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Title: Back to gym?
Post by: PHXGiRL on March 09, 2013, 12:46:34 PM
Question.

The other day I found myself admiring Carmen Carerra's body. I know with HRT a lot of physical development is due to our family genes but my question is if I get back in the gym, can I develop nice hips and feminine lower body just by doing certain work outs.

Prior to transition I spent a lot in the gym as a male. I'm scared if I start working out I will devolpe more muscle and my T will rise? Is this true?

I know I only get one shot and feminizing my body here in these beginning stages. I want to do the best I can to get the body I have always wanted. I know results vary but I can try right?






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Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Isabelle on March 09, 2013, 03:17:00 PM
Before this post Id never heard of this person. I looked up other images of them and I'm pretty much blown away by their figure. Surely that can't be natural? There must have been surgeries? Obviously FFS and BA but, their rib cage, waist and hips look like they've had surgical work done?
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: muuu on March 09, 2013, 03:24:22 PM
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Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Tristan on March 09, 2013, 03:33:05 PM
you can get a body something like that with hard work at the gym and fasting
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Riley Skye on March 09, 2013, 04:34:31 PM
My suggestion is to do cardio such as running or perhaps swimming, lifting some weights won't be bad either. I also never heard of anyones T rising from working
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Shantel on March 09, 2013, 05:18:58 PM
How would you know that her photos aren't photo shop enhanced like many of the VS models are?
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: tomthom on March 09, 2013, 05:27:15 PM
even if they are enhanced, these are perfectly attainable resuls. I have almost the exact same body type.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Shantel on March 09, 2013, 05:54:18 PM
Quote from: tomthom on March 09, 2013, 05:27:15 PM
even if they are enhanced, these are perfectly attainable resuls. I have almost the exact same body type.

I suppose you're right because on second look it does seem as if the person in the before photo has a rather slight build through the waist and chest. Personally I think it's always helpful to have a good workout at the gym using only the lightest weights and a lot of reps for tone coupled with a good cardio workout. T levels don't go up as far as I can tell. The hips and thighs on that woman in the photo came as a result of hormones and genetic propensities because they sure weren't in evidence in the before photo which appear to be typically male slim legs.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: PHXGiRL on March 09, 2013, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: girl you look fierce on March 09, 2013, 03:23:25 PM
I have a similar figure w/ no surgery... but there is no muscle on the hips... I think it is just based on how your pelvis turns out.  I do a lot of running but my weight stays about the same, really I think slimming down helps with that figure..

How long have you been on the magic pills? See that's what I'm wondering from her pictures. She use to be a drag queen prior so I wonder if she was always on a low dose then kicked it up when she decided to transition. I can't find any monthly progress pictures of her online.



Quote from: tomthom on March 09, 2013, 05:27:15 PM
even if they are enhanced, these are perfectly attainable resuls. I have almost the exact same body type.

Really? Just from Hormones or are you doing cardio too?



Quote from: TessaM on March 09, 2013, 05:59:38 PM
Carmen Carrera's body always amazed me. I think shes had work done... but what do I know? She has had breasts done, trach shave and nose job as far as I know from her youtube channel.

PLEASE CARMEN TELL US YOUR SECRET!

I wrote her a message on facebook hopefully she responds! :)
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: tomthom on March 09, 2013, 07:28:54 PM
I'm not currently on HRT, but I have the same bone structure and my muscle can tighten to her level in about a week of intense workouts. My metabolic process is simply that ridiculous. I'll be starting HRT within the next 6 months  (hopefully 3) and when that happens I'll be sure to tell you how it goes in terms of the fat distribution and such.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: AusBelle on March 09, 2013, 07:58:37 PM
I've been doing a program called "The New Lifting Rules for Women" over the last few months and have seen amazing results.  I used to have a pretty decent figure around SRS time a long time ago, but over the years put on heaps of weight and became quite blobby.  This is all coming off now and I'm regaining the shape (actually a better shape) that I had before.  This program involves lifting weights (obviously) and a lot of core work - lunges, squats, planking, push ups, body matrix work, Swiss ball crunches etc etc.  This combined with better eating habits - no junk food, watching calories, no processed food and lots of whole foods and protein, is working wonders!

