled to have facial surgeries "to look better" are buying into the same old, tired stereotypes from decades ago. But the problem is that so many women are having them now, that it is becoming the norm rather than the exception.

Actually, looking at that pic again, she reminds me of some women I know. Women born natally female. She kinda has that Sheryl Crow look actually.

When you get older, it all sags anyway.  LOL
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Jeannette on June 02, 2007, 10:58:52 AM
She's just ugly and does look like a man in drag.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Keira on June 02, 2007, 11:12:03 AM

Thundra,
IT used to sag... Now with all the non-invasive lasers (with little down time) like Fraxel, botox and fillers, you can look 25 until the day you die :-).
Hopefully, you keep the rest of the body in shape too, or it will look strange :-).

Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: tinkerbell on June 02, 2007, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: Jeannette on June 02, 2007, 10:58:52 AM
She's just ugly and does look like a man in drag.

*giggling devilishly* talk about "brutally" honest here.  ;D

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on June 03, 2007, 09:18:32 AM
Quote from: Thundra on June 02, 2007, 10:49:17 AM
You guys crack me up!  Just like 13 year olds.  LOL  Takes me back to high school.

QuoteAlthough men seem to like her but I don't think they look at her face.

Do you think that they look at any woman's face when they are in "that" mode?  Get real!
With a body like that, she is just a piece of meat, especially the way she is presenting herself to the world.

Besides, most guys like really toned, athletic women. In fact, if given the choice, most men would pick a woman built like a boy with implants over a woman with curves. Most men would pick a woman with "perfect" features over a naturally pretty woman. It's true. Just watch 'em.

It's the same reason that there are men out there that chase after women that transition. They'd rather have a woman with a "re-engineered" body and face by a surgeon, than a woman with natural features. Woman that feel compelled to have facial surgeries "to look better" are buying into the same old, tired stereotypes from decades ago. But the problem is that so many women are having them now, that it is becoming the norm rather than the exception.

Actually, looking at that pic again, she reminds me of some women I know. Women born natally female. She kinda has that Sheryl Crow look actually.

When you get older, it all sags anyway.  LOL

Sheryl Crow. I don't see that especially since I have seen other views of her. Her nose is so fake looking, it's almost sad (you need to see other views)

Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: tinkerbell on June 03, 2007, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: Thundra on June 02, 2007, 10:49:17 AM
You guys crack me up!  Just like 13 year olds.  LOL  Takes me back to high school.

Thundra, you have to understand that we have literally been denied an adolescence in our true gender, so even though now, we are a bit older than thirteen, we just have to live up for the lost time. :P

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on June 03, 2007, 06:30:57 PM
Four years into HRT, I figure I am about 17 now!
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Thundra on June 03, 2007, 07:08:28 PM
QuoteThundra, you have to understand that we have literally been denied an adolescence in our true gender, so even though now, we are a bit older than thirteen, we just have to live up for the lost time.

Point well taken Tink. I understand that, and I mean no real disrespect. But from my POV of a woman having been there, your reactions although natural for you all, bring back a LOT of hurt for me -- painful reminders of a horrible time in my life. Children are horribly judgmental, and that is the main reason teenage suicide is so darn high. Peer pressure kills.

Y'all are acting out, but usually in that process there is a woman calling younger women to task for that behaviour as well. So, in a way I was playing devil's advocate. We all do what we are programmed to do I suppose?
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: cindianna_jones on June 03, 2007, 07:36:31 PM
Okay, color me stupid.  I think that in this picture she looks quite stunning. Yes, she has a squarish jaw line.  But so what?

I have no idea who she is.

Cindi
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on June 03, 2007, 09:01:15 PM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on June 03, 2007, 07:36:31 PM
Okay, color me stupid.  I think that in this picture she looks quite stunning. Yes, she has a squarish jaw line.  But so what?

I have no idea who she is.

Cindi

Again, for about the fifth time, that's not a very good representation of what she looks like, google her, you will find many pics I can't link here.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Thundra on June 03, 2007, 11:17:29 PM
Yikes, that was disgusting.

I hate porn, so I hate porn sites.

I didn't see anything out of the ordinary about her pics.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: cindianna_jones on June 03, 2007, 11:37:21 PM
Thundra, there must be something wrong with us ;) 

Cindi
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: katia on June 04, 2007, 01:25:20 AM
Quote from: melissa90299 on May 24, 2007, 07:57:08 PM
Yes, look up some of her other pics, ones that I can't link because she has something in her mouth

like what?  stitches from "her" lip surgery?
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Kimberly on June 04, 2007, 01:33:52 AM
Heh, given the movie title previous I will guess something considerably more lewd.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: katia on June 04, 2007, 01:48:02 AM
thundra mentioned it was disgusting.  i figured it had nothing to do with porn.  i just find it amusing that some will be disgusted by a few porno shots, yet they talk very openly about their sexual fantasies and fetishes in another forum. ???
(2 + 2 = 4) as far as i know.  some here, nonetheless, think this equation is correct
( 2 + 2 = 5), inconsistent iow.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on June 04, 2007, 08:14:09 AM
 
Quote from: Thundra on June 03, 2007, 11:17:29 PM
Yikes, that was disgusting.