I certainly haven't put on any noticeable muscle, but I didn't expect to post op.  Just lots of toning.  Not sure how the lifting part would work pre op, but the core would work.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Mohini on March 09, 2013, 08:31:51 PM
Gosh dang, I better start exercising and eating healthy if I want to have a sexy body like that!  :o

I've been... gaining weight for a while now. *pokes tummy chubbles*
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Madisyn on March 09, 2013, 08:38:35 PM
Sadly that will never be me, my ribcage is too large and I have broad shoulders.  I'll just end up being a fit plus sized woman I guess.

In the end working out helps but a proper diet helps more.  You have to fuel your body properly so that it burns fat and doesn't go into starvation mode.  Good lean muscle will continue to burn fat long after the cardio session is done, just something to remember.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: tomthom on March 09, 2013, 09:24:15 PM
madisyn, her shoulders are very wide too. in the female picture if you notice she's tilting her body back to create the illusion of small shoulders. that and most supermodels have broad shoulders. it makes for a better presentation.

here is a pic of some models. take a look at the shoulder to hip ratio yourself. this is why I tell people to look at real skeletons rather than illustrations that show the "average" woman (a total fabrication by the way.)

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_01/supermodsGPX_468x468.jpg (http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_01/supermodsGPX_468x468.jpg)
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Joanna Dark on March 09, 2013, 09:37:51 PM
Doing squats will raise your T level but if you're on an AA I'm not sure if it will. I know squats are one of the most important exercises for bodybuilders as they raise T and help build muscle as a result. I'd stay away from the just in case. I don't mean squats with no barbell on the shoulders, I mean lifting heavy weights, if that is even possible with all the estrogen. Other exercises will have no effect on T. I'm not sure of the mechanism behind squats and T but it is there. Of course, this may be a bodybuilder myth. I'd stick with cycling (or another cardio exercise) and yoga.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: tomthom on March 09, 2013, 10:21:26 PM
unless you want to puff up like a balloon and be just as poppable.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Nicolette on March 10, 2013, 05:22:18 AM
Quote from: Joanna Dark on March 09, 2013, 09:37:51 PM
Doing squats will raise your T level but if you're on an AA I'm not sure if it will. I know squats are one of the most important exercises for bodybuilders as they raise T and help build muscle as a result. I'd stay away from the just in case. I don't mean squats with no barbell on the shoulders, I mean lifting heavy weights, if that is even possible with all the estrogen.

You mean all the estrogen women have circulating in their bodies cripples them?

My T levels are barely detectable and have no problems doing heavy squats.

Women do it all the time. But you know that already.  :P
http://soumyaabsolutebeauty.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/how-to-get-bigger-butt-and-wider-hips.html (http://soumyaabsolutebeauty.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/how-to-get-bigger-butt-and-wider-hips.html)
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Joanna Dark on March 10, 2013, 11:26:10 AM
Quote from: Tesla on March 10, 2013, 05:22:18 AM
You mean all the estrogen women have circulating in their bodies cripples them?

My T levels are barely detectable and have no problems doing heavy squats.

Women do it all the time. But you know that already.  :P
http://soumyaabsolutebeauty.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/how-to-get-bigger-butt-and-wider-hips.html (http://soumyaabsolutebeauty.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/how-to-get-bigger-butt-and-wider-hips.html)

Yes, it is a biological fact that testosterone promotes muscle growth and squats in particular increase circulating T levels (at least people say this a lot). This men are much stringer. But no estrogen doens't cripple you, I'm talking about squatting with 150 lbs on your back. You haven't seen any decrease in strength on E. It just seems strange but...what do i know. Why would you want do heavy squats they promote massive muscle growth that WILL not go away. Muscle never forgets. It's called muscle memory.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: muuu on March 10, 2013, 11:43:58 AM
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Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Joanna Dark on March 10, 2013, 12:37:47 PM
No what I meant was let's say you work out and build a lot of muscles, then stop and the muscles atrophy. When you start working out again, the muscles come back a lot quicker because they are always there under the surface just waiting to be worked out. See this: http://news.discovery.com/human/genetics/muscles-memory-strength.htm (http://news.discovery.com/human/genetics/muscles-memory-strength.htm)
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Shantel on March 10, 2013, 12:47:03 PM
Quote from: Joanna Dark on March 10, 2013, 12:37:47 PM
No what I meant was let's say you work out and build a lot of muscles, then stop and the muscles atrophy. When you start working out again, the muscles come back a lot quicker because they are always there under the surface just waiting to be worked out. See this: http://news.discovery.com/human/genetics/muscles-memory-strength.htm (http://news.discovery.com/human/genetics/muscles-memory-strength.htm)