I hate porn, so I hate porn sites.

I didn't see anything out of the ordinary about her pics.

I guess you just haven't developed a critical eye when t comes to bad plastic surgery, either that, or you are not seeing the same angles I saw.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Diane on June 04, 2007, 10:20:32 AM
I think it's wrong for anyone to  criticize another person. NO ONE here looks perfect. Even those of you who have spent thousands of dollars to achieve your look.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Jessica on June 04, 2007, 10:54:43 AM
I tend to agree with Diane personally.

Far be it from me to criticise anyone based on how they look, or their choice of professions.  I may not agree with someone's choice, but I agree that they have the right to make their own decisions free from ridicule.

Jessica
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on June 04, 2007, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: Diane on June 04, 2007, 10:20:32 AM
I think it's wrong for anyone to  criticize another person. NO ONE here looks perfect. Even those of you who have spent thousands of dollars to achieve your look.

It's posted for informative reasons, Nicole is an example of how bizarre one can wind up looking if they are not careful. Remember, this is an FFS forum and Nicole is a public figure. She is laughing all the way to the bank, I am sure.

While Nicole's face screams plastic surgery, no one knows I have anything but the face I was born with. There is a lesson there.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: cindianna_jones on June 04, 2007, 03:01:59 PM
Quote from: melissa90299 on June 04, 2007, 01:57:01 PM


It's posted for informative reasons, Nicole is an example of how bizarre one can wind up looking if they are not careful. Remember, this is an FFS forum and Nicole is a public figure. She is laughing all the way to the bank, I am sure.

While Nicole's face screams plastic surgery, no one knows I have anything but the face I was born with. There is a lesson there.

I wonder what opinion Nicole would have on your statement.....
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on June 04, 2007, 08:11:08 PM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on June 04, 2007, 03:01:59 PM
Quote from: melissa90299 on June 04, 2007, 01:57:01 PM


It's posted for informative reasons, Nicole is an example of how bizarre one can wind up looking if they are not careful. Remember, this is an FFS forum and Nicole is a public figure. She is laughing all the way to the bank, I am sure.

While Nicole's face screams plastic surgery, no one knows I have anything but the face I was born with. There is a lesson there.



Like I said, she is laughing all the way to the bank.

I wonder what opinion Nicole would have on your statement.....



Like I said, she is laughing all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Thundra on June 05, 2007, 09:20:14 PM
Quotethundra mentioned it was disgusting.  i figured it had nothing to do with porn.  i just find it amusing that some will be disgusted by a few porno shots, yet they talk very openly about their sexual fantasies and fetishes in another forum.

Each to their own. I find it disturbing that some people are so clueless about how harmful pornography is to their sisters. You are part of the solution, or part of the problem. If you choose not to choose, you have chosen as well. Choose wisely.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Lori on June 05, 2007, 09:54:07 PM
Quote from: melissa90299 on May 24, 2007, 06:20:59 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nicolesheridan.com%2Fcrop.jpg&hash=eace15acc317bd93d8e5ba543668c7f23a5e30c1)
This photo of her has been digitally processed, if you have seen any of her films, you will readily see what a really bad job her surgeon did, she looks very unnatural, yet she is a "film star" Go figure!

I've been staring at this pic for a long time. I must be blind or unaware of something because I see nothing wrong with it. But this is the first time I have seen her as well. She doesnt look male to me, nor does she look odd or unnatural. Are ya'll talking about the first pic in this thread or one I am supposed to google said pic? I think I am either confused or lost. I hope my FFS goes this bad lol.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: tinkerbell on June 05, 2007, 09:59:07 PM
Supposedly we are talking about this picture.  You can hardly see her face on the "other ones" (don't ask why!  ;))  Personally, I think that she has a great body, but her face is rather masculine (i.e. square jaw line, perhaps a prominent forehead and an M shape hair line).  Again those are just my views and not a Tink's law or anything of that sort.