I've been on female HRT close to 18 years and work out at least five days a week on the average and haven't built up any significant muscle other than get some rather stellar definition in my abs and lats from doing excessive crunches. I always used wuss weights with a lot of reps. Finally quit the gym and bought a water rowing machine for a ful body and cardio workout at home and am getting even better definition at the waist line than I had from three years gym membership. http://www.waterrower.com/ (http://www.waterrower.com/)
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: PHXGiRL on March 10, 2013, 12:54:29 PM
Quote from: Joanna Dark on March 10, 2013, 12:37:47 PM
No what I meant was let's say you work out and build a lot of muscles, then stop and the muscles atrophy. When you start working out again, the muscles come back a lot quicker because they are always there under the surface just waiting to be worked out. See this: http://news.discovery.com/human/genetics/muscles-memory-strength.htm (http://news.discovery.com/human/genetics/muscles-memory-strength.htm)

^^
This is what scares me.

I have been loading up on carbs trying to get layers of fat. I can tell its working because I have put on ten pounds in a month and a half. Its not on my belly but everywhere else. If I start running again like I was when I first started HRT or hit the gym I'm worried my boy muscles will come back. I

This was me prior to HRT. I don't wanna be a girl and look anything close to this :(

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.tinypic.com%2F2n6r8fq.jpg&hash=c88c89730020c374eb197c0e57130f9e43cfbd63)
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: tomthom on March 10, 2013, 12:56:42 PM
boy muscles and girl muscles are pretty much the same. just work on intense cardio to eat through the muscle itself and create a lean and toned look.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Joanna Dark on March 10, 2013, 12:59:10 PM
Quote from: Serena Lynn on March 10, 2013, 12:54:29 PM
^^
This is what scares me.

I have been loading up on carbs trying to get layers of fat. I can tell its working because I have put on ten pounds in a month and a half. Its not on my belly but everywhere else. If I start running again like I was when I first started HRT or hit the gym I'm worried my boy muscles will come back.

I don't think running or cardio or even light training with like 5 lbs weights would do it. I would be careful with strength training though with heavy weights. That's the key, heavy weights. I know I will be. But again the estrogen is a factor, but is it really worth the risk?
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: PHXGiRL on March 10, 2013, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: tomthom on March 10, 2013, 12:56:42 PM
boy muscles and girl muscles are pretty much the same. just work on intense cardio to eat through the muscle itself and create a lean and toned look.

Here is my other problem. I so want to but I'm vascular. My arm veins pop up like garden hoses. This is so frustrating. I want her curves but scared to get lean. 
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Nicolette on March 10, 2013, 01:16:30 PM
Quote from: Joanna Dark on March 10, 2013, 11:26:10 AM
You haven't seen any decrease in strength on E. It just seems strange but...what do i know.

I wouldn't know. I started HRT in '94. I only started heavy squats last year. 150lbs? That would break my back. But I don't think 150lbs is needed for some nice glutes. Weights don't touch any other part of my body for paranoia of gaining unfeminine muscle. But unfeminine muscle is sometimes overstated with T so low. I'm not sure it's possible to gain much. I reached a plateau. Lifting any heavier was causing joint pain.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: AusBelle on March 10, 2013, 05:06:13 PM
Once your T levels are at normal female levels you should not build any muscle other than lean muscle.  You will not build muscle like a normal male would, it's just not possible.  I've been lifting now for a few months and the only thing I'm doing is toning up.  That's a lot different than putting on boy muscles. I've been on HRT since 93/94 too.