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: katia on June 06, 2007, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: Tink on June 05, 2007, 09:59:07 PM
Supposedly we are talking about this picture.  You can hardly see her face on the "other ones" (don't ask why!  ;))  Personally, I think that she has a great body, but her face is rather masculine (i.e. square jaw line, perhaps a prominent forehead and an M shape hair line).  Again those are just my views and not a Tink's law or anything of that sort.

tink :icon_chick:

great body? i wouldn't be too sure about that either.  no-existent hips and broad shoulders.  her head doesn't look proportional to the rest of her body,  but what the hell, she's making thousands with her [other] attributes. >:D
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Thundra on June 06, 2007, 06:22:51 PM
I do not her the slightest bit attractive. But I do not think she looks like a guy either.
But I can assure you that lots and lots and lots of men are obsessed with her body type.
Skinny as hell, like a young boy, no hips, and what look like breast implants. <---THIS, is what most men want. Most men are not attracted to real women, that are built like women. They are attracted to women that are built like adolescent boys.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Keira on June 06, 2007, 07:04:26 PM

If that's so, that means I'm set to rake in the men,  Thundra...  >:D
Actually, I probably have too much hips too be an adolescent boy... HAHA.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Wendy Kahr on August 09, 2007, 07:04:41 AM
Quote from: melissa90299 on May 25, 2007, 07:38:24 PM
...I can't figure out if she is post-op or not...

According to the entry for her in the Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Sheridan ) She seems to be a natural born female.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on August 09, 2007, 11:57:58 AM
Quote from: Wendy Kahr on August 09, 2007, 07:04:41 AM
Quote from: melissa90299 on May 25, 2007, 07:38:24 PM
...I can't figure out if she is post-op or not...

According to the entry for her in the Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Sheridan ) She seems to be a natural born female.

Yeah, right, and I am Mary, Queen of Scots.

Do little more research, or just look at her.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Jeannette on August 09, 2007, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: melissa90299 on August 09, 2007, 11:57:58 AM
Quote from: Wendy Kahr on August 09, 2007, 07:04:41 AM
Quote from: melissa90299 on May 25, 2007, 07:38:24 PM
...I can't figure out if she is post-op or not...

According to the entry for her in the Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Sheridan ) She seems to be a natural born female.

Yeah, right, and I am Mary, Queen of Scots.

Do little more research, or just look at her.

Lol   definately trans.  >noddes twice<
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Kat on August 09, 2007, 12:12:32 PM
Quote from: Thundra on June 06, 2007, 06:22:51 PM
Most men are not attracted to real women, that are built like women. They are attracted to women that are built like adolescent boys.

Yay me?
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: melissa90299 on August 09, 2007, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: Jeannette on August 09, 2007, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: melissa90299 on August 09, 2007, 11:57:58 AM
Quote from: Wendy Kahr on August 09, 2007, 07:04:41 AM
Quote from: melissa90299 on May 25, 2007, 07:38:24 PM
...I can't figure out if she is post-op or not...

According to the entry for her in the Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Sheridan ) She seems to be a natural born female.

Yeah, right, and I am Mary, Queen of Scots.

Do little more research, or just look at her.

Lol   definately trans.  >noddes twice<


LOL is right, and given the fact thatr Ms Sheridan billed herself as a (ugh!) she-male!
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: AnnieE on August 09, 2007, 02:42:32 PM
Quote from: Thundra on June 03, 2007, 11:17:29 PM
Yikes, that was disgusting.

I hate porn, so I hate porn sites.

I didn't see anything out of the ordinary about her pics.
I like some porn, but only ones with very beautiful girls like Chloe18.
Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Cruelladeville on July 28, 2010, 11:21:22 AM
A site that shows/tells all....(re overdoing it)....is this one... bad I know to larf..... at some of the poor wee souls....

But when in doubt - don't!

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com (http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com)

Meeeeoow....(now hand me the polyfilla darhlink).... those lips are way too tight and mean....

And I'll bitch-slap anyone that say's I'm having a bad hair day....

Me....moi? When I'm all so amour de chiot!!

Title: Re: Speaking of FFS: Nicole Sheridan "film star"
Post by: Akashiya Moka on August 03, 2010, 07:02:13 PM
Quote from: Keira on May 24, 2007, 08:53:42 PM
That's why someone must be carefull not to mess too much with the jaw line, if you already have a longish face (which she has), its better to concentrate on the chin and leave the jaw larger so it will look rounder and give some width to you face. If you diminish the jaw line too much, you face will look even longer, which will make you look manish no matter how small your chin is.

Its all a question of balance; just shaving having is not always the solution.

Also, if you remove too much of the jaw, it tends to hollow the cheek since you don't have as much tension on your skin. You can maybe counteract this by having fat injections in your cheek, but they don't last very long and you have to redo it all the time.

~I agree 100%. :) The jaw IMHO, more often than not, should be left as is; many of the most beautiful women in the world have somewhat 'masculine' jawlines, and it certainly does not detract from their perceived femininity.  I've noticed that even in those cases where FFS enhances everything else, surgery that affects the jaw line rarely seems to turn out ideally; in fact, I'd rate it, after rhinoplasty, as one of those surgeries to be extremely wary of (and thus supremely confident in your surgeon's skill should you choose to undertake it). :P

Moderation seems best in most things, as it is better to err of the side of caution... :icon_chick: At least one exception to this colloquial wisdom, however, is forehead reconstruction; for when it comes to cranioplasty, I say go for gold.