This is an extract from an email a friend of mine passed on from Bodyspace.bodybuilding.com

"The primary concern women have when it comes to weight training is, "I don't want to get big or bulky." We are here to tell you that you won't! The hormone testosterone is responsible for the large increases in muscle mass seen when men lift weights. Women's testosterone levels are a fraction of men's testosterone levels. Normal testosterone levels in men are 200-1200 ng/dl while 15-70 ng/dl are normal in women. As you can see, men's testosterone levels are SIGNIFICANTLY higher than women's. Even if a man is at the LOW end of the men's normal testosterone range (200 ng/dl), he still has more than twice the amount of testosterone as a woman at the HIGH end of the women's normal testosterone range (70 ng/dl). If we look at the median or mid-range testosterone levels in men and women, men = 700 and women = 42.5. So on an average, men have 16.47 times more testosterone than women! It is clear that women do not have the hormonal support (testosterone) to gain muscle mass like men. Therefore, the fear of becoming big and bulky and looking like Arnold Schwarzenegger with a ponytail is unwarranted."

and...

" Now you may be saying, "I have seen some women bodybuilders who are very muscular and look similar to men in their build." The real reason they look like that is they are most-likely using exogenous testosterone injections and/or other anabolic steroids. When women use exogenous testosterone/steroids they may show signs of hair growth on the face and chest, increased muscle mass, a redistribution of body fat from a female pattern of storage to a male pattern of storage, deepening of the voice, and other effects. The point of saying this is that unless you are on exogenous testosterone or other anabolic steroids, you will not become big and bulky from lifting weights. This is not to say that you will not gain any muscle, you will, but you will not gain muscle like a man. Instead, you will become toned and shapely."

Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Nicolette on March 10, 2013, 05:34:20 PM
Quote from: AusBelle on March 10, 2013, 05:06:13 PM
Once your T levels are at normal female levels you should not build any muscle other than lean muscle.  You will not build muscle like a normal male would, it's just not possible.  I've been lifting now for a few months and the only thing I'm doing is toning up.  That's a lot different than putting on boy muscles. I've been on HRT since 93/94 too.

That's my experience too. Actually, I was worried about my T levels being boosted from doing squats, so I had my T levels tested. T was 11.5ng/dL. I was a bit shocked. But I'm guessing there may instead be a very temporary boost of T that floods that system immediately after doing a set of squats. Still, if that's true, it's going to be miniscule compared to males.

I did manage to fill out my jeans just by doing squats and my butt did jut out far more than before. But it didn't do too much in regards to butt or hip width. A little though. My theory is that if you get your glutes large enough in the rear, fat is going to eventually have to be displaced to the sides. I still have hope for this, and a little help from some further fat shifting surgery.

Agreed, a muscle butt is far nicer than no butt at all.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: AusBelle on March 10, 2013, 05:44:13 PM
Quote from: Tesla on March 10, 2013, 05:34:20 PM
That's my experience too. Actually, I was worried about my T levels being boosted from doing squats, so I had my T levels tested. T was 11.5ng/dL. I was a bit shocked. But I'm guessing there may instead be a very temporary boost of T that floods that system immediately after doing a set of squats. Still, if that's true, it's going to be miniscule compared to males.

I did manage to fill out my jeans just by doing squats and my butt did jut out far more than before. But it didn't do too much in regards to butt or hip width. A little though. My theory is that if you get your glutes large enough in the rear, fat is going to eventually have to be displaced to the sides. I still have hope for this, and a little help from some further fat shifting surgery.

Agreed, a muscle butt is far nicer than no butt at all.

There is a small boost to T when doing squats according to this:  http://scoobysworkshop.com/squat-myths/ (http://scoobysworkshop.com/squat-myths/)

but it will be short lived and wouldn't affect us like it would with a normal male.

Since starting losing weight and toning up I've found I'm a lot bigger in the bum area than the top (boobs aside).  Up top I'm now wearing size 14 (Australian) and down below I'm still size 16/18.  My hips are standing out a lot more than they used to.  Have still got a fair bit of fat to lose, but it's working out very nicely.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Nicolette on March 10, 2013, 06:08:09 PM
Quote from: AusBelle on March 10, 2013, 05:06:13 PM
I've been on HRT since 93/94 too.

It's always nice to meet someone of the same vintage in regards to HRT. Back then we only had USENET to help us make our discoveries, that's if you had a PC even. Feels like yesterday.

Quote from: AusBelle on March 10, 2013, 05:44:13 PM
My hips are standing out a lot more than they used to.  Have still got a fair bit of fat to lose, but it's working out very nicely.

I'm pleased to hear it.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Shantel on March 10, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
Quote from: Tesla on March 10, 2013, 06:08:09 PM
It's always nice to meet someone of the same vintage in regards to HRT. Back then we only had USENET to help us make our discoveries, that's if you had a PC even. Feels like yesterday.

I'm pleased to hear it.

Been on HRT for 18 years myself, I work out and don't have big muscles because of it. Besides that a little T isn't the boogyman that trans woman make it out to be, a body needs a little if there is to be any libido at all.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: AusBelle on March 10, 2013, 06:20:35 PM
Quote from: Tesla on March 10, 2013, 06:08:09 PM
It's always nice to meet someone of the same vintage in regards to HRT. Back then we only had USENET to help us make our discoveries, that's if you had a PC even. Feels like yesterday.

Yes, it is  :)

I never got internet until 96, when I was booked in for SRS.  So my contacts on the web came from the old chatrooms.  Nothing at all like the forums of today, and full of ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s.   Kind of makes you feel old, but wise  >:-)
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: AusBelle on March 10, 2013, 06:21:53 PM
Quote from: Shantel on March 10, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
Been on HRT for 18 years myself, I work out and don't have big muscles because of it. Besides that a little T isn't the boogyman that trans woman make it out to be, a body needs a little if there is to be any libido at all.

It's really good to hear others saying this. 
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: PHXGiRL on March 10, 2013, 06:32:30 PM
My t-level last time I had blood work on Jan. 31st was 143 so it was a still a little high should I wait till it drops more? My E count was in the 500's. My endo cut my dose down because she said she would like to see my E lower
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Shantel on March 10, 2013, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: Serena Lynn on March 10, 2013, 06:32:30 PM
My t-level last time I had blood work on Jan. 31st was 143 so it was a still a little high should I wait till it drops more? My E count was in the 500's. My endo cut my dose down because she said she would like to see my E lower

I'm assuming then that you are pre-op? If that's the case then you're on Spironolactone or some T blocker. It should eventually drop to the female range or below. To be honest, I'm not sure what that number is. Either way, I wouldn't let the numbers hold me back from working out, the muscles are going to atrophy anyway. Do you get leg cramps, like an occasional charlie horse? That's the atrophy in progress if you do, I had awful cramps for a time as I recall.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: PHXGiRL on March 10, 2013, 07:06:21 PM
Quote from: Shantel on March 10, 2013, 06:42:12 PM
I'm assuming then that you are pre-op? If that's the case then you're on Spironolactone or some T blocker. It should eventually drop to the female range or below. To be honest, I'm not sure what that number is. Either way, I wouldn't let the numbers hold me back from working out, the muscles are going to atrophy anyway. Do you get leg cramps, like an occasional charlie horse? That's the atrophy in progress if you do, I had awful cramps for a time as I recall.

Yes I'm pre-op. End of 2014 is my goal for removal. I don't get cramps. My neck as been sore lately though like super tight the other week I couldn't move my head left or right. That could be just from sleeping wrong? It was so sore.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Nicolette on March 10, 2013, 07:08:29 PM
Quote from: Shantel on March 10, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
Been on HRT for 18 years myself, I work out and don't have big muscles because of it. Besides that a little T isn't the boogyman that trans woman make it out to be, a body needs a little if there is to be any libido at all.

18 years?  8) This gives me even more confidence. I think I'll push a bit harder and workout a little more often. I loved what it was doing to my thighs too. The feminine layer of fat hides any definition created. I do like a chunkier thigh personally.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Shantel on March 10, 2013, 07:19:20 PM
Quote from: Serena Lynn on March 10, 2013, 07:06:21 PM
Yes I'm pre-op. End of 2014 is my goal for removal. I don't get cramps. My neck as been sore lately though like super tight the other week I couldn't move my head left or right. That could be just from sleeping wrong? It was so sore.

No doubt you had a cold draft on your neck when you were sleeping, that's happened to me a time or two. It will pass.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: AusBelle on March 10, 2013, 08:02:48 PM
Quote from: Tesla on March 10, 2013, 07:08:29 PM
18 years?  8) This gives me even more confidence. I think I'll push a bit harder and workout a little more often. I loved what it was doing to my thighs too. The feminine layer of fat hides any definition created. I do like a chunkier thigh personally.

Try The New Rules of Lifting for Women, or something similar.  Doing a world of good for me  :)
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: JLT1 on March 10, 2013, 11:20:38 PM
I just ran through a number of articles in Google Scholar on testosterone levels and weight lifting.  Most of the talk of exercise raising T levels goes back to a 1993 article where the subjects were youg men who had been lifting weights on a program for more than two years.  Yep, their testosterone levels went up after lifting.  However, in older men (25+) or in young men that were not extremely physically fit (and there were multiple articles on this), there was little, if any change.  Still, I wanted to know how long the elevation would persist.

I pulled this out of one article - "Anabolic hormones such as testosterone and the superfamily of growth hormones (GH) have been shown to be elevated during 15–30 minutes of post-resistance exercise providing an adequate stimulus is present. Protocols high in volume, moderate to high in intensity, using short rest intervals and stressing a large muscle mass, tend to produce the greatest acute hormonal elevations (e.g. testosterone, GH and the catabolic hormone cortisol) compared with low-volume, high-intensity protocols using long rest intervals."  I'm guessing that "adequate stimulus" would go along with fitness level and possibly age. 

It's 15-30 minutes of elevated hormones under conditions that favor elevation.  That probably isn't a problem.   
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: PHXGiRL on March 10, 2013, 11:54:22 PM
Quote from: JLT1 on March 10, 2013, 11:20:38 PM
I just ran through a number of articles in Google Scholar on testosterone levels and weight lifting.  Most of the talk of exercise raising T levels goes back to a 1993 article where the subjects were youg men who had been lifting weights on a program for more than two years.  Yep, their testosterone levels went up after lifting.  However, in older men (25+) or in young men that were not extremely physically fit (and there were multiple articles on this), there was little, if any change.  Still, I wanted to know how long the elevation would persist.

I pulled this out of one article - "Anabolic hormones such as testosterone and the superfamily of growth hormones (GH) have been shown to be elevated during 15–30 minutes of post-resistance exercise providing an adequate stimulus is present. Protocols high in volume, moderate to high in intensity, using short rest intervals and stressing a large muscle mass, tend to produce the greatest acute hormonal elevations (e.g. testosterone, GH and the catabolic hormone cortisol) compared with low-volume, high-intensity protocols using long rest intervals."  I'm guessing that "adequate stimulus" would go along with fitness level and possibly age. 

It's 15-30 minutes of elevated hormones under conditions that favor elevation.  That probably isn't a problem.


Interesting.


I decided to go the resistance band route tonight. Went to Walmart and got a glout band, standard 25 pound band (for squats), jump rope, and a body ball.

100 reps with the glout band.
6 minutes of jump rope (2 minute intervals)
3 sets of 15 of squats
3 sets of 25 crunches with body ball.

Started with jump rope to get my heart rate up; then went into glout band set; went back to jump rope. switched back and fourth between sets. Then did the rest. My thighs feel like jello.

Any of you gals had luck with the bands? I'm going to increase my sets as the weeks go on till i hit a max.

I'm thinking what I will do is increase my carb intake and hit these bands and jump rope in the morning or night for a hour. Carbs will give me some fat while the bands should tone? Seems like it would work?
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: HeatherR on March 11, 2013, 12:23:24 AM
I think unless you intake more calories via carbs than you burn during your exercise, it's not going to really add any fat.... 
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: AusBelle on March 11, 2013, 12:33:56 AM
Quote from: Serena Lynn on March 10, 2013, 11:54:22 PM


I decided to go the resistance band route tonight. Went to Walmart and got a glout band, standard 25 pound band (for squats), jump rope, and a body ball.

100 reps with the glout band.
6 minutes of jump rope (2 minute intervals)
3 sets of 15 of squats
3 sets of 25 crunches with body ball.

Started with jump rope to get my heart rate up; then went into glout band set; went back to jump rope. switched back and fourth between sets. Then did the rest. My thighs feel like jello.

Any of you gals had luck with the bands? I'm going to increase my sets as the weeks go on till i hit a max.

I'm thinking what I will do is increase my carb intake and hit these bands and jump rope in the morning or night for a hour. Carbs will give me some fat while the bands should tone? Seems like it would work?

Never heard of a glout band.  Google's not helping either.

Resistance training will always help. 





Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: PHXGiRL on March 11, 2013, 12:50:30 AM
Quote from: AusBelle on March 11, 2013, 12:33:56 AM
Never heard of a glout band.  Google's not helping either.

Resistance training will always help.

Thats what its called i guess. It straps to your waist has two bands that velcro to your legs. You lay down raise each leg one at a time.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Jamie D on March 11, 2013, 01:12:49 AM
I believe it is called a "Glute" band, glute being slang for gluteus muscles.

I might be wrong though.
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: AusBelle on March 11, 2013, 01:27:21 AM
I think you are on the money there Jamie  :D

http://musiclady.hubpages.com/hub/Rubber-Band-Exercises (http://musiclady.hubpages.com/hub/Rubber-Band-Exercises)
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: PHXGiRL on March 11, 2013, 08:44:28 AM
I can't spell fail! lol
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Joanna Dark on March 11, 2013, 06:29:15 PM
Quote from: Serena Lynn on March 10, 2013, 11:54:22 PM

Interesting.


I decided to go the resistance band route tonight. Went to Walmart and got a glout band, standard 25 pound band (for squats), jump rope, and a body ball.

100 reps with the glout band.
6 minutes of jump rope (2 minute intervals)
3 sets of 15 of squats
3 sets of 25 crunches with body ball.

Started with jump rope to get my heart rate up; then went into glout band set; went back to jump rope. switched back and fourth between sets. Then did the rest. My thighs feel like jello.

Any of you gals had luck with the bands? I'm going to increase my sets as the weeks go on till i hit a max.

I'm thinking what I will do is increase my carb intake and hit these bands and jump rope in the morning or night for a hour. Carbs will give me some fat while the bands should tone? Seems like it would work?

Sounds like a good plan and should yield some good results but won't cause any unwanted ones, IMO. I'm not a physical trianer, I just play one on Susan's lol
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: Shantel on March 12, 2013, 09:35:33 AM
I've been working on my abs and lats for a couple of years doing crunches and it's coming along really well, I'm getting good definition and a waist although the girly meds seems to keep a layer of fattiness on them so that they aren't as sharply defined as they would be if I was on T. I've always had an awful time with "love handles" and thought I'd have to get them lipo'ed away, but since I got my rowing machine they too are starting to go away. Here is a photo of a female fitness trainer who's gut I'm trying to achieve, some may not like this but I think it's just a totally hot and fit look!

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fscaled%2Fmedium%2F811%2F41476436.jpg&hash=5888883a090d7c5934d7c082635fc41236bcd487) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/41476436.jpg/)
Title: Re: Back to gym?
Post by: oZma on March 12, 2013, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: Serena Lynn on March 09, 2013, 12:46:34 PM
Question.

The other day I found myself admiring Carmen Carerra's body. I know with HRT a lot of physical development is due to our family genes but my question is if I get back in the gym, can I develop nice hips and feminine lower body just by doing certain work outs.

Prior to transition I spent a lot in the gym as a male. I'm scared if I start working out I will devolpe more muscle and my T will rise? Is this true?

I know I only get one shot and feminizing my body here in these beginning stages. I want to do the best I can to get the body I have always wanted. I know results vary but I can try right?






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I had to UNsubscribe from Carmen's twitter, instagram, youtube,etc... that girl makes me so jealous that it seriously is bad for my health lol... but at least I have the same boobies she has! we both went to Dr Z and got under muscle saline implants! woo woo

I just stated going to the gym, doing 45 mins cardio on elliptical, 3 sets of 20 squats, 3 sets of 50 crunches, and some yoga stretching... do far... no change :-( so I stated to eat healthy... I hope I can lose like 10 lb of flab! I hope there is a girl body underneath it! lol

I should get a jump rope